I think Pit Girl is Mari. Mostly because of Misty's reaction to her death. She had a big smile as if she was pleased. Mostly because Mari is a constant bully of Misty and I think Mari is the one who was prank calling Misty in the beginning of the season saying ugly and hateful things to her.
well we know whos alive we have, unaccounted for: mari, gen, melissa, britt (a new s3 character) and akilah (and crystal to some extent but thats delving into another theory) gen is red haired and britt and akilah are black that leaves mari and melissa. the season 3 trailer introduces us to a new adult tho, played by hilary swank. her role is tba but her role even existing means that indeed, 8 people have survived meaning that for sure, britt, akilah, gen, coach ben and either mari or melissa, dies before they get rescued
I think that by the end of their time in the wilderness they will have gone so crazy that they won't be able to talk. Notice how they don't talk in the Pit Girl scenes. Lottie, of course, couldn't talk when she got back.
@aaronlegg911 i think yall are right but also i think they mainly just don't talk during the hunt. part of the ritual. it complicates things. it reminds them they are human in a time where they need to be animalistic. it makes things harder when they are discussing plus it could just be a sign of respect
@@nah4073 you’re right, the only girl there that’s played by the actor is Misty. The others aren’t played by the same people, they mentioned this during an interview that even the actors they don’t know was supposed to be who.
id like season 4 to be them acclimating back to society... I don't think we're gonna see next winter til season 4... season 3 is gonna be spring to autumn, so there's plenty of time to get there
@@totalSLACK isn’t it confirmed now that season 3’s flashbacks will be less on them during spring and autumn and more so them going back into society after being rescued?
Thanks for another fantastic video! A couple interesting theories going around are A) that someone gets left behind in the wilderness and B) the other survivor is Coach Ben.
How would coach Ben survive when he is the most malnourished. He didn't cannibalize any of the teens as far as we know. And burnt down the cabin how could he have survived with one leg and no help??
@@marcyc1695 I'm willing to bet that if anyone stays in the wilderness, it'll be Coach Ben. He is either killed, cannibalized or left behind on purpose by the girls.
@@marcyc1695I mean not everything in the show is riddled with logic. Javi survived out there for way longer I ever thought possible so could happen, but not likely. I personally think someone being left behind is more likely but also maybe there is only 7 survivors and the 8th person died after the pit scene.
Javi’s friend is likely that girl, my guess is that she’s the daughter of the man that was there before them. There was a pink rocking chair in the cabin. She probably causes trouble for them (sets the cabin on fire, etc after she sees what that did to Javi) and they track her down eventually and do that to her.
@@PaulDro it’s a red herring, the writers like to add these. The girls will think it’s him too. But he had no desire to hurt them. My guess is they’ll track him down and then regret what they do later.
I have a feeling Lottie is the "Antler Queen" , and Natalie is the Leader since they showed that in season 2. What I mean by Lottie being the Antler Queen is that the Antler Queen is a fanmade term that the writers liked, it was originally supposed to be called "The Oracle" I am just recalling so I don't know if this is a fact, but I remember reading something like that. Anyways we saw Lottie in Doomcoming create, and wear the Antlers, and in the adult timeline Lottie is still clinging to the Wilderness ways with Antlers out her cabin. I think that the Antler Queen outfit is just some sort of representative of the Wilderness its Lottie's outfit, and the Leader Natalie will wear something else. Or I can be completely wrong , but I personally just want Lottie to be the one wearing the Antler Queen outfit.
to me it looks like lottie is the one sitting to (our) left of the queen/oracle/whatever so i think that natalie is the leader, she’s been leading them the whole time tbh if you watch back in season 1 there’s lots of references including tai and shauna saying they wouldn’t have been alive or made it out if it wasn’t for her…so i think she will continue to lead them, but maybe lottie is the spiritual leader kind of the right hand man of natalie because she stepped aside trying to lead
I interpret all the hints to Lottie being the antler queen as a red herring, there's a great video called something close to "How Yellowjackets does foreshadowing right" that talks about how Nat being the antler queen was set up a lot, just more subtly. For instance in the pilot there are several times where the camera cuts to the Antler queen then to Nat or vise versa. There a lot more thats just an example. I recommend a watch!
