Steve Gregg Discusses the Traditional View of Israel & the End Times
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Part one of our conversation with Steve Gregg, who joined the That You May Know Him Podcast to discuss the traditional view of Israel and the end times, the modern state of Israel, and whether or not there are still promises to Israel awaiting fulfillment.
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Excellent discussion guys. I never get tired of listening to Steve. Great teacher.
Listening again…learning so much!!
Praise the Lord, sister!
Steve Gregg and I are somewhat contemporaries on opposite sides of the California state line. Both products of the Jesus movement. After moving to Washington state, I was listening to his radio program and then met him when he was doing his program from Monroe, WA. When he mentioned how the term dispensationalism wasn’t used back then, that’s exactly right.
Thank you for watching and commenting. We were privileged to have Steve on, and we hope to do so again in the future.
God bless you, brother 🙏.
Preach it brother!😊
Great interview Blake.
Thank you so much!
@@thatyoumayknowhim You are welcome.
Another great discussion.
Thank you so much! God bless you.
Jesus is the third temple which the Jews rejected and destroyed. He is now the cornerstone of the spiritual temple made without hands, and those who belong to Him are fitly joined together.
A lot of preachers and teachers use II John 10 and similar verses, to make it sound like if you don't adhere to their denominational doctrine, then it's false, whereas in reality what John is saying that if you don't adhere to what the apostles and Christ taught, then don't bid godspeed or give ear.
Concerning the 7 year tribulation and rapture, I believe what Steve teaches is obviously correct: namely and foundationally, Daniel 9:25-27 refutes that idea.
As far as Israel goes, the 1948 restoration was brought about by legislation, not miracles, and I think Scofield had a hand in that, all of which was ill founded and likely fueled by the military industrial complex; i.e., make Israel an object of near worship, elitist, a nation which can do no wrong, thus a propellant for constant wars, which Israel, the CIA, and US Dept. of State start, and great riches for a select few. Quite nifty.
Though Romans 11 seems to substantiate the notion that the state of Israel is still God's chosen, in reality, true Israel is, and always was, genuine believers both Jew and Gentile. Plus, in Hebrews it is stated that the Old Testament events were shadows and examples of what now is. So why would one thing carry over into NT times, when everything else was figurative of what was then yet to be, though the OT events really happened.
I'm just a sinner being saved, but I know truth when I hear it.
Fully agree with this statement: "Though Romans 11 seems to substantiate the notion that the state of Israel is still God's chosen, in reality, true Israel is, and always was, genuine believers both Jew and Gentile. Plus, in Hebrews it is stated that the Old Testament events were shadows and examples of what now is. So why would one thing carry over into NT times, when everything else was figurative of what was then yet to be, though the OT events really happened.
I'm just a sinner being saved..."
Well said. Thanks for watching and commenting! May the Lord bless and lead you.
God did not appoint Israel/Jacob to the time of Jacob’s Trouble for no reason.
They (the portion of Jews) that God has blinded will remain so until the church has been completely martyred.
At that time the Antichrist will reach world dictator status for the final three and a half years. The time known as Jacob’s Trouble.
Out of that period God promised to save a REMNANT of those that had been blinded. They are who scripture referrers to when the Bible say’s….
We that remain and are alive!!
The rest of God’s Kingdom returns with Him from Heaven. Old and New Testament FAITHFUL!!
nothing in daniel 9 indicates the last prophetic week of daniel is 2000+ years instead of 7 years. Jesus was not a false prophet. you act like God is a cosmic racist who is obsessed with who your parents were and what DNA generic markers you have. Jesus and the apostles repeatedly speak against such beliefs, which is essentially the modern form of the 'curse of Ham' lie, asserting good or bad on folks based on who their parents were.
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Scripture speaks for itself!
And human reasoning and emotions don’t change that!
Luke 13:35 (AMP)
Listen carefully: your house is left to you desolate [abandoned by God and destitute of His protection]; and I say to you, you will not see Me until the time comes when you say, ‘BLESSED [to be celebrated with praise] IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!’”
John 12:40 (AMP)
“HE HAS BLINDED THEIR EYES AND HE HARDENED THEIR HEART, TO KEEP THEM FROM SEEING WITH THEIR EYES AND UNDERSTANDING WITH THEIR HEART AND BEING CONVERTED; OTHERWISE, I [their God] WOULD HEAL THEM.”
@@FormVoltron If both sides can say "scripture speaks for itself", it's arbitrary to bring that up. Who is to say you aren't using human reasoning an emotion? Also an arbitrary assertion.
For the Luke passage, apparently you didn't listen to Steve Gregg's exegesis on the passage. Jesus elsewhere described 'seeing' Him as being spiritual elsewhere. It does not by necessity mean what you want it to mean. You would need other passages to be say what you want in order to do so.
For the John passage, Jesus fulfilled prophecy. Sure. Just like He brought the kingdom of God.
None of that makes Jesus a racist like you portray Him to be. Jesus and the apostles constantly said being born of God was way more important than who your parents were.
@@josht1901
You may depend upon the teachings of men.
I do not.
No one said anything about racism but God’s Word that is being fulfilled.
@@FormVoltron you said I'm depending upon the teachings of men.
I'm saying you are depending on the teachings of men.
Now do you understand your faulty reasoning?
You're being arbitrary.
You're the one saying God is obsessed with DNA.
So you're the racist.
No one can know what a jew is today anyway. Ever did research on ashkenazi or zephardim jews?
You have entire nations that deemed all their subjects jews because the leader converted to tamudic judaism.
What DNA purity must someone be to be a jew according to the flesh?
You know Jesus and the apostles say being a jew according to the flesh doesn't make someone God's people.
The only one who could tell if someone is a jew according to the flesh today would be God himself.
But the real question is, does God care about what genetic markers are in your DNA?
You seem to think so.
I don't see Jesus or His apostles thinking so.
Completely absent on the topic, except for the passages that Dispensationalists try to shoe-horn to believe what Darby thought it should mean.
Jesus said the kingdom would be taken from at least the folks he spoke to (jewish folks) and given to another nation that would bear the fruits of it. If that other nation is Israel according to the flesh, then it wouldn't be another nation. Because the pharisees were jews.
Can't you see you're falling into another racial lie just like the slave owners made up the 'curse of ham' to say God treated black people differently because of their ancestors?