I just love (note the sarcasm) how Hatice gets so furious over Ibrahim cheating but she expects Hurrem and Mahidevran and everyone in harem to just get along and stop causing trouble😑😑😑😑
Because she is married to Ibrahim meanwhile she sees all of Suleiman's Harem as slaves so they shouldn't have feelings or dignity of their own. They're all concubines taken from their lives to be slaves of the sultan.
She was a Sultana. A member of a Royal Dynasty. He HAD to be faithful to her. Technically, he was her servant, even if he was the head of his household in marriage. It's complicated... but he definitely was NOT allowed to cheat on her.
@@smji5269 but Hurrem had the right to be jealous. The problem here is that he is the Sultan and have to have male heirs, and having a lot of wives helped him acheive that. Plus, marriages were a good way to seal a political traity
Ibrahim cheated on me: Hurrem fault, I want to divorce. Later: Ibrahim dies, Hurrem fault, You are not my brother anymore. LoL Woman make up your mind :D
Exactly what i say.. She became best buds to the cheaters girl too. And blames hurrem for his death when shes the one who told Suliman he cheated. Crazy lady!!
Hatice: So... I want to divorce my husband because he cheated on me. Please, accept my decision. Suleyman: Sure! Your word will be done. If you don't forgive him, he DIES.
She told the Sultan about Ibrahim’s adultery then in later episodes blamed Hurrem for his demise ! And how is it any different for the Sultan to marry Hurrem then continue to sleep with other women just because he’s the Sultan ?
Suleiman believed that he is better than everyone else and therefore he has more rights. Hatice also thought that she is better than others. This is what their parents taught them.
Maybe seems hypocritical to us, but Suleiman was technically allowed to sleep with his concubines because he owned them. Nigar wasn't Ibrahim's concubine, so it was adultery.
I just don't understand Hatice. From going to divorce Ibrahim as a punishment to blaming Hurrem, Nigar and even the baby for Ibrahim's fault and channeling all her negative energy to punish them for all the mistakes that Ibrahim had done. How???
Hatice just couldn't accept the fact that she is human (bound to make mistakes), and married to a human being who also has weaknesses and faults. She thinks shenever made a mistake in loving a man with such character blemishes - she's far beyond making any wrong judgment of character! Having been sheltered by either her mother or the Sultan all her life, I think it has never occurred to her that being a human being - herself included - entails responsibility for one's actions and the repercussions of these actions. She probably thinks that only slaves and people in lower ranks are accountable for any wrongdoings. Pity. Despite having had all the time and resources in the world, she possessed such very limited knowledge about her religion and humanity.
So sad for Nigar Kalfa. They even mocked her after her death and call it a well deserved death because of her "long list of sins". Like what? Their sins are way longer lol
Suleiman later came to the realization of what he had to do when he had an innocent man hung and realized how big a threat Ibrahim was becoming but waited until Ibrahim had basically signed his own death warrant.
Historically, he was executed for overstepping his boundaries, and he tried to elevate himself to the level of the Sultan. His ambition and crass alarmed Hurrem too. His relationship with Hattice was purely speculation that has been discredited, but the show married him to Hattice to drive the plot. Cheating on his wife was just icing to the cake that can’t be historically proven nor disproven, but was likely added into the show to drive the story. This whole scene lays the foundation for Ibrahim’s execution (really happened), Hurrem’s dramatic kidnapping (fictional) and Hattice’s ensuing fictional suicide.
@@vanessawilson9785 actually it was said that hatice sultan was actually depressed, I forgot the source but I’m sure I read it right as it was a historical page and not the ones about the movie
@@bondakaucantik5256 are you trying to make yourself feel better? What kind of denial is that. He was with Gulfem cheated with Mahidevran before then cheated Mahidevran with Hurrem. Thats two examples. You are telling me a Sultam never had another woman after Hurrem? as would be the biggest lie in the world. He was a Sultan not the Pope and it wasn't Romeo and Juliet either but Suleiman and Hurrem so stop acting like you know everything about Suleiman.
This was a tough pill for Hatice Sultan to swallow when she heard about the forbidden affair that was going on between Ibrahim Pasha and Nigar Kalfa. Hatice Sultan had a hard time holding back her tears after she told her brother what's been going on between the two forbidden affair between also the love birds.
Hatice Sultan had a hard time hearing about the forbidden love affair going on between Ibrahim Pasha and Nigar Kalfa Hatun after Hatice received a letter from an messenger about the forbidden affair situation. I felt bad for Hatice Sultan when she had to deal with her husband cheating on a servant and got her pregnant with unintended consequences down the road. Whoa!
How can a woman be blamed for a big mistake committed by a man? The main reason why ibrahim was sentenced to death was because of the madness of power and he started announcing himself as sultan..Well, the man who blames others for his mistakes and does not admit his mistakes is a cowards..
