Best Overall: Innr 1100lm: amzn.to/48myTXW Best Matter: Linkind A19: amzn.to/48lymVX Best Thread: Nanoleaf Essentials: amzn.to/4e0nlL9 Best Vintage: Orein Filament: amzn.to/3YAERkE
Hm, what was the big shortcoming of the Ikea Tradfri? Higher brightness, better power efficiency, cheaper, longer warranty, CRI over 90. Do I miss something or was the only real downside the white temp of ~2200-4000 instead of 6500K (which not everybody needs or wants)? Don't get me wrong, I had some drop out issues with Ikea stuff, which was the reason I changed a lot to Innr in the last years. But I haven't tried the newer Ikea bulbs either and from your review they seem to be fairly good?
@@kaktus3175 15% flicker at 122hz is not great. Max CCT was 4000K instead of 6500K. CRI was lower than innr and R9 score was not great (55). Not a terrible bulb though.
Love that you put the winners in the first few seconds of the video, then follow through with the most robust comparative analysis in the shortest amount of time. Truly an incredible channel. Let's get you to 500K this week!!!
I always really appreciate how you treat us viewers. Give us the winner up front, and let us stay around to enjoy the journey if we want to. Respecting consumer’s time is a dying trait. Thanks for being a real one!
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LONG I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A RESOURCE WHICH TELLS ME THE LOWEST BRIGHTNESS OF SMART BULBS FOR NIGHTLIGHT FUNCTION!!! YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH VALUE THIS BRINGS TO ME
As someone who truly requires this level of information about my lightbulbs, I thank you for your service. Really though, choosing new light bulbs can be absolute torture.
Thank you so much for all the work you did to bring us these results! This is so helpful. I would selfishly love to see the same type of analysis for RGBWW downlight/recessed/can-light local-control via home assistant lights. I need to replace ~20 old cans with new lights and would love your advice on what to pick.
I just purchased the zigbee colour bulb from Innr as a cheap hue compatible bulb and I am totally impressed by it. It’s actually better than my Phillips Hue.
Thanks for including the power on states after power failure. I don’t want to use a manufacturer app as I’m moving to Home Assistant and want to replace my Wyze color bulbs when they die. They currently work with the Wyze integration in Home Assistant but are not the fastest to power on over WiFi, so the Innr Zigbee bulbs are definitely on my radar. Thanks for a great video.
Excellent video! I will say that I've had a couple of the nanoleaf (matter over thread) bulbs and one of their matter light strips for about a year now and I USED to have connection issues like you described a bit. Particularly with the light strip that was furthest in the chain of the thread mesh network. BUT in the past couple months I added one more bulb and with new firmware updates to all of them, they have been working essentially flawlessly! I can't even remember the last time I had one fail to be found in my apple home app (what i use for control). From the screenshot of your phone at 6:50 it looks like you're running an older firmware and I suspect if you were to update those bulbs now they would work way better!
@@TheHookUp Perfect, thanks so much! Have you looked into the pros and cons of direct retrofits vs. something that uses a driver? Heading over to Patreon now-you're easily worth as much as Consumer Reports.
I currently use both Philips Hue and Innr bulbs and I've found no perceptible difference between them. As needed, I'll be replacing Hue with Innr due to cost savings. Local control and adaptive lighting in Home Assistant are a must for me. Nice video!
and can the inner bulbs can be controlled using Hue app? side question have you found any chandlier bulbs that can be controlled inside hue app besides hue ones?
@@traubgatoryes, Innr bulbs can be adopted by the Hue bridge and controlled. 2nd question.. I don't know. You should search Google for your bulb type and Zigbee.
Once again, excellent work on the reviews. As with pretty much everything I buy for our smarthome, my purchases are focused on taking care of my dad first. To that end, I'm looking for Globe style bulbs for our bathroom. I'm not looking to replace our fixture (extra $$$), so sticking with the globe style works best for me. My attempts to use the brands of your picks to find brands that sell globe smart bulbs, failed me so far. There just aren't a lot of options that I've found so far that aren't some random brand on amazon. -globe style (specifically to replace what we have, which are starting to flicker) -local control independent of internet (definitely a thing I've been focusing on lately) -home assistant compatible in some way (Zigbee,Matter,Wifi) -white or filament style bulbs would work -dimmable grr...I have too many must haves Slowly trying to get into smart lighting, but very wary of the junk out there. Already been through one junk brand (Eufy IMO) and have been working them out of my system slowly. This particular use case is for a decently heavily traveled area at all times of the day, so having the dimming is actually rather important, but not absolutely required so long as I can get everything else I want. I have other ides for when dimmable is needed. Been using LED strip lighting in other use cases, and that could work here too. But still would like smart bulbs to replace the bulbs in the fixture in question rather than putting in a relay (obviously also an option). Choices choices choices!
Great video, as always. Disappointed, but not completely surprised by the Hue results. I've switched to Hue for most of my smart bulbs simply because I have found them the most reliable and am tired of trying new bulbs that always seem to lose connectivity. I also like that by connecting them via the Hue bridge I can connect them to multiple hubs vs zigbee that can only connect to one hub at a time. But I hate the price, that's for sure. May have to give the INNR bulbs a look.
the variety, quality, availability of smart bulbs is so vast nowadays... i remember outfitting my entire home with philips hue because they were practically the only game in town (even lifx wasn't around yet)
Having since got the Innr bulbs I have to say they are crap. for 1100 lumen supposed bulbs they are exceedingly dim. They also have a distinctly green/purple light cast and the Zigbee automation if very laggy. Sometimes it will take up to 19 seconds for them to respond to an instruction. Not good. I'm going to have to return them. I'll have to go back to Philips Hue. They may only be a 80CRI but the overall quality of the light and operation is so much better.
I don't care for this kind of lightbulbs, but I like the host's work and his editing style so I watch the video anyway waiting for a new projectors review :)
I've been very happy with the Sengled Zigbee bulbs. Sengled Zigbee also default to on when power is restored, but so far I've found this to be a feature rather than a problem -- When my wife wants a smart light on outside of the automated schedule and doesn't want to bother with the app or voice command she can just toggle the light switch off and back on again. But, yeah, it is jarring when power is lost and restored in the middle of the night -- but that doesn't happen too often.
Thank you as always for the detailed video and comparison. I'd love to see a similar comparison done for RGB bulbs. I've been searching for some to replace my old Hue bulbs but there are so many options and it is hard to know which will work with home assistant and also have good brightness and color reproduction etc.
@@TheHookUp The good colour bulbs have RGBWW LEDs with warm and cool white so they can do proper tunable white ranges. Certainly my (now rather is old) Hue bulbs all do this and I can't see much/any difference between the my colour and tunable white bulbs in use for white shades... Except the colour bulbs have an extended Kelvin range due to the dedicated R and B LEDs.
