@@kirin8735 Yea pretty much. Sure he didn’t crack under the pressure in game, but the pressure of competing and being on a very strict schedule took a huge toll on his mental health
Alpha Crash X You can do it, you just need to either do it at the right times (when the enemy push failed and you want to get an early pick for the next fight) or when you have the support while pushing.
Alpha Crash X I may not be a as good as pine or any other pro BUT I’m also not playing against any other pros. So the skill ratio would still allow me to play in the same positioning
for me, the big advantage of NYXL comes from jjonak, he's basically a dps zenyatta, while providing utility and healing and zen hard counters a lot of ults.
Actually, the answer is Mano. The casual viewer will be thinking that Pine carried the team hard. But if you look closely, you'll see that it was in fact Mano who enabled Pine to do his job, and allowed the supports to pocket him when needed because Mano himself simply wasn't taking unnecessary damage, WHILE creating space. Mano is, in my honest opinion, the best 9/10 player in the world at his role. What does that mean? It mean's that his Reinhardt/Winston/Orisa are ALL at an equal level and no role is weaker than the other. He is the LEAST flashy main tank in the league....but he is undoubtedly the most reliable when push comes to shove. I'd say he is the 'enabler' tank who puts his team on his shoulders and lifts them up so that they can perform to greatness.
I've actually noticed that because NYXL is a lock for the season playoffs, they're actually using Janus for the first two maps against weaker teams to get him up to speed with the rest of the team. They're nowhere near as good and actually lose quite a bit. But after halftime, Mano will come back in, create space, and simply be a better main tank, and that's when the turnarounds happen. With Mano in the lineup, the NYXL are very much the best team in the league. Going back and analyzing the past few games, I even believe that they would've won the Boston game had they had Mano in the entire time. I think they didn't realize that Boston was THAT good and starting off 0-2 in the map differential with Janus in was a huge handicap for them. Mano came in the second half and they had a chance to reverse sweep, but Boston is actually good enough to win the remaining 1 out of 3. If he was in the entire time, I think NYXL rough out a win with 5 actual chances.
@DKC48 you are Dead On. Mano is the tank that NYXL fall back on when their backs are to the wall. Yet you compare him to Janus, and you see that Janus is the aggressive fragger tank. Mano will almost NEVER shine in the spotlight, but he selflessly puts his body on the line to ensure that players like SBB, Pine, Libero, Jjonak and even Meko at times, all shine bright.
Agree... Once again the DPS shine and the tanks get tossed aside like they don't do shit. Personally I think tank and healer are the most difficult roles to play. They may not be super technical but the decision making is more high IQ in working as a team. Its a team game after all.
brilliant video, akshon esports again and again with the huge plays (csgo reference), thanks so much for what you guys have been doing for the community since apex season 1.
Honestly one of the most well crafted video's I've watched in a while, good job. I'm not very good at Overwatch so watching this analysis made it really easy to understand for me.
Core war Yah i know it contenders its one pause per map. This is to check in causes of players not feeling well or a mouse not working or something like that.
There have been a few comments on the pronunciation of EQO so we just wanted to clarify that we went with how his teammates choose to call him as seen in this Fusion video when Snillo introduces the player th-cam.com/video/BJbUqU5ecR0/w-d-xo.html
The first time i've seen videos going this in-depth at certain games or plays, it was on the Blitz esport channel. You guys don't fall behind a bit in terms of analysis but i think theres still more potential on visualizing certain situations in the game. I really enjoyed watching and am glad you kept your quality so theres no room for comments like "you guys are just a cheap blitz copy". Keep up the work and don't ever stop your videos covering the general ongoings, roster changes and similar topics about the scene o/
NY Excelsior are the only Team out of the 3 original Juggernauts that are still standing strong and holding their Juggernaut title. Seoul and London are collapsing and the Middle teams are taking the reins. I'd say that the new 3 Juggernaut rankings are: 1. NYXL 2. Boston Uprising 3. LA Valiant/Philly Fusion. I love the Glads, but I think they need to be just a bit more consistent to be considered for a Juggernaut position.
6 years later, still watching vids like that to remember when Overwatch was a great Team game not a shtss game where 5 "peoples" run on the objectif with intention of 1v5-ing....
not even talking about new "gamemodes", this rlly need to rewind....or at least stop it, let the game die, grampa did well when he was younger he can rest in peace now...
Mom: son can you help me with this? Me: Mom. Im in a OW game rn. Mom: just pause it for a bit. Come here now. Me: You can't pause an online match. Mom: WHAT YOU MEAN. I saw people pause game all the time in OWL. Now pause it and come here.
