Thanks for the feedback, we have some interesting new videos in the pipeline on Arm and AMD CPUs for servers coming shortly. Keep an eye for them in the next few days. - JG
There is a tiny number of laptops with Xeon processors which are aimed at workstation type applications such as CAD etc, however they're not really the same as Xeon server CPUs or Core CPUs. - JG
You might also Note it has to be 8th Gen or above to run Win11 and many workstation cpu's won't run Win11 even with the TPM 2.0 chip installed on the motherboard.
Hello Scan IT Solutions, I recently purchased a Precision 5510 machine with an Intel(r) CPU E3-1505M v5 for my Python programming and web development needs. I'm eager to know more about how well it performs in these fields. Could you please provide a brief explanation of its capabilities and how efficiently it can handle programming tasks? Thank you in advance for your insights! Best regards
Hi Ali, the Xeon E3-1505M v5 CPU in your system has four cores and eight threads so should handle basic programming and web dev stuff ok. However, due to its age (2015 - Skylake architecture) it's going to struggle with more complex projects, i.e. compiling big applications or image and video work. For example, the current equivalent CPU, the Xeon E-2176M has six cores and twelve threads and runs on a more architecture (2018 - Skylake). - JG
Thanks for the explanation! For 3D rendering and Bim program for architecture should I go for a Core I9 or a Xeon-W 2245 ou the 2255 or the 2265, the xeon in this case justify the investment ? If I get a Xeon with less cores than the Corei9 would it be better even with less cores and clockspeed or the Corei9 is better?
Unless you really need the extra RAM capacity and PCIe lanes the Core i9 is the better choice for you. What 3D rendering programs do you use? Most render far faster on GPUs than CPUs. - JG
@@scanitsolutions I use Vray, Enscape, Lumion for rendering. For the 3D I use sketchup and archicad. Is the ECC memory and the technology of the xeon important, will it last more than the core cpu, or the core is fine?
@@eloisacardoso2190 VRay, Enscape and Lumion all either use GPU rendering or run much faster on GPU than CPU, so I'd save money on the CPU and buy the Core i9 instead. If you have the budget to spare for a Xeon, then it won't last any longer, but the ECC will help protect from system crashes during extremely long renders. i.e. if projects are only taking a few hours to complete ECC is arguably not really worth the price premium, but for projects that take days then ECC is definitely worth it for added peace of mind. - JG
@@scanitsolutions Thanks for your reply. My virtual machines are Win server 16, Mac, Win 10&8, Kali Linux, Ubuntu and some other hacking VM boxes. But not definitely for business purpose. What would be the best option?
It sounds to me like the choice for will come down to how many CPU cores and RAM you need. I imagine with all those VMs you may need quite a lot. Core CPUs top out at 24 cores and 128GB of RAM whereas Xeon tops out at 60 cores and 8TB of RAM. - JG
@@scanitsolutions Hey Thanks a lot JG. I really appreciate your time to reply back to my questions. This channel is unique and special because it responds to comments and help everyone. Keep it up and all the best! ♥️
Your Intel Xeon E5-1620 processor is not on the Windows 11 supported processors list. So either you're using a cracked Win11 and not getting updates or you're lying. A Z440 running a Xeon 1630 v4 isn't officially "supported" with Windows 11. As I understand it, there are 2 basic problems: TPM version and the CPU itself.
What I would like is to understand the actual differences within the Xeon CPU oriented for Workstation and server. Both of them have the AVX-512 instruction feature so, apart from the primary and secondary cores and the capability to overclock ... Is there any other difference?
The biggest difference between Xeon Scalable (servers) and Xeon W (workstations) comes down to two main things. Firstly, Xeon W are available at a higher clock speeds (4.8 vs 4.1GHz), which helps speed up content creation applications, and conversely holds Xeon Scalable's back. Secondly, Xeon W have more PCIe lanes (112 vs 80) which helps when connecting lots of GPUs, SSDs etc, speeding up workloads such as data science and rendering. - JG
With xeon processors they dont have integrated graphics right ? How well would a xeon processor perform in retro gaming with and without a dedicated gpu ?