Quality content. Here's my question about bulbs: What are the best low kelvin bulbs available? This is with regard to Dark Sky and wildlife interference. So the base level is 2700k and going down, I've recently replaced many of those with 2200k, 2000k and 'bug lights' that don't have a stated kelvin rating (and Feit wouldn't tell me either when I emailed them). There's also Emery Allen that produce turtle safe bulbs for areas along the coastal US where sea turtles nest. I know this is more niche in terms of the views, but it's the rabbit hole I'm currently down. And warmer lower light would actually be better for human health and counter intuitively, outdoor visibility.
@@TheHookUp up until just recently it was a random mix of HomePod minis and Apple TV 4Ks. Now I select the HomePod mini. I’ve never had thread network issues but I have a strong thread network with a lot of regular router devices. I just checked and I have my Nanoleaf bulbs from Dec 2020. May have been my first thread devices.
@@TheHookUp Might just need to update the firmware via the Nanoleaf app. I have some of their bulbs and strips and can say that they seemed to have trash connectivity until I updated them and now they work flawlessly.
@@TheHookUpdid you update the firmware? I've found that the past few firmwares have been rock solid for me. Doing a factory reset after updating helped and I haven't had any issues now. Also, make sure you remove the bulbs from "matter devices" in iPhone settings before adopting again. The color quality and dimming curve are excellent on the Nanoleaf
I was hoping to see how the Ikea stacked up overall along with other "good enough" bulbs, but you gave us all the data so I can compare for myself. It looked pretty good in the tests, so I'm assuming it lost mostly on the max temp being so low. I prefer my lights no higher than 4k, so I don't think the Inno would be an upgrade over the TRÅDFRI bulbs I'm already using.
15% flicker at 122hz is not great. Max CCT was 4000K instead of 6500K. CRI was lower than innr and R9 score was 55. If Tradfri is all that's available it's not terrible, but I would never pick it over the innr.
Very interesting video. I just switched all my Innr bulbs for Hue. Reason: connection reliability. The Innrs kept losing the connection and are a pain to reset and get them back into pairing mode.
@@TheHookUp Sonoff stick in home assistant, but similar experience using a hue hub. Additionally, on locations where I wasn’t able to pair the Innrs, the hue bulbs paired instantaneously. I do realize that hue is more expensive, but to put it in the words of Paul Hibbert: It just works 😂 As a nuance: The indoors paired fine while new, then after a few months, would loose connection and repairing was needed. The ones I used outdoors (were first used indoors) and refused to pair while outside. Additionally, this is the case with all my Innr gear: light bulbs, GU10s, smart plugs etc. Seems to be an Innr issue.
Based on my testing the hue stuff was just bad. Bad CRI, high flicker, low brightness. One thing I did notice about the innr bulbs in home assistant is that they would choose the closest zigbee repeater rather than trying to communicate directly with the hub (even if the hub was in range). I was able to get them to switch to the hub by pressing the "reconfigure" button in ZHA. Hue bulbs seemed to prefer a direct connection to the hub.
@@TheHookUp "Bad CRI, high flicker, low brightness" are not items that I experience or would know how to see. I guess that when setting lights side by side that it would be noticable. For me, as long as there is light of sufficient brightness and the color-T I like ( I choose the value based on what the light puts out), I'm ok. Also, my eyes are not sensitive enough to see flicker. The light not turning on/off (all my lights are automated, I have no switches), is a bigger problem for me (and my wife).
When using smart lights, how do you work with the wall switches? What is the best practices/options? So far i've always opted for making the wall switch smart (e.g. installing a z-wave dimmer behind it) rather than the light itself. That way i can control the light using the wall switch and my home automation and smartphone. But as you say no colour temperature and dimming isn't perfect.
I am just about to start the actual construction process on a new house. Any chance you have some advice on things to consider in terms of wiring / cabling, design, home automation, internet, security, smart devices, etc.? Maybe you could even make a video about this? 😉 Thanks!
Wire is relatively cheap and ethernet is versatile. If I were building I'd put ethernet drops everywhere (at the top of each window, any potential TV mounting location, any potential security camera mounting location, wireless access point mounting locations on the ceiling, etc). Also make sure all those drops terminate somewhere that you have proper ventilation for network gear.
@@TheHookUp Thanks! I hadn't thought much about proper ventilation in some cases, thanks! We're running CAT6 into every room (including the ceilings) and to the front gate and a few outdoor locations. We're thinking a full Ubiquiti setup, but I haven't been too deep in the weeds there yet. Any advice there is appreciated as well. Where I haven't spent any time researching yet is Zigbee vs Matter and Home Assistant / Apple Home stuff. If we have super solid ethernet and wifi everywhere is that sufficient a plan at this point, or are there things I should look into before construction actually starts next month? Also, we want professional, super high quality LED lighting (that's fully controllable via app / Home Assistant) everywhere and I don't yet trust my builder and architect on building that out properly. Any general pointers where I should start researching? I'm worried they won't source the best LED lighting and don't know yet what to advise them. Thank you!! Absolutely adore and appreciate your helpful content and insight! 🥰
Also, why ethernet above each window? We have maybe 25 windows and several large sliding glass doors. I hadn't considered dropping ethernet to any of them. 😲
Automated blinds. Running power to those locations after construction is basically impossible, which means you'd be stuck with battery powered options if you ever decide you want them in the future.
Great reviews. I know its not something easily tested but longevity has been a big issue with some of my first smart bulbs I got. To spend that much for light bulbs to have them stop working after only 2 years was a bit disappointing.
I took a risk and bought the nanoleaf essentials. I bought the new Google TV streamer which has an embedded thread border router. I got home assistant to use that border router. I first tried controlling the nanoleaf using the nanoleaf app which uses Bluetooth and that worked perfectly fine. I then opened home assistant and selected add device, chose matter, scanned the QR code and it then integrated the light into the matter network using the thread border router. Seems to work perfectly fine. That said now the nanoleaf app using Bluetooth no longer works. Maybe it doesn't support Bluetooth and thread at the same time. No problem for me.
It does not support both connection types at the same time. What I did was connect them to the nanoleaf app, update the firmware, factory reset and then just skip google home/homekit alltogether and just add it to matter via home assistant. They respond so quickly and never fail me.
Thanks for this. A few years ago I was quite certain I wanted to get plain (not smart) light bulbs along with dimmers, but there were a few places in my (very old) house where a smart bulb really made a lot of sense. And based on my experience with those smart-bulbs, I've been thinking putting smart light bulbs in more places. I have Nanoleaf bulbs in Apple Home (and only Apple Home), and sometimes they have been unreliable. Lately they seem to be noticeably more reliable, but I couldn't really say why. Perhaps recent updates in the world of Apple's HomeKit?
@@TheHookUp - Pretty sure it's thread. I don't like adding lots of devices to my WiFi network, especially for devices which have very little data to send. I should add that I have several Eve Energy smart plugs around my house, so my thread network is probably in pretty good shape.