@@brynniefresh9746 I remember reading somewhere they used body doubles for those scenes. I still like 90% agree with you but it's not for sure. One of the reasons I love this show.
I know it's been a while since this was posted, but I finally watched it and wanted to share my thoughts. So, when it comes to a lot of occult type things in media, there is a certain amount of time that has passed since the last supernatural event took place. From the plane crash in 1996 until the start of the series in 2021, 25 years has passed. As we see in season two, Lottie believes that they all brought the god back with them or that it touched part of them and corrupted them, and she cites the various attitudes that they have adapted throughout the series (excluding Van since we haven't seen anything off about her except for her illness). During the course of the group's time in the wilderness, we see them slowly give into their 'wilder' selves. In a mirror of that, we're seeing it reoccur in the present: a reclaiming of their wild selves that have been 'repressed'. This is further shown in the last episode of season two when everyone but Shauna engages in the thrill of the ritual sacrifice and in setting it up. Now, in regards to the 'rewards' that everyone gets from the sacrifice that was displayed throughout the flashbacks, we see a similar trend begin in the future. Because of Travis's death in S1, we see Shauna meet someone exciting and new, Misty reconnects with Natalie and later gets introduced to Walter who she feels truly understands her, Taissa wins the election, Natalie gets closure and peace after Travis's death, Lottie gets to (briefly) help her friends seek their own inner peace, and Van gets to reconnect with the group after (assumedly) having little to no contact with anyone but her customers since we don't see her inform anyone of her departure. As for Natalie's death in S2, so far, Shauna is no longer a suspect of Adam's murder and she gets closer to her family, Misty will likely grow closer to Walter after he proved that he didn't care about her killing people and to cope with accidentally killing Natalie, and (likely) Lottie will start to grow closer to the Wilderness again. We'll see what Van and Taissa get as a reward, but it will likely do with Van's illness and Taissa's family (such as her wife's recovery). Because of the Pit Girl's death and the following rescue, I believe that her death was proof of everyone being fully immersed in the Wilderness, so the god didn't need their worship or decline anymore. It got what it needed. Now, after 25 years, it needs to 'feed' again and start the cycle of sacrifice and reward all over again. This was more of a rant than anything structured, but I can't wait to see what season three brings us and how the Wilderness will reward everyone and who will be sacrificed next. Thank you so much for all of your theory and essay videos on Yellowjackets. I enjoy them a lot, and I'll stay tuned for your thoughts on S3. :)
This is a very well thought out & explained theory. I’ve been on several different sites and I really enjoyed your perspective on things. Thanks for taking the time to type that out!
Imo the scene where adult Charlotte is talking to her therapist about : the god of that place the power of that place : we did terrible things in it's name. So in essence pit girl is a random person they kidnapped or wondered where they were at. What pit girl is wearing backs this up
This is one of my favorite theories too, there are a couple mentions of the plane going far off track before the crash. If the wilderness can draw them in, could it do the same with hikers or search and rescue?
Could be, but I don't think it makes sense that it's a random person considering the events and what we know so far. I don't think that line from Lottie implies that at all. Like they did terrible things either way.
In the s2 episode 1 plane boarding rescue scene it shows 8 individuals. None of them is Travis. So that means that there are at a minimum 9 survivors. That 8 survived theory is incorrect. Mari and Melissa look like they are among the survivors in that scene. .
@@FeyFire I made a post on red, it on the YJ sub specifically on this topic. YT doesn't allow links but if you visit the site and do a search for "More than 8" the post should come up. There are pictures of all the survivors in that boarding scene and close ups on possible Mari and Melissa. edit: Actually just google "More than 8 Yellowjackets" and the post should come up in google search.
@@FeyFire My first reply got removed/hidden for whatever reason. Plenty of people have slowed down that scene, screen shot and seen two people that are not among the 7 survivors we have seen as adults. One of them looking a lot like Mari and the other could only be Melissa or a yet to be introduced JV girl.
@@thisone.or possibly some hikers or some shit also get lost in the wilderness and some of the rescued people aren’t even their friends and that’s why they’ve never mentioned them before? like people have thought maybe they end up killing other people who wandered by their hunting grounds but maybe some people become their allies?
