Taylor Swift is FATPHOBIC? | Ex-Superfat Reacts to Fat Acceptance Tiktoks | Vol. 4
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They demand everyone walk on eggshells around their insecurities and won't give even one iota of consideration to the insecurities of others. They are basically going "how DARE YOU have a problem that isn't exactly like mine and also agree that ours are the worst."
Maybe, they feel safest blaming their unhappiness on their fatness. I'm not sure. But that is what I was doing. I could blame my fatness. It was a safe option. A long story short. I started therapy to help get resolution to my problems.
@@user-tm4my4jb6d Not everyone can afford or even has access to therapy. Lets stop saying everyone needs therapy when people cannot afford it, vast majority of us. Better to spend that money on higher quality food. That helped me more than some therapist did. It is a privilege to get therapy and it is not the norm.
@@Sarahizahhsum l understand your point. It is valid point. l wonder how we can get more people to have access to mental health. And to fresh nutrientally dense food. I do believe there's a direct correlation between mental health and malnutrition. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with me today.
YES! It is very similar to my experience in the disabled community of being called ablist if I disagree with someone about my own experience of disability. Like, folks use buzzwords to shut people down, without actually looking at the power dynamics in a situation or their own privlage or the experience of those they are shutting down
@@Sarahizahhsum That's nice, but how about we get on these people for thinking that everyone needs to validate their crap while they walk around being hypocrites and invalidating other people's crap because it breaks their delusions? Us working class people don't need your help and insurance, which most jobs provide, does cover therapy!
I felt like the taylor video just conveyed “your ed will always think your fat” and not “fat bad fat evil” and its so confusing no one thinks that direction
Exactly how I understood the video :D I was so confused by the critics
This is just FAs looking to be offended. Even at my heaviest I understood that somebody’s ED and how they see themselves has nothing to do with me.
I find it sad that the FA community did to Taylor what the press did. Everyone attacks you for something smallish and you change in response. This behavior is probably why she got an ED in the first place
I don't care about Taylor Swift, but I completely understand the uncensored scene because as a celebrity, if you are not skin and bones as a woman, the media is vicious. They called Britney Spears fat because her body filled out when she hit adulthood and she was a normal weight and that's what that scene is in the music video, except Taylor Swift ended up internalizing it.
dixiegray24 yes this exacly.
They are bullies. Plain and simple. The lack of consideration it takes to forget that *all* women are subjected to shame and judgement about their appearance will always be baffling to me. I'd bet a lot of money that Taylor has gotten more scrutiny about her appearance than all the women complaining about her combined. The fact that there is no thought about that just shows how completely self centered they are.
Exactly.... that is what happened to Karen Carpenter... someone in the press called her chubby and she then developed a problem with food that developed into anorexia... the press needs to stop talking about female entertainers weight completely because women are insecure enough.
The other thing that bothers me about the “health swap” hate videos is that they fail to acknowledge that a lot of junk food is highly palatable and scientifically designed to keep us eating. The people that have to hide the food or not keep it in the house don’t have a bad relationship with food, they literally can’t stop themselves from eating it all because the food is designed to make you do that. If you are addicted to booze, it’s best to keep it out of your house, no?
I think that the thing that really peeves me about these FAs attacking skinny people is that these skinny people are under the same societal pressures that FAs are supposedly fighting. "Skinny"/normal people are also told that they're not skinny enough. Taylor Swift was told she wasn't skinny enough.
This isn't "the thins" oppressing fat people, this is society not wanting anyone to feel secure about their body.
Excellent point! I’ve always been chubby, and beyond school i’ve never felt resentment to thin people because they’ve never wronged me, I do feel resentment for the fashion industry/hollywood standards.
Exactly. I'm generally a thin person, but I have a wide pelvis and muscular thighs, but when I was in middle/high school in the 90s I was thought of as fat because I didn't fit the waifish, thin-hipped, flat butt look that was popular at that time.
A lot of girls developed deep insecurities if not straight up EDs because of this.
The trauma and the messaging didn't not happen simply because some people are bigger.
In a way though I think it was actually worse. While I don't endorse bullying and negative reinforcement, at least for those that are overweight it is real and a problem that needs to be fixed, whereas the others where healthy girls being gaslit to starve themselves.
YES! THIS! I grew up in the generation of tiny Nicol Richi being called fat and developed an ED and still have to avoid imagery; It is similar to the 'we al have rolls' thing; In my generation everything was airbrushed and edited, so I genuinely thought I could starve my organs and ribs away.
When I was a teen and like 20 or 30 pounds overweight I was so convinced if I got to a size 4 I'd never be called fat again and I'd be So Happy. There now, ya nope. I'm still considered 'thick' at 5'1" 115lbs.
I'm healthy now, but I was underweight for awhile- I was still nowhere near the mithical size 0 but was so sick & exhausted. I can't imagine how super tall girls maintain that. No matter how low you go it's NEVER enough.
