Karn Evil 9 (All Parts!) - Emerson Lake and Palmer | College Students' FIRST TIME REACTION!
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Back finally with some more ELP!! You guys said we HAD to hit this prog EPIC, and we listened! Thank you all so much for suggesting the track!! What’s next?!?! 🙌🏻🔥
Thanks for the reaction guys! You passed the test. You are now officially in the "prog club". Try "Fanfare for the Common Man" next
I couldn't rate the whole thing either! If it was just First Impression Part 2, which is what got played on the radio, and can be found on TH-cam, I'd go A+.
Did you guys just jump straight in at the deep end at swimming school? The earlier stuff is an easier gateway. 1st ELP album is winging its way to your PO box right now.
Please consider some Captain Beyond
Genesis - "The Cinema Show", "Dance on a Volcano", "The Carpet Crawlers", "Firth of Fifth", "Supper's Ready"...
Dudes! You don't get it!!! That grand piano sound??? That was a grand piano!! All those keyboard sounds? Those were all manually created by patching together different analog synth modules and turning knobs. He had multiple keyboards stacked on top of each other, not to look cool, but because each one was one specific sound, and he had to twist and jump between them playing different ones with each hand simultaneously. And he did it all live without overdubbing. He was one of the earliest synth pioneers and a mad keyboard genius. RIP Keith!
Shit, he stabbed his synth keyboard with a knife to jam it and then tossed it from side to side and flipped it to get certain wave length sounds. The live show was like watching phenoms like Hendrix burning his guitar or Townsend smashing it up. The tech. was pretty primitive compared to today.
@@michaelbochnia5686 I think that was his Hammond that he jabbed the knives into.
@@seed_drill7135 thank you.
@@seed_drill7135 Yes, he would do that when he was with the Nice. It was theatrical, but it also allowed him to play runs over the chords that the knives were holding down.
@Roy Kaplan Thanks, you said what I was trying to say about the amazing live performances, and all the things Emerson had to do to produce the sounds live. I saw them live in the 70's and will never forget how incredible it was.
To the naysayers, this is no less than Beethoven's 9th, performed by 3 guys. 3 guys who had much more primitive technology than exists today. Like it or not, this is sheer genius and musical artistry.
I love it. Listened to this with my boyfriend pretty much everyday & Zepplin.
Truth!
My brother got me into ELP and yes and several other band of the genre when I was about 15 (I was really into sabbath,KISS copper and the like) it took a few listens till I understood..fantastic fantastic musicians absolutely incredible
Coincido totalmente, pura genialidad y arte musical. Lamentablemente, no se ha vuelto a hacer esta clase de música tan inspirada y con tanto vuelo artístico desde los 70.
Actually they collaborated very closely with Robert Moog, who build the Moog Synthesizer, which became a standard in prog rock, and experimented with him to create new sounds.
Imagine being a 12 year old kid with his allowance in a record store and buying this record because he liked the picture? That was me in 1973. Changed my life.
I was a little older than that when I got this album in a trade with a friend. I think I traded The Beatles 1967-70 for this one. I knew absolutely nothing about ELP and the cover snagged me too. Loved it at first listen
Yes sir...that was me too...at aged 12! I spent many hours in HMV. Samplimg
LPs in the listening booths until the manager told me to leave! ELP, Genesis and Pink Floyd changed my life.
I was 14. Speechless.
Hey I was also in that store ! I remember you vinniejoe - you grabbed the record just as I was about to buy it. I found another copy though :)
@mags jay Ever !
They didn't call it Brain Salad Surgery for nothing.
Soooo true!......LOL
I think they assumed listeners would consume mood altering substances and turn the lights down and the music up really loud. Mind blown...
About the only thing in that era to compare this to would be ... Maybe Tommy by the who
@@veganm8918 The music itself was all a mood altering substance needed. Anything else would just take away from its brilliance.
@@illusionclassicrock6742 True. However they certainly were aware what some fans would partake in mood altering substances while listening to albums like Brain Salad Surgery. They probably did a bit of that themselves.