Like she is not worthy to be a woman af a Grand Vizier because she's just a mere harem kalfa. It is an insult to her as a Sultana, but yo' Nigar Kalfa is way more gorgeous and intelligent and sensible. Lol
@@user-iz9vd4gf6r Suleiman dressed modestly after Hurrem passed away, and he only lived a further 8 years before he would rejoin his beloved wife in paradise. It was a change from the many colorful outfits he wore before, it could be said he simply died of a broken heart, but considering he was in his mid 60's or so when he died, he was old for the time.
Only the sultan and the princes (when they go to sanjak(like manissa)) are allowed to have concubines.. so it's not cheating (in their law/in that time) Ibrahim is a pasha so he's not allowed to sleep with any woman other than his wife.
@@AzelVonAzrael He could have had married another wife tho. I think that the fact that his wife is Hatice is the problem here. He had to respect her, since she was the sister of the Sultan. Offending her was equal to offending the Sultan 🤔
I think it's fascinating how men and women think. It's nearly all men's fantasy to have a lot of women to sleep with and to be waited on. But it's women's dream to have that special SOMEONE just for themselves for their lifetime. I wonder why God made us so different in that respect? 🤔
That sounds great let’s just leave it up to Hatice. let’s not punish him accordingly. It doesn’t matter that he spent time with Nigar more than Hatice for quite a while. it doesn’t matter that valide Hafsa sultan fell ill and died thanks to Nigar and Ibrahim’s affair when she found out. Let’s have Hatice decide even if she forgives him. That makes sense. that’s the most reasonable approach to this situation rather than execute or strip Ibrahim of his position and authorities since you know that’s what typically happens to Pashas who cheats on their Sultanas wives
@@mjbelle23 nope. You mixed up the whole plot. Ibrahim was killed bcz he over stepped his boundaries. Started calling himself Sultan, madw his own throne.
@@mjbelle23 yes true. But the scene you are talking about is when Suleiman after Meeting hatice called Ibrahim and threatened to kill him if he cheated with her again.
When she told him I thought the Sultan would say, "What's wrong with that, I do it all the time." 🤭
He doesn't cheat, what he does is allowed.
@@martabeatriz6896 Just because it’s allowed it doesn’t mean it’s not cheating. He was still a cheating sleeze bag.
🤣🤣😜i should have also said 🤣
@@hollygolightly649 in history he wasn’t though. The real suleiman was faithful to Hurrem. The real Hatice also wasn’t married to Pasha so…
@@b.3049 no he wasnt XD
I just love (note the sarcasm) how Hatice gets so furious over Ibrahim cheating but she expects Hurrem and Mahidevran and everyone in harem to just get along and stop causing trouble😑😑😑😑
Because she is married to Ibrahim meanwhile she sees all of Suleiman's Harem as slaves so they shouldn't have feelings or dignity of their own. They're all concubines taken from their lives to be slaves of the sultan.
She was a Sultana. A member of a Royal Dynasty. He HAD to be faithful to her. Technically, he was her servant, even if he was the head of his household in marriage. It's complicated... but he definitely was NOT allowed to cheat on her.
@@smji5269 but hurrem is a free woman and haseki sultan
@@comradeleppi2000 True but she's still considered his property because they're muslim.
@@smji5269 but Hurrem had the right to be jealous. The problem here is that he is the Sultan and have to have male heirs, and having a lot of wives helped him acheive that. Plus, marriages were a good way to seal a political traity
I just love how Suleiman just hugs Hatice. Sometimes an action does more than a thousand words.
It's funny to see "What?! He slept with another woman? How DARE he?!" kind of reaction from Suleiman
True... Lol
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he is a sultan and Ibrahim is a pasha
@@shahanabegum326 whatever
Ibrahim cheated on me: Hurrem fault, I want to divorce. Later: Ibrahim dies, Hurrem fault, You are not my brother anymore.
LoL Woman make up your mind :D
So true 😂
Exactly what i say..
She became best buds to the cheaters girl too. And blames hurrem for his death when shes the one who told Suliman he cheated. Crazy lady!!
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Hatice: So... I want to divorce my husband because he cheated on me. Please, accept my decision.
Suleyman: Sure! Your word will be done. If you don't forgive him, he DIES.
Now that's a big bro 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMAO
Ibrahim then goes and gets himself offed later anyway, talk about rude.
She told the Sultan about Ibrahim’s adultery then in later episodes blamed Hurrem for his demise ! And how is it any different for the Sultan to marry Hurrem then continue to sleep with other women just because he’s the Sultan ?
Suleiman believed that he is better than everyone else and therefore he has more rights. Hatice also thought that she is better than others. This is what their parents taught them.
It's allowable to sleep with slaves.