@@lorianabanana6066 I lost a loooott of weight. When I was hospitalised for anna I got the most complements. It is weird that some folks think that being thin means we don't get fucked over by beauty standards
And YOU can have body issues! And YOU can have body issues! Look under your chair! Everybody gets body issues!! *loud applause and also sobs*
B Y E 😂
Lmao but yeah actually why are people trying to gatekeep body issues
@@user-vz3up1fl5u for real. They're sounding like the snotty kids on a playground. "YOU can't have body image issues! I already picked those. Pick something else."
"I totally have empathy for her struggling with an eating disorder, BUT-" Proceeds to show zero empathy and even hatred towards her struggling with an eating disorder because she happens to not have it while also being fat. Taylor has honestly such a hate following for literally nothing, and it's fucked up
I totally agree with you on 2:45, I'm SHOCKED someone like that has friends because if they do that just over someone having weightloss imagine what other inane shit they'll do it over, it's also the worst feeling to be on the other side of that type of behavior, full on toxic
On the set of Clueless, *Alicia Silverstone* was constantly shamed for her weight and straight up called a fat girl. The level of crap women go through in the entertainment industry cannot and should not be ignored, regardless of what size they are. It's completely delusional to say Taylor Swift couldn't go through that just because she's not "fat."
She was so tiny in that movie, I can’t even fathom how anyone can call her fat. Some people just have no hearts and won’t be happy until they’ve sucked all the life out of young women, especially in entertainment
My husband is a type I diabetic, & it's always driven me crazy when I hear FAs/people in that camp talk about cancelling health swaps/diet foods. They so easily forget that some people have chronic conditions that make sugar-free/low-carb foods NECESSARY. It strikes me as super hypocritical because they always love to call people/companies ableist for not giving fat people more options, but then they demonize people that consume health-swap foods or promote them, even if those people don't have a choice.
This!!!! My momma is diabetic and she always says "this isn't some *diet*, it's a lifestyle. It's survival and health."
Yes !! I’m also type one diabetic and it annoys me very much. I get genuinely sick when I eat ice cream. Puking sick. And the more weight I gain, the harder my glucose is to control (more weight equals higher insulin resistance) most of these things I do for my HEALTH.
Yes !! I’m also type one diabetic and it annoys me very much. I get genuinely sick when I eat ice cream. Puking sick. And the more weight I gain, the harder my glucose is to control (more weight equals higher insulin resistance) most of these things I do for my HEALTH.
There is no nuance to their thinking.
I really don’t think it was demonizing. It was saying “this isn’t helpful for everyone.” Which is very true for me, personally, as my family will go on somewhat radical diets for relatively mild sensitivities, eliminating foods and swapping them for substitutes. I tried copying their actions and removed all corn, wheat, and dairy, and it was miserable, and contributed to my obsession with food and binge eating disorder.
So yeah, there’s a little more nuance for why that could be a healthy video for those of us who need it.
People need to internalize the concept that "It's not about you" in every possible tone of voice: kind, angry, befuddled, firm, etc. Other people's issues and experiences are theirs. Don't internalize them and don't try to diminish them.
yes this so great point.
The woman not saying anything when people share their weight loss reminded me when my friend told me, so delighted with herself, that she lost a stone. I didn't say anything, she looked confused. Then she realised I was just despertly trying to make sense of it converting it in kilos and she laughed saying "You have no idea how much is that?" "No, I'm sorry, I can tell is good so I'm happy for you. I'm sorry." I felt so bad for her because she was so happy and proud, how can that woman happily piss on people parade.
I can roughly convert between lbs and kilos but stones still confuse the hell out of me... after googling though, good on her, that’s no small feat 💪
@@punkiepromise9254 I am useless with pounds, stones, feet. When I go for a pizza I ask "Can you show me with your hands how big is 11inches? 🤣"
@@melh7909glad to know I'm not the only one who asks for demonstration sizes
The Taylor Swift event says a lot about internet culture. "Lets destigmatize things! but not in that way! Lets share our feelings! Unless what your feeling is totally not acceptable to me and my personal beliefs." It is a wild west with a bunch of raccoons swinging swords.
This is why I try my best not to give a single damn about what randos on the Internet think about me! And will happily tell them where to stick their comments. I may even provide them with detailed instructions and diagrams to illustrate exactly how. Just to be helpful, you know?
...That said, I imagine that's a lot harder when your job involves caring about your public image. Probably helps that I'm innately contrarian, a tiny bit twisted, and kind of a bad person, though I imagine that many who have met me would disagree. People confuse being polite with being nice, for some reason. I try my best to be the former, especially with strangers, but that's mostly just to smooth social interactions along. Doesn't make me a good person. I take far too much joy in schadenfreude for that to be the case.
ABOUT THE ICE CREAM THING: i live in a country that doesnt have a bunch of variety of options like the USA, so, when a local brand brought stevia ice cream for the xmas season, i almost cried, before i got diabetes i loveeed ice cream and when i started taking care of it, those sugary treats had to leave because they were not good for me.
A lot of people trow hate to sugar free or stevia based products, but for some diabetics those products are a little window to happines.
I’m so glad you had that!
Sugar free options are great for diabetes and certain diets. The video clip shown here was probably from someone like me, who found that food substitutions made my life worse.
It’s all about nuance.