I'm a 65 year old, semi-retired rock musician and am so thrilled that I found your channel. Your openness to appreciating great music from ages gone by is touching, truly. I watch all of your episodes. When I first heard this album, I was a teenaged, already a stone-gone ELP fanatic, mostly because of their album, Tarkus. OMFG, check it out if and when you have the time and inclination. But this album still makes me a bit emotional, because of its impact on the younger me. I saw ELP in Spokane, during their Brain Salad Surgery tour and was so spent at the end of the show, I cried, if I recall correctly. Karn Evil 9 was their final song of the night and it was truly unbelievable. My 2 buds and I snuck in to their afternoon setup and sound check and were allowed to stand near the FOH mix console, as all instruments were tested... before we were politely ushered out. Their sound system was revolutionary for the time: Quadraphonic ie 4 HUGE stacks of speakers in the corners of the arena, and when the synth sequence at the end of this song kicked in, it spun around the room faster and faster and even faster, ending when Keith Emerson's giant Moog synthesizer appeared to BLOW UP!!! Halcyon days!
Same in San Antonio! Folks who had partaken of a little weed prior to the concert walked around dazed for hours from that ending!! Been a fan since I discovered their first album while serving overseas in the late 60's - early 70's. Revisit this album often!!
@@jimmcevers9443 I remember Emerson playing the floating tumbling grand piano.
I am 70 now and have never stopped listening music of ELP. The 1970s was an age of great music. I shall die with big smile on my face knowing what great music has been done.
@@robertcarran9585 that's where I saw them! At The Garden!
I saw it in Manhattan, Kansas. Stunning show. 3 musicians.
Tarkus. It's a little song about a mutant armadillo who has been crossed with a tank. Tarkus encounters many foes and defeats them until the battle with the manticore. He loses the battle but morphs into Aquatarkus. That alone should be enough to pique your curiosity.
Best summary I've ever heard! 🤣🤣
@@robulven3019 you're right :D
Tarkus is definitely my BAE
peaked my interest and I've heard the song 18 times already.
Comments: me
TH-cam search: "Tarkus Live" 😉
A thick and meaty bowl of prog stew that you ate too fast and suddenly realized you’re super full.
They were overly ready for their supper
@@Mime59100 I see what you did there. I'd say they got a little too close to the edge
“This guy’s a phenom”. Yes he was. And y’all listened to this perfectly. Headphones, eyes closed, head swaying. That’s how I did it back in the olden days.
Lights out.
LOL, you Guys were so blindsided, that you didn't even rate the song. Honestly, I don't blame you. I mean, can it even be described as a mere song? This is an epic journey. It is off the charts, and to characterize it as a song is to cheapen its significance. I get it. For that alone, however, it deserves an S Tier rating. Prove me wrong
I'd almost forgotten how breathtaking Carl Palmers drumming was. There's more going on there than just keeping a beat.
Yep! And he played it even better live. The "Welcome Back My Friends..." album probably has the best version of this and Tarkus. And the drum solo in this live...
Before Neil Peart was the Professor, Carl Palmer had all the toys.
@@europe7249 Between Palmer and Billie Cobham, they were considered the best drummers of the world in that period.
Carl is a beast.
His work makes for a fascinating comparison with Neil Peart. Palmer is more classically oriented driving Keith's brilliant compositions, while Peart is more a critical component of the melodic signature of the music for Rush. Peart's a more musical drummer and Palmer was more immense speed and accenting every single note Keith played. The two best drummers in rock, but very different in what they did.
I love how you guys look dumbstruck and exhausted - halfway through, LOL.
i agree, seeing your faces after the first 15 mins. i knew you two were in trouble. try listening to this stoned out of your head. i can't really say i lasted thru the whole album ( or i don't remember)........
Think of playing it live!
Sadly Keith Emerson and Greg Lake have passed, This band and music was accused of being "bombastic and over the top" but ELP showed us what was possible. They began the year the Beatles broke up....it is stunning what these 3 English boys accomplished. Thank you for listening and appreciating! They deserve it!!!
I think beginning musicians were just jealous of the degree of talent, it was daunting for someone who only knows 3 chords to listen to this.
Keith Emerson's suicide breaks my heart
@@eileendobbs8574 Oh my gosh! I didn't know that. So incredibly sad
@@Fuphyter yeah. He had been having muscle problems in his right arm and hands for years and was receiving criticism for his playing. I don't think he could accept the possibility that he might not be able to play anymore. Thats how important music is to these musicians and why I'm so happy young people like Andy & Alex are listening to them and enjoying their brilliance.
@@eileendobbs8574 So, so sad. Along with Chris Cornell and Stevie Ray Vaughan, my biggest musical regret - never got to see him live, especially before his nerve disorder crippled the greatest hands in rock keyboards.
Greg Lake has one of the best voices in Rock hands down.
