Your Worst Marvel Opinion
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- After two DC videos in a row, we're back on Marvel baby. In a TH-cam community post, I asked you guys what your unpopular/controversial Marvel opinions are, and I'm here to talk about it. This covers stuff from the X-Men movies, to Miles Morales, to Thanos. A lotta good stuff (or bad stuff).
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What are your controversial Marvel opinions? Thoughts on that last opinion? DC Opinions eventually? Am I loved? Are we all alone? You will die.
"Spider-Man 2 is the worst raimi movie" ❌
"Spider-Man 3 is the best raimi movie"✅
"Every home trilogy Spider-Man movie is better than any raimi Spider-Man movie."❌
"I hate Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man"❌
"I don't really like Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man"❌
"Tom Holland is the best Spider-Man"❌
"Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone are not cute, but Tom and Zendaya are." I think both couples are cute Imo.
"I don't like the TASM2 suit."❌
"I like the suit at the end of No Way Home."✅
X men days of future past is more enjoyable than Logan. Maybe it's my personal preference but I'd prefer not to get depressed while watching a movie, even if it is good. Same reason I don't enjoy the bear, too much stress.
No one cares about Kamal Khan. And the way that marvel tries to uplift the Inhumans over Mutants is trash. Also why are they pushing Kamala on the X-men now smh.
bruh the end of your comment is dark💀
@@ASH_EDITZ_OFFICIAL thank you mr. obvious💀
Wanna hear a real hot take? If Green Lantern was released today exactly how it was back in 2011, people would defend it to the grave. All the reasons people hated it are common practice in super hero movie making today
I think it's overhated af.... sure the movie has flaws but it doesn't warrant the hate that it gets there are a lot of comic book movies worse than it but this still gets bashed for some reason.... also bonus point this movie did the "courage stems from fear" before The Dark Knight Rises
@@pradeepdungdung4379 Yeah, it did it before the third movie in a trilogy about accepting fear and rising from it.
Green Lantern is one of those movies where it’s not bad for the 1st act but gets terrible in the 3rd
you're probably exactly right. people are out there defending quantumania, the marvels, eternals, even MoM. what baffles me is that those same people will go back to dog on Thor TDW. That movie isn't the best out there but it's unironically better written than any movie to come out post IW
@@puggietaur you can't be serious about that part about Thor TDW 😂
Kamala Khan in the MCU is a very fun, interesting, and relatable (at least in my opinion) character. She's just a fangirl who spends her time with her head in the clouds and is obsessed with the heroes within that universe (mostly Captain Marvel).
I can say that I can kind of relate to her in that sense. I kinda spend my time with my head in the clouds and sort of obsessing over the heroes (Mostly Iron Man or Spider-Man) I love aswell and just wishing I could just live in that fictitious world.
yeah but i really hated her because she was always taking the fangirling too seriously it was just so cringy. i know thats how shes like in the comics but like it was so annoying trying to watch
I think that's just Iman's charisma. The character's one note.
I know you were just roasting my 140 page manifesto to not make the others jealous that I'm the only one you agreed with. We're still friends, see you at the poker game on Saturday.
ayy you based man
REAL
Good fresh new character that stuck around is Gwenpool. She is in Fortnite and her pet Jeff the Landshark is in Marvel Rivals. And she is very likeable character most of the time.
Based opinion, one of my favorite inside jokes of the past 10 years of comics history is where kitty pride randomly shows up and gwenpool thinks her book is being written by brian michael bendis
Gwenpool needs her own movie. It could be the MCU equivalent to The Naked Gun or Spaceballs.
@@mungdaal9643 Let's just hope that they don't misunderstand her character like most writers if it ever happens.
I loved Unbelievable Gwenpool, one of my favorite runs of the 2010's.
Also she's one of, if not the only confirmed aroace characters at Marvel!
Underrated marvel movies (imo)
- Iron Man 2
- Thor
- Iron Man 3
- Doctor Strange
- The Falcon and the Winter Solider
- Eternals
- Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Thor is really good. I didn’t like Thor: Ragnarok because the humor didn’t fit the other movies, Thor isn’t supposed to be an iron man or guardians movie. My ranking of the films go:
1.) Thor
2.) Thor: The Dark World
3.) Thor: Ragnarok
4.) Thor: LOT
@@Rock-Child yeah I totally get where you’re coming from. In my ranking, Dark World and Ragnarok are swapped. I really liked Ragnarok but I wasn’t a fan of the visuals at times and some of the humor was a bit much. I despise Love and Thunder though. Terrible movie.
Black Panther 2 is not underrated.
@@averagejoe77_ I think the MCU did Thor as dirty as they treated the hulk. He isn’t a god, he’s an alien. He doesn’t speak in epic Shakespearean language, he talks normal. He isn’t wise from thousands of years, he’s actually really dumb. A real waste of a great character.