Omg do you know where your friend got that shirt? I love it lol I wanna buy it
Edit: to talk about the Taylor Swift “issue,” the fat acceptance community really dropped the ball on this one. Like the problems she was conveying is exactly align with their messages. She feels pressure to be super thin even though she’s never been overweight in her life because so many people kept telling her left and right that fatness is bad. But they can’t see past the fact that she’s not fat and just went on attack mode without critically thinking
I think she got it from an online shop called Got Funny lolol
But yes to the Taylor swift comment!!!
I don't think critical thinking is a skill they're capable of
@@aff77141 Well, it is a cult.
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The lack of empathy those TikTokers have for people with restrictive EDs is really infuriating. I can only assume they've done absolutely no research about it, because those are dangerous mental illnesses that can and do kill people. Shaming people into suffering in silence will get people killed.
They don't care because they think they have it worse.
With the Taylor Swift thing, they're really missing the point that Taylor's experience is the direct result of the exact systemic fatphobia these people are talking about. In fact, her field is probably one of the last that actually still has systemic fatphobia. It's not Taylor who is being fatphobic, it's the people who controlled her look throughout her life. She was trying to make a point about that and got shit on by the very people it could have benefited.
YES x1000 to this comment
Thoughts and prayers for those poor teen girls that first woman inflicted herself upon. As soon as I find myself surprised or shocked by the intense and vitriolic rage of these fat activists I have to remind myself that being so overweight literally causes nonstop inflammation which very much will make you irritable, paranoid and just ragey. Love your content and your kindness, lady. Thank you!
I am so mad that Taylor took that down, no, she doesn´t need to be asking the ironic bOdY pOsItiViTy movement PERMISSION to talk about her ED. They are not the "fat" police, as someone who went through an ED when I was a teenager I can relate to her so much and would of appreciated it back then. I´m just mad that it was taken away from us because only one group of people can be the "victimis" of society and only they can express themselves. At the end of the day they just silenced another women trying to open up about ED, bravo.
the quen (girl who said she wants to diet) response video made me so mad. she does not have “some” “disordered thoughts,” she almost died from anorexia before and has spoken openly about it. of course people don’t want her to fucking relapse! also even if that wasn’t the case, not everything is about you. half of fat activist’s problems are that they take EVERY little thing personally
17:17 You're such a blessing.. I am a pretty thin person and I still have quite a pronounced stomach which I think looks really strange on my thin frame, and the fact that there are ppl out there who say I can't feel a bit insecure about that bc I'm not fat is insane to me. IT'S MY BODY 🤣 Anyway love you and your content 💜
Hey I just wanna make sure you know that if it's VERY pronounced and especially if it's stiff that can be a sign of gastrointestinal or liver issues. If that's just where your body stores fat then that's totally okay but I think that's a symptom the average person wouldn't know to worry about. It could also be a protein deficiency. Again only if it's really significant or it's stiff, if it's just your body shape that's totally okay, obviously I don't know what you look like but I just wanna make sure you're aware just in case it is more than body shape differences
@@vaughnhaney7020 I'll definitely keep an eye on it if it gets bigger or stiffens, so far I believe it's just bc I like french fries and chocolate 🤣 you're a real one tho, thank you
@@ridleyderune1491 Lmao that's fair, I just wanted to make sure you were aware in case it was more than that! As I said, I don't know how it looks so it's probably totally normal. Honestly though, I agree about fries, they're so good
@@vaughnhaney7020 Great advice. I feel like some people don't want to know about health until they get to their late 30s. And as someone in her 40s, you need to start figuring stuff out now. Lol
Thank you so much for saying this. I’m the same way and it’s hard when all these people online are saying that bc I’m not fat I shouldn’t be insecure to show my figure in society
9:22 yes let’s just give generalized “exposure therapy” advice to a bunch of random people with vastly different eating disorders
Seriously!! I didn’t even think of that.
I mean I love eating food, but the food I obsessively eat, I don't actually love. I just eat it to numb the trauma I faced. So I don't necessarily lose things by cutting those out.
Yes shes like basically encouraging people to indulge their BED its sick
@@HJ-ju4uiI actually tried eliminating a lot of food types (thanks to my family), and it made my BED so much worse because it increased my hyper focus on food. I personally really felt her video was good for people like me.
(Also, BED should be treated for what it actually is-a symptom of ADHD.)
@@rachelforshee6014hello fellow Rachel! I totally agree. She might have family members like mine who are so obsessed with food elimination that it led to a damaged relationship with said food.
I just reached my 210lbs / 15 stone weight loss today 🥳 your content really helps spur me on 💕
Congratulations! That’s amazing!
I think one of the biggest problems is that all of these "content creators" on Tik Tok (and I use that term loosely, as some people create content and some people just like to hear themselves talk) think they are the main character for everyone else. The world does not revolve around any of these people . . . we are all fellow travelers. Someone celebrating their own weight loss has nothing to do with you, because you're not their protagonist. It's narcissistic to the max.
Thanks for being a voice of reason. I wish you success and joy.