@@TheHookUp - I ordered a bulb or two at a time over the past 16 months. The boxes all say "Matter A19 | E26 Smart Bulb". According to my Eve application, all the bulbs show up in the Thread network of my house. FWIW, the Nanoleaf box in your line-up looks like the first bulb I bought. The box for the newer bulbs that I bought also have a little box on the front which says "Works with Alexa". I suspect that's just a matter of a newer version of firmware. The Nanoleaf app says that all of my bulbs are running firmware version 3.6.196. I do remember a weird issue with the upgrade to this most-recent firmware. It showed up for one bulb, but then it was about a week before it showed up as available for a second bulb, and then the rest got the update a day or two later.
Did you update the firmware on the Nanoleaf bulbs? I have a ton of them and with the lastest firmware they never disconnect or are slow to respond in the apple home app over thread from an Apple TV hub. I don't use the Nanoleaf app at all except for updates.
I have been using the TP-Link Kasa & Tapo bulbs. I was sad to see you did not test either. Kasa (Tapo) switches, doorbell, and USB Cameras I believe are the quickest to aquire, install and achieve basic smart home functionality with a Nest Hub and/or onn. Google TV 4K Pro Streaming Device. I also use often discounted TP-Link Deco products to quickly achieve full home Wi-Fi.
How is INNR flicker in between color temps like 3000-4000k? I’ve noticed that ikea led bulbs for example alternate between warm and cool leds which isn’t as ideal as steady from both. You can see this if you point your smartphone at the led and lower exposure.
Sorry off topic but watching SO many of your videos ❤ projectors (gaming): unique explanation and demonstration. Any reason why a benq4000i 4k120hz is hard or can we expect a good affordable ish 120 4k gaming projector soon? Not forking out for sub par ls12000 latency lol and Epson followed those with LUMENS...🤦♀️
4K120hz from a DLP projector is unlikely to happen any time soon. Texas Instruments doesn't make an affordable native 4k DMD, so the only hope would be a 2x pixel shifting DMD that could operate at 240hz natively, which also doesn't currently exist.
I wish Ikea bulb were in the list becaues that the one i have x) (that said with the latest ikea update who killed my bulb i will go Innr) ! Thank you for the review very good !
Just backed the Valerion Visionmaster Max in kickstarter to replace my N1 Ultra. The specs and current reviews seem really promising. Will this projector be in your upcoming set of lifestyle projector reviews? The cutoff for cancelling my pledge is the 24th of November, would love to hear your thoughts on it before then
I’d love your recommendation for a Bluetooth connection only bulb? I’d like to use a couple Bluetooth bulbs in my office but cannot use the WiFi for non work purposes. Any recommendations? I’m very novice with smart bulbs.
I've been running Wiz bulbs for just over 3 1/2 years without issue, including using them in fixtures outside of my garage and in my covered porch. Interesting to see how they stack up to newer bulbs. I use Alexa, mainly, and they've worked really well over the years and are pretty responsive. Also Wiz sells physical remotes, and I have a bunch of them as well since they were giving them away as part of a promotion, very handy. I can use the Wiz bulbs with Apple Homekit, but they are a bit more flaky and slower to respond, but I didn't have the same types of issues you had here, although I added them via the Wiz app. Most of my house are BR30's, 22 of them I believe, however the lights outside of the garage are traditional A19 sockets, just putting that out there in case it matters. Anyways, great video, good to see some other options.
For the zigbee bulbs are these all router types too? I would think that's a very important item when making a decision. I bought a bunch of cheaper bulbs before only to find out that I was having disconnect issues in my network cause my only router was my dongle.
Most lightbulbs are not routers as they are considered to be unreliable because it is too common for people to not consider the bulbs to be smart and turn off the switch disabling the light completely. I would not recommend using a bulb as a router.
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I am curious how noticable the pink tint on the Innr bulb is, since everything else about it seems great. Unfortunately I don't really have any point of comparison for Duv, and I feel like you skipped over it entirely in the conclusion, despite having measured it, and your top pick being the worst in that regard.
@@TheHookUp I've got one of the '90s double bulb flood lights... Two stories up so I thought if they were decent bulbs I could just screw in there. It would be nice.
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That link to the Innr bulb doesn't show any useful results. I could not find it even on Innr's own web site. Is this still available?
I just bought the Innr. I use zigbee2mqtt and the Conbee II. The lights do not appear as discovered in the Zigbee2MQTT dashboard and yes I have it set to allow new devices. What do I need to do to make them discoverable?
The requirements were simple: 1) No manufacturer app required. 2) Local control required. Govee bulbs still do not support matter and require the Govee app.
My innr bulbs regularly don't turn on or off as instructed while Hue and Ikea never have this problem. There is more to a good light bulb than the lumen per dollar.
If you're using home assistant and ZHA try clicking "view network" under the 3 dot menu for your bulb. I have been using 4 innr 800L bulbs for about 3 months now and 2 of them were a little finnicky at first, but I realized that they had joined a "2 hop" router on my zigbee mesh. I hit the reconfigure button and they joined directly to the zigbee dongle and have been working perfectly since.
@@TheHookUp I have used ZHA, Z2M and Hue bridge. After a bit of fiddling, it works for a month or two and then there are issues again. It's just not great. Many people will regret buying Innr.
@@TheHookUp definitely the bulb. I have swapped innr, Ikea and hue around and the issue is always with the innr bulbs or innr spots. Also, I'm not the only one with these kind of problems with innr.
I consulted Twinkly lights- their CEO told me he thought Matter was already dead. Despite really wanting Matter to survive, I wonder if he's right? Do you have a take on that?
I'm out to "smartify" my home, starting with lightbulbs that I need to be dimmable and be able to tune the colour. I'm came here after seeing your excellent 1y old video about led lightbubs, and now discover the complete shitshow of compromises that need to be made when choosing smart led bulbs. My biggest issue is with "smart light bulbs" in the first place that are not only a light bulb but a whole freaking computer with a connectivity circuit, that will become eWaste the day they fail. I dream of a world where the lightbulbs only incorporates what they really need (the electronics to dim and change colour) while the connectivity is rather in a "smart socket" that would sit between the lightbulb's socket and the socket holder, act as the thread/zigbee/wifi/whatever endpoint and transmit to the bulb instruction to dim/change colour...
I wasn't dissatisfied with their performance but I've had more Innr bulbs fail on me than Hue bulbs, so I stopped using them. Maybe I just got a couple of duds but as far as I can see no data on longevity exists, so my own experience is all I have to go on.
Leedarson is the OEM on many of the WiFi matter bulbs. I don't think Nanoleaf makes WiFi matter bulbs, do they? The requirements were simple: 1) No manufacturer app required. 2) Local control required.
