I'm quite glad that all of the games in this list (perhaps with the exception of Weaponlord?) are on there because they were just not very good games anyway and probably shouldn't have been included, rather than it being due to them being poor emulation or because of the hardware not being appropriate.
I've been back to Jimmy Connor's Tennis so many times, convinced there's a decent game in there, but if there is I'm still to find it... There's got to be some way of hitting the ball back, even if the original manual isn't giving it away! Glad I'm not the only one on Battle Lane too!
In agreement with all of them, except Jimmy Connor's Tennis. It's really hard, but once you get the controls, it can definitely be fun and I was able to beat it. I completely understand thinking it sucks though. 😄
I feel like the retro community just needs to finally admit that these “bat-and-ball” type games (Pong, Breakout, etc.) need some sort of paddle/dial controller to be a worthwhile re-release. Even the otherwise brilliant Atari 50 collection for the consoles suffers from this with many of the earlier games. And the touchscreen on the PS5 is a poor substitute for a knob to turn. On the same note, Night Driver is more fun with the Driving Controller (same as the paddle but spins freely). Without it, it’s just a waste of space.
I definitely wish we had controllers with a micro keyboard on the bottom (like the 360 keyboard addon) and a roller wheel maybe above the abxy buttons so we could tate mode the controller to use both hands to roll and press other buttons.
the auto racing game was unplayable on the original intellivision. I had it as a kid and it’s memories still induce rage at the awful controls. Love some Astro blaster and dungeons and dragons on intellivision though.
That Night Driver game has some pretty impressive visual effects for that system at that time, but it does look like it would be frustrating to actually play. I have played the Jim Power game, and it's another game that looks impressive for its time/hardware, but I had to use a save state every few feet to make it through, and there's no special ending to earn. The paralax scrolling is impressive, but can be nauseating. There are two other gameplay styles, but they're both just as frustrating if not more so.
I have never understood why Atari insists on putting paddle games onto their retro compilations. They do not work unless you have the original controls!!
Yeah this all makes sense. One note, they included the wrong version of Jim Power. The Amiga version had balanced difficulty and the parallax was not eye numbing. That's the version to play and it's not often I will say that, but emulate that and have a way better time.
Completely disagree with you regarding “Night Driver”. That was one of the funnest of the very early Atari games. The only reason it doesn’t seem interesting on the Evercade is because it requires paddles. “Night Driver” is nearly impossible using a joystick or D-pad.
Jim Power gets easy if you have a good memory and good reaction times the Amiga version is a wee bit more forgiving but I can see why if playing now it would be easy to give up on it but back when I was a poor wee lad one or two games a year you get good at playing what you do have lol totally agree with the rest you said.
In addition, Future Wars from the Delfine collection is imho also very unplayable cause it was made solely for mouse control. You will stuck right at the beginning of the game when you are in that room where the ceiling is descending on you and you have to enter a 4pin code which is alnost impossible with joypad.
Jim Power isn’t too bad if you take each level slowly (although I’ve yet to get off level 1!). It’s the arse about face parallax that does it for me. It’s dreadful.
I was surprised not to see Beast Wrestler on one of these lists for a change, lol! Maybe even Drakkhen since the SNES controls are a bit cumbersome... 😆
So what about Iron Commando? Haven't played the Evercade version but have played the AtGames Legends version. Bad controls, bad collision detection, basic moves and the game makes you fight for every inch gained. Nasty game.
@@CrazyBurger Do you not think it was repetitive and bland in the gameplay and had the feel of an unfinished, previously unreleased game? It may very well just be the AtGames Legend"s version that's off, but the games control doesn't seem like a good layout in the first place and other games run well enough on the At Games device, so why would that title be the exception? A lot of these previously unfinished and unreleased games, as well as hipster homebrew games flooding the market over recent years are running the risk of ruining the cultural legacy of some systems.
@@bigbabatunde1218 You might be right. It wasn't released outside Japan initially. I'm not saying its great, I found it OK but a little hard. There's better beat em ups on Evercade.