@@Derp-rz1nn I really liked it. Flagsmashers were awful tho
I stand by this, the incredible Hulk is a damn good movie and Edward Norton is a better Bruce Banner than Mark Ruffalo.
I stand with u bro
I’ve been saying this for the past 16 years 😂
Valid. If Ruffalo was actually given a solo Hulk movie to show his abilities to play the character in the center spotlight, then maybe I would have stronger feelings about that version. But I just never have.
but let's be honest, his asshole behaviour wouldn't have made it far in disney... but he's a great actor!!
@@andaelee *GASP* Profanity!!!
Quicksilver had so much potential if they didn't just kill him off. That was one of the worst things they did in the legendary Infinity Saga. I understand what it's trying to do for Wanda but I feel like it was just so stupid
Yayyyy, thanks for featuring my comment! I will say that the fact that I find him more interesting in Endgame is definitely a personal preference, but I definitely think people are being unfair when they say he's acting out of character in Endgame. I just think that Thanos's justification for killing half of all life was already so half-baked and it was really more about pettiness since he mostly just wanted to prove that he was right about his planet. And also he clearly just enjoys murder, as mush as he says that he does it dispassionately or that he doesn't enjoy it, he's clearly just a sociopath. So in Endgame I see him as just being more honest. He's no longer framing his conquering the univers and murdering trillions as a humanitarian effort. He literally says he's going to enjoy genociding Earth. And that's who he's always been, and I just find that more entertaining.
I ain’t reading allat
@@Visi0nssdang sorry to hear about your tiktok attention span
Honestly, that could've been interesting. Thanos is lying through omission, and we, the audience, almost believed him in *Avengers: Infinity War.*
I def prefer him in IW but you're correct actually. Thanos was a cult leader basically. He only drank his own BS when he killed Gamora, only then he's convinced he's truly noble.
To be fair, Bane and Harley Quinn were both introduced in the 90’s and are now both A list Batman characters that are everywhere and sell a shit ton in merchandise. So new characters like Miles (comics, not spiderverse/insomniac) don’t have excuses to be lame
Fantastic 4 2005 is not that bad, though... the sequel is even better. Those movies truly are overhated, you can have a very good time with them despite all the flaws.
Only bad thing about the second was the gas cloud that's supposed to be "Galactus"
I liked those movies when I was like 5 but I started reading the comics when I was 8 and it wasn't the same. Once you read the FF in the comics, it's hard to go back to the movies where the story is less interesting, the settings are less adventurous, the villains are terrible and the FF themselves feel so flat and one dimensional compared to what the comics offer. I still find them fun but I'll never enjoy them how I did when I was a little little kid because they feel very superficial once you've seen how good the Fantastic Four actually can be with the right passion and understanding of the concept.
I hate all these FF movies made after 2000.
They ruined by favorite villain, Dr.Doom. There they completly removed his backstory and made him pure evil. Also this no needed romance with Invisiblewoman and removed his magic abilities
Another hottake, spider man 2 for playstayion wasn't the greatest. They completly butchered Venom and Scream was defeated to fast.
Give my boys Dr.Doom & Venom some respect
Omg thanks so much for including me in that vid, keep being gas just like quantamanian
Hot take kind of and this is DC related Ben Affleck was actually a very good Batman, he had the look and everything, the problem was bad universe building.
I gotta back this one too. I really felt the Wayne gravitas and convictions within him.
I just want to say bro, that i love ur content men, keep it up! (avengers age of ultron is under rated and over hated fmo)
The most recent Miles Morales comic run was actually quite good imo
3:54 Endgame Thanos was what Endgame needed him to be. After all the substance we needed spectacle, comeuppance, an antagonist to beat. And that's okay. But saying that Endgame Thanos is better because he's got less layers is ignoring you only want to see that Thanos there because you've already went through an emotional rollercoaster with Infinity War Thanos...
I liked the FF movies when I was like 5 but I started reading the comics when I was 8 and it wasn't the same. Once you read the FF in the comics, it's hard to go back to the movies where the story is less interesting, the settings are less adventurous, the villains are terrible and the FF themselves feel so flat and one dimensional compared to what the comics offer. I still find them fun but I'll never enjoy them how I did when I was a little little kid because they feel very superficial once you've seen how good the Fantastic Four actually can be with the right passion and understanding of the concept.
My hot take is that Thor: The dark world isn't actually that bad. It seemed boring and dull but I really like how they dove into the nine realms more and gave thor a great godlike presence on screen. Not a great movie but not bad at all.