@@josuebarboza9809 oh really ? Are u sure about that ? Who do u think Is better ? Jjonak ? What a joke And also Tell me who Is the best player in League ? U silver hardstuck
killroy870 big brain..? Cmon.. he's mechanically sick yeah, but the one opening that space with the real 'brain' is Mano. Tanks go unnoticed just because they aren't as flashy, but they are essential in enabling the other roles.
can someone help me like i legit don't understand how the pause thing works in OWL. When can you request it and how? how long can it last? why can you do it...
NYXL have guts to do these plays being 0-2.... And it is admirable how Pine manages to deal with such pressure.
Pine carried everyone
That's why he's bigboss pine
Isnt this why he quit though?
@@kirin8735 no
@@kirin8735 Yea pretty much. Sure he didn’t crack under the pressure in game, but the pressure of competing and being on a very strict schedule took a huge toll on his mental health
Pine is very bad at missing
Daniel Matthews imagine that at opposite day
Boog E Feeva go back to school
Boog E Feeva your that clueless dumbass
Boog E Feeva my first statement was a joke kid
@@splashiernutt7832 He's very good and hitting
Really love these in-depth analysis of the games. We don't normally get to see as much detail during streams so this fills that void perfectly
Yes there is a lot of depth in the detail other than the fact that he couldn’t pronounce EQO correctly
7:45 Hear that ranked players? You can’t go on flanks to the enemies spawn saying the pros did it. You need support. Also you’re not Pine
Alpha Crash X I do it all the time you just need to think about spawns and make sure you're going after something weaker like a mercy or zen
Naw, i am Fine with a korean accent
Alpha Crash X You can do it, you just need to either do it at the right times (when the enemy push failed and you want to get an early pick for the next fight) or when you have the support while pushing.
Alpha Crash X I may not be a as good as pine or any other pro BUT I’m also not playing against any other pros. So the skill ratio would still allow me to play in the same positioning
You can do it without support with high mobility heroes, just not with mccree
3:27
“bashion behind an orisha shield”
Yea,what?
@@vagelismel what's confusing you?
I don’t get it
She’s talking about the pronunciation Orisa orisha bastion bashion
FlamSelk after one month I finally understand now 😂😂😂
"Goodbye dps"
Just like this season
Still After 2-2-2 pine isnt and nyxl is just loosing
Spartakus 314 Pine Was The carry boi
Spartakus 314 Pine Was The carry boi
still relevant
I can't belvied Pine is coming back to the league
is he ?
@@chanjimmy2584 Yeah. He’s on the Dallas Fuel now
@@soullex5649 you not trolling or you not from 2018 right ? cos I smell some bullshit here
@@chanjimmy2584 Both the Dallas Fuel and the Overwatch League posted a video of Pine being introduced into their team from about two weeks ago
@@soullex5649 i see
PINE just has the best mechanical skills in the game, thats it.
The rest of team is playing very strategically.
NYXL are just too OP
Alex S nyxl has a ridiculous lineup doesn't even seem fair
Boston Blue has an amazng lineup but what they are doing is a mystery
Carpe played better than pine but mano hard carried that game
for me, the big advantage of NYXL comes from jjonak, he's basically a dps zenyatta, while providing utility and healing and zen hard counters a lot of ults.
"PINE just has the best mechanical skills in the game, thats it."
Flicking, sure. Dafran has him beat (and everyone else in the game) in tracking.
Actually, the answer is Mano.
The casual viewer will be thinking that Pine carried the team hard.
But if you look closely, you'll see that it was in fact Mano who enabled Pine to do his job, and allowed the supports to pocket him when needed because Mano himself simply wasn't taking unnecessary damage, WHILE creating space.
Mano is, in my honest opinion, the best 9/10 player in the world at his role.
What does that mean? It mean's that his Reinhardt/Winston/Orisa are ALL at an equal level and no role is weaker than the other.
He is the LEAST flashy main tank in the league....but he is undoubtedly the most reliable when push comes to shove.
I'd say he is the 'enabler' tank who puts his team on his shoulders and lifts them up so that they can perform to greatness.
I've actually noticed that because NYXL is a lock for the season playoffs, they're actually using Janus for the first two maps against weaker teams to get him up to speed with the rest of the team. They're nowhere near as good and actually lose quite a bit. But after halftime, Mano will come back in, create space, and simply be a better main tank, and that's when the turnarounds happen. With Mano in the lineup, the NYXL are very much the best team in the league.
Going back and analyzing the past few games, I even believe that they would've won the Boston game had they had Mano in the entire time. I think they didn't realize that Boston was THAT good and starting off 0-2 in the map differential with Janus in was a huge handicap for them. Mano came in the second half and they had a chance to reverse sweep, but Boston is actually good enough to win the remaining 1 out of 3. If he was in the entire time, I think NYXL rough out a win with 5 actual chances.
Pine is overrated
@DKC48 you are Dead On. Mano is the tank that NYXL fall back on when their backs are to the wall.