I’ve tried to go back and enjoy some of that Intellivision 2 cartridge but even the games that play decent are very poor imo, as for Auto Raver that game makes me want to get violent.I’ve completed Jim power on The Evercade and it’s a battle that required me to phone is sick to work the next day 😂
I beat Jim Powers for the first time on the Evercade mainly due to how easy it is to save. To call it unplayable is wrong. Is it hard? Yes,very. But the game is not broken and it works well. Clayfighter also works. Is it a good game? No, but it works. Please clarify. Unplayable usually means a game is broken in some way. Which Evercade are you using. The original with the button mapping works well.
Did you forget Beast Wrestler... 🤣 I think control style/labeling is often a hindrance at times: • Computer and arcade games tend to use joysticks. • Pong, Breakout and World Rally (1 & 2) would benefit from rotational analogue inputs. • The Intellivision uses a unique controller and the Commodores button layouts have been compromised due to keyboard control systems, so neither will feel "right" via a game pad. • Mega Drive controls feel odd as the A B C buttons should be in a line as opposed to the "V" formation of the equivalent X A B buttons. • Even NES games, you have to remember A and B swap between the game and Evercade menus, (unless you remap the B to X and A to A). I think the SNES and PS1 games suit the pad, which is pretty good as an overall controller in fairness; I guess that's the compromise with a multi platform emulsion system. As negative as this reply sounds, I don't regret getting the VS by any means. Maybe Showcase or Hyper Mega Tech may resolve some of these mild issues officially?
Lol Beast Wrestler is terrible but it's probably more playable than this lot. Some of these games are frustrating cause I recall playing Super Breakout on the 2600 a lot. And it was good!
All stars tennis is amazing. I played it for hours once I got good at it. Hard at first but after a while it clicked with me, it's quality. I went out and bought Pete Sampson thy mega drive. I think the 60htz on the evercade makes it much more difficult though. I've always had a soft spot for euro club soccer. One of my most played games on the evercade. Again, once it clicks. I've somehow managed to acquire three copies on the mega drive. 😂
right off the start, I disagree. Night Driver isn't great but it is playable. maybe you been to be over 40 to enjoy it? but the REST of your list makes sense. Paddle-games need paddles and some of the games are just bad [clay fighters is bogus]. thanks for the video
Sadly I have come to the view with the Evercade, which I love the console, but there needs to be better quality control over what is actually playable on the consoles. There are some games which play really well but many that are truly awful and should be left in the past. I think for those of us that remember the games when originally released, our glasses have somewhat rose coloured tints!
The only game I disagree with is Clayfighter because I was able to get used to it, Clayfighter 2 was way more unplayable to me personally. Other than that I agree with pretty much everything else.
15 “Unplayable” games. That quite high?! This seems like a thing that Blaze should start to banish from their selection process. Regardless of the game. Perhaps they play better on other systems, or with different controllers? But if you can’t get it to work in your system good. Then I think they really shouldn’t bother with them at all. But finally that game that we shall not mention. Finally gets a reprieve from “Crazy Burger Island”. No longer tarnished! 🤔😂
Jim power is close to being a good game but they mucked it up. It runs too fast. Play the megadrive prototype and it's much more playable as a more sedate pace.
Ah yeah, it's just not as playable as Amiga is it. It's unforgiving. I keep thinking it's my own fault for being poor at this one rather than the game being poor. It's much like the upcoming All Terrain Racing.. tough.
Evercade need to be releasing more carts in my opinion, the trickle of carts coming out quarterly is not enough given they have endless potential to release a wide range of retro games, it is leaving owners grasping at anything new which is announced, when really they have the ability to build a very strong ecosystem, no news on games for months and then announcement and then a longer wait until release is terrible for current owners. I also think if they have the ability now to be using giga carts then they should be utilising to full potential rather than 2 or 3 games, I mean the original tomb raiders for example cannot be any more than a few hundred mb each, so I don't know how much memory these carts hold but 1gb in this day and age is peanuts.
Duke nukem and worms collection is example of this, Duke could have been a single cartridge setup especially since they announced these giga carts were already in the making shortly after, but aain how much memory is a gigacart because it cannot really be that much if they only filled space for 3 of tomb raider games, 1gb max? Worms itself must be a very small mb game, they could have filled this cartridge with plenty of other games either from worms series or elsewhere, instead they opted to choose games which are easily available for cheaper on mobile and other platforms, very poor decision making, which will be looked back on as missed opportunities.