Some older Xeon W processors have integrated graphics which should be ok for retro gaming, but will really struggle with modern games. The integrated graphics really aren't designed for this, but for basic Windows applications. As to your second question about a dedicated GPU, it's normally pretty much mandatory for gaming, but it depends how retro you're going. Did you have any particular games in mind? - JG
Really hard to say with any certainty, but I should think that a Xeon W should just about be able to cope with those sorts of retro games. The bigger issue I suspect will be the GPU drivers, as they were never optimised for gaming and I've seen all sorts of visual artefacts when gaming on integrated Intel GPUs over the years. - JG
The Xeon W-2123 is a fairly old CPU so might give you some trouble in the latest games, especially strategy games and flight sims. It only has four cores so will really struggle with streaming. However, the biggest bottleneck for most games is the GPU, not the CPU. What GPU do you have in your workstation? - JG
@@scanitsolutions GPU is the biggest bottleneck because most people do a wrong pci configuration but all fast paced competitive and online games and using video encoders for streaming relies heavily on thread cpu usage (MMORPGS, FPS, etc) which a workstation system might be more suitable for his needs
The shorter answer is neither. The long answer is it depends entirely on what sort of system you are planning (desktop, workstation, server) and what applications it will be running. - JG
@scanitsolutions I think it's not a matter of where do I live in (I live in Brazil, btw)... if you check Steam hardware survey, you'll see that 6 cores CPUs take over 30% of the "market" share, when 16 cores CPU represent less than 5%.
Yeah probably not, although some regions do have different market trends. Just to be clear, what I was saying is that we (Scan) sell more Core i9s than other processors. - JG
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i really love this chanel.i get lots of information about tech.
We're glad you're enjoying the content and finding it useful. Let us know what other topics you'd like us to cover. - JG
NICE VIDEO, PLEASE DO MORE CONTENTS! YOU ARE AWESOME
Thanks for the feedback, we have some interesting new videos in the pipeline on Arm and AMD CPUs for servers coming shortly. Keep an eye for them in the next few days. - JG
@@scanitsolutions Looking forward to the ARM CPU one - you don't really hear much about them in Servers - usually only Epyc or Xeon
Great video thank you! I will be building a new Xeon W5-2455X system and yes it will also be a gaming machine.
Thanks for the comment. - JG
Would love to see this at work on my laptop
There is a tiny number of laptops with Xeon processors which are aimed at workstation type applications such as CAD etc, however they're not really the same as Xeon server CPUs or Core CPUs. - JG
You might also Note it has to be 8th Gen or above to run Win11 and many workstation cpu's won't run Win11 even with the TPM 2.0 chip installed on the motherboard.
what is better for editing core intel or xeon?
You have a mistake. i9 is up to 20 lanes.
Is xeon family processors recommended for video editing, vfx and 3d rendering?
yes it can withstand rendering overtime
Hello Scan IT Solutions,
I recently purchased a Precision 5510 machine with an Intel(r) CPU E3-1505M v5 for my Python programming and web development needs. I'm eager to know more about how well it performs in these fields. Could you please provide a brief explanation of its capabilities and how efficiently it can handle programming tasks?
Thank you in advance for your insights!
Best regards
Hi Ali, the Xeon E3-1505M v5 CPU in your system has four cores and eight threads so should handle basic programming and web dev stuff ok. However, due to its age (2015 - Skylake architecture) it's going to struggle with more complex projects, i.e. compiling big applications or image and video work.
For example, the current equivalent CPU, the Xeon E-2176M has six cores and twelve threads and runs on a more architecture (2018 - Skylake). - JG
Thanks for the explanation! For 3D rendering and Bim program for architecture should I go for a Core I9 or a Xeon-W 2245 ou the 2255 or the 2265, the xeon in this case justify the investment ? If I get a Xeon with less cores than the Corei9 would it be better even with less cores and clockspeed or the Corei9 is better?
Unless you really need the extra RAM capacity and PCIe lanes the Core i9 is the better choice for you. What 3D rendering programs do you use? Most render far faster on GPUs than CPUs. - JG
@@scanitsolutions I use Vray, Enscape, Lumion for rendering. For the 3D I use sketchup and archicad. Is the ECC memory and the technology of the xeon important, will it last more than the core cpu, or the core is fine?
@@eloisacardoso2190 VRay, Enscape and Lumion all either use GPU rendering or run much faster on GPU than CPU, so I'd save money on the CPU and buy the Core i9 instead. If you have the budget to spare for a Xeon, then it won't last any longer, but the ECC will help protect from system crashes during extremely long renders. i.e. if projects are only taking a few hours to complete ECC is arguably not really worth the price premium, but for projects that take days then ECC is definitely worth it for added peace of mind. - JG
Thank You Thank You for this Great Presentation
Thanks, glad you finding the channel useful. - JG
Pl also explain Intel CPUs with range of speeds and 2 types of cores E and P cores. Also how does an I3 with 3ghz compare to i4 with 2.6ghz etc.
There's no such thing as an i4 processor. i3,i5,i7,i9. Where do these meat in bread people even come from?
I usually want to run many virtual machines and regular apps. I don’t play games. So which one would be the best option for me?
What are your virtual machines running? If they are for your business then Xeon is the way to go for extra reliability / resilience. - JG
@@scanitsolutions Thanks for your reply. My virtual machines are Win server 16, Mac, Win 10&8, Kali Linux, Ubuntu and some other hacking VM boxes. But not definitely for business purpose. What would be the best option?