I see this one: amzn.to/3BZDYJy But it says "A Matter compatible hub, thread border router, and iOS/tvOS 16.5+ or Android OS 8.1+ is required to connect this bulb to a smart home ecosystem. See requirements below. For control with just the Nanoleaf App, only WiFi is required." which leads me to believe it isn't actually matter compatible.
@@TheHookUp Yeah, I saw it on their site as my local HD has the 3pack on clearance for $19 so I was doing research. They have the option for Matter over Wifi and Matter over Thread. Maybe they are only currently selling it directly? From their Site: Enjoy fast and reliable control of this Matter & Wi-Fi Smart Bulb that boasts bright tunable whites, over 16M colors to choose from and a unique multi-faceted bulb design. Perfect for your daily lighting needs. - Use with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or Matter over Wi-Fi - 16+ Million Colors & Color-Changing Scenes - Tunable Whites (2700K-6500K) - Control with Nanoleaf App or through a Smart Home Ecosystem for Voice Control Requires a Matter compatible smart home hub and iOS/tvOS 16.5+ or Android OS 8.1+ to connect to a smart home ecosystem.
@@TheHookUp In addition in their FAQ for the matter over wifi they have this: What do I need to use it? Requires a 2.4gHZ Wi-Fi network, Matter compatible smart home hub and iOS/tvOS 16.5+ or Android OS 8.1+ to connect to a smart home ecosystem. Users can just use Bluetooth and Wi-Fi to connect with the Nanoleaf App that last one seems to be in addition to the first one. Seems like at least another option?
Big fan of Z-wave as well, shame that it's nearly dead. I'm looking at moving over to matter over thread now. But I can't understand why for many devices most of the advanced options can't be set via thread but require their proprietary app or even hub... And just today I was looking at the nanoleaf as my first thread device, but then Rob says he never got it to work...I want reliable devices.
@@TheHookUp I don't think its possible to compute the TM30 from the given data. "The problem with CRI is that it’s based on only 8 pastel colors. The real world has infinitely more colors than eight and they are fully saturated. A high CRI score doesn’t necessarily mean the light is good. Because CRI only measures how faithfully eight colors are rendered compared to the reference light, unscrupulous manufacturers can “game the system” by developing lamps with high CRI values but poor-quality light." The problem with high TM30 bulbs is poor energy efficiency when measured as lumens / watt. This is because lumens is a measure of "perceived power of visible light", which is not equivalent to actual power emitted... The way energy efficiency is improved these days is to only emit spectrum the eye is most sensitive to, but this has negative effects on light quality.
What about longevity? The last bulb video winners are trash, they burn out in months. Are any of these leds properly driven? or are they all overdriven like everything else and designed to die fast?
I haven't had a single Philips Ultra Def go out. It seems like people either have zero issues with them, or tons of issues. One theory being tossed around is that they cannot handle low voltage mains. Many of the people having issues report 109-114V mains. I personally have 119-120V.
*lol... I had to pause the vid 3 times due to the triggering technical talk! Next time wear a white lab coat and explain everything in front of the test equipment so we can turn you into the next turbo encanbulator meme.*
Best Overall: Innr 1100lm: amzn.to/48myTXW
Best Matter: Linkind A19: amzn.to/48lymVX
Best Thread: Nanoleaf Essentials: amzn.to/4e0nlL9
Best Vintage: Orein Filament: amzn.to/3YAERkE
Hm, what was the big shortcoming of the Ikea Tradfri? Higher brightness, better power efficiency, cheaper, longer warranty, CRI over 90. Do I miss something or was the only real downside the white temp of ~2200-4000 instead of 6500K (which not everybody needs or wants)?
Don't get me wrong, I had some drop out issues with Ikea stuff, which was the reason I changed a lot to Innr in the last years. But I haven't tried the newer Ikea bulbs either and from your review they seem to be fairly good?
@@kaktus3175 15% flicker at 122hz is not great. Max CCT was 4000K instead of 6500K. CRI was lower than innr and R9 score was not great (55). Not a terrible bulb though.
@@TheHookUp Ah, I forgot the flicker :) Thank you - also for this very comprehensive test and overview!
Did you test production lighting for example from Aputure/Amran with their colour LED bulbs? All of whom claim a CRI of 95+ or better.
Seems like the Innr one in Europe is only available in non-tunable versions 2700k, what would you consider the second best zigbee bulb?
Love that you put the winners in the first few seconds of the video, then follow through with the most robust comparative analysis in the shortest amount of time. Truly an incredible channel. Let's get you to 500K this week!!!
The only videos I ever consider slowing down rather than speeding up.
Watch Project Farm videos…you will change your mind. 😅
I always really appreciate how you treat us viewers. Give us the winner up front, and let us stay around to enjoy the journey if we want to.
Respecting consumer’s time is a dying trait. Thanks for being a real one!
Thanks! More of this in the future would be awesome. So many bulbs out there!!!
Any one else enjoying watching this dude despite not having a single clue what he’s talking about but you can tell he is just killing it.
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This guy bulbs!
You are the only reviewer Ive seen actually test lumens at 1% brightness. Very useful for those who want to use it as a nightlight or bedtime scenes
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LONG I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A RESOURCE WHICH TELLS ME THE LOWEST BRIGHTNESS OF SMART BULBS FOR NIGHTLIGHT FUNCTION!!! YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH VALUE THIS BRINGS TO ME
As someone who truly requires this level of information about my lightbulbs, I thank you for your service. Really though, choosing new light bulbs can be absolute torture.
Thank you so much for all the work you did to bring us these results! This is so helpful. I would selfishly love to see the same type of analysis for RGBWW downlight/recessed/can-light local-control via home assistant lights. I need to replace ~20 old cans with new lights and would love your advice on what to pick.
I just purchased the zigbee colour bulb from Innr as a cheap hue compatible bulb and I am totally impressed by it. It’s actually better than my Phillips Hue.
Really? I am afraid to move away from hue. But I'm also afraid to buy anymore cause of their prices.
Come for the review, stay for the charts.
Fantastic. One suggestion for the future: test if/how well the bulbs work as Zigbee repeaters.
Thanks for including the power on states after power failure. I don’t want to use a manufacturer app as I’m moving to Home Assistant and want to replace my Wyze color bulbs when they die. They currently work with the Wyze integration in Home Assistant but are not the fastest to power on over WiFi, so the Innr Zigbee bulbs are definitely on my radar. Thanks for a great video.
You are a legend for putting the winners in the first 20 seconds. Excuse me while I smash those affiliate links
The timing this is perfect! I was just researching the best value zigbee light bulbs yesterday. Thanks for your comprehensive review!