It’s crazy how many of their issues are so heavily US-centric (not all of them of course, and obesity is an issue in many parts of the world) but they act like the speak for all women and fatness being inevitable and I’m sat here in Italy like, where?
The taylor swift thing makes me sad. I had something similar happen when I was in recovery from annorexia. Got verbally abused by someone for saying that i struggled with body insecurity (they didn't know I grew up fat); I didn't mention weight stuff, just that my body image stuff affected my mental health...I ended up hiding my ED and it took longer to recover. As someone who grew up fat, I know for sure that feeling insecure about weight sucks, but so does having an ED and feeling shamed into silance. Not to mention they are both suppoisdly against the pressure for women to be thin...it's just attacking someone for bringing out their own insecurity
I'm sorry you experienced that. Eating disorders are still very much stigmatized and I genuinely worry about how this very public shaming of Taylor is going to affect people who suffer from EDs and now will be even more afraid to talk about it and get help. What they did was extremely harmful.
the way people responded to the Taylor Swift video really breaks my heart - if anything, it's in line with what they're advocating for. if this woman who is very much The Western Beauty Standard - blonde haired, blue eyed, thin, tall, conventionally attractive white woman - still struggles with feeling good about herself, what does that mean for other more marginalized people? i also just feel like a lot of people have this really deep disdain for women with restrictive EDs - they'd deny it, but it's there. they don't want her to talk about her experience at all because it makes them uncomfortable. i mean, why don't people get up in arms the same way when meghan trainor and jennifer lawrence talked about "trying out anorexia" but they "didn't have the willpower"? Pink made a super offensive music video for "stupid girls" in the early 2000s where she's mocking women with EDs - it's just another form of "i'm not like other girls" to me
I don’t think there is any other verbiage they could’ve used. They could’ve used “larger, overweight,” or even just a number and people would have still had a problem. What she put in that video wasn’t offensive and was obviously about her experiences. It’s also sad that a lot of people just threw her problems out the window and once again, focused it on themselves.
Honestly the only alternative i could think of was something like "too much". I still dont think it shouldve been censored though
The lady who was going off about people not having certain foods in their house sure is something. Restriction/binge cycles aren't the only way overconsumption of food manifests. I'm one of those people who can't have certain food items living in my house all of the time because I will fixate on them. Am I banned from eating them forever? No. My rule is that I'm allowed to have those items whenever I want, but I have to go buy them. They're not allowed to be staple foods in my home. If it's a snack item, I'll buy it in the portion I want to eat it in, no questions asked. If I have an endless supply of hyper palatable foods and snacks, then that's what I'm going to eat instead of healthier options--even if those are still tasty. And since I'm no longer eating those hyper-palatable snack foods every day, I don't crave them as often. This has actually given me more control. No foods are off limits, but I don’t have unlimited access to them. Also, health-swapping foods that are binge/overconsumption triggers can be super helpful for satisfying whatever that craving was without going into a psychological tailspin. And health swapping isn't by itself indicative of food restricting.
I totally agree with you. That video also annoyed me. I agree with her that if you really want a certain (high calorie - low nutrition) food then it is probably best just to eat a small amount in moderation, but that may not be possible for everyone. I can't have certain sweet foods freely available in the house without over consuming them. I also find, same as you, that what works for me is to buy them in the small snack size quantity that I want to eat. If a large portion is in the house I'll eat it, not all in one go, but bit by bit until it's all gone in a day or two. If the sweet food is in the house for my husband or kids I ask them to hide it away, so it is not freely available, maybe pathetic, but I think it is self awareness. And allowing myself a reasonable moderate portion of the food every now and then or even daily (which I do) doesn't prevent me over indulging if it is in bulk in the house. Better to know yourself and not have to constantly fail at fighting temptation
I changed my diet and I stopped craving chips and most candies, because they started tasting very chemical. I still eat dark chocolates and sweet baked goods. The way I stopped enjoying those others foods though was by not buying them anymore. I just didn't keep them around the house and I still enjoyed food. At first I missed them, but that passed quickly. Whenever I visit a certain family member, she always buys candies and chips whenever she does groceries and she finishes them within two days. Just because they are there.
I think this is a great mindset to have. My mom restricted sugar from me and my sister a lot when we were younger so when I got to uni I craved sugary things a lot more, and had the ability to go and get it myself without judgement. So to combat over indulging in that, I wouldn't buy those things every week. I'd rationalise it as an unnecessary cost which helped considering I was a student.
@@thirstyforlaundrydetergent9664 What does "chemical" taste like? Don't think I know that one. I know what various chemicals smell/taste like, but "chemical" eludes me.
Also, all things are made of chemicals. Just needed to throw that in there. It's an obligatory thing for anyone who studies chemistry. Pretty sure I'd be in legal trouble if I didn't.
taylor swift wasn't "perpetuating" anything... she was showing that she also feels pressured to be skinny and addressing it as a problem. i can't believe that people got her narrative so twisted
“Fat is not a feeling” by a movement who’s whole existence is based on feelings.