If there's another survivor what happened to that person in the future???? I'm really curios about that but I'd enjoy so much if one those side character (Mari/Akilah) survive as well and we only find out later in the series
it doesn’t really make sense considering they have gone over who lived specifically, so if someone else survived i think they are dead between the rescue and current timeline or if it’s like maybe Ben or something if he actually ended up never seeing them again and they thought he or whoever just died…like the girls have to assume that person is dead already and that’s why they didn’t mention them before
There is so much content coming out now Post strike that I hope they get this third season out in time... Definitely before the end of the year.. Especially with the mess Paramount studios is currently in.
@ I watched the pilot again and didn't notice this clip, but I reckon so-called pit girl is Callie (who has blue eyes). I think it's a flash forward. Maybe they go on the run. I love Yellowjackets and would covet a role in it! It's so twisty and mysterious and gross all at once. It reminds me of 'The Lottery' by Shirley Jackson. I've another theory about coach and the symbol.
I don’t think they killed Pit Girl for survival. They killed her for sport, since it seems the group will split in two…and maybe they hunt each other for fun?
They hunted her because she was causing problems for them. It’s going to be the daughter of the guy who was there before. Javi said he had a friend that told him not to go back, and there’s a pink rocking chair at the cabin.
@@Willowsheep Yes, it could be that, although those scenes are usually shot in a different way. I went back and rewatched that, and what I noticed also is that the "pit girl scene" and the scene of them eating the human flesh are not actually as connected as I thought before. It implies they are eating pit girl, but it's not actually fully confirmed, and the girl they are bleeding out doesn't even seem to have the holes pit girl would have. So, at the end of the day, it could be completely different moments, too (Misty's face reveal and the pit girl part). I still am not a crazy fan of this theory that it happens in the adult timeline, but it seems much more plausible when rewatching the first episodes.
The worst theory: it’s Callie. Rather than the pit girl scene taking place in the past, we’re seeing a future where all the women, including Callie, return to the wilderness.
@@ZiggyonMarsI mean we saw a adult Nat briefly “become” young Nat during the scene with lottie and Nat at lotties “cult” maybe it’s the same sort of thing but this time with misty?
If they get rescued very soon after sacrificing pit girl that would be a big tie in with lord of the flies, how they killed when help was arriving and realised just how avoidable it was
I think Pit Girl is Mari. Mostly because of Misty's reaction to her death. She had a big smile as if she was pleased. Mostly because Mari is a constant bully of Misty and I think Mari is the one who was prank calling Misty in the beginning of the season saying ugly and hateful things to her.
I do also like the theory that it's Mari but I don't think Misty's smile has to do with that. I think she has always enjoyed the deprivation.
Pit girl also looks like Mari from what we can see
well we know whos alive
we have, unaccounted for:
mari, gen, melissa, britt (a new s3 character) and akilah (and crystal to some extent but thats delving into another theory)
gen is red haired and britt and akilah are black
that leaves mari and melissa.
the season 3 trailer introduces us to a new adult tho, played by hilary swank. her role is tba but her role even existing means that indeed, 8 people have survived
meaning that for sure, britt, akilah, gen, coach ben and either mari or melissa, dies before they get rescued
altho, the show plans to go for 5 seasons, so unless they plan to introduce us to anymore adults, then this is what we have
I remain convinced that somehow, some way, Pit Girl is Lottie and Mari has stolen her identity upon being rescued.
I think that by the end of their time in the wilderness they will have gone so crazy that they won't be able to talk. Notice how they don't talk in the Pit Girl scenes. Lottie, of course, couldn't talk when she got back.
@aaronlegg911 i think yall are right but also i think they mainly just don't talk during the hunt. part of the ritual. it complicates things. it reminds them they are human in a time where they need to be animalistic. it makes things harder when they are discussing plus it could just be a sign of respect
@@tsivilsඞYeah, I also think, from a show runner perspective, they don't talk in that scene bcs it would give away who is who.
@@nah4073 you’re right, the only girl there that’s played by the actor is Misty. The others aren’t played by the same people, they mentioned this during an interview that even the actors they don’t know was supposed to be who.
I Hope we get more scenes of what happened after they were rescued
I think that'll be likely the last one
Me too! I enjoyed seeing what happened to Lottie, but i also wonder about Mitsy+Nat
id like season 4 to be them acclimating back to society... I don't think we're gonna see next winter til season 4... season 3 is gonna be spring to autumn, so there's plenty of time to get there
@@totalSLACK isn’t it confirmed now that season 3’s flashbacks will be less on them during spring and autumn and more so them going back into society after being rescued?