It is so nice, clicking on a video knowing its just going to be good. Plain and simple educational content ❤
You covered so many of the important aspects. Love it. You've gained a subscriber from just this one video
Excellent video! I will say that I've had a couple of the nanoleaf (matter over thread) bulbs and one of their matter light strips for about a year now and I USED to have connection issues like you described a bit. Particularly with the light strip that was furthest in the chain of the thread mesh network. BUT in the past couple months I added one more bulb and with new firmware updates to all of them, they have been working essentially flawlessly! I can't even remember the last time I had one fail to be found in my apple home app (what i use for control). From the screenshot of your phone at 6:50 it looks like you're running an older firmware and I suspect if you were to update those bulbs now they would work way better!
Another really helpful video Rob. Thanks. I’m still a switch person, but if I need a bulb, will use your video to pick the best one for HA.
I’m absolutely loving this light bulb series! Any chance we’ll get recessed lights next?
Yes, those are next.
@@TheHookUp Perfect, thanks so much! Have you looked into the pros and cons of direct retrofits vs. something that uses a driver?
Heading over to Patreon now-you're easily worth as much as Consumer Reports.
Thanks for the excellent video! This must have taken you ages. I wasn't familiar with DUV - very interesting. Now I know why my Wiz bulbs lean green!
I currently use both Philips Hue and Innr bulbs and I've found no perceptible difference between them. As needed, I'll be replacing Hue with Innr due to cost savings. Local control and adaptive lighting in Home Assistant are a must for me. Nice video!
Which adaptive lighting are you using (adaptive, f.lux, circadian)?
@@TheHookUpI use the Adaptive Lighting integration in HA.
and can the inner bulbs can be controlled using Hue app?
side question have you found any chandlier bulbs that can be controlled inside hue app besides hue ones?
@@traubgatoryes, Innr bulbs can be adopted by the Hue bridge and controlled. 2nd question.. I don't know. You should search Google for your bulb type and Zigbee.
Once again, excellent work on the reviews.
As with pretty much everything I buy for our smarthome, my purchases are focused on taking care of my dad first. To that end, I'm looking for Globe style bulbs for our bathroom. I'm not looking to replace our fixture (extra $$$), so sticking with the globe style works best for me. My attempts to use the brands of your picks to find brands that sell globe smart bulbs, failed me so far. There just aren't a lot of options that I've found so far that aren't some random brand on amazon.
-globe style (specifically to replace what we have, which are starting to flicker)
-local control independent of internet (definitely a thing I've been focusing on lately)
-home assistant compatible in some way (Zigbee,Matter,Wifi)
-white or filament style bulbs would work
-dimmable
grr...I have too many must haves
Slowly trying to get into smart lighting, but very wary of the junk out there. Already been through one junk brand (Eufy IMO) and have been working them out of my system slowly. This particular use case is for a decently heavily traveled area at all times of the day, so having the dimming is actually rather important, but not absolutely required so long as I can get everything else I want. I have other ides for when dimmable is needed. Been using LED strip lighting in other use cases, and that could work here too. But still would like smart bulbs to replace the bulbs in the fixture in question rather than putting in a relay (obviously also an option). Choices choices choices!
Great video, as always. Disappointed, but not completely surprised by the Hue results. I've switched to Hue for most of my smart bulbs simply because I have found them the most reliable and am tired of trying new bulbs that always seem to lose connectivity. I also like that by connecting them via the Hue bridge I can connect them to multiple hubs vs zigbee that can only connect to one hub at a time. But I hate the price, that's for sure. May have to give the INNR bulbs a look.
thanks for putting the winners at the start
Absolutely insane information density, I couldn't imagine anything else you could test.
Super appreciate your reviews and comparisons! Definitely will look at this list if/when I move to one of these smart system.
Amazing review! To the point and so complete! You got my subscribed.
the variety, quality, availability of smart bulbs is so vast nowadays... i remember outfitting my entire home with philips hue because they were practically the only game in town (even lifx wasn't around yet)
Great review! No waffle and logical reasoning. Convinced me to use your affiliate link for Innr.
Having since got the Innr bulbs I have to say they are crap. for 1100 lumen supposed bulbs they are exceedingly dim. They also have a distinctly green/purple light cast and the Zigbee automation if very laggy. Sometimes it will take up to 19 seconds for them to respond to an instruction. Not good. I'm going to have to return them.
I'll have to go back to Philips Hue. They may only be a 80CRI but the overall quality of the light and operation is so much better.
I don't care for this kind of lightbulbs, but I like the host's work and his editing style so I watch the video anyway waiting for a new projectors review :)
Just what I’ve been waiting for.
I've been very happy with the Sengled Zigbee bulbs. Sengled Zigbee also default to on when power is restored, but so far I've found this to be a feature rather than a problem -- When my wife wants a smart light on outside of the automated schedule and doesn't want to bother with the app or voice command she can just toggle the light switch off and back on again. But, yeah, it is jarring when power is lost and restored in the middle of the night -- but that doesn't happen too often.
Wow I was looking for wxactly this, thanks and subscribed
Thank you as always for the detailed video and comparison. I'd love to see a similar comparison done for RGB bulbs. I've been searching for some to replace my old Hue bulbs but there are so many options and it is hard to know which will work with home assistant and also have good brightness and color reproduction etc.
Great video. It would be awesome if you could do this for RGB bulbs.
CRI on RGB bulbs is awful.
@@TheHookUp The good colour bulbs have RGBWW LEDs with warm and cool white so they can do proper tunable white ranges. Certainly my (now rather is old) Hue bulbs all do this and I can't see much/any difference between the my colour and tunable white bulbs in use for white shades... Except the colour bulbs have an extended Kelvin range due to the dedicated R and B LEDs.
Quality content. Here's my question about bulbs: What are the best low kelvin bulbs available? This is with regard to Dark Sky and wildlife interference. So the base level is 2700k and going down, I've recently replaced many of those with 2200k, 2000k and 'bug lights' that don't have a stated kelvin rating (and Feit wouldn't tell me either when I emailed them). There's also Emery Allen that produce turtle safe bulbs for areas along the coastal US where sea turtles nest. I know this is more niche in terms of the views, but it's the rabbit hole I'm currently down. And warmer lower light would actually be better for human health and counter intuitively, outdoor visibility.
Nanoleaf has been so solid, early thread supporter, and stable for about 4 years for me. Can’t recommend enough.
What are you using as a thread border router?
@@TheHookUp up until just recently it was a random mix of HomePod minis and Apple TV 4Ks. Now I select the HomePod mini. I’ve never had thread network issues but I have a strong thread network with a lot of regular router devices. I just checked and I have my Nanoleaf bulbs from Dec 2020. May have been my first thread devices.
The nanoleaf bulb was extremely high performing, so I was pretty bummed that the connectivity was so bad.
@@TheHookUp Might just need to update the firmware via the Nanoleaf app. I have some of their bulbs and strips and can say that they seemed to have trash connectivity until I updated them and now they work flawlessly.
@@TheHookUpdid you update the firmware? I've found that the past few firmwares have been rock solid for me. Doing a factory reset after updating helped and I haven't had any issues now. Also, make sure you remove the bulbs from "matter devices" in iPhone settings before adopting again. The color quality and dimming curve are excellent on the Nanoleaf
I love your reviews; almost too much info for me but still awesome!