Bro that movie is not bad compared to fan4stic the worst Marvel movie ever made
On the other hand Ragnarok is overrated
@@ahmedaziz8660 bro you are tweakin
Imma have to disagree. I watched that film three times and as much as the concept is interesting, it was very boring imo. At least Love and Thunder was interesting and kept me awake. But, to each their own.
@@Mr.Starpop The dark world is a little slow, but its infinitley better than love and thunder. Love and thunder felt like taika waititi went to a kindergarten class and asked what they wanted to put in a thor movie and just ran with that.
7:59 i think he could have super speed, but maybe not super reaction time. So, if he needed to get from one end of an empty field to another, he could, but if he needed to navigate through hordes of people, he would risk killing them
The guy from the video here: be quiet liberal
I kinda enjoyed New Mutants, and if people want to complain about whitewashing Sunspot, they should complain about DoFP; NM just kept continuity with previous casting.
(also, Illyana's Russian, she probably had no idea that she was saying something offensive when she was insulting Dani)
Multiverse of Madness is better than Doctor Strange 1. it is a great movie.
facts, Dr.Strange also used more magic in 2nd movie
GET OUT!
As much as there are a fuckton of flaws of MoM, I do agree.
MoM, at its best, at least feels like Raimi's. Dr. Strange 1 was just a generic MCU flick.
My superhero hot take, that so far no one has agreed with is that Kamala Khan is a pointless, empty and shallow character, whose trope was done better with other characters before and after her.
I think Marvel should give Mar-Vell another chance as Captain Marvel, Carol Danvers should return to being Ms. Marvel, and Kamala Khan should either be rewritten as an actual character, or just forgotten and replaced by any of the much better characters who share the same characteristics as her.
Last one feel like it was written by chat gpt
I wrote that mister.
@@kittenscarrotsandmore1636 chatgpt?
@@kittenscarrotsandmore1636 bro is just another tom holland simp, she went to watch spider-man just for him
@@CAPTAINRACCOON295 “she”
@@kittenscarrotsandmore1636lol...u r so cute man🧸
You should watch/read League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Comic is written by Alan Moore he is writer of Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Batman: The Killing Joke. Movie isn't a good as comics but it is Sean Connery's last performance.
Never let bro cook again😭
Love your videos man please keep it up ❤
My controversial opinion is that red hood is wasted potential character because after is his under the red hood arc he didn't really do anything that special except for having the outlaws run witch was decent(also battle for the cowl and task force z).I do like red hood but he's always running in circles with where hes going as a character like he'll be a villan,anti hero,hero,anti hero then hero then the cycle just goes on and on.I also think that red hood works best as a anti hero but has he potential to be a really good hero and thats something i'd like 2 see more of and i don't think red hood as a villan suits his character because it defeats the purpose of what he's suppose 2 be and the type of person jason todd is
This is just true, DC has no idea what to do with Jason
8:59 You can’t count how many times I said “HELL NAH”
Frrrr
I mean I'm not gonna lie I really enjoy TASM 1, it may be in my top 5 spider-man movies (including sv), but the raimi films are the foundation of what we know to be marvel films today. Yes it's cheesy and less gritty than a lot of other marvel projects. THATS A GOOD THING!!! Also the cinematography and performances in those films are stellar, and Molina and Dafoe have played 2 of the most iconic villains in all of comic book movie history.
Congratulations for the 10k subs
11k
Black leather X-Men suits fit the original two films perfectly. They're just kind of weirdly padded
Thor 1 is the best Thor movie.
_I said what I said._
Thor's inner journey and arc was so compelling and very personal to the character, as was the brotherly turned hero vs. villain dynamic between him and Loki. The Shakespearian air in both dialogue and story gave all the characters such flavor, but they've since been sanitized and stripped of this in order to be more...common, I guess? It's like Marvel saw the surprise success of Guardians of the Galaxy and since then every character is required to have Guardianesque moments.
Both Thor and Loki are shadows of their former selves and are not better for it. They were at their greatest and most interesting in their introductive film, and if the sequel did anything right, I'm glad they were at least able to carry over and retain some of that compelling Shakespearian aura in The Dark World. Let Tony Stark lampoon and quip "Doth mother know you weareth her drapes?" all he wants, Thor was great the way he was.
All the Marvel movies are now trying to outdo themselves, but bigger doesn't always mean better. I _love_ the very intimate, "small" feel of the first Thor, that's what actually makes it one of the most absorbing Marvel movies for me. Less can be more.