@@abdullahahmed8369 a man’s explanation : do as I say not as I do !
@@maryannsarkady7950 🥱
Maybe seems hypocritical to us, but Suleiman was technically allowed to sleep with his concubines because he owned them. Nigar wasn't Ibrahim's concubine, so it was adultery.
I just don't understand Hatice. From going to divorce Ibrahim as a punishment to blaming Hurrem, Nigar and even the baby for Ibrahim's fault and channeling all her negative energy to punish them for all the mistakes that Ibrahim had done. How???
Hatice just couldn't accept the fact that she is human (bound to make mistakes), and married to a human being who also has weaknesses and faults. She thinks shenever made a mistake in loving a man with such character blemishes - she's far beyond making any wrong judgment of character!
Having been sheltered by either her mother or the Sultan all her life, I think it has never occurred to her that being a human being - herself included - entails responsibility for one's actions and the repercussions of these actions.
She probably thinks that only slaves and people in lower ranks are accountable for any wrongdoings. Pity. Despite having had all the time and resources in the world, she possessed such very limited knowledge about her religion and humanity.
So sad for Nigar Kalfa. They even mocked her after her death and call it a well deserved death because of her "long list of sins". Like what? Their sins are way longer lol
The Ibrahim in this series gets what he deserves. Hatice shouldn't have told the Sultan if she didn't want her cheater husband to be offed
Suleiman later came to the realization of what he had to do when he had an innocent man hung and realized how big a threat Ibrahim was becoming but waited until Ibrahim had basically signed his own death warrant.
He was so considerate of her feelings here. I wonder how he made the leap from this to ordering Ibrahim’s execution.
Historically, he was executed for overstepping his boundaries, and he tried to elevate himself to the level of the Sultan. His ambition and crass alarmed Hurrem too. His relationship with Hattice was purely speculation that has been discredited, but the show married him to Hattice to drive the plot. Cheating on his wife was just icing to the cake that can’t be historically proven nor disproven, but was likely added into the show to drive the story. This whole scene lays the foundation for Ibrahim’s execution (really happened), Hurrem’s dramatic kidnapping (fictional) and Hattice’s ensuing fictional suicide.
@@vanessawilson9785 As Charlie Murphy used to say, he was a habitual line stepper 😂
@@vanessawilson9785 actually it was said that hatice sultan was actually depressed, I forgot the source but I’m sure I read it right as it was a historical page and not the ones about the movie
Suleiman is getting shock after shock in this scene.
In Suleiman's mind. hmmmm let me act like I never done it.
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Suleiman never commit adultery. He even married to Hurrem after he freed her.
@@bondakaucantik5256 are you trying to make yourself feel better? What kind of denial is that. He was with Gulfem cheated with Mahidevran before then cheated Mahidevran with Hurrem. Thats two examples. You are telling me a Sultam never had another woman after Hurrem? as would be the biggest lie in the world. He was a Sultan not the Pope and it wasn't Romeo and Juliet either but Suleiman and Hurrem so stop acting like you know everything about Suleiman.
@@QuantumGamingUploads Suleiman didn't think of other woman after marrying hurrem
That's what royal is always royal ..... Ibrahim pasha is just like common man.....
In this partni feel hatice sorrow. i have been cheated twice n hurt broke my ❤️ until now
Omgg..I hope u find someone better❤️
I'm so sorry for you.
Don't worry. You will find someone better.
So now whenever you get cheated on you’re all good? Savage
I don't understand the language without the captions, but it is very beautiful. 🐾
This was a tough pill for Hatice Sultan to swallow when she heard about the forbidden affair that was going on between Ibrahim Pasha and Nigar Kalfa. Hatice Sultan had a hard time holding back her tears after she told her brother what's been going on between the two forbidden affair between also the love birds.
Hatice Sultan had a hard time hearing about the forbidden love affair going on between Ibrahim Pasha and Nigar Kalfa Hatun after Hatice received a letter from an messenger about the forbidden affair situation. I felt bad for Hatice Sultan when she had to deal with her husband cheating on a servant and got her pregnant with unintended consequences down the road. Whoa!
When he calls the agha is when Hatice remembers shit my brother is the sultan
😂 exactly
Now u felt it suleiman..
The Sultan is a wise man.
Hatice forgive him just to get revenge from Hürrem 😁 and later he was executed because of Hürrem 😁
How can a woman be blamed for a big mistake committed by a man? The main reason why ibrahim was sentenced to death was because of the madness of power and he started announcing himself as sultan..Well, the man who blames others for his mistakes and does not admit his mistakes is a cowards..
Hatice is a crazy women
With respect, Ibrahim was executed because of Ibrahim, he got in his own way and his power and wealth went to his head.