I feel like the Taylor Swift situation also applies to many social situations nowadays. I’m an average-sized person who has struggled with an ED for 5+ years (since I was 13/14). I am terrified of gaining weight, I am terrified of being fat. But I can’t express those disordered thoughts/worries at the risk of being called fatphobic. I feel horrible, I feel like a horrible person. I don’t want to be fatphobic, but I still have these horrible thoughts. It’s like now I have to deal with these disordered thoughts AND the guilt of having them.
Food swap options have given me a lot more food freedom than avoiding it. I'm not disordered for getting Halo Top instead of Ben & Jerry's, I'm avoiding the massive calories and upset stomach. Getting small bags of chips are better for managing my binging because I still get to eat an entire bag. Thin crust pizza or cauliflower let's me have my own pizza or ½ of one (9/10 that's what the binge wants). All are healthier for me. Neither effects Friday Nights when we watch movies.
If my relationship is ruined because I AM having cookies made with stevia... I don't want that person anyways. That's incredibly narcissistic.
It’s just so frustrating that they often can’t show their own arguments without feeling the need to verbally hurt or insult their “opponents”
The woman who was talking about health swaps seemed to be projecting hard on other people like I don't keep cereal in my house cuz it's a trigger food, one of the only trigger foods I have. Keeping that one food out of my house doesn't make me obsess over not having it, I just don't have it
Her experience is valid though. I don’t think she was trying to project onto others so much as she wanted to reach people like her who needed that advice. I happen to be one of those people who finds food swapping to be unhelpful at best and triggering at worst.
This reminds me of when people say "just because someone is drowning in 10 metres of water doesn't mean that someone drowning in 4 metres of water is okay" if yknow what I mean. Just because you are more unhappy with your body image doesn't mean someone who is struggling seemingly "less" cant be unhappy as well.
a sad thing is a while ago i’ve seen the gal from 17:12 tweet about having and eating disorder and how much it sucks (relatable), and the stitch addresses “disordered thought patterns” but then the person fully discards the fact that PEOPLE OF ALL SIZES DEAL WITH EATING DISORDERS and says not to empathize with thin people
People with ED whether restrictive or binging should not be diminished. It’s upsetting that TS had to change that part of her video. I also have to keep certain foods out of my house which is my choice, in my own home. I don’t want to gain the weight back. That’s no concern of anyone else. Do not diminish someone else’s experience. I agree with you💯💖
I'm very upset to hear that Taylor Swift had to censor her art because a bunch of narcissist got their feelings hurt
Maybe it's because I first heard about it with people thinking it was fatphobic, the Taylor Swift video reminded me of a less severe form of a scene from an ED documentary where someone with an ED patient drew how they saw themselves and it was way bigger than the reality.
I always think of when they had them draw a lifesize outline of their bodies.
I'm paraplegic with respiratory failure and a myriad of health issues. The amount of time I spend moaning about how hard done by I am and how everyone not dealing with what I am offends me is exactly zero minutes.
There's a huge difference between sharing an experience to educate others and hopefully drive change compared to competing for the most oppressed in society award.
Swift was sharing her experience, in a way that she knows how - via her art. She shouldn't have to minimalise her experience at all. It is jarring seeing that image, and I think she needs to be extra careful about how she communicates because of young female fans potentially interpreting her message harmful, but she owes fat acceptance activists and society precisely nothing.
If Swift was just a drama chaser, this would have different connotations. She's not - and the furore over this detracts from a very important fact - even 'perfect' looking girls are pressured to look a certain way by the industry and society in general. This is where I take issue with activists snapping back at her - it seems much more like jealousy than genuine concern.
Exactly this. Well said.
9:00 The total lack of empathy for people who struggle with binging. It’s great that OP has developed a healthier relationship with all foods, but some of us have looked within ourselves and found different paths to fixing our relationship with food. If not keeping Ben & Jerry’s in your freezer is the healthiest choice for you, that’s perfectly understandable. We all have different journeys. Total “food freedom” may never be in the cards for me and many others, and that’s not something to be ashamed of.
10:20 the thing the girl is talking about is called intuitive eating. It’s kinda hard to change your perspective on food and diet restrictions culture, but this approach is really good mental health wise. I’m still not fully there, but it makes my life easier and allows me to stop being afraid of certain types of food
But morbidly obese people got to that weight because of their perception or intuition regarding eating and food. Their intuition is what got them to be obese in the first place. Their intuition was to eat what they wanted in too large of quantities because it felt satisfying to eat whatever they were feeling like at the moment.
There was a Tiktok I saw about Wendy Williams going off on Taylor saying how she looks like a boy underneath those girl clothes and then in another clip saying "her face is cute but she's a little too fat" Like seriously?!
I personally prefer to congratulate people on their hard work and commitment when they lose weight versus how they look specifically because I know it takes a lot of hard work. 😊
Love this!
I do the same including if it is the other way around
Thanks for addressing these opinions with kindness and understanding. 💜
thank you for mentioning thin body image issues, a lot of the time is thin people feel fat and uncomfortable on our bodies. it isn’t any less distressing than for anyone else, thin people are just as vulnerable to the body standards put in place for us as overweight women.