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I totally agree! His vocal is beautiful and had such range when he was young! He's my all time favorite singer and musician. And he was so under rated as a electric guitar player, but when he's playing it on this song, he set that guitar on fire! I wish he'd played more electric guitar!
May he Rest in Peace.
His bass playing was amazing too, and his guitar solo on First Impression is one of the best I've ever heard.
Karn Evil 9 is the summit of the progressive rock genre. Nothing comes close, no piece of music in this genre is deeper. Keith Emerson, Greg Lake, and Carl Palmer created a masterpiece that they couldn't even beat.
Tales from Topographic Oceans... "hold my beer"
@@RiverEdger Great response, but totally different feel on music. Both are the pinnacle on what they are trying to achieve.
There are many great progressive rock musicians. The “best” is completely subjective as it depends on what you are looking for
@@matteopacelli9001 I'm pretty sure if you asked a computer, Karn Evil 9 would take the cake.
Tarkus is better though.... So... Yeah.
You’ve stumbled into the Master Class of Prog Rock. Three individuals players, keyboards, bass and drums. That’s all there is. This is what they created. What a gift.
Keith Emerson is known as the Jimi Hendrix of the keyboard and piano, TARKUS IS INCREDIBLE
Tarkus is their best by far, has been performed by concert pianists, and entire orchestras
I believe he was trained at the London Conservatory of Music. Absolute master on the keyboard(s)
Tarkus is a must listen. Their best album
@@abbymiller8441 Check out "Three Fates Project" if you haven't already.
Funny you mention that, there was a few rumors that they invited Hendrix to join them, when ELP was first forming, but sadly he passed away before anything happened.
Guys try these songs from ELP , " Fanfare for the common man" , and " Lucky man"
Love Fanfare. Did you know they used to use the ELP version of that tune as the theme for Wide World of Sports?
Yuk...bro; of all the great ELP songs; Those two? They've been played to death...You must not know ANYTHING about ELP...Literally every single song is more important and profound than those and ONE OF THEM IS ACTUALLY AN AARON COPELAND composition...
@@milasthompson82 This is not true. Nowhere in the theme for Wide World of Sports is there any part of "Fanfare for the Common Man"
Besides, neither Alex nor Andy were alive when Wide World of Sports went off the air. That being said, played to death or not, we may have heard them ad nauseum, but, they haven't heard them.
This is about them reacting to songs they haven't heard. Let them decide
And do trilogy , endless enigma from trilogy and tarkus. , works (pirates )
This is ELP's most popular song from their most popular album. The song is most commonly interpreted as ELP's take on a shortened history of the world into a futuristic tale. The First Impression begins on the "Cold and misty morning" of the Earth's birth, through the ice age ("Where the seeds have withered, silent faces in the cold"), and to man's growing lust for money ("Now their faces captured in the lenses of the jackals for gold"), which leads to various wars. Afterwards, the world is described as a carnival, wherein various elements of humanity are reduced to circus sideshows ("A bomb inside a car," "Pull Jesus from a hat"), representing the human race's growing selfishness and indifference toward others. Even human misery is described as a "specialty" in the "show."
The second part of the First Impression focuses on the growing artificialization of the world, describing something as natural as "A real blade of grass" as some bizarre circus attraction. Despite the fact that the world is becoming more and more consumed by artificiality and given control to computers (see Third Impression), the human race insists that it is still in control, as it created all that the "Carnival" encompasses ("We would like it to be known the exhibits that were shown were exclusively our own.").
The Second Impression is an instrumental piece (mostly a piano solo), symbolizing the blissful ignorance of humanity towards the impending danger of the conquest of the computers, which culminates in the Third Impression. At this point, the "machines" have concluded their superiority to humanity and begin to take on mankind's necessity to prove their own superiority. The computers are represented by heavily distorted vocals, while the voice of the all-representative "Man" is clean and without effect. The computers finally wage a violent conquest of the Earth. Mankind is shocked that its own creation is fighting back against him ("Walls that no man thought would fall") and is unprepared for the conflict. Finally the machines determine that they are sentient beings and the new "Humans," or rather the new dominant species ("Load your program. I am yourself."), pushing humanity to the subservient status that they had once occupied. After their victory ("Rejoice! Glory is ours!"), they make sure not to wipe out the human race, but preserve it to demean humanity and gloat about their superiority.
The last stanza of the suite epitomizes the conquest and the arrogance of both the old and new masters of the earth, wherein man struggles to maintain his presence as the dominant species on Earth and the computers assert that they have surpassed their creators: "I am all there is." "Negative! Primitive! Limited! I let you live!" "But I gave you life!" "What else could you do?" "To do what is right." "I'm perfect! Are you?"