What’s going on with the curation on Evercade?! How could you knowingly put this amount of crap games out on the system? Especially when there’re old games and it should be known by now how bad they are
There is no "curation". Blaze just take any license they can get and try to pass it off as "preservation" as they are currently doing with Sword of Sodan.
Can't disagree with any of the choices. It would be nice if Evercade made some sort of paddle controller as that would fix so many of the issues (not that Night Driver will ever be a good game :-).
This is why I appreciate your channel - you call out the good, the bad and the ugly. Keeping Evercade honest and gamers informed!
Lol cheers, I try.
I'm quite glad that all of the games in this list (perhaps with the exception of Weaponlord?) are on there because they were just not very good games anyway and probably shouldn't have been included, rather than it being due to them being poor emulation or because of the hardware not being appropriate.
I've been back to Jimmy Connor's Tennis so many times, convinced there's a decent game in there, but if there is I'm still to find it... There's got to be some way of hitting the ball back, even if the original manual isn't giving it away! Glad I'm not the only one on Battle Lane too!
In agreement with all of them, except Jimmy Connor's Tennis. It's really hard, but once you get the controls, it can definitely be fun and I was able to beat it. I completely understand thinking it sucks though. 😄
Lol I'll take your word for it 🤣
I feel like the retro community just needs to finally admit that these “bat-and-ball” type games (Pong, Breakout, etc.) need some sort of paddle/dial controller to be a worthwhile re-release. Even the otherwise brilliant Atari 50 collection for the consoles suffers from this with many of the earlier games. And the touchscreen on the PS5 is a poor substitute for a knob to turn.
On the same note, Night Driver is more fun with the Driving Controller (same as the paddle but spins freely). Without it, it’s just a waste of space.
I definitely wish we had controllers with a micro keyboard on the bottom (like the 360 keyboard addon) and a roller wheel maybe above the abxy buttons so we could tate mode the controller to use both hands to roll and press other buttons.
the auto racing game was unplayable on the original intellivision. I had it as a kid and it’s memories still induce rage at the awful controls. Love some Astro blaster and dungeons and dragons on intellivision though.
I agree and at the same time, 35+ years later, had fun playing this game again. Controls were really special on Intellivision ;-)
That Night Driver game has some pretty impressive visual effects for that system at that time, but it does look like it would be frustrating to actually play. I have played the Jim Power game, and it's another game that looks impressive for its time/hardware, but I had to use a save state every few feet to make it through, and there's no special ending to earn. The paralax scrolling is impressive, but can be nauseating. There are two other gameplay styles, but they're both just as frustrating if not more so.
Jim Power is WAY better on Amiga, I wish that we'd gotten that version...
I have never understood why Atari insists on putting paddle games onto their retro compilations. They do not work unless you have the original controls!!
Maybe a trackball or paddle controller would help a lot of these games...
Yeah this all makes sense. One note, they included the wrong version of Jim Power. The Amiga version had balanced difficulty and the parallax was not eye numbing. That's the version to play and it's not often I will say that, but emulate that and have a way better time.
Completely disagree with you regarding “Night Driver”. That was one of the funnest of the very early Atari games. The only reason it doesn’t seem interesting on the Evercade is because it requires paddles. “Night Driver” is nearly impossible using a joystick or D-pad.
Jim Power gets easy if you have a good memory and good reaction times the Amiga version is a wee bit more forgiving but I can see why if playing now it would be easy to give up on it but back when I was a poor wee lad one or two games a year you get good at playing what you do have lol totally agree with the rest you said.
What different between blue red and purple cartridges? Thanks
Blue for home computer games such as Amiga, c64.. red for console N64, Megadrive etc and Purple for Arcade.
@@CrazyBurger gracias
In addition, Future Wars from the Delfine collection is imho also very unplayable cause it was made solely for mouse control. You will stuck right at the beginning of the game when you are in that room where the ceiling is descending on you and you have to enter a 4pin code which is alnost impossible with joypad.
@@marcofeibel1364 Agree but it is possible. Barely.
Jim Power isn’t too bad if you take each level slowly (although I’ve yet to get off level 1!). It’s the arse about face parallax that does it for me. It’s dreadful.
I was surprised not to see Beast Wrestler on one of these lists for a change, lol! Maybe even Drakkhen since the SNES controls are a bit cumbersome... 😆
Lol na those are playable to an extent..