You are getting decent views, keep creating more videos man♥️
I agree with the last one tbh. Maybe just cuz I don’t have any nostalgia for them? I’m just not a huge fan of
I do have nostalgia and I like them, but honestly it's only because of the nostalgia, I can still recognize that they're bad and I wish that wasn't such a hot take
@@dojindoridon’t speak so objectively, it’s not that you can recognize that they’re bad it’s that you can recognize that YOU think they’re bad
It’s a hot take because they’re OBJECTIVELY well made movies with defined arcs a lot of people find compelling. Also directed by one of the most creative dudes working today. U can hate on the acting, the cheesiness, whatever but at the end of the day that’s all intentional. TASM is a mess of studio interference and failed world building, and that, again, is objective. And Disney is a focus board driven product meant to appeal the largest amount of people. But like what u like.
@@Ansharky3 k
i enjoy your content man. keep it up 👍👍
6:11 I agree, but I think excitement isn't the feeling I personally like in my average movies. Its not that excitement is bad, but tension, drama and tragedy are so much better. Thats why I hate Deadpool 2,
Agreed, I would love dp 2 so much more if they also didn't undo every single peak dramatic moment in the post credit scenes
@@broimvengeance Especially when Deadpool literally goes into the past to undo his wife's death, making the whole movie useless
@@PauTheDeo Exactly.
The last one 😂!!
Love your videos
You know people can have opinions right.
You know people can have opinions about opinions right?
My hot take: Thor is a good movie, not a lot happens but I like that it’s just chill and enjoyable to watch
I missed the post but my hot take is Spider-Man 3 is overrated. I think the main reason it gets held in the same regard as the other two is because of nostalgia. It’s not nearly as good as Spider-Man 1 and 2. If it was part of either of the other Spider-Man movie trilogies it wouldn’t get the same praise it does. It’s by no means an awful movie but it’s mid.
Fax
Bro, SM3 was kinda hated when it was released. The Bully Maguire memes are what redeemed it.
3:26 How to be single caught me off guard LOL
The last one didn't just grinded my gears, it broke off
8:26 it was gas, it was just German gas.
Funny mustache man refrence
The first 20 minutes in this movie is really good and the gambit part after that everything just falls apart and the only way it could’ve been redeemed would be if we found out at the end of the movie the entire thing was a memory implant.
Idk about top 20 but Fantastic Four & Rise of Silver Surfer are fun films
I enjoyed Black Widow
ok
Age of Ultron is goated
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Underrated Mcu films:
-The Incredible Hulk
-Age of Ultron
-Iron man 3
Another banger video ofc ofc
I watched AoU today, and I genuinely really like it. From start to finish, there is no shortage of action. Ultron, despite being underwhelming when compared to the comics, is really entertaining. It did the whole "evil AI" story before that became super popular. It was the best use-case and version of the Hulkbuster suit, and the scene it was in also perfectly portrayed the genuine brutality of the Hulk and the danger he poses to civilians. Some parts definitely felt like they just got pulled out of nowhere for the fun of it, and others felt rushed. Overall, I'd give the movie a solid 7.5 - maybe an 8 - out of 10
I think age of Ultron is a great movie and the last scene with Ultron and vision is absolutely perfect
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When it comes to the last opinion, I agree that the final swing suit at the end of no way home is good
HOT TAKE: SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME IS THE BEST COMIC BOOK MOVIE OF ALL TIME!!!
I second this take!
Nah...
No
1:46 GENUINELY WHAT IS HE DOING 😭😭😭
4:15 preach brother!
I ain’t reading allat
@@Qui-GonJinn1234 it’s 2 words??
I missed the post, but my hot take is, Days of Future Past is overrated asf, its like a 7/10 i like it, but its not all that
get out
@@andaelee respectively no, I love your videos and I don't wanna miss them 😢
Naw he shouldn’t be kicked out of the community, unless he’s trans.
@@andaeleeidk why x men 97 made a morph a pdfile that calls himself a them.
@@andaeleesad that x men morph is an edp now going by them/they.
spiderman ffh is better than homecoming and nwh
This opinion is so rare these days but I agree whole-heartedly
X-men origins Wolverine was only made so that we could get the banger video game
Can you do a video on what your favorite dc villain says about you?
In my opinion you can't say if a movie is good or bad. It's defined by the majority but you cansay if you like it or not.
5:26 the subtitles be so random sometimes
I love how you ask for everyone’s hot takes, and then just completely bash all of them in this video
Love your videos thank you so much for reacting to my comment
The miles argument pretty much aplies to any comic book character with multiple versions. It just boils down to who is writting him.
Hot take: best superhero scene in the mcu is ironman 3 saving the passengers from falling out of the plane. Exactly what i like from superheroes
the thumbnail is somewhwt reasonable
All imma say is that imo secret invasion isn’t bad and I would argue that it was really good but it’s hated more because it fell short of what it could’ve been and If it wasn’t titled ‘secret invasion’ then it would’ve been pretty well received.