We are currently in circus mode
@@artboyee the really messed up circus where the clowns are all evil and everyone is screaming and running for their lives
Wow, great explanation. I never bothered to break it down like that, I just dig the song. Now I feel like I need to listen to it again.
That is masterfully described! Well done!
You nailed it. Excellent analysis!
Keith was and will forever be the greatest piano/keyboard/synth player in rock. Most rock keyboardists couldn't hold a candle to their jazz contemporaries, Emerson could sit in a jazz Trio in a small club and kill it. Couple that with his composing skills, his pioneering use of the synth - which was a new thing back then - and there's no doubt that he's #1. It's truly a tragedy that he is no longer with us.
Indeed.
Of course, the pompous Jazz aficionados would still labeled him as "presumptuous." There was a time when you just had to throw rotten vegetables at anybody who claimed to listen to Jazz, because they would tell you whatever you listened to was "crap."
I totally agree with you, but I did love Tony Banks, Rick Wakeman and I have to mention this man because he doesn't get the recognition that I think he deserves, that's Michael Pinder of Moody Blues fame.
For me Keith’s keyboards were the quintessential ELP sound. When you heard him you knew what band it was, so good…
I saw Emerson Lake and Palmer perform this live in 1977. Simply amazing that three people can make this much sound on stage live. It was jaw-dropping! 😀
Something they did which is SUPER clever on vinyl is the 2nd part of 1st Impression where they say "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends" is that you've just turned the record over to side two there. And they welcome you back. One of the best touches ever from the age of vinyl records.
Not to mention the "...and shocks..." editing brilliance!
Tom Petty did a tongue-in-cheek bit on the Full Moon Fever CD about flipping records. After "Running Down a Dream" he says: “Hello, CD listeners. We’ve come to the point in this album where those listening on cassette or record will have to stand up - or sit down - and turn over the record - or tape. In fairness to those listeners, we’ll now take a few seconds before we begin side two. Thank you. Here is side two.”
How the tracks of an album were laid out often had intent and purpose that is lost in the CD/digital age.
Yes, I had forgotten that.
I had totally forgotten about that! Thanks for jarring a memory loose
Greg Lake's guitar work on this song is so underrated... My favorite singer of all time.
Likewise
His guitar work AND the bass line, especially at the beginning in 1st Impression, Part 1.
To be able to hold the stage up against the greatest keyboard player of all time is quite an accomplishment and Greg Lake did it - - - on bass and vocals and electric guitar and especially on his superb acoustic guitar work.
Carl Palmer one of the greatest percussionist ever
i saw Carl Palmer performing when he was in Asia....killer show!
I know A & A love Neil Peart but I think Carl was every bit as good as Neil.
ELP = G.E.N.I.U.S. And the voice of Greg Lake is the most underrated of all time!
With "Karn Evil 9" it's like a musical marathon. Keith Emerson's playing is phenomenal. I was worried Andy and Alex would pass out! Welcome to music made for serious music fans guys.
ELP gained a reputation for pompous,self-indulgent prog rock. And I enjoyed every second of it!
Amen brutha!!!
Sure. When you're 12. You want music that will last a lifetime? Go to Lake's original band.
@@steverickenbacher7110 yeah. There's nothing self indulgent about king crimson.... wow
Don't be a big doink! KC is good self-indulgence, are the most important and influential of the top tier pwog bands and have always had drummers that could keep steady time. These kids looked like they were falling asleep for much of this. That's called "bad self-indulgence". Lake's dream was to reform the original KC - the best band he was ever a part of. In his autobiography, he expressed frustration with Palmer's inability to keep time, and even mentioned that the best drummer he ever played with was Sheila E. So, sit down and smarten up.
RIP Keith Emerson and Greg Lake
RIP Keith Emerson, Greg Lake.
I never tire of hearing this. RIP Keith and Greg. Never equaled let alone bettered. All 3 in a class of their own.
Agreed,makes me stronger just hearing their genius and Carl what a monster ,I'd challenge anyone to match any of them in any genre!!!
This left us speechless in 1973; even in 2020 it has the same effect as it's too "out there" to immediately give a rating to.
Someone told me that, thats how everyone felt when the show ended in '74 when they toured for BSS. Speechless and in a daze..
ELP & YES we're amazing live. This brings back great memories. ELP is so underrated.😍😍
Indeed, but some of us had King Crimson and The Nice to prepare us!