That last clip...ugh. I have a family member that does that for most of my accomplishments. I graduated, oh okay 😐. I made the honor roll, oh okay 😐, I got a job after being jobless for a while, oh okay. Nothing impresses them and when that's hat you grow up with it can be so demoralizing.
For the FA's who demand consent before commenting on their bodies, they sure do like commenting left and right about people who lost weight.
The second video… My god, that’s so incorrect: My cravings do NOT go away when I let myself indulge in foods I love, I could eat the same pizza every single day, the whole pizza, and not get tired of it or feel the need to eat less than the whole thing in the slightest. I know because I lived like that for months. A whole pizza AND the same cheesy bread on the side every day without fail, no exaggeration. Sometimes dessert with it as well. Eating what my mind craves in like a drug addict giving in to an addiction, and I’m only happy that I managed to stop before I died from my choices. People with binge eating or food addiction CANNOT live in the way she suggests.
As a person who struggles so hard with a sugar addiction i'm always looking for ways to get the sugar fix in a healthier way because out of everything it's one aspect that affects my diet the most. I would LOVE to hear about how you manage your sweet tooth and how it affects your lifestyle cause it really is a struggle!
I think the misconception about body dysmorphia/ED is that those who are suffering rarely project their own fears/agony over they own bodies onto others.
I've just recently discovered your channel, and I've spent the last couple weeks binging literally all your content. You do such a great job pointing out the hypocrisy of fat activists without demonizing fat people or attacking their character, which I highly appreciate! Thank you for posting these reactions, keep up the great work!
i think what is going on with taylor's video and the reaction to it is extremely representative of how little empathy people have for others and the lack of critical thought and media literacy that has gotten so, so prevalent in the past few years. it is chilling how cold and callous people have been to her about something that is just... accepted that women in media deal with. a LOT of women especially in hollywood have eating disorders and struggle with the commentary from tabloids and the general public towards their bodies. instead of criticizing the structural social body that caused taylor's issue and created the imagery she used, they attacked her, the undeniable victim of that horrid system that perpetuates body insecurity and the extreme pressure to be skinny, the very thing they say they are victims of themselves! it's been so frustrating to see people talk about it
If I had an ED like Taylor does and I saw that music video I'd probably be happy knowing I'm not the only one who's gone through an ED like that
That's EXACTLY what I thought. Like, Taylor Swift is super thin and beautiful and even SHE feels this way too? It makes me feel so much better knowing that I'm not alone. Like, even Taylor Swift feels this way!
Yep as someone who had a restriction ED and recovered.. I was so happy to see that and I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift. But knowing people can and DO recover from EDs and help is out there.
Idk why but I sincerely appreciate you saying that thin people have body image issues and that’s valid. Genuinely thank you♥︎ everyone’s valid
I saw that moment in Taylor’s video as a commentary on the expectations the entertainment industry places on appearance and how devastating it is to people, how it can warp someone’s perception of their body. It’s a big problem and people with a high profile like Taylor Swift talking about it could help lead to change.
needed an upload! the exact thing i needed on this monday :] you’re uploading a lot more lately, i appreciate it but don’t burn yrself out, take care of yrself my man
I’m pacing myself don’t worry!!
You're the best! Frankly I watch the types of videos you critique to motivate myself to maintain my weight loss and because I hate science denial. What's rare is seeing a person as kind and empathetic as you presenting the critique. So many with reaction channels are mean and rude to fat people. Thank you for being the polar opposite! ❤️
8:20 makes me feel feelings, because I often get caught in the same trap this person does. I like to think that because I'm not usually tempted or stressed by food, that's a prescription for everyone else to follow. In fact, I've said something similar to, "The stress is more unhealthy than the food itself. Just eat it and chill!" like this person says. But obviously this isn't universal. Not everyone's relationship with food is identical. I can't make prescriptions for others, and everyone needs to make their own way and do what they need to do. Telling people to "stop stressing about food" is ineffective at best and privileged nonsense at worst. Love your videos, friend! 🌿
If someone doesn't want to outright compliment a friend's weightloss, you can try first asking them how they feel about it, and if they say happy, just tell them you're glad they're happy! Focusing on the positive emotions your friend is feeling doesn't reinforce anything negative and isn't directly about the weight or body.
Imagine that a person who was beautiful said to someone else. "You are not allowed to SAY you feel beautiful. You're not beautiful." Or imagine a rich person saying punching down and saying you're not allowed to feel rich. You're not wealthy like me. Or what? If a woman in her 70s said she felt as young as a 20-year-old and a 20-year-old said you are not allowed to feel young only I am young. YOU MAKE NO SENSE.
I had to stop keeping bread in the house all the time. Sometimes you got to teach yourself self-control around certain foods and that's okay.
One thing about health swapping is that you need to make sure that what you are swapping to, is actually satisfying the craving. Sometimes it is better to swap to even something more calorific if it satisfies the craving for longer with smaller portion. For me, old fashioned hard candy is best for sweet craving, because I happily suck on one for 15 minutes and won't need another one.
PB2 is good in smoothies, but I'd never try to replace regular peanut butter with it. "Health swaps" can have their place in your life, but yeah not everything needs to be swapped (or really ever should be). I will always defend bulking up your food with vegetables though, you can eat a large portion if that's what you like, be really satisfied, and get a bunch of nutrients so it's a winning move all around.
that hairstyle is ADORABLE!!
