Thanks for watching everyone! I hope you enjoyed the video, Nürnberg did not have an incredibly exciting career but it certainly was long lasting. What do you all think about her career and her transfer to the Soviet Union? I wish I could tell you more about her time in the Soviet Navy but sources are extremely sparce (like almost all Soviet ships) so if anyone has any good sources let me know! Edit: Upon further research, there were no 105 mm guns added on the ship, just additional 88mm guns.
Great job on the video man, but in regard to sources on her time in the Russian Navy. well, there is none. the Russians refused too actually release any of the information that would tell what she did. Something I would like to point out is that she wasn't originally put as a Training cruiser when she was taken over by the Russians. The Soviet Navy examined the ship in great detail after she arrived in Libau. The cruiser was then renamed Admiral Makarov and assigned to the 8th Fleet, based in Tallinn. In late 1948, she became the flagship of the 8th Fleet, under the command of Vice Admiral F. V. Zozulya. In the early 1950s, three new Chapayev-class cruisers entered service, which prompted the Soviet Navy to withdraw Admiral Makarov from front line duties. She returned to her old job as a training cruiser, this time based in Kronstadt in mid-1954. During this period, most of her light anti-aircraft armament was removed, and new radars were installed. Her ultimate fate was, and still is unclear; she appears to have been placed out of service by May 1959, and was scrapped some time thereafter, reportedly by mid-1960. The only people who know what the Nurnberg did during her time with the Soviets was the Soviets Themselves. I ran into this same issue when I made my video on the History of the Leipzig-class cruiser. Another thing I would like to point out that you had missed was that Nurnberg actually fired her aft Main Battery's at the HMS Salmon after she was torpedoed. still a great video, and I can wait for the next.
this is not on topic, but it appears that there are predatory "Digital Rights Management" organizations that are launching copyright strikes on channels, if at all possible, for their theme music.
I´m an old ship lover and I have a big collection of documents, pics etc. regarding the German navy and I can share your wishes. But there are no public documents about her time in the Soviet Navy and I have only 4 or 5 photos shot during that period of time. The Nürnberg is one of my fav light cruiser, please don´t ask me why. And of course I would like to read something about the experiences with that ship after WW2. The only thing that I came along was a statement by a German crew member who complained about the Soviet crew as they were overchallenged to take that ship over in Wilhelmshaven. The German crew must have had a hard time to explain everything to them.
Thanks for the fair assessment. The TH-camr Drachinifel made a devastating vid about the design of the German light cruisers but forgot to keep the Treaty of Versailles in mind. But that´s not all. It wasn´t only the harsh restrictions of that treaty, it was also the German Navy´s lack of practical experiences as they were not allowed to build new ships for some years. That´s why they took old WW1-designs for light cruisers, torpedo boats, minesweepers and battleships and made them the basis for their new constructions. As a matter of fact the Treaty of Versailles was not a treaty about peace and the consequences of the war. It was an attempt to deindustrialise and demilitarise Germany especially by France and the UK.
@@michaelpielorz9283 I guess it´s more than just a problem, it´s like a phobia and sometimes it´s even funny, for example when he wanted to redesign Bismarck. I mean, what a weird idea.
The Austro-Hungarian navy and its ships had an even harder time with him as he total misunderstood or ignored the role, limitations and context that framed its existence and even its quite impressive successes turing ww1. In some cases his sorces seem to have been british war-time propaganda instead of real research. But i have to givd him that his episodes about the battle of lissa and the ancona raid where a lot fairer and the research on these might revised his preset opinions a bit
You say at 7:20 that the Nürnberg received 105mm guns. I would like to know when they have been added and even if, because i couldn't find any information that it really had them. Btw very great informative Video!!
Oh boy, I might have misspoken there. Upon looking again, I think on Karlsruhe (out of all the light cruisers), received 105mm guns. Nürberg did receive additional 88mm guns throughout her career in various refits. Sorry about any confusion!
a slightly odd ship design, particularly the offset aft turret placement on the previous Konigsbergs. and far too flimsily built to be real sea-going warships.
My Dad (tuning 100 in July) was on the Nürnberg in Koenigsberg (now Kalinigrad) in 1945 before going back to Copenhagen. I can find other reports about what he said about defending the ship to raiders in Copenhagen, but I so far I have not found any reference to the ship being in Koenigsberg/Kalinigrad Are there any? Are there other witnesses left?
@@ImportantNavalHistory thanks for replying, I didn't find anything either. As my Dad told me that many years ago I don't remember all the details, but the ship that was in the same place after the Nürnberg left was bombed or torpedoed the next night and sank. I do not remember whether he said they were on their way to Copenhagen then already or whether she was just moored in a different place.
Thanks for watching everyone! I hope you enjoyed the video, Nürnberg did not have an incredibly exciting career but it certainly was long lasting. What do you all think about her career and her transfer to the Soviet Union? I wish I could tell you more about her time in the Soviet Navy but sources are extremely sparce (like almost all Soviet ships) so if anyone has any good sources let me know!
Edit: Upon further research, there were no 105 mm guns added on the ship, just additional 88mm guns.