I was hoping to see how the Ikea stacked up overall along with other "good enough" bulbs, but you gave us all the data so I can compare for myself. It looked pretty good in the tests, so I'm assuming it lost mostly on the max temp being so low.
I prefer my lights no higher than 4k, so I don't think the Inno would be an upgrade over the TRÅDFRI bulbs I'm already using.
15% flicker at 122hz is not great. Max CCT was 4000K instead of 6500K. CRI was lower than innr and R9 score was 55. If Tradfri is all that's available it's not terrible, but I would never pick it over the innr.
Very interesting video. I just switched all my Innr bulbs for Hue. Reason: connection reliability. The Innrs kept losing the connection and are a pain to reset and get them back into pairing mode.
What are you using as your hub?
@@TheHookUp Sonoff stick in home assistant, but similar experience using a hue hub. Additionally, on locations where I wasn’t able to pair the Innrs, the hue bulbs paired instantaneously. I do realize that hue is more expensive, but to put it in the words of Paul Hibbert: It just works 😂
As a nuance: The indoors paired fine while new, then after a few months, would loose connection and repairing was needed. The ones I used outdoors (were first used indoors) and refused to pair while outside.
Additionally, this is the case with all my Innr gear: light bulbs, GU10s, smart plugs etc. Seems to be an Innr issue.
Based on my testing the hue stuff was just bad. Bad CRI, high flicker, low brightness. One thing I did notice about the innr bulbs in home assistant is that they would choose the closest zigbee repeater rather than trying to communicate directly with the hub (even if the hub was in range). I was able to get them to switch to the hub by pressing the "reconfigure" button in ZHA. Hue bulbs seemed to prefer a direct connection to the hub.
@@TheHookUp "Bad CRI, high flicker, low brightness" are not items that I experience or would know how to see. I guess that when setting lights side by side that it would be noticable. For me, as long as there is light of sufficient brightness and the color-T I like ( I choose the value based on what the light puts out), I'm ok. Also, my eyes are not sensitive enough to see flicker.
The light not turning on/off (all my lights are automated, I have no switches), is a bigger problem for me (and my wife).
Hue bulbs do not have visible flicker in the real world, but their strips do. Whatever that flicker meter says, 1 kHz+ is completely imperceptible.
Rob great video and I will try out a few of the Innr bulbs.
When using smart lights, how do you work with the wall switches? What is the best practices/options?
So far i've always opted for making the wall switch smart (e.g. installing a z-wave dimmer behind it) rather than the light itself. That way i can control the light using the wall switch and my home automation and smartphone.
But as you say no colour temperature and dimming isn't perfect.
Great review. In the future, could you release the R9 values for all your test results? They're impossible to find!
Most of them are there. In the screenshots of the meter there is a value labeled R6-10 and it's the second to last number in that series.
I am just about to start the actual construction process on a new house. Any chance you have some advice on things to consider in terms of wiring / cabling, design, home automation, internet, security, smart devices, etc.?
Maybe you could even make a video about this? 😉
Thanks!
Wire is relatively cheap and ethernet is versatile. If I were building I'd put ethernet drops everywhere (at the top of each window, any potential TV mounting location, any potential security camera mounting location, wireless access point mounting locations on the ceiling, etc). Also make sure all those drops terminate somewhere that you have proper ventilation for network gear.
@@TheHookUp Thanks! I hadn't thought much about proper ventilation in some cases, thanks! We're running CAT6 into every room (including the ceilings) and to the front gate and a few outdoor locations. We're thinking a full Ubiquiti setup, but I haven't been too deep in the weeds there yet. Any advice there is appreciated as well. Where I haven't spent any time researching yet is Zigbee vs Matter and Home Assistant / Apple Home stuff. If we have super solid ethernet and wifi everywhere is that sufficient a plan at this point, or are there things I should look into before construction actually starts next month?
Also, we want professional, super high quality LED lighting (that's fully controllable via app / Home Assistant) everywhere and I don't yet trust my builder and architect on building that out properly. Any general pointers where I should start researching? I'm worried they won't source the best LED lighting and don't know yet what to advise them.
Thank you!! Absolutely adore and appreciate your helpful content and insight! 🥰
Also, why ethernet above each window? We have maybe 25 windows and several large sliding glass doors. I hadn't considered dropping ethernet to any of them. 😲
Automated blinds. Running power to those locations after construction is basically impossible, which means you'd be stuck with battery powered options if you ever decide you want them in the future.
Amazing work, thank you. Could you do the same with rgb bulbs ?
Thanks Rob.
Great info. Thanks! No Feit smart bulbs though? I guess because requires special app? Supposedly can integrate with google, amazon though.
Feit bulbs are Tuya and do not support matter, so disqualified.
This is great. Thank you! I noticed that LIFX bulbs were not included. Was that because they fell out of some criteria you had?
Yes, LIFX requires the manufacturer app.
Great reviews. I know its not something easily tested but longevity has been a big issue with some of my first smart bulbs I got. To spend that much for light bulbs to have them stop working after only 2 years was a bit disappointing.
I took a risk and bought the nanoleaf essentials.
I bought the new Google TV streamer which has an embedded thread border router.
I got home assistant to use that border router.
I first tried controlling the nanoleaf using the nanoleaf app which uses Bluetooth and that worked perfectly fine.
I then opened home assistant and selected add device, chose matter, scanned the QR code and it then integrated the light into the matter network using the thread border router.
Seems to work perfectly fine.
That said now the nanoleaf app using Bluetooth no longer works. Maybe it doesn't support Bluetooth and thread at the same time. No problem for me.
It does not support both connection types at the same time. What I did was connect them to the nanoleaf app, update the firmware, factory reset and then just skip google home/homekit alltogether and just add it to matter via home assistant. They respond so quickly and never fail me.
Thanks for this. A few years ago I was quite certain I wanted to get plain (not smart) light bulbs along with dimmers, but there were a few places in my (very old) house where a smart bulb really made a lot of sense. And based on my experience with those smart-bulbs, I've been thinking putting smart light bulbs in more places. I have Nanoleaf bulbs in Apple Home (and only Apple Home), and sometimes they have been unreliable. Lately they seem to be noticeably more reliable, but I couldn't really say why. Perhaps recent updates in the world of Apple's HomeKit?
Is your nanoleaf stuff thread or WiFi?
@@TheHookUp - Pretty sure it's thread. I don't like adding lots of devices to my WiFi network, especially for devices which have very little data to send.
I should add that I have several Eve Energy smart plugs around my house, so my thread network is probably in pretty good shape.