Just a little detail.. When the lyric "Welcome back my friends, to the show that never ends..." plays, that is the beginning of side 2 of the album. As if he was welcoming you back to the music after you'd had to stop and flip the LP. Also, the album art that they used for the album jacket is from the same artist that designed the Xenomorph for the movie Alien, H. R. Giger.. If you can ever find the physical LP jacket, take a look. It opens up to show the rest of the lady's face and a lot more. It also originally came with a wall poster. That's one thing I miss about LP releases, the great artwork and extras. Cheers!
Also the Phallus on the front cover - in front of the girl was airbrushed out for US market!
this LP lives on my living room wall as art, next to Wish You Were Here and Bob Dylan Self Portrait
I would love to have seen the wall poster!
You've got to watch ELP perform this live at the California Jam 1974 - epic performance.
"Lucky Man" is closer in production value to "In the beginning".Next ELP song please.
Yeah 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟💯💯💯
Yes please!
That or Still You Turn Me On"
These are kinda really Greg Lake songs rather than prog.
Fanfair For the Common Man
My mum bought me this album for Christmas 73. A couple of days later I got Topographic Oceans with my pocket money. Those were the days.
Think that every classic prog epic come out in a span of about 6 years (court of the crimson king to relayer).
My favorite band Steely Dan created their timeless masterpieces using the world's top musicians. My second favorite band ELP did it all on their own.
Ok if you don’t want any more frenetic try “Lucky Man” or “Still...you turn me on” Love both pieces. I recommend you watch their sound check of “fanfare for the common man”
I disagree Linda, i consider them rather weak songs, way too mellow for me, though well done, even though Lucky Man is probably their best known song. And sorry, but Fanfare is absolute rubbish to me, completely uninspired and they can play that with their eyes closed. If you want less frenetic, I'd advice Take a Pebble from their first album.
One of my favorite reactions from you two. Today's my birthday, so I'll consider it a birthday present because I'm weird. It's been a while since I listened to the whole thing, but holy shit. It never gets old. Glad you guys gave it a go. Rock on. 🤘😎🍺
Happy birthday!
@unklscrufy
Happy Birthday man!!! ❤️🔥
Happy Birthday, ELP fan!
Happy Birthday!
Happy Birthday (better late than never 🙂)
I’m 61 years old. I’ve been playing music for over 40 years.
I have had 27of my songs played on the radio. I love music and creating music.
But what I want to say is... I have a 1974 SH 1000 Roland synthesizer... i’ve been playing this since 1980. I want to convey how awesome it is to make these sounds! Analog synthesizers are amazing.
I have made every sound that you just heard in your headphones..Rick Wakeman said one time ..that “ Ya guitars are loud but as soon as I play my Synthesizer I cut right through everything I cut through the mix because nothing beats a square wave”...Anyway I love Synth sounds I am doing it for 40 years great song choice take care of young men
Ps: I’m drinking LOL just like you
As a keyboard player coming up in the 70’s, there was Keith Emerson, Rick Wakeman...and the rest! They were like gods to us mere mortals. This is a masterpiece. Big props for tackling the whole thing.
...you forgot Rick Wright, Jon Lord, Tony Banks... 😉
@@jimihendrix991 Great players, but Rick and Keith were on another planet, IMO
Same here. Wakeman's No Earthy Connections is a masterpiece.
Their version of Mussorgsky's Pictures At an Exhibition, got me into Classical Music.
Lucky Man should be next.
Brave of you to take this incredible suite on - I've been listening to ELP since 1970, saw them in 72, 74, 92 and their last show in 2010. (yes, I'm old!). My favourite band, and KE9 is perhaps their crowning glory - and the version on Welcome Back... is even better - they could play all this live., and even found room to improvise amid all the sound and fury. They were fantastic, and how they're not in the so-called Rock And Roll Hall of Fame is a scandal. Emerson was the greatest keyboard player in rock, Lake one of the finest singers (not forgetting his superb abilities on bass and guitar) and Palmer remains one of the world's best drummers even today. Suggest you give Tarkus a shot next - preferably the live version - it's only 27.5 minutes long... ;)
We aren't old. I'm 62 & a grandmother. Listening to all of our generations music I'm 18 again. Can't remember what I did yesterday but remember every word of this. One of my faves.Rock on. ✌
ELP AREN'T IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME? WHAT A TRAVESTY!