His shock when she said Nigar @4:44😲
Like she is not worthy to be a woman af a Grand Vizier because she's just a mere harem kalfa. It is an insult to her as a Sultana, but yo' Nigar Kalfa is way more gorgeous and intelligent and sensible. Lol
@@2012aster yes. Also the loyalty was missing. Nigar betrayed the royalty.
Just popping this here
IRL, the Sultan was loyal to Hurrem
oh ryt thanks for reminding me
Yeah, the series did him , and their relationship, dirty...l.but ✨️drama✨️ I suppose
@@user-iz9vd4gf6r Suleiman dressed modestly after Hurrem passed away, and he only lived a further 8 years before he would rejoin his beloved wife in paradise. It was a change from the many colorful outfits he wore before, it could be said he simply died of a broken heart, but considering he was in his mid 60's or so when he died, he was old for the time.
does anybody know what music plays while Hatice is talking to Sultan?
What is this Sulymaan, when its comes to your sister it is blood ,but when its come to your wife it is tomato sauce 🤔
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It's called don't do as I do but do as I say
I don't understand how ibrahim cheated but the sultan had many concubines lol
Only the sultan and the princes (when they go to sanjak(like manissa)) are allowed to have concubines.. so it's not cheating (in their law/in that time)
Ibrahim is a pasha so he's not allowed to sleep with any woman other than his wife.
The sultan raped many women as to secure their bloodline via various mothers/ offsprings
@@AzelVonAzrael So ... ?! And you think this was fair?!
@@Aegeanic_Shorts Re-read ...(in their law/in that time)
@@AzelVonAzrael He could have had married another wife tho. I think that the fact that his wife is Hatice is the problem here. He had to respect her, since she was the sister of the Sultan. Offending her was equal to offending the Sultan 🤔
Only her sister would pay His debt. So what's the difference.
I think it's fascinating how men and women think. It's nearly all men's fantasy to have a lot of women to sleep with and to be waited on. But it's women's dream to have that special SOMEONE just for themselves
for their lifetime. I wonder why God made us so different in that respect? 🤔
Which episode?
That sounds great let’s just leave it up to Hatice. let’s not punish him accordingly. It doesn’t matter that he spent time with Nigar more than Hatice for quite a while. it doesn’t matter that valide Hafsa sultan fell ill and died thanks to Nigar and Ibrahim’s affair when she found out. Let’s have Hatice decide even if she forgives him. That makes sense. that’s the most reasonable approach to this situation rather than execute or strip Ibrahim of his position and authorities since you know that’s what typically happens to Pashas who cheats on their Sultanas wives
Double standards
Hahaha its funny how she cry about her man cheating while she saw lots of women being groom to be her brothers women what a miss up life it that
Suleyman is sultan !
She said she could bear the consequences, but didn’t she commit suicide later on?
It wasn't bcz of this matter.
Which episode is this?
Lol..she is talking to Number One cheater In the world😂
I love your answer karma time
Sultan was wrong her by saying that "She will decide ibrahim's fate.
actually no as his decision for execution of Ibrahim made her go crazy after so she didn't want him dead. Sultan's decision was clear on this one.
Which number episode is this
Good night Ibrahim.
He is fair sultan
Hatice is also magnum woman
It's too bad Hattice and Hurrem couldn't maintain the friendship they had in the earliest episodes, per the story.
Anyone remember " rango " 's heroine ? She looks like hatice Sultana 🤭 .... Isn't she ?
drama betul hatice... pastu tk jd cerai sbb sakit hati dgn hurrem 🤣
Mental kan sis? Tak jadi ceraikan Ibrahim semata2 nk sakitkan hati Hurrem.
Hatice is such a whiner . Good grief then she takes it out on Hurrem .
Mahidevran was worse then Hattice in the show, always crying about something.
I see so only sultan is allowed to have many concubines not other men😅
yes. If you know Sumbul and Gul Aga were enuchs otherwise they would be no where near the harem.
That is how to show the difference between sultan and his subject
Did ibrahim pasa actually cheat in real life
in real life they were not married, only for the plot they are married in the series
According to history he was married to another woman of the Ottoman aristocracy.
What bull is this it's her fault 🤣😅🤣
See clearly didn’t see other episodes just clips , and it’s clear she killed Ibrahim and blamed Hurrem smh
It never happened that way. I wonder which clips you watched
@@ayzasaqib1907 what do you mean ? When she told her brother everything he did , neck was already cut off
@@mjbelle23 nope. You mixed up the whole plot. Ibrahim was killed bcz he over stepped his boundaries. Started calling himself Sultan, madw his own throne.
@@ayzasaqib1907 it was many instances that got him killed , that was the last straw
@@mjbelle23 yes true. But the scene you are talking about is when Suleiman after Meeting hatice called Ibrahim and threatened to kill him if he cheated with her again.