@@CrazyBurger - Thanks for your vote of confidence...many would disagree, lol! 😆
@@JohnnyProctor9 lol now don't mistake this for me actually liking the game!
@@CrazyBurger - Only a small handful of people do I imagine...
@@JohnnyProctor9 lol yes, I know at least 2.
So what about Iron Commando? Haven't played the Evercade version but have played the AtGames Legends version. Bad controls, bad collision detection, basic moves and the game makes you fight for every inch gained.
Nasty game.
Mmm I actually quite liked that 😅
@@CrazyBurger Do you not think it was repetitive and bland in the gameplay and had the feel of an unfinished, previously unreleased game?
It may very well just be the AtGames Legend"s version that's off, but the games control doesn't seem like a good layout in the first place and other games run well enough on the At Games device, so why would that title be the exception?
A lot of these previously unfinished and unreleased games, as well as hipster homebrew games flooding the market over recent years are running the risk of ruining the cultural legacy of some systems.
@@bigbabatunde1218 You might be right. It wasn't released outside Japan initially. I'm not saying its great, I found it OK but a little hard. There's better beat em ups on Evercade.
@@CrazyBurger Coffee Crisis not one of them then? 😀
@@bigbabatunde1218 lol oh no. I find that game to be awful. Great design but poor game mechanics.
I’ve tried to go back and enjoy some of that Intellivision 2 cartridge but even the games that play decent are very poor imo, as for Auto Raver that game makes me want to get violent.I’ve completed Jim power on The Evercade and it’s a battle that required me to phone is sick to work the next day 😂
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I beat Jim Powers for the first time on the Evercade mainly due to how easy it is to save. To call it unplayable is wrong. Is it hard? Yes,very. But the game is not broken and it works well. Clayfighter also works. Is it a good game? No, but it works. Please clarify. Unplayable usually means a game is broken in some way. Which Evercade are you using. The original with the button mapping works well.
You are taking this all too literal. Only my opinion. Just as you have conveyed yours. You clearly have much more patience than I do for these games.
Night Driver plays WAY better on Evercade than it did on the AtGames Atari Flashback units though...
Any game that was originally created for use with a paddle/spinner or trackball is unplayable on a joystick/analog stick/D-pad.
Centipede is pretty decent on most consoles
Did you forget Beast Wrestler... 🤣
I think control style/labeling is often a hindrance at times:
• Computer and arcade games tend to use joysticks.
• Pong, Breakout and World Rally (1 & 2) would benefit from rotational analogue inputs.
• The Intellivision uses a unique controller and the Commodores button layouts have been compromised due to keyboard control systems, so neither will feel "right" via a game pad.
• Mega Drive controls feel odd as the A B C buttons should be in a line as opposed to the "V" formation of the equivalent X A B buttons.
• Even NES games, you have to remember A and B swap between the game and Evercade menus, (unless you remap the B to X and A to A).
I think the SNES and PS1 games suit the pad, which is pretty good as an overall controller in fairness; I guess that's the compromise with a multi platform emulsion system. As negative as this reply sounds, I don't regret getting the VS by any means. Maybe Showcase or Hyper Mega Tech may resolve some of these mild issues officially?
Lol Beast Wrestler is terrible but it's probably more playable than this lot. Some of these games are frustrating cause I recall playing Super Breakout on the 2600 a lot. And it was good!
To be fair... Clayfighter and Weaponlord played like ass on their respective systems as well xD.
the chess game is the worst
It's a painful experience
All stars tennis is amazing. I played it for hours once I got good at it. Hard at first but after a while it clicked with me, it's quality. I went out and bought Pete Sampson thy mega drive. I think the 60htz on the evercade makes it much more difficult though. I've always had a soft spot for euro club soccer. One of my most played games on the evercade. Again, once it clicks. I've somehow managed to acquire three copies on the mega drive. 😂
Lol 3 copies?! I'm sure this game comes under many names.
right off the start, I disagree. Night Driver isn't great but it is playable. maybe you been to be over 40 to enjoy it? but the REST of your list makes sense. Paddle-games need paddles and some of the games are just bad [clay fighters is bogus]. thanks for the video
Lol I'm 46!!
On the original console maybe but anything else wouldn't work most likely
Sadly I have come to the view with the Evercade, which I love the console, but there needs to be better quality control over what is actually playable on the consoles. There are some games which play really well but many that are truly awful and should be left in the past. I think for those of us that remember the games when originally released, our glasses have somewhat rose coloured tints!