@@oldeskoolnana7543 I'm a year your elder. In my mind, I'm 25. When I rarely look in a mirror, I've no idea who is looking back. But, hey, we had the best bands and music growing up didn't we? Peace.
Guys, to put this in terms from the time period (1973) Thought the reaction would never start but finally the bell rang all hell broke loose. Give you guys credit for getting in the ring with a hard puncher like a Joe Frazier type. Probably weren't ready for this type of onslaught. You have been taking on some tomato cans recently. Andy was on the ropes early and after awhile was hanging on for dear life, hoping to survive and make it to the 15th round. Alex on the other hand looked ready to throw in the towel when he swung his mic out but decided to hang in there. Definitely a lot of body punches were absorbed by you both but you were able to stay relatively ( for you guys ) lucid and you were saved by the bell. Alex took a standing 8 count but continued. Andy that's gonna hurt in the morning. Had you behind on my card. Only call them as I see them. Lyrics deal with the post apocalypse, but who cares after a beating like this, at least you got their license number.
I was lucky enough to see ELP live in the 70's. It was amazing to see how they could play their material live and be as good as in the studio. Keith Emerson never really sat down during a show, he had to move around so much from one keyboard to another, and was constantly flipping switches and turning knobs all over the place to produce the needed sounds. Incredible to see and hear. And they had this crazy gimmick where Emerson would strap himself in, and he and his entire piano and keyboards and all would go spinning upside down and all around as he played!
‘Man of steel pray and kneel with fever’s blazing torch, thrust into the face of the night / draws a blade of compassion kissed by countless kings / whose jeweled trumpet words blind his sight”...seriously can you imagine any artist today with something remotely like this kind of lyrical creativity?
Poetry
Today’s artists, except for a very very very small percentage suck.
That’s Pete Sinfield for you. Go to King Crimson, Court of the Crimson King, Epitaph, for us ultimate!👌👌
I meant “his” not “us”!
ELP is an acquired taste. Kind of like pickled herring. Hard to tap your foot to their music. Requires patience and an open mind. Lucky Man received lots of air play.
It was perfect for the 70's though... Some weed, a bong, black lights... just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Check out the live version some time. Keith Emerson literally wrestles with his keys. ELP were pretty much who punk rock raged against.
Bill Bruford, master percussionist for Yes and King Crimson, stated more than once that the whole prog movement was a mistake. Despite some great albums, prog rock turned out to be a dead end. Pointless noodling on keyboards is no better than pointless noodling on the guitar (Cream in their live shows was notorious for this).
To enjoy a piece like this, you truly have to have an appreciation for technical proficiency. As much much lesser keyboard player, this stuff blew me away because it was something I could physically never play.
@@rickintx1125 A lot of great musicians say stupid stuff. Jimmy Page said The Beatles did nothing significant until the 'Magical Mystery Tour' album. John Lennon said all their best stuff was done before their first record! Pay it no mind. Prog had it's time and has proven to be a musically significant period that pushed the boundaries of what rock could be. To reduce extended soloing to "pointless noodling" is stunningly simple minded.
I praise you guys for doing this! BUT....you should have started with Tarkus. Still, major props for giving this whole epic a listen!! It's a great piece of music. Tarkus next!!
Here's an interest story about ELP's song - *Lucky Man* - The band needed one more song to fill out their debut album. They asked each other if they had some old songs just lying around. Greg Lake said he had a song - but he wrote it when he was 12 years old. The group said play it - he did - they modified it to their sound, and it made the album. Not only did it make the album - it became one of their most popular songs - and part of their legend. *Lucky Man* was written by a 12 year old kid in 1959 - go figure.
On one of Greg’s interviews he mentioned that on hearing Greg's original version both Carl and Keith did not like it much, so much so Keith decided to go off to the pub for a drink, Carl and Greg stayed behind and added various instruments into the song to make it sound better, when Keith returned and heard the changes they made he said I suppose I'd better do something too, I’ve just got a new instrument it's called a Moog Synthesizer, it's set up in the next studio, maybe I can use that, so he went to try out the Moog, unfortunately Keith did not know there were no spare tracks left that he could use on the original take, all that could be done was to add onto the end of the last track recorded, their sound engineer Eddy took Keith’s Moog tinkering and tagged it onto the end of the last track and that's how the Moog solo came to be, and the new Lucky Man was born, Greg had to drag Keith into the album studio (as he (Keith) was not happy with his efforts) Greg and Carl both wanted Keith to hear the difference it made, they thought it sounded so good and was just what Lucky Man needed.