@@TheHookUp - I ordered a bulb or two at a time over the past 16 months. The boxes all say "Matter A19 | E26 Smart Bulb". According to my Eve application, all the bulbs show up in the Thread network of my house. FWIW, the Nanoleaf box in your line-up looks like the first bulb I bought. The box for the newer bulbs that I bought also have a little box on the front which says "Works with Alexa". I suspect that's just a matter of a newer version of firmware. The Nanoleaf app says that all of my bulbs are running firmware version 3.6.196. I do remember a weird issue with the upgrade to this most-recent firmware. It showed up for one bulb, but then it was about a week before it showed up as available for a second bulb, and then the rest got the update a day or two later.
Did you update the firmware on the Nanoleaf bulbs? I have a ton of them and with the lastest firmware they never disconnect or are slow to respond in the apple home app over thread from an Apple TV hub. I don't use the Nanoleaf app at all except for updates.
I have been using the TP-Link Kasa & Tapo bulbs. I was sad to see you did not test either. Kasa (Tapo) switches, doorbell, and USB Cameras I believe are the quickest to aquire, install and achieve basic smart home functionality with a Nest Hub and/or onn. Google TV 4K Pro Streaming Device. I also use often discounted TP-Link Deco products to quickly achieve full home Wi-Fi.
Those do not qualify based on selection criteria since they 1) require the manufacturer app, and 2) do not have local control.
Would have loved to see some 1600lm bulbs. 800 lumen barely make a difference on a cloudy day :/ Otherwise really great information! Keep it up
How is INNR flicker in between color temps like 3000-4000k? I’ve noticed that ikea led bulbs for example alternate between warm and cool leds which isn’t as ideal as steady from both. You can see this if you point your smartphone at the led and lower exposure.
The flicker tests were all done at 3000K, so even on a mixed temp it was less than 1%.
Innr?... I did NOT see that coming. I have one of their smart plugs for the outdoors but who knew.
Me either.
Sorry off topic but watching SO many of your videos ❤ projectors (gaming): unique explanation and demonstration. Any reason why a benq4000i 4k120hz is hard or can we expect a good affordable ish 120 4k gaming projector soon? Not forking out for sub par ls12000 latency lol and Epson followed those with LUMENS...🤦♀️
4K120hz from a DLP projector is unlikely to happen any time soon. Texas Instruments doesn't make an affordable native 4k DMD, so the only hope would be a 2x pixel shifting DMD that could operate at 240hz natively, which also doesn't currently exist.
Do you have a video like this but for rgbww led light strips?
No, just white LED strips: th-cam.com/video/y3qL9o7CvEA/w-d-xo.html
I wish Ikea bulb were in the list becaues that the one i have x) (that said with the latest ikea update who killed my bulb i will go Innr) !
Thank you for the review very good !
They were on the list :)
@@TheHookUp you right ! Damn I'm blind thank you !
Great video, would be great to se this comparison for GU-10 bulbs!
Just backed the Valerion Visionmaster Max in kickstarter to replace my N1 Ultra. The specs and current reviews seem really promising. Will this projector be in your upcoming set of lifestyle projector reviews? The cutoff for cancelling my pledge is the 24th of November, would love to hear your thoughts on it before then
Yes, that video will be out in 2 days.
Unbelievable. You’re the best
Hi ,
Formovie Theater premium... Threat ? or hard competitor to Nexigo Aurora Pro ?
I’d love your recommendation for a Bluetooth connection only bulb? I’d like to use a couple Bluetooth bulbs in my office but cannot use the WiFi for non work purposes. Any recommendations? I’m very novice with smart bulbs.
Nanoleaf Essentials
I've been running Wiz bulbs for just over 3 1/2 years without issue, including using them in fixtures outside of my garage and in my covered porch. Interesting to see how they stack up to newer bulbs. I use Alexa, mainly, and they've worked really well over the years and are pretty responsive. Also Wiz sells physical remotes, and I have a bunch of them as well since they were giving them away as part of a promotion, very handy. I can use the Wiz bulbs with Apple Homekit, but they are a bit more flaky and slower to respond, but I didn't have the same types of issues you had here, although I added them via the Wiz app. Most of my house are BR30's, 22 of them I believe, however the lights outside of the garage are traditional A19 sockets, just putting that out there in case it matters. Anyways, great video, good to see some other options.
Do all of the Zigbee bulbs function as routers on the network? I have found some bulbs only appear as end devices.
Can you make comparison of GU10 White CCT bulbs?
For the zigbee bulbs are these all router types too? I would think that's a very important item when making a decision. I bought a bunch of cheaper bulbs before only to find out that I was having disconnect issues in my network cause my only router was my dongle.
Most lightbulbs are not routers as they are considered to be unreliable because it is too common for people to not consider the bulbs to be smart and turn off the switch disabling the light completely. I would not recommend using a bulb as a router.
I am curious how noticable the pink tint on the Innr bulb is, since everything else about it seems great. Unfortunately I don't really have any point of comparison for Duv, and I feel like you skipped over it entirely in the conclusion, despite having measured it, and your top pick being the worst in that regard.
Most people do not react negatively to negative (pink) Duv, only green tint seems to set people off.
Do the inner bulbs add as an end device or router ?
Can you do one of these for flood light bulbs?
Pancake/recessed lights are next.
@@TheHookUp I've got one of the '90s double bulb flood lights... Two stories up so I thought if they were decent bulbs I could just screw in there. It would be nice.
That link to the Innr bulb doesn't show any useful results. I could not find it even on Innr's own web site. Is this still available?
What country?
Innr website seems broken af.
I'm just curious. Why did wyze nor lifx not make the shootout?
They require the manufacturer apps.
I just bought the Innr. I use zigbee2mqtt and the Conbee II. The lights do not appear as discovered in the Zigbee2MQTT dashboard and yes I have it set to allow new devices. What do I need to do to make them discoverable?
I don't think zigbee2mqtt matters as much as your zigbee dongle, what are you using?
@@TheHookUp Conbee II
@@TheHookUp BTW Innr's RGB lights work fine. This is first non RGB light I have used.
Do a color bulb too!
Any reason you omitted the Kasa light bulbs?
No open protocol, requires Kasa app.
Great job!!
Hi Rob. Any reason why Govee bulb is not included in your test?
The requirements were simple:
1) No manufacturer app required.
2) Local control required.
Govee bulbs still do not support matter and require the Govee app.
I've spent a fair bit of money on stuff you've recommended. And now I need to buy all new lightbulbs??? Ridiculous. 😆
thank you!
My innr bulbs regularly don't turn on or off as instructed while Hue and Ikea never have this problem.
There is more to a good light bulb than the lumen per dollar.
If you're using home assistant and ZHA try clicking "view network" under the 3 dot menu for your bulb. I have been using 4 innr 800L bulbs for about 3 months now and 2 of them were a little finnicky at first, but I realized that they had joined a "2 hop" router on my zigbee mesh. I hit the reconfigure button and they joined directly to the zigbee dongle and have been working perfectly since.