8:38 It's almost like they forget binge eating disorder is a thing.
Also, I have no issue destroying a pint on Ben & Jerry's or Jeni's Ice cream, largely as a way to medicate feelings. Not a good coping mechanism to have. It's why I have to measure out to enjoy that ice cream.
There's a reason I don't keep certain foods, save single serving versions of them, in my house. I like a healthy swap because it allows for me to enjoy something sweet without self loathing later.
All women struggle with body issues at every size. Every inch of us is criticized online , in magazines and in the media. Yes some people have it worse but I can't stand that anyone would make their suffering a competition. In every movement people have to keep themselves in check and not become the monster their fighting.
Loving the content! Just found you today😁
Not necessarily related to the content of the music video, but Taylor Swift's merch goes up to 4X with no additional upcharge, which I think is a pretty practical way to be inclusive of all her fans.
Taylor Swift portrayed calling herself fat in a derogatory way AS A NEGATIVE THING THAT YOU SHOULDNT DO! It’s so obvious that she’s like “this is not a good way to act/think. Get help”
Staying up for an additional 25 miniutes can't hurt...
imagine being this riled up over lyrics that arent about you. or lyrics in general. your ego or whatever must be high in the sky yet fragile as glass
Thanks for always reading the TikToks aloud 🥰 I like to listen to yours and other people’s videos while I’m doing household tasks so it’s really nice to not have to run back to my phone to find out what the video was saying
I love that you read the tiktoks because I listen to your videos while cooking. Thank you for reading them!!
I think the second video about the health swaps was about 80 percent right. As someone who is actively trying to lose weight, I've been more successful in finding moderation with foods like ice cream and chips than outright banning them from my food repertoire. The 20 percent where I take issue is mainly with her tone. I don't think she was trying to diminish health swaps for people who need to for controlling a medical condition so much as just taking issue with the whole concept of implicitly designating foods as good or bad. But I think she could have been more tactful in her message delivery.
ive struggled on and off with anorexia since i was a kid, you could weigh like 50 lbs and still think you are fat. in my experience if i saw someone my weight i would not think they are fat but seeing that same weight on myself i thought i looked obese it completely warps your perception of yourself.
People constantly preach about how they hate fakeness or don't want to see " fake poser commercial" artists, but when artist give their realness, are honest and share their real experiences, we get offended. It is not about what was seen in the video, it is about how you perceive it. If you are sensitive to it and take it too personally, then you have to go deep in yourself and figure out why it triggered you, and only then you can overcome your weakness and become stronger.
Well said^ I feel like it comes down to whether people want art or a consumable. They're not mutually exclusive concepts, but art becomes much more of a commodity and less expressive when people demand everything be comfortable for them to engage with. If people want an artist to express themselves, they have to also understand that expression may sometimes make them uncomfortable or challenge things they think. It's particularly interesting bc part of the whole reason for the fat phobic stuff in the music industry can also be traced to demanding artists present themselves as something to be easily sold and digested instead of a complex real person.
@@leopardshadow333 I agree.
Thank you for reading out the tiktoks! I often listen to your videos instead of watching them and it's really helpful :)
The person at 18:00 is so annoying. They really think they're the center of the universe even when someone is literally commenting their OWN body!
also, your make up is ON POINT it looks so good on you!
I follow the first girl and when I saw her on your reaction I was like OH MAN bevause I saw it on my fyp and was so disappointed she posted it. Thank you for all this content.
@ 5:40 yeah again it's one of those situations where while there is a point to be had that of course it could hurt people's feelings but going from "well it can hurt people's feelings so therefore she's a terrible person and needs to be removed" is such an extreme jump in logic like both sides can be validated because both sides feelings should matter and it always seems like everyone always wants their feelings to take priority which leads to 90% of the problems
One thing I loved about moving out when I turned 18 a little over 7 years ago was....Normal peanut butter. I love my dad's girlfriend to death bless her heart because she became like an actual mom to me but, when she started replacing our peanut butter with Pb2, that trust was broken 😆
Sometimes I'd come home after school and it would just be gone. A Powder and Jelly sandwich just doesn't sound appetizing >_>
PB2 is good for smoothies and smoothies only
And even that’s debatable imo
@@heylookitsmegananne if used correctly it can be! The biggest unappealing thing about it to me is that it never got creamy and smooth.
It would always come out gritty. We tried making Peanut butter cookies with a few times and no matter what we did. We got gritty PB cookies 🤣
@@Spinny300 we make those cookies (in the bakery) and yes, you need good peanut butter for the delicious smooth structure 😋
Thank you for reading them! Sometimes the words go too fast and I can’t process them fast enough!
You know it’ll be a trip when it starts with an awkward slow clap 😂🤎
You’re the best. I agree 100% with you
on Taylor swift. The only appropriate response to her in my opinion is- “I’m sorry you went through that, I know how hard it can be to struggle with self imagine.” Period. Otherwise, just watch and move on!