8:39 ok so we already know that this guy likes bad movies like alvin and the chipmunks and he only likes modern stuff
I can kinda agree with the last one. I love Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield but I don't feel that much love for Spiderman 2 and the hate for Spiderman 3 but overall this guy was just rage baiting.
Unpopular opinion:
The moon knight show is one of the worst in the MCU, I mainly say this being a fan of him in the comics
Tasm is the best Spiderman Movie
I agree. His origin wasn’t exactly in sync with what most people associate with the character, but I think changing it up a bit is best anyway so we’re not just recycling the same old ideas
@@RafelChipthose ideas are recycled because they're good. Change for changes sake isn't a good thing.
Well, I kinda disagree that X-Men Origins isn't as bad as what people say, and I also definitely do agree about Miles... BUT! The last one about Tom's Spidey... That's just straight facts, my dudes. STRONGLY, HIGHLY, DEFINITELY, ABSOLUTELY agree!
My Hot Take: Blue Beetle is nothing more than DC's desperate attempt to have a Spider-Man type character. DC already has an answer to Spider-Man with Static Shock, but continues to stupidly ignore him .
Blue Beetle felt like an Ironman ripoff to me, like Blue Beetle’s Main Villain wants the hero’s technology, so can she profit out of it as a weapon of war, really sounds like Obadiah Stane to me
I will say I think the Rami movies are mostly heralded as the best due to nostalgia.
i rewatched origins after some years and remember actually kinda enjoying it but man it was way worse than i remember after the rewatch
I am taking a dump and this video had me Locked in I forgot to poop
Ever since I was like 8, maybe 10 I’ve always thought Iron Man 2 and the Incredible Hulk get way too much shit. They’re not peak cinema, but they also don’t deserve the hate that they get. people talk about them like it gave their mom cancer on Christmas. they’re fun movies and deserve some love
Good day! First, to answer your question, I disagree with the commenter about Raimi Spider-man. I'm gonna get back to you in a massive novel comment about X-Men Origins Wolverine being my all time favorite movie the one time I saw it but I, like the commenter, just thought it was mid. Maybe it is below, like you said, but I've only seen it once and don't care to watch it again. However, I generally don't like re-watching any movies even if they're amazing.
Not my favorite, but in an attempt to be impartial with my wacky criteria, and I'm not set on these especially the last few, but these are my current picks for top 5 greatest-
1 Incredibles 10/10 Self-sacrificial loving family heroic excellence! 'Nuff said. People compared it to Fantastic Four, and after finally finishing the original 1961 Stan Lee reading it over the past seven years loosing...squirrel I much preferred the Incredibles/Parr family to Marvel's first Fantastic family (I also prefer the Powerpuff Girls' villain Mojo Jo Jo to Dr. Doom), and thought it was a better version of Watchmen. Even though Wall-E was my favorite Pixar, I think this is the best animated movie I've ever seen.
2. Spider-man 2 9/10- With great power there must also come great responsibility, and an amazing train sequence! The romance writing and directing was the rough patch. This captured the self-sacrificial heroics with sweet visuals and humor!
For me the 90s TAS Spider-man for Peter and the 2008 Spectacular Spider-man cartoon for Mary Jane are the truest adaptations to the spirit of characterizations for those characters overall, and the car thief scene in the first Amazing Spider-man is the most accurate to the spirit of the character but I thought Peter was poorly developed (Gwen was great though! And so was Aunt May and Uncle Ben! Best Uncle Ben ever imo! I prefer him to the comics) but, imo, Spider-man 2 is the greatest comic book adaptation I ever saw (and I saw non-superhero comic book movies like Old Boy, American Splendor, Ghost World, V for Vendetta, History of Violence, The Crow, Snowpiercer, Sin City....I'm not recommending them!).
3. Avengers 8/10- Imo the aesthetic and performances could have used some work (wish Chris Hemsworth brought his higher caliber performance from Rush (2013) and some of the wit could have been toned down a bit, and some of the action wasn't very clear like Thor's trading blows with Loki, but I think the character writing was great, and it was wonderful with the themes of self-sacrificial love, friendship, true freedom, redemption, and valuing the dignity of life illustrating how every single person's life is a priceless precious gift...that's a reason I consider It's a Wonderful Life the greatest movie of all time!
4. Batman Begins 8/10- imo, if Bruce said something like "I won't kill you, and I'm sorry that I couldn't save you, Ra's", it would have tied things better thematically, without our hero coming across as still wanting revenge like in his earlier conversation with Rachael. He came across as petty. And speaking of Rachael, I thought she was good character being Bruce's Jiminy Cricket potential better half (which helped with Bruce's noble heroic self-sacrificial choice) with her moral standards humbling him such as with his playboy cover (I don't think it's surprising why comic book Robin grew up to be more promiscuous as Nightwing like in Marv Wolfman's and Chuck Dixon's comics since I'd think it might have been confusing....but I never finished all of Bill Finger's and Bob Kane's 1930s comic run...I read around 100 issues though); however, while her acting was fine, I just thought Katie Holmes needed a bit more gravitas to match Christian Bale for chemistry but it was still way better than...