@@TheHookUp I have used ZHA, Z2M and Hue bridge. After a bit of fiddling, it works for a month or two and then there are issues again. It's just not great. Many people will regret buying Innr.
@jaap7374 but again, do you think it’s the bulb or the zigbee network?
@@TheHookUp definitely the bulb. I have swapped innr, Ikea and hue around and the issue is always with the innr bulbs or innr spots.
Also, I'm not the only one with these kind of problems with innr.
@@TheHookUp Did you test only ZHA? I'm using Z2M.
Can please you do review on 4k home projector?
I've reviewed almost every 4K home projector on the market, which one are you looking for?
@@TheHookUp can you review the newest projector “Benq gp520 “? Thanks a lot!!
I consulted Twinkly lights- their CEO told me he thought Matter was already dead. Despite really wanting Matter to survive, I wonder if he's right? Do you have a take on that?
Matter is important. Before matter there is zero chance that those WiFi bulbs would have been able to be locally controlled.
Next video suggestion: Light Bulbs with RGB
I'm out to "smartify" my home, starting with lightbulbs that I need to be dimmable and be able to tune the colour. I'm came here after seeing your excellent 1y old video about led lightbubs, and now discover the complete shitshow of compromises that need to be made when choosing smart led bulbs. My biggest issue is with "smart light bulbs" in the first place that are not only a light bulb but a whole freaking computer with a connectivity circuit, that will become eWaste the day they fail. I dream of a world where the lightbulbs only incorporates what they really need (the electronics to dim and change colour) while the connectivity is rather in a "smart socket" that would sit between the lightbulb's socket and the socket holder, act as the thread/zigbee/wifi/whatever endpoint and transmit to the bulb instruction to dim/change colour...
I wasn't dissatisfied with their performance but I've had more Innr bulbs fail on me than Hue bulbs, so I stopped using them. Maybe I just got a couple of duds but as far as I can see no data on longevity exists, so my own experience is all I have to go on.
Yeah, unfortunately, longevity tests are not really possible on a TH-cam timeframe.
Great comparison, but sad to see big players like Govee and LIFX didn't make it to this list...Especially Govee.
They will make it on the list when they start supporting open protocols like Matter.
Hey are you doing a new video about cheap projector in 2024?
Yes, November 22nd.
@@TheHookUp thanks
You only tested Nanoleaf's Thread bulbs? No other one like Mujoy/Leedarson from AiDot?
Leedarson is the OEM on many of the WiFi matter bulbs. I don't think Nanoleaf makes WiFi matter bulbs, do they? The requirements were simple:
1) No manufacturer app required.
2) Local control required.
@@TheHookUp They do make WiFi matter bulbs, but it depends on "shape" (i.e. a19 offers matter over Wifi, but BR30s do not)
I see this one: amzn.to/3BZDYJy
But it says "A Matter compatible hub, thread border router, and iOS/tvOS 16.5+ or Android OS 8.1+ is required to connect this bulb to a smart home ecosystem. See requirements below. For control with just the Nanoleaf App, only WiFi is required." which leads me to believe it isn't actually matter compatible.
@@TheHookUp Yeah, I saw it on their site as my local HD has the 3pack on clearance for $19 so I was doing research. They have the option for Matter over Wifi and Matter over Thread. Maybe they are only currently selling it directly? From their Site:
Enjoy fast and reliable control of this Matter & Wi-Fi Smart Bulb that boasts bright tunable whites, over 16M colors to choose from and a unique multi-faceted bulb design. Perfect for your daily lighting needs.
- Use with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or Matter over Wi-Fi
- 16+ Million Colors & Color-Changing Scenes
- Tunable Whites (2700K-6500K)
- Control with Nanoleaf App or through a Smart Home Ecosystem for Voice Control
Requires a Matter compatible smart home hub and iOS/tvOS 16.5+ or Android OS 8.1+ to connect to a smart home ecosystem.
@@TheHookUp In addition in their FAQ for the matter over wifi they have this:
What do I need to use it?
Requires a 2.4gHZ Wi-Fi network, Matter compatible smart home hub and iOS/tvOS 16.5+ or Android OS 8.1+ to connect to a smart home ecosystem.
Users can just use Bluetooth and Wi-Fi to connect with the Nanoleaf App
that last one seems to be in addition to the first one.
Seems like at least another option?
i want this but with bulbs that can do color and white
One of the best interviews I have seen from Apple. More openly
It's disappointing that there aren't really any ZWave options anymore. To me ZWave not being 2.4Ghz is a killer feature.
I agree, I was a Zwave guy, but it appears that protocol is on its way out.
Big fan of Z-wave as well, shame that it's nearly dead.
I'm looking at moving over to matter over thread now.
But I can't understand why for many devices most of the advanced options can't be set via thread but require their proprietary app or even hub...
And just today I was looking at the nanoleaf as my first thread device, but then Rob says he never got it to work...I want reliable devices.
Its a pity you did not do TM30 readings, CRI is not as helpful
I showed the entire spectrogram and R1-R15, that should be plenty to figure out whatever you need.
@@TheHookUp I don't think its possible to compute the TM30 from the given data.
"The problem with CRI is that it’s based on only 8 pastel colors. The real world has infinitely more colors than eight and they are fully saturated.
A high CRI score doesn’t necessarily mean the light is good. Because CRI only measures how faithfully eight colors are rendered compared to the reference light, unscrupulous manufacturers can “game the system” by developing lamps with high CRI values but poor-quality light."
The problem with high TM30 bulbs is poor energy efficiency when measured as lumens / watt. This is because lumens is a measure of "perceived power of visible light", which is not equivalent to actual power emitted...
The way energy efficiency is improved these days is to only emit spectrum the eye is most sensitive to, but this has negative effects on light quality.
not very good. test the led Ledvance Sun@home. it's the must with the Ra :-)
Neither of those companies make smart bulbs, so I’m not sure the point of this comment.
What about longevity? The last bulb video winners are trash, they burn out in months. Are any of these leds properly driven? or are they all overdriven like everything else and designed to die fast?
I haven't had a single Philips Ultra Def go out. It seems like people either have zero issues with them, or tons of issues. One theory being tossed around is that they cannot handle low voltage mains. Many of the people having issues report 109-114V mains. I personally have 119-120V.
Innr bulbs have 54% success rate on Amazon and 14% 1 stars... - no, thank you
Always read the one star reviews. 90% of them are just people saying they are incompatible with hue sync.
PLEASE DO A VIDEO ABOUT THE MESSAGE APP'S BEING REMOVED! 250 MILLION ARE GETTING AFFECTED
*lol... I had to pause the vid 3 times due to the triggering technical talk! Next time wear a white lab coat and explain everything in front of the test equipment so we can turn you into the next turbo encanbulator meme.*
Tried to make it as simple as possible without wasting everyone's time :)
Hope the filament kind becomes more popular cause some fixtures are not as evenly lit with the "top half" only bulb style