@@barryedwards1336 Actually Knife Edge was the filler as he states in an early Melody Maker article & if you have the Pictures at an Exhibition special edition that includes the filmed Live at the Lyceum in London in December 1970 & Mar y Sol concert, Greg says it at the end of The Barbarian just before they play Knife Edge. But it's ELP history now that Lucky Man was the filler because Greg remembered it that way later in life. It's makes for better ELP lore since Lucky Man was a hit. :)
Third album track, "Still...you turn me on" is a great contemporary song that I'm sure you'll both enjoy. Also, from the ELP (dove) album..."Take a pebble" and "Lucky Man". The title song of the Trilogy album is exceptional. Knife Edge from the album Pictures at an exhibition (live)...very raw 50 year old performance and the following song Rondo really jams. An awesome, very unappreciated band...
ELP didn’t just write songs, they wrote compositions that addressed man’s inhumanity to man and drew on their classical and jazz background to project their ideas, back then they were the ultimate progressive rock outfit with a unique sound that left the listener in no doubt about their message, by the age of the punk and new wave generation of course they were considered dinosaurs, but in their time they were giants of the genre.
A&A, I practically wet my pants when I saw you hit the WHOLE THING. You have WAY MORE than paid back my (hopefully gentle) negative comments in the past. I have to get my work done for the day (in Cali) before I can watch/listen, so back later... hope you guys enjoyed listening and reacting to this (imho) absolute pinnacle of prog rock bravura...
Two more ELP suggestions, both covers.
1. Jerusalem. It’s a hymn that’s used in the Church of England.
2. Mussorgsky’s Pictures At An Exhibition
Phenomenal
Yes! Forgot about those two
“Jerusalem” is indeed used as a hymn, but it’s actually an excerpt from one of the radical Romantic poet and artist William Blake’s visionary books, which is anything but conventionally religious.
Knife Edge on this album?
@@sibkiss2009 Knife Edge was the 3rd song on their debut- self titled LP.
Stirring and brilliant.
You just had the pleasure of listening to three of the finest musicians to ever grace a vinyl record. My interpretation of the lyrics is that he's telling a story of a futuristic world where simple things we enjoy today are now rare and in a museum (like "there behind the glass stands a real blade of grass"). This futuristic world may be dystopian or maybe mankind simply destroyed most of what we enjoy today?
I’m pretty sure mankind destroyed most of what we enjoy 😔
Peter Sinfield wrote most of the lyrics he was Greg Lake's lyric partner
" sounds like an old detective movie" check out ELP "Peter Gunn"
Nobody else will suggest this but ELP's live album "Mussorgsky's: Pictures at an exhibition" is truly a masterpiece!
absolutely
"were going to bring you Pictures at an exhibition"! Applause following and rapturous appreciation from the audience that composed of many music students and tutors.
Absof***inglutely!!
sooo true
One of my favorites.
oh shit, I forgot how many parts there were to this. Karn Evil 9 - 1st Impression - Part 2 is a beast!!! If you want to give them another try, I'd recommend "Knife Edge"
Knife Edge they could handle and would still give them a taste of the sound.
Thank you guys. Great choice. I first saw ELP way back in 1974. The played the whole of Karn Evil (Carnival) 9 live. Man they were an excellent live band. All virtuoso's. The song is about a dystopic future. The Carnival displayed rarities that had long disappeared from our world. Hence A real blade of grass, be careful as you pass. Eventually there is a war between man and computer. Man gets wiped out and the computers win. I understand the film rights have been sold and there is a plan to make a film based on this song. Next up try either Tarkus another epic song or Trilogy or if you want Piano genius try Take a Pebble. You need to bear in mind this music is almost 50 years old. Also Keith Emerson worked closely with Bob Moog himself and helped pioneer and develop the Moog Synthesizer. Look forward to the next ELP song.
Like I said, ELP is big. They're bombastic. And after they throw the kitchen sink at you, they tear the pipes out of the wall and throw those at you as well.
You had absolutely no way to anticipate what you were about to hear, and honestly, I can't imagine what any of us could've said to prepare you. Gentlemen, it was a pure pleasure to watch you leap into this particular rabbit hole. Your bravery will be rewarded.
Indeed, great to see a couple of young man not afraid to have this kind of musical adventure.
"Huevos Grandes" 8s what it took to leap into this one, thank you for doing so! Should have the time to watch any of their live concerts from the early - mid 70's, please do so. These guys put on a first class show that everyone dancing in their seats. 🎶😁👍
Who knows? Maybe ELP will open the door to Ellington, Miller, and Goodman!