5. The Dark Knight 8/10- Maggie Gyllenhaal lacked chemistry with Christian Bale and Aaron Eckhart, and her character made it rough to get dramatically immersed with Bruce's heartbreak. Also, imo there was weak camera work (remember the introduction scene with Batman, Harvey, and Gordon- imo it undermines Batman making him appear so small in comparison where I don't think it was a foreshadowing visual cue to show how he's a heroic humble self-sacrificial servant to justice) and cheap supporting acting in comparison to Heath Ledger, Christian Bale, and Aaron Eckhart. Regardless, imo Joker is one of the greatest cinematic characters of all time. Basically a classier version of JD from Heathers...though I think JD might have been better developed but that was more of an intimate story. And TDK had the greatest illustration of the theme of escalation in film imo (surpassed Heat, even though, imo, that movie wasn't as flawed). Beautiful visuals at times. Fantastic use of levity. Great action. Music is chef's kiss! So many culturally influential scenes that we'll be referencing for all time.
ok, I'll be back! I know my posts aren't easy to read with how much I ramble but this is my Lloyd Christmas "So you're saying there's a chance" optimistic philosophy:
“Gandalf put his hand on Pippin's head. "There never was much hope," he answered. "Just a fool's hope, as I have been told.”
-J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
Hope you have a really good day, and thanks for your thoughts!
Kept you wait'n, huh? (*sniff* I'm overly optimistic for anyone who reads my ramblings). Just found you because of your what does your favorite superhero say about you videos, and a reason I thought Deadpool, not movie version, well, yeah maybe but just X-Men Origins Wolverine and the animated Hulk vs Wolverine animated movie (I think of my friends with the "talking man huuuurt Hulk...Hulk riiip offf talking man's HEAD!" and Deadpool's response, "my head?" since apparently I'm a chatterbox? The nerve! I get asked a question and then I go on answer and they want be to shaddup! I don't get it? rude!)
With X-Men Origins Wolverine, I think I liked it out of desperation for a live action Deadpool that was, relatively clean, so I was so happy just getting the sword deflecting scene, and then I liked the scene with Wolverine and the old couple just once again losing people he just opened his heart to along with the convoluted complex wackiness (Metal Gear Solid 3 was my childhood favorite pop-culture anything and MGS was favorite franchise which was pretty out there and not so well written so I've liked that kinda stuff since childhood!), which was underdeveloped and the visuals like the cg claws weren't so hot (though maybe still metaphorically more hot than Wolverine's 2018 Hot Claws since that's when I stopped read all new x-men comics, literally but not the literal Brian Michael Bendis "All New X-Men" since I stopped with the 2014 comics) , but for my Wolverine fandom, I remembered they captured the spirit of the characterization better there then any live action movie besides, from memory, the first X-Men film.
I didn't care for the Deadpool/Wolverine trailers using "Like a Prayer" by Madonna, which is a blasphemous metaphorical song and imo the Deadpool/Wolverine "Alpha" trailer further shows what creators think of our culture with Deadpool saying, "Let's give the people what they came for," and then ending with "Get your special sock out nerds, it's going to be good," which is imo perverse pandering, revealing the hearts of minds of our culture.
90s comic Deadpool was my favorite fictional character besides Dragon Ball's Son Goku where I interpreted them as kind of two sides to the same coin, except Goku's on the good side, though perceived as a clown, was a jovial secure-in-himself grateful peaceful light for others to help their redemption, with his downfall spiritual warfare struggle being his pride, and Deadpool having a similar struggle but he's on the villainous side depressed insecure pity party tormented clown in desperate need of a light to help with his redemption which at the end of the 1997 Joe Kelly's interpretation he changed from villain to anti-hero.
I read every appearance from his 1991 New Mutants debut to somewhere in the 2000s and kept trying over and over after that jumping around to different runs, but the 1997 Joe Kelly and Mark Waid's runs are the reason why he was my favorite and I didn't care for much after that, including anything written by Joe Kelly, because I think they glorified wrath/lust/pride going against what I liked, so I wish they never continued anything after that. For me, imo, he later became more like a trashy version of John Bryne's She-Hulk who had fourth wall breaking built into her psyche more than Deadpool who, imo, was more similar to Spider-man and Thing breaking the fourth wall in the Stan Lee 1960s comics, which I think was more narrative fun for readers as opposed to part of the characterizations.