Surprised Movie Monster Game on C64 Collection 1 escaped your wrath this time.
Lol terrible game..probably just about playable though.
Yeah, almost Hero is really bad.
They should have taken another Game, but i haven't tested much of the Module so far, Multidude is just good haha...
The only game I disagree with is Clayfighter because I was able to get used to it, Clayfighter 2 was way more unplayable to me personally. Other than that I agree with pretty much everything else.
Jim power genesis version was better with an extra hit point and more forgiving controls
15 “Unplayable” games. That quite high?! This seems like a thing that Blaze should start to banish from their selection process. Regardless of the game. Perhaps they play better on other systems, or with different controllers? But if you can’t get it to work in your system good. Then I think they really shouldn’t bother with them at all. But finally that game that we shall not mention. Finally gets a reprieve from “Crazy Burger Island”. No longer tarnished! 🤔😂
Lol I know the one you mean.. but yeah it was spared from this list. 😏 Wait till you play Sword of Sodan.. absolute garbage.
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Jim Power was potentially a great game totally ruined by the dodgy jumping, super fast enemies and offputting parallax scrolling.
Clay fighter isn't unplayable, it's just a bit rubbish
You forgot the one game that is literally unplayable, "Hoops 2" which crashes if you try to play a tournament?
Wow.. I didn't know that
...and still they show no interest in fixing it.
@@obsoleteworlds They can't, they lost the license.
Jim power is close to being a good game but they mucked it up. It runs too fast. Play the megadrive prototype and it's much more playable as a more sedate pace.
Interesting.. its got all the right ingredients for a good game but its just horrible to play.
There is a full version of Jim Powers for Megadrive, Funstock sold out a couple of years back.
Surprised Super Skidmarks didn't make the grade.
Ah yeah, it's just not as playable as Amiga is it. It's unforgiving. I keep thinking it's my own fault for being poor at this one rather than the game being poor. It's much like the upcoming All Terrain Racing.. tough.
I agree with Tennis all stars, had it on the Mega Drive when it was Pete Sampras Tennis and it was great but for some reason this version is awful
There's something completely wrong with it, definitely feels broken. I dont recall pete sampras tennis being this bad.
Evercade need to be releasing more carts in my opinion, the trickle of carts coming out quarterly is not enough given they have endless potential to release a wide range of retro games, it is leaving owners grasping at anything new which is announced, when really they have the ability to build a very strong ecosystem, no news on games for months and then announcement and then a longer wait until release is terrible for current owners. I also think if they have the ability now to be using giga carts then they should be utilising to full potential rather than 2 or 3 games, I mean the original tomb raiders for example cannot be any more than a few hundred mb each, so I don't know how much memory these carts hold but 1gb in this day and age is peanuts.
Duke nukem and worms collection is example of this, Duke could have been a single cartridge setup especially since they announced these giga carts were already in the making shortly after, but aain how much memory is a gigacart because it cannot really be that much if they only filled space for 3 of tomb raider games, 1gb max? Worms itself must be a very small mb game, they could have filled this cartridge with plenty of other games either from worms series or elsewhere, instead they opted to choose games which are easily available for cheaper on mobile and other platforms, very poor decision making, which will be looked back on as missed opportunities.
What’s going on with the curation on Evercade?! How could you knowingly put this amount of crap games out on the system? Especially when there’re old games and it should be known by now how bad they are
To be honest there's probably more poor games that actual great ones
There is no "curation". Blaze just take any license they can get and try to pass it off as "preservation" as they are currently doing with Sword of Sodan.
BurgerTime is the worst on Evercade
How to they screw up PONG?!? LOL!!! 😆
Bro why there are so much cool games that are unplayable
Lol not fault 🤣
@@CrazyBurger bro thats very bad cause why these cool games why :(
Almost Hero has some of the worst gameplay i've seen in a very long time.
Can't disagree with any of the choices. It would be nice if Evercade made some sort of paddle controller as that would fix so many of the issues (not that Night Driver will ever be a good game :-).
They look great those evercade carts but let's face it, most of it is garbage. Why frustrate yourself with something that was terrible in 1978?
You don't need to play every game you know.