Second tiktok: it's okay to not deprive yourself of anything you want to eat
Me and my binge eating disorder: 🥴🥴🥴
I think you're very sharp and I appreciate how kind you are. You're also just so pretty! Whatever makeup you did on your eyes made them so large and luminous, you look lovely.
I do think Taylor Swift has done problematic things in the past (whether you agree or not, we can keep it moving) and I have no particular like for her to an extreme, but there is no way she deserved this kind of backlash over her portraying her very own real and valid feelings and something she dealt with. I don't think she did anything wrong with that music video and find it crazy that this is what someone could pull away from what she was showing.
"When your 'fat creator' start posting stuff about weight loss". So the only thing they liked about them was that they are/were fat and nothing else. Like the personality doesn't melt away just because they drop some kilograms.
I was sad about Taylor swift taking the scale part down, if anything she was a victim of fatphobia and ED and I felt identified with her, let’s face it, we were taught that fat is bad and the worst thing you can be and NOWADAYS is consider neutralnormal/good when we’re already adults with a mindset of fatfhobia that’s extremely hard to let behind
I’m considered skinny but I
deal with body dysmorphia, had an ED and my lowest was below 100lbs scared of gaining weight
I don’t get to feel identified with an artist I love just because I’m not fat? I get so mad when fat activists say we can’t talk about our problems because we’re not fat
Also thanks for reading the tic toc text. I appreciate it.
When someone asks me who my favorite content creator is, I always say you! Thank you for all the thought, time, and effort you put into your content. You are such a ray of sunshine just like you said Taylor was ~
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I think people also forget that when Taylor was first in the spotlight, pop culture did villianize the word fat. If you look at like any celebrity magazine from that era there would be covers calling any female celebrity fat, reguardless of their actual size. That kind of stigma stuck for a lot of people, and not just larger people.
Oh no! Just realized I don't have notifications on! Here's a comment for the algorithm 💕 Really bad heartburn woke me up. Gonna catch up on missed videos. Definitely need the distraction. See ya in your other comment sections!🙃👋🏻
i get so confused when fat activists talk about how “not wanting to be fat is fatphobic” and “feeling fat isn’t a bad thing” but in the same breath will talk about the oppression, struggles, and prejudice that supposedly come with being being fat. like why would anybody want that?
that woman b*tching about how others don't wanna keep junk food in the house and how that's sooooo bad is totally missing the point. NOT keeping junk in the house means you will gravitate towards the other foods you do have (actual meals and not processed snacks, for example). nobody is saying to cut things out completely but let's be honest, eating a whole tub of ice cream or bag of chips or whatever in one sitting IS a PROBLEM. overeating large quantities of processed food IS a problem. these behaviors have been normalized by our society and companies purposely make processed foods as addicting as possible. the people who choose not to keep junk in the house are the ones who know if it's there, they'll gobble up a whole pack instead of eating in moderation!
Just dropping in to say you have such a great laugh. There's something infectious about it.
Hello! just wanted to say that in the second video the woman is talking about not demonizing food but normalizing it instead (because it usually leads to eating less of it), which is something a lot of people with disorder eating struggle with and also a major source of binging. I don't think she was against the swap but more like the idea that food is inherently wrong. Also, it seems to me that the video is more directed to people that struggle with anorexia/ bulimia and binge eating rather than morbidly obese people, but I could be wrong here idk! Also, I love your work and your personality, you always do really good videos ^ ^ have a nice day
Thank you for reading tiktoks.
Not me sitting here with my peanut butter health swap as a snack 😂… but I am enjoying it. I eat Smuckers all natural PB now and it’s super good. As I cut sugar out of my diet things are tasting sweet that used to not taste sweet. So at first it was weird to get used to but now it’s yum.
You have a good point about the praise thing. Imagine someone was mentioning that they wanted to tackle climbing Mt Everest or writing a book or starting a garden, and their dear friend just... didn't respond or brushed them off. Once again, FAs making other people's experiences all about themselves.
"feeling fat" is totally a thing. Still can't get over FAs getting THAT angry over someone else struggling with an eating disorder and making it all about themselves. As if Taylor Swift had anorexia AT you.
I have an aunt who is the freaking best aunty ever, and I’ve always wanted to be like her, she’s beautiful and successful. She’s also a bigger woman, and in our family, there’s a serious pressure to be thin, and I’m sure that’s caused her stress because it has for me and I’ve always been thin. She has started a weight loss journey, and although I love my aunty at any size and don’t see anything wrong with being big, I know she wants to do this for her well being and health so when she posts about it ( mostly on platforms that me and some close people only look at) I congratulate her on the weight she’s lost, even small bits, because I just love the fact that my aunt shared that with us and is proud of herself. If someone shares their journey with u it’s because they want support, not to be ignored. I assume if someone doesn’t talk about their weight loss that they don’t want me to speak on it so I never give unsolicited compliments or comments like that, and I do agree those can be un called for and damaging, but when someone is asking for your support, you should give it to them and be happy that they are caring for themselves. Seems so shitty to just brush off your friends who share their journey with u. That’s my thoughts, sorry for the long paragraph