However, the Frank Tieri Agent of Weapon X Deapool is my all time favorite superhero costume and Rick Remender's Uncanny X-Force was my favorite recent comic run besides Geoff Johns' Wally West Flash (glad to hear him mentioned here!), and it could have been my favorite Deadpool, except I didn't care for when he gives a kid dirty magazines because, not only is it imo contradictory to the thematic characterization that was set up between him and Wolverine, showing how much Logan had fallen where even though Logan was a character who gave into wrath and lust, he wanted to defend the innocence of others, and imo, Deadpool was giving him perspective being the better man, and the way Joe Kelly originally characterized Deadpool was a lapsed Catholic who I think would know better, despite not applying it to himself since he was a villain.
I appreciated how Joe Kelly's 1997 villain to anti-hero Deadpool was written as a villainous lapsed Catholic, and while not on the same quality level but I remembered it being media respectful to Christianity like The Godfather (even though it's showing villains), Ben Hur, Babette's Feast, Prince of Egypt, X-Men TAS, Raimi Spider-man, Sound of Music, The Passion of Joan of Arc, Passion of the Christ, Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns (it brought up the Catholic Church's stance that contraception is a mortal sin), Steve Englehart's Batman, and Chuck Dixon's Nightwing, and avatar and my banner is inspired by Joe Kelly's 1997 redemption Deadpool and redemption Space Ghost comics....unfortunately, my memory sincerely stinks so...at least I remembered it being about redemption. Regardless, Happy 30th Space Ghost Coast to Coast anniversary!
It was one of the comic runs that pulled on my heartstrings the most when I was younger besides Ann Nocenti's Daredevil and Denny O'Neil's Iron Man, which if I remember correctly, all having to do with redemption and all promiscuous characters, but I don't think the narrative glorified it. Ann Nocenti's imo amazing villain Typhoid Mary played on Daredevil/Matt Murdock's lust where he cheated with her on his girlfriend Karen Page, and in Joe Kelly's Deadpool run, Typhoid uses an image inducer to pretend to be Deadpool's crush the X-Force hero Siryn to hook up with him and then reveals that she graped him...and it messes him up.
It's been years, but from memory, to give you a summary of the characterization that was so meaningful to me is Deadpool whose name is similar to a character he has a similar personality to as well as a similar humility identity thematic arc being anti-hero Jack Skellington and comedic villainy of the Joker/Jack Napier in Batman TAS, is Jack, a wounded mercenary who, after being taken in by a teacher named Wade Wilson and his wife to help heal him, murdered her, took the teacher's name, continued being a murderous mercenary who was so lonely, and yet too selfish without love in his heart to change (we do learn he did have love in his heart since he was doing mercenary work to help his girlfriend the shapeshifting mutant Vanessa get out of her prostitution lifestyle and then ended their relationship not wanting to burden her after he got cancer), perpetuating a pity party justification to remain in darkness and bring darkness to others including holding a blind old lady, Al, captive for companionship to prank and he psychologically tortured putting her in an attic with a bunch of sharp objects leaving a door open to give her false hope so when she tried to escape to her crush, she was greeted with Deadpool and dogs who crushed her crush into Scooby snacks, so he was living a very immoral life (there was glimmers of him having a heart to pull at our heartstrings to tie and anchor our immersion into believing there was still hope that he would want to change), but it was redemption story with Deadpool, somewhat, getting over his pride and going from villain to anti-hero finally finding love in his heart, but still having a ways to go to be a charitable self-sacrificial loving hero like Spider-man or Batman.
Similar to Alan Moore's "The Killing Joke" Joker origin story, in the start of the 1997 Joe Kelly run (the Mark Waid run that came before it was also good imo and a reason why he was my favorite, specifically the scene where Deadpool tried to hide his face from the superhero Siryn/Theresa Cassidy when Juggernaut knocked his mask off, and when she says, "I'm sorry...." and he responded, "Your touch...you're very kind."), Deadpool was confronted with a different superhero that sorta had Batman's TKJ line of:
"So maybe ordinary people don't always crack. Maybe there isn't any need to crawl under a rock with all the other slimey things when trouble hits...Maybe it was just you, all the time."
calling him out on his pity party, and eventually, he grows from villain until the final issue becomes an anti-hero where readers were left hoping he'd eventually grow into a selfless self-sacrificial loving hero like Spider-man and Batman, but he didn't have that level of love in his heart yet; however, not so far gone like the Joker having no love in his heart being envious like this:
Wisdom 2:24 But by the envy of the devil,death entered the world, and they who are allied with him experience it.