We are getting those. We are getting them back at home after they rescued.
Wow great theory! I never thought what if this happened the day before or the day of them being rescued! 🐝 🐝 🐝
Losing Juliette Lewis still breaks my heart. She is such a brilliant actress but it seems she had clear reasons for wanting to leave the show.
What happened exactly??
Thanks for another fantastic video!
A couple interesting theories going around are A) that someone gets left behind in the wilderness and B) the other survivor is Coach Ben.
How would coach Ben survive when he is the most malnourished. He didn't cannibalize any of the teens as far as we know. And burnt down the cabin how could he have survived with one leg and no help??
@@marcyc1695 I'm willing to bet that if anyone stays in the wilderness, it'll be Coach Ben. He is either killed, cannibalized or left behind on purpose by the girls.
Akeelah survived I believe
@@marcyc1695I mean not everything in the show is riddled with logic. Javi survived out there for way longer I ever thought possible so could happen, but not likely. I personally think someone being left behind is more likely but also maybe there is only 7 survivors and the 8th person died after the pit scene.
Ben is gonna get left behind
Javi’s friend is likely that girl, my guess is that she’s the daughter of the man that was there before them. There was a pink rocking chair in the cabin. She probably causes trouble for them (sets the cabin on fire, etc after she sees what that did to Javi) and they track her down eventually and do that to her.
Good theory but coach definitely set that fire
javi's friend is lottie
@@PaulDro it’s a red herring, the writers like to add these. The girls will think it’s him too. But he had no desire to hurt them. My guess is they’ll track him down and then regret what they do later.
why would pit girl be wearing jackies locket if she wasnt one of the yellowjackets?
@@gh02tdu2tIm pretty sure they put Jackie’s locket on whoever has been chosen for the hunt but I could be wrong
Your J shot observation is soo good. I seriously cannot wait 'til S3, or even the bonus episode.
I have a feeling Lottie is the "Antler Queen" , and Natalie is the Leader since they showed that in season 2. What I mean by Lottie being the Antler Queen is that the Antler Queen is a fanmade term that the writers liked, it was originally supposed to be called "The Oracle" I am just recalling so I don't know if this is a fact, but I remember reading something like that. Anyways we saw Lottie in Doomcoming create, and wear the Antlers, and in the adult timeline Lottie is still clinging to the Wilderness ways with Antlers out her cabin. I think that the Antler Queen outfit is just some sort of representative of the Wilderness its Lottie's outfit, and the Leader Natalie will wear something else. Or I can be completely wrong , but I personally just want Lottie to be the one wearing the Antler Queen outfit.
me too, although after everything she has been through and her choosing nat I don't think she would want to tho.
to me it looks like lottie is the one sitting to (our) left of the queen/oracle/whatever so i think that natalie is the leader, she’s been leading them the whole time tbh if you watch back in season 1 there’s lots of references including tai and shauna saying they wouldn’t have been alive or made it out if it wasn’t for her…so i think she will continue to lead them, but maybe lottie is the spiritual leader kind of the right hand man of natalie because she stepped aside trying to lead
I interpret all the hints to Lottie being the antler queen as a red herring, there's a great video called something close to "How Yellowjackets does foreshadowing right" that talks about how Nat being the antler queen was set up a lot, just more subtly. For instance in the pilot there are several times where the camera cuts to the Antler queen then to Nat or vise versa. There a lot more thats just an example. I recommend a watch!
@@brynniefresh9746 I remember reading somewhere they used body doubles for those scenes. I still like 90% agree with you but it's not for sure. One of the reasons I love this show.
Natalie is going to probably lead the side that goes against the hunters at some point. Since we know at a point there are two warring clans
I know it's been a while since this was posted, but I finally watched it and wanted to share my thoughts.