Yet you compare him to Janus, and you see that Janus is the aggressive fragger tank.
Mano will almost NEVER shine in the spotlight, but he selflessly puts his body on the line to ensure that players like SBB, Pine, Libero, Jjonak and even Meko at times, all shine bright.
@Hades Kray, I don't think he is overrated. However he is Risky as all hell
Agree... Once again the DPS shine and the tanks get tossed aside like they don't do shit. Personally I think tank and healer are the most difficult roles to play. They may not be super technical but the decision making is more high IQ in working as a team. Its a team game after all.
brilliant video, akshon esports again and again with the huge plays (csgo reference), thanks so much for what you guys have been doing for the community since apex season 1.
Pine: *exists*
Fusion: *sweats*
Do you think NYXL will be the first Overwatch League team to win two Stage titles back-to-back?
Akshon Esports definitely. Even though they lost to Boston they are good at learning and adapting outside and inside games.
Almost certainly. They will probably beat Boston in the playoff match. And there’s no one else that can really contest
Akshon Esports they'll win the league lmao
Nah Boston will win they are on fire they are going to be the first team to go 10-0 and sweep the playoffs
Nichodic You're craaaazy
Love these kinds of videos, really professional and insightful!
Well made video. I like the format
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it :D
Akshon Esports highly agree. Great, useful commentary and gameplay showing.
Just casually back here cuz i miss seeing Big Boss plays on OWL.
Eyy and I thought I'm the only one missing pine
Yeah, about that
The real...
The One...
*THE BOSS*
That's right agreed Nata
Big Boss Pine is on the scene!
Honestly one of the most well crafted video's I've watched in a while, good job. I'm not very good at Overwatch so watching this analysis made it really easy to understand for me.
Really good analysis. Really explains the match so much better than the OWL desk. Gr8 1!
There is definitely more room on TH-cam for analysis than just Blitz more content for us the better right?
This is just a silly speculation. But whenever a team calls a pause against fusion. Fusion literally just falls apart afterwards.
What is a pause? Like how do u pause during mid game
h i it's in custom games. The creator of the game press Maj+shift+= and the game is paused
They have this in pro games?
Core war Yah i know it contenders its one pause per map. This is to check in causes of players not feeling well or a mouse not working or something like that.
You don't get a pause in comp games though.
This is produced so well
What im really impressed by is how high sens pine plays on while being one of the best hitscans
I hate seeing so many channels like this being so under rated
Mano and pine carried Mano is INSANE
I hate when they play Janus over Mano. I always get paranoid they'll lose. xD
This channel is way too impressive, can’t believe you don’t have more subs!
as a Fusion fan .... this video hurts but also educational
NICE
Great video Akshon Esports, Pine was amazing this game and your analysis really explains how he made it happen. Keep up the good work 👍
haven't played overwatch since Pine retired I miss this
Same bruh, when the owl launched during December of 2017 the game was good. That year was overwatch’s peak.
How nyxl used pine to beat Philly: played pine
Woah, what an impressive analysis! You're so eloquent and thorough, I love it.
1:25 "They chose to dive Jjonak on the high ground."
Philly should know better than to dive Jjonak...
6:55 who was in comp queue and thought it found a game
Pedro Hauari XD
This is very good work!
There have been a few comments on the pronunciation of EQO so we just wanted to clarify that we went with how his teammates choose to call him as seen in this Fusion video when Snillo introduces the player th-cam.com/video/BJbUqU5ecR0/w-d-xo.html
Why would the overwatch league still continue to pronounce it “E Q O” if it wasn’t correct. This was covered back in stage 1.
Akshon Esports that's because of his accent dude
Chad Adams I remember the casters saying that they asked him how he wanted it pronounced and that he wanted it per letter.
I think the fusion pronounce it "EQO" (eco) because its easier to say in a team fight."
Akshon Esports I
Wow I love the in-depth analysis.
Boi this channel is underrated af
Loved the Editing.
The first time i've seen videos going this in-depth at certain games or plays, it was on the Blitz esport channel.
You guys don't fall behind a bit in terms of analysis but i think theres still more potential on visualizing certain situations in the game.
I really enjoyed watching and am glad you kept your quality so theres no room for comments like "you guys are just a cheap blitz copy".
Keep up the work and don't ever stop your videos covering the general ongoings, roster changes and similar topics about the scene o/
Pine is like their Batman
When they're done fucking around
They call in Pine
If I had 1 day left to live I would wish to play a game of OWL with pine
will never see this legend on stage again rip
People like Pine makes me give up on competitive games. God he is a monster and a fun killer
I love this kind of videos, thanks!
Exactly. Pine did amazing because of the support from Anamo and the follow ups from SBB while the tanks made sure to peel. Team game no matter what.