It sounds to me like the choice for will come down to how many CPU cores and RAM you need. I imagine with all those VMs you may need quite a lot. Core CPUs top out at 24 cores and 128GB of RAM whereas Xeon tops out at 60 cores and 8TB of RAM. - JG
@@scanitsolutions Hey Thanks a lot JG. I really appreciate your time to reply back to my questions. This channel is unique and special because it responds to comments and help everyone. Keep it up and all the best! ♥️
Happy to help, good luck with whatever you decide to go with. - JG
This is a TH-cam Channel has more information for me.
Thanks, glad you finding the channel useful. - JG
thanks for the info...
Thanks, glad you finding the channel useful. - JG
I have an old HP Z 440 running windows 11. E5 1620 V3 CPU. 32 GB ddr4 and a quadro k2200. Samsung 870 ssd. Goes well.
Does it also work good for 4K60 video editing?
Your Intel Xeon E5-1620 processor is not on the Windows 11 supported processors list. So either you're using a cracked Win11 and not getting updates or you're lying. A Z440 running a Xeon 1630 v4 isn't officially "supported" with Windows 11. As I understand it, there are 2 basic problems: TPM version and the CPU itself.
What I would like is to understand the actual differences within the Xeon CPU oriented for Workstation and server. Both of them have the AVX-512 instruction feature so, apart from the primary and secondary cores and the capability to overclock ... Is there any other difference?
The biggest difference between Xeon Scalable (servers) and Xeon W (workstations) comes down to two main things. Firstly, Xeon W are available at a higher clock speeds (4.8 vs 4.1GHz), which helps speed up content creation applications, and conversely holds Xeon Scalable's back. Secondly, Xeon W have more PCIe lanes (112 vs 80) which helps when connecting lots of GPUs, SSDs etc, speeding up workloads such as data science and rendering. - JG
Thanks , much appreciated. @@scanitsolutions
No mention of P vs E cores or the fact that the Xeon E-2xxx CPUs are mostly rebadged Core CPUs??
With xeon processors they dont have integrated graphics right ?
How well would a xeon processor perform in retro gaming with and without a dedicated gpu ?
Some older Xeon W processors have integrated graphics which should be ok for retro gaming, but will really struggle with modern games.
The integrated graphics really aren't designed for this, but for basic Windows applications.
As to your second question about a dedicated GPU, it's normally pretty much mandatory for gaming, but it depends how retro you're going. Did you have any particular games in mind? - JG
Possible ps2, xbox, wii, dreamcast
Really hard to say with any certainty, but I should think that a Xeon W should just about be able to cope with those sorts of retro games. The bigger issue I suspect will be the GPU drivers, as they were never optimised for gaming and I've seen all sorts of visual artefacts when gaming on integrated Intel GPUs over the years. - JG
@mikemells1642 add a low-end 2gb gpu. It will run those perfectly
is xeon w2123 good for gaming?! and streaming?! workstation z4 system i mean
The Xeon W-2123 is a fairly old CPU so might give you some trouble in the latest games, especially strategy games and flight sims. It only has four cores so will really struggle with streaming. However, the biggest bottleneck for most games is the GPU, not the CPU. What GPU do you have in your workstation? - JG
@@scanitsolutions GPU is the biggest bottleneck because most people do a wrong pci configuration but all fast paced competitive and online games and using video encoders for streaming relies heavily on thread cpu usage (MMORPGS, FPS, etc) which a workstation system might be more suitable for his needs
Hello, well, which one is better?
The shorter answer is neither. The long answer is it depends entirely on what sort of system you are planning (desktop, workstation, server) and what applications it will be running. - JG
@@scanitsolutions oh, ok thanks.
Welp, time to make a new video on this, I guess.
Intel just threw a spanner into everything sane about their naming convention :(
Core i9 is one of the most popular? I need to move to her country
Core i9 is very popular here at Scan in the UK. Where are you from? - JG
@scanitsolutions I think it's not a matter of where do I live in (I live in Brazil, btw)... if you check Steam hardware survey, you'll see that 6 cores CPUs take over 30% of the "market" share, when 16 cores CPU represent less than 5%.
Yeah probably not, although some regions do have different market trends. Just to be clear, what I was saying is that we (Scan) sell more Core i9s than other processors. - JG
Im gonna buy a w9 3495x for day trading . Will it justify ?
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Glad to see you liked this video, let us know what topics you'd like us to cover in future videos. - JG
1:44 Bronze also before silver
Good spot, although there's only a single Bronze CPU, so its a tiny part of the range. - JG
She's from the north.
Well...
We hope you found it useful. Let us know what you'd like the channel to cover next. - JG
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