So, when it comes to a lot of occult type things in media, there is a certain amount of time that has passed since the last supernatural event took place. From the plane crash in 1996 until the start of the series in 2021, 25 years has passed. As we see in season two, Lottie believes that they all brought the god back with them or that it touched part of them and corrupted them, and she cites the various attitudes that they have adapted throughout the series (excluding Van since we haven't seen anything off about her except for her illness). During the course of the group's time in the wilderness, we see them slowly give into their 'wilder' selves. In a mirror of that, we're seeing it reoccur in the present: a reclaiming of their wild selves that have been 'repressed'. This is further shown in the last episode of season two when everyone but Shauna engages in the thrill of the ritual sacrifice and in setting it up.
Now, in regards to the 'rewards' that everyone gets from the sacrifice that was displayed throughout the flashbacks, we see a similar trend begin in the future. Because of Travis's death in S1, we see Shauna meet someone exciting and new, Misty reconnects with Natalie and later gets introduced to Walter who she feels truly understands her, Taissa wins the election, Natalie gets closure and peace after Travis's death, Lottie gets to (briefly) help her friends seek their own inner peace, and Van gets to reconnect with the group after (assumedly) having little to no contact with anyone but her customers since we don't see her inform anyone of her departure.
As for Natalie's death in S2, so far, Shauna is no longer a suspect of Adam's murder and she gets closer to her family, Misty will likely grow closer to Walter after he proved that he didn't care about her killing people and to cope with accidentally killing Natalie, and (likely) Lottie will start to grow closer to the Wilderness again. We'll see what Van and Taissa get as a reward, but it will likely do with Van's illness and Taissa's family (such as her wife's recovery).
Because of the Pit Girl's death and the following rescue, I believe that her death was proof of everyone being fully immersed in the Wilderness, so the god didn't need their worship or decline anymore. It got what it needed. Now, after 25 years, it needs to 'feed' again and start the cycle of sacrifice and reward all over again.
This was more of a rant than anything structured, but I can't wait to see what season three brings us and how the Wilderness will reward everyone and who will be sacrificed next. Thank you so much for all of your theory and essay videos on Yellowjackets. I enjoy them a lot, and I'll stay tuned for your thoughts on S3. :)
This is a very well thought out & explained theory. I’ve been on several different sites and I really enjoyed your perspective on things. Thanks for taking the time to type that out!
Imo the scene where adult Charlotte is talking to her therapist about : the god of that place the power of that place : we did terrible things in it's name. So in essence pit girl is a random person they kidnapped or wondered where they were at. What pit girl is wearing backs this up
This is one of my favorite theories too, there are a couple mentions of the plane going far off track before the crash. If the wilderness can draw them in, could it do the same with hikers or search and rescue?
Maybe we are overthinking it too much and pit girl is just Mari or Gen
Could be, but I don't think it makes sense that it's a random person considering the events and what we know so far. I don't think that line from Lottie implies that at all. Like they did terrible things either way.
she's wearing one of the night garments we've seen the girls wear numerous times throughout the first two seasons... nice try
@@spicy_kitty7983and also Jackie's necklace. I'm pretty sure it's Mari, from the hair
In the s2 episode 1 plane boarding rescue scene it shows 8 individuals. None of them is Travis. So that means that there are at a minimum 9 survivors. That 8 survived theory is incorrect. Mari and Melissa look like they are among the survivors in that scene. .
Not one single person has ever seen Mari or Melissa in the rescue scene, the yj producers are not that sloppy
@@FeyFire I made a post on red, it on the YJ sub specifically on this topic. YT doesn't allow links but if you visit the site and do a search for "More than 8" the post should come up. There are pictures of all the survivors in that boarding scene and close ups on possible Mari and Melissa.
edit: Actually just google "More than 8 Yellowjackets" and the post should come up in google search.
@@FeyFire My first reply got removed/hidden for whatever reason. Plenty of people have slowed down that scene, screen shot and seen two people that are not among the 7 survivors we have seen as adults. One of them looking a lot like Mari and the other could only be Melissa or a yet to be introduced JV girl.
@@thisone.or possibly some hikers or some shit also get lost in the wilderness and some of the rescued people aren’t even their friends and that’s why they’ve never mentioned them before? like people have thought maybe they end up killing other people who wandered by their hunting grounds but maybe some people become their allies?
I know the show may want us to think pit girl is Mari. I have this strong feeling that it isn't her. It'd be too obvious. A red herring maybe.