Love the healing music in the background
Pine is the equivliant (not sure i spelt that right) to Xantares from Spacesoldiers in CS. He is given the rescources by the team so he can carry
xd equivalent
-Pine has joined the server
-Player has left the match
-Player has left the match
-Player has left the match
-Player has left the match
NY Excelsior are the only Team out of the 3 original Juggernauts that are still standing strong and holding their Juggernaut title. Seoul and London are collapsing and the Middle teams are taking the reins. I'd say that the new 3 Juggernaut rankings are: 1. NYXL 2. Boston Uprising 3. LA Valiant/Philly Fusion.
I love the Glads, but I think they need to be just a bit more consistent to be considered for a Juggernaut position.
Feels bad for pine his high five got rejected
7:58
Rip pine 😢
Trust Strafe. What happened
Yanos nobody accepted his high five and ignored him
Who would’ve thought Philly would take NY’s spot in the grand finale...
Big boss Pine has some great skills thats why come back to NYXL Pine we miss you
a historic series
Nice analysis, actually good
Thanks! We've got more stuff like this on the way 👍
you did this better than any youtuber and you did it before reaching the 10:01 mark....ggs dude
why did they pause?
Saebeolbye pee break
thee title should really be: How the NYXL used Big Boss Pine to beat everybody
Great Video !
Incredible dissection
Ark was doing good there to enable the glass canon play style from Pine
6 years later, still watching vids like that to remember when Overwatch was a great Team game not a shtss game where 5 "peoples" run on the objectif with intention of 1v5-ing....
not even talking about new "gamemodes", this rlly need to rewind....or at least stop it, let the game die, grampa did well when he was younger he can rest in peace now...
Bringing 6 v 6 back would be a start
Fusion:sees pine
Sweeting intensifies
I miss the old NY team, such classic plays and skill
he's back!
Pine: *exists*
Philly: *sweating heavily*
WELCOME BACK PINE!!!
Man… 2018 was just a better time cause my team was actually good…
How come he didn’t play for the SK team during World Cup 2019?
Sanamana _ Cuz he usually doesn’t want to play overwatch professionally
so good videos bro
Mom: son can you help me with this?
Me: Mom. Im in a OW game rn.
Mom: just pause it for a bit. Come here now.
Me: You can't pause an online match.
Mom: WHAT YOU MEAN. I saw people pause game all the time in OWL. Now pause it and come here.
Epic match wish I had watched it live
very good explanation
Great vid guys. Keep it up!
Lets be honest pine is probably the best ow player
Ruby Friday no it’s probably carpe, mano or jonak
@@hurana795 He Is
JJONAK
He's not even the best on his team lul
@@josuebarboza9809 oh really ? Are u sure about that ? Who do u think Is better ? Jjonak ? What a joke And also Tell me who Is the best player in League ? U silver hardstuck
Best OWL content by far!
“ Running pirate ship behind an Orshia’s Shhhsssield “
NYXL carries eachother. We of course always see the standout plays but deeper look into how NYXL plays you know they are a singular entity.
nice... bring it more
Pine the kind of person to eat something then go on a 80 kill streak
What I'm hearing is that Pine and Jjonak need a nerf, too unbalanced and op
After bringing in Pine
Me: welp so much for the 2-0
Thinking about playing against Pine gives me nightmares
great video, great editing.
5:44 how and why would you request a pass in pro play?
Sbb and pine is like the best duo
Anyone knows what music is playing at 6:10
From the dragon short: th-cam.com/video/p56XUPetIAQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZPXWga8XaUNC3MEA 4:55 into that
And also Mano and Meko do great job together
and pine is just..oooof too good
i really like your videos
I never knew pros fell for the junk rat spawn trap
Why am I having a hard time finding the game play for this match ?
2:52 you have no idea what glass cannon means lmaoo.
Now all we need is for jjonak to play orisa
3:24 "running bachstiob behind oricha shield"
His big brain plays mesh so well with the team. Surely a force to reckoned with!
killroy870 big brain..? Cmon.. he's mechanically sick yeah, but the one opening that space with the real 'brain' is Mano. Tanks go unnoticed just because they aren't as flashy, but they are essential in enabling the other roles.
Have you seen his hand-to-eye coordination? Don't downplay the truth.
can someone help me like i legit don't understand how the pause thing works in OWL. When can you request it and how? how long can it last? why can you do it...
Tristboy 1 pause per match, up to 5 mins to resolve any problems technically
yall still responding to comments here within a day? ok be real here is bumper the goat of rein?
When you get the sporty kid on your team
YOU DO NOT DIVE JONAK. YOU ARE CAUGHT BY JONAK
Great video, though I'm super triggered by the way you keep saying EQO's name. It's "E.Q.O.", not "E-co" lol. Much love, keep up the great work
Pine strikes fear into everyone even pros