Not the best, but I'd listen years ago thinking it captured how I interpreted the character reading it when I was younger:
"Becoming Insane (Radio Mix)" by Infected Mushroom- for the specific 1997 Joe Kelly villain to anti-hero redemption Deadpool comics.
Thanks again for your insight (I agree that the tight X-Men movie costumes didn't make more sense the colorful comic versions). And hope you and yours have a light-filled peaceful joyful day!
The best spider man is the one who you grew up with, but calling the raimi trilogy absolute Dudu is insane
The first two minutes are just him bullying some guy 😭
you must be new to the channel, everyone gets bullied
@@andaelee I am indeed new and now, also terrified
8:59 that’s definitely rage bait lol
4:04 i mean yeah could agree with him thats the reason we love a BLACK superhero taking over another mantle i mean not be racist but still thats why i love sam wilson captain america he has emotions in him like you just hear knock on your door and someone say you as the next cap that would the same in miles pov but he lacks depth
Wanna hear a hot take? Doctor Strange 1 is MCU's Top 5 Marvel movies and is one of Top 10 Superhero movies for me
The opinions aren’t bad, just becuase they don’t have the exact same opinion as you dosent mean it’s bad
no i am the one and true opinion of the world if you have a different opinion than me then you will be banished to hell
@@andaelee Real
@@andaelee lol 😂
it is specially the last one the last ones the *WORST*
@@baverbarkin2694I agree with the opinion
Planet Hulk (2011) Makes Avengers Age Of Ultron look like a Arrowverse show with Hulk thirsty for Natasha/Black Widow bad shipping there Disney
I still definitely enjoy x-men origins Wolverine. Also, we got a fun game out of it, so I can't hate it too much.
nah I agree I don't see the hype about the raimi Spider-Man movies, out of the 3 Spider-Man franchises he's the worst one, he didn't even felt like Spider-Man and everything was about his and mj's weird relationship and how he always needed to save her
Damm I’m sad I missed this, but I’ll post an old take I made that actually originated a mcu hot takes video (unfortunately my starting point take didn’t appear on that one)
Anyhow, here it is:
**Nick Fury loosing his eye to the Turken (pardon me if I confused the Alien cat’s name) wasn’t that bad, and actually for what the movie was, it ended up being good and the best moment in the overall film**
Ok ok, I phrased that all horribly but what I mean is that in the scenario presented in the movie it was a fun moment for something so serious, and ended up being very enjoyable.
I agree that it wasn’t the original intent and yes, there would be way more compelling ways to explain the scar’s origin, but it would not fit in the vision they had for the captain marvel movie.
I do not enjoy the captain marvel movie and think that their view for the project and characters in it was terrible, I think that their choice to try making Carol a basically perfect person in a movie that should have been filled with drama and moral dilemmas was very bad, and if they had the guts to write the characters in a more compelling way it would had been very interesting to even see Carol herself attack nick fury at some point giving him his origin of lack of trust.
But the reality is that they structured the movie in a way that this kind of drama wouldn’t fit in, and for what the movie was trying to achieve one of the best things it did in its own vision was the way that Nick Fury got his scar, it was funny, light hearted and the most fun moment of the movie (their objective)
I also do not believe that it ruined Nick Fury in other movies, some people think that it does not fit for him treat the scar in the way he did in winter soldier for example, but I believe that it can add in a certain way, because Nick fury is supposed to be a master manipulator and the way he contextualizes he’s monologue about the scar, knowing how it really happened, feels like he’s saying what it needs to be said (kinda like Obi-wan talking to Luke about his father in a new hope.)
I'll give you an even worst one: "Madame Web is better than Spider-Man: No Way Home and Avengers: Endgame"
I like origins
BROOO it wasn’t ai. That’s my deadass Spider-Man hot takes at the end of the video. Trust me you don’t wanna hear my dark knight hot takes.
“Ermmmm trust me you don’t wanna hear my dark knight hot takes🤓”
I support you, Tom Holland is my favourite Spider-Man too, Homecoming especially felt like a huge combination of early 616 Spider-Man comics and Ultimate Spider-Man comics
I love Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man, but yeah I agree with the rest of it
Y'all need some therapy
@@SonGokuofficial3004 fr
The DC omniverse is actually cool and not an absolute creative bankrupt decision to make every comic canon.
the last comment gave me a stroke
0:32 you forgot about blob
4:52 and Kamala stands out in a negative way mostly.😓
Here's a hot take: Shang-Chi is the worst MCU film. If the MCU didn't already have a pre-established fanbase, Shang-Chi wouldn't stand out against any generic 2010s blockbuster.
that doesnt mean its the worst tho, imo its in the top ten best mcu films. you could say this for any franchise. "If x didnt already have a pre-established fanbase, then y would have been the worst x film."
Age of Ultron is my favorite...