If there's another survivor what happened to that person in the future???? I'm really curios about that but I'd enjoy so much if one those side character (Mari/Akilah) survive as well and we only find out later in the series
it doesn’t really make sense considering they have gone over who lived specifically, so if someone else survived i think they are dead between the rescue and current timeline or if it’s like maybe Ben or something if he actually ended up never seeing them again and they thought he or whoever just died…like the girls have to assume that person is dead already and that’s why they didn’t mention them before
Hillary Swank has been cast in this next season. Who could she be playing?🤔 In theory, there HAS to be someone else!
Yea she’s definitely a YJ
There is so much content coming out now Post strike that I hope they get this third season out in time... Definitely before the end of the year.. Especially with the mess Paramount studios is currently in.
There's snow in the scene, it means it'll most likely happen near the end before they get rescued
There is that shot in 1998 where a girl has a chin very similar to Mari. :) Mari Lives. Too mean spirited to die! Not Pit Girl!
It chooses!
Who's the blue-eyed person at 5:03?
great catch!
Van?
@ I watched the pilot again and didn't notice this clip, but I reckon so-called pit girl is Callie (who has blue eyes). I think it's a flash forward. Maybe they go on the run. I love Yellowjackets and would covet a role in it! It's so twisty and mysterious and gross all at once. It reminds me of 'The Lottery' by Shirley Jackson. I've another theory about coach and the symbol.
I don’t think they killed Pit Girl for survival. They killed her for sport, since it seems the group will split in two…and maybe they hunt each other for fun?
They hunted her because she was causing problems for them. It’s going to be the daughter of the guy who was there before. Javi said he had a friend that told him not to go back, and there’s a pink rocking chair at the cabin.
who said that all of the people were rescued at the same time?
For a show so well done the squeakyclean fake plastic fur is really disappointing. I wish so much they’d have attempted to make it look more natural.
I manifested this vid
I sensed it!
Love your videos 🙏🏻❤️
Thank you! 💫
Livestream soon, I hope :)
Soon! I promise!
I Love the theory that this scene takes place in the future and Pit Girl is Callie
They show Misty's face tho?
why would you love that theory? it's stupid and makes no sense
@@nah4073There are multiple scenes where the adults regress to their teen selves in emotional scenes
@@Willowsheep Yes, it could be that, although those scenes are usually shot in a different way. I went back and rewatched that, and what I noticed also is that the "pit girl scene" and the scene of them eating the human flesh are not actually as connected as I thought before. It implies they are eating pit girl, but it's not actually fully confirmed, and the girl they are bleeding out doesn't even seem to have the holes pit girl would have. So, at the end of the day, it could be completely different moments, too (Misty's face reveal and the pit girl part). I still am not a crazy fan of this theory that it happens in the adult timeline, but it seems much more plausible when rewatching the first episodes.
I never understood how or why people came up with this theory, there’s no reason to believe it.
When will season 3 be coming out?😊
2025
@@FeyFireOH My goodness! It's so long to wait, considering that the last season was last year!😮😮😮
Btw, thank you so much!😊
Valentines Day 2025❤
The worst theory: it’s Callie. Rather than the pit girl scene taking place in the past, we’re seeing a future where all the women, including Callie, return to the wilderness.
lol what?
How? Since there is a young Misty it can’t be in the present time
@@ZiggyonMarsI mean we saw a adult Nat briefly “become” young Nat during the scene with lottie and Nat at lotties “cult” maybe it’s the same sort of thing but this time with misty?
Hilary Swank is starring in season 3, so I wonder who she plays.
I made a video about that last week! th-cam.com/video/BvHFQaBPK8M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ttrv5gpJXounbK2M
@ thank you!!!! I’ll definitely check it out
Pit girl is gen
If they get rescued very soon after sacrificing pit girl that would be a big tie in with lord of the flies, how they killed when help was arriving and realised just how avoidable it was
The words are across your entire video.
What about a theory that Pit Girl is Lottie and she gets reincarnated.
The coach as well isn't anywhere to be seen.
Tried watching this show, but could not because it's too fanciful, I needed to separate my self from reality or common sense
More like you already separate yourself too much
Refreshing my memory of past episodes with your videos before new season starts. 🫵🏿fabulous 👑
This was a really fun video to make, I hope you enjoy it very much looking forward to learning more about PG in s3