Great job on the video man, but in regard to sources on her time in the Russian Navy. well, there is none. the Russians refused too actually release any of the information that would tell what she did. Something I would like to point out is that she wasn't originally put as a Training cruiser when she was taken over by the Russians. The Soviet Navy examined the ship in great detail after she arrived in Libau. The cruiser was then renamed Admiral Makarov and assigned to the 8th Fleet, based in Tallinn. In late 1948, she became the flagship of the 8th Fleet, under the command of Vice Admiral F. V. Zozulya. In the early 1950s, three new Chapayev-class cruisers entered service, which prompted the Soviet Navy to withdraw Admiral Makarov from front line duties. She returned to her old job as a training cruiser, this time based in Kronstadt in mid-1954. During this period, most of her light anti-aircraft armament was removed, and new radars were installed. Her ultimate fate was, and still is unclear; she appears to have been placed out of service by May 1959, and was scrapped some time thereafter, reportedly by mid-1960. The only people who know what the Nurnberg did during her time with the Soviets was the Soviets Themselves. I ran into this same issue when I made my video on the History of the Leipzig-class cruiser. Another thing I would like to point out that you had missed was that Nurnberg actually fired her aft Main Battery's at the HMS Salmon after she was torpedoed. still a great video, and I can wait for the next.
this is not on topic, but it appears that there are predatory "Digital Rights Management"
organizations that are launching copyright strikes on channels, if at all possible, for their theme music.
I’ve seen that. I shouldn’t have any issues since I have the rights purchased directly from Adobe.
I´m an old ship lover and I have a big collection of documents, pics etc. regarding the German navy and I can share your wishes. But there are no public documents about her time in the Soviet Navy and I have only 4 or 5 photos shot during that period of time.
The Nürnberg is one of my fav light cruiser, please don´t ask me why. And of course I would like to read something about the experiences with that ship after WW2. The only thing that I came along was a statement by a German crew member who complained about the Soviet crew as they were overchallenged to take that ship over in Wilhelmshaven. The German crew must have had a hard time to explain everything to them.
You almost equal Drachnofel. I say almost. Try an English accent.
Thanks for the fair assessment. The TH-camr Drachinifel made a devastating vid about the design of the German light cruisers but forgot to keep the Treaty of Versailles in mind. But that´s not all. It wasn´t only the harsh restrictions of that treaty, it was also the German Navy´s lack of practical experiences as they were not allowed to build new ships for some years. That´s why they took old WW1-designs for light cruisers, torpedo boats, minesweepers and battleships and made them the basis for their new constructions.
As a matter of fact the Treaty of Versailles was not a treaty about peace and the consequences of the war. It was an attempt to deindustrialise and demilitarise Germany especially by France and the UK.
Young Drachinifel has a real Problem with german ships in general.please remember : we do not mention a"Bismarck" on his channel (:-)
@@michaelpielorz9283 I guess it´s more than just a problem, it´s like a phobia and sometimes it´s even funny, for example when he wanted to redesign Bismarck. I mean, what a weird idea.
The Austro-Hungarian navy and its ships had an even harder time with him as he total misunderstood or ignored the role, limitations and context that framed its existence and even its quite impressive successes turing ww1.
In some cases his sorces seem to have been british war-time propaganda instead of real research.
But i have to givd him that his episodes about the battle of lissa and the ancona raid where a lot fairer and the research on these might revised his preset opinions a bit
@@tobiasfreitag2182 OK - one in a million. - When I saw his first vids I thought: interesting. But it got worse from vid to vid.
Another good episode, thanks for posting!
He's becoming a little bit of a special channel I think. 👍
Thanks for another informative video
Thank you another interesting video
if your story was more in chronological order, i feel you may be best on net. you have good pacing and excellent articulative cadences.
I remember a past Christmas, where Santa thought everyone should have a Admiral Makarov in port.
Great video
You say at 7:20 that the Nürnberg received 105mm guns. I would like to know when they have been added and even if, because i couldn't find any information that it really had them. Btw very great informative Video!!
Oh boy, I might have misspoken there. Upon looking again, I think on Karlsruhe (out of all the light cruisers), received 105mm guns. Nürberg did receive additional 88mm guns throughout her career in various refits. Sorry about any confusion!
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Damn I missed the live stream. ☘️
a slightly odd ship design, particularly the offset aft turret placement on the previous Konigsbergs.
and far too flimsily built to be real sea-going warships.
My Dad (tuning 100 in July) was on the Nürnberg in Koenigsberg (now Kalinigrad) in 1945 before going back to Copenhagen. I can find other reports about what he said about defending the ship to raiders in Copenhagen, but I so far I have not found any reference to the ship being in Koenigsberg/Kalinigrad Are there any? Are there other witnesses left?
I can only go off secondary sources as that’s what I have access to. With that being said, I can’t find anything to say she was in Königsberg.
@@ImportantNavalHistory thanks for replying, I didn't find anything either. As my Dad told me that many years ago I don't remember all the details, but the ship that was in the same place after the Nürnberg left was bombed or torpedoed the next night and sank. I do not remember whether he said they were on their way to Copenhagen then already or whether she was just moored in a different place.
And I'm sure you have done a lot more research on this than me. I was just trying to find some details for a collection of stories for his birthday.
Attractive class.
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