All three musicians were pure virtuosos at their instruments. Emerson's keyboards and Palmers drumming are obvious, but listen to what Greg Lake was doing bass behind that keyboard break at the 15.15 minute mark (on the video - about 13.30 minutes in to the track). The white-water rafting analogy is a good one. You just gotta hold on for the ride. As you probably know it was Lake also on the vocals - and he was also the vocalist on early King Crimson (who you've done a lot of on your patreon videos) - 21st Century Schizoid Man, etc.
Do all of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway by Genesis next. Any Peter Gabriel era Genesis
Definitely Lamb Lies Down. That whole album blew me away when I first heard it. I was literally stunned. The problem is it's a concept album, so taking a single song out of it would be like reading ten pages of a novel.
The Lamb Lies Down is in my absolute favorite album of all time. It is a true masterpiece.
Really, there's so much great long-form Genesis material, even after Peter left. Even after Steve Hackett left, too! The entire Lamb record might be a bit much for a video, but Supper's Ready or Dance on a Volcano would be great.
All great, but I would consider “Selling England by the Pound” the 101 class for Gabriel-era Genesis. But second Supper’s Ready and add The Musical Box from Nursery Cryme.
My first Genesis album was Selling England by the Pound...I’m still amazed by the title track. Yah, Lamb Lies Down is breathtaking but for licks, I’ll take Selling England by the Pound.
Listening to this song for the first time is akin to never having tasted pie, and then entering a pie eating contest......and winning!
Perfectly stated lol
I was in the 4th grade when this album came out. I was playing with my best friend at his house when his older brother came home and told us you guys have to come listen to this new ELP record. We went to his room and listened to the entire thing (like you guys are now). Unbelievable, Amazing, etc. definately shaped my lifes musical journey. Watching you two react to this puts me right back in that room soo long ago. Thanx for triggering that memory. As a lifelong ELP fan I would recommend side 1 of Tarkus. My personal favorite.
Since you’re doing this long prog piece, you MUST do Jethro Tull’s Thick as a Brick in it’s entirety
I've been saying this for well over a year now. :D
I totally agree! Prepare to be speechless yet again Guys! 🔥🔥🔥
Or at least side 1
If you are gonna listen to TAAB you have to listen to the whole thing or don't bother.
And Rush 2112, start to finish. Goosebumps at the end.
This is astonishing!!! I am 62 and never heard it until now--arguably the greatest Prog Rock song ever!!!!!! And that assessment comes with only one listening!!!
Better late than never. 👍🏻
I have to wonder what rock were you under?????@@williamscoggin1509
But to be fair all i listened to was prog rock from 1970s. I was lucky enough to have brothers or I would have missed RUSH
Have you been living under a rock?
Talking over the "seven virgins and a mule" line.... tsk tsk tsk
One of the best comments here. When I first heard that line many, many years ago as a teenaged boy -- and made sure I understood that's in fact what Greg was singing -- I had the simultaneous feeling of excitement and revulsion. It really started cementing what the whole piece was about (to me).
@@robertsilver5130 Keep it cool, keep it cool.
Karn Evil 9 News: In February, it was announced that there will be a Science Fiction film made based on this song!
YES!
That's amazing. I can't even imagine.............
Read the lyrics to the first part. Its scarily close to the truth that has been hidden for years. The world is waking up.
You gotta do Roll with the Changes from REO Speedwagon! Great driving song and a absolute banger!
Check Rachel Flowers playing parts of this glorious piece and tarkus. She is the legacy.
Oh Hell Yeah!!! She is mind blowing elite!!!
Fantastic in that Emerson Tribute
She is incredible and yet she is only a small part of this bands vast legacy. Emerson is the most influential electric keyboardplayer ever!
Gary Webster, because of this post I did a search of Rachel Flowers. Now I’m a total fan, as I was of ELP in my teens. Her obvious Love of Keith and ELP brings a tear to my eye. The legend lives on. Thanks.
She is amazing. The best to carry the legacy of ELP
What about those drums though? Give Carl some love.
Well, it takes a lot of whiskey to plow through that! But if you can handle Karn Evil 9, you definitely owe it to yourselves to listen to what I consider their masterpiece: Tarkus.
If you want to dive into some epic prog I suggest:
Supper's Ready by Genesis
The Gates Of Delerium by Yes
Thick As A Brick by Jethro Tull
Mind you, Thick As A Brick is the entire album but it's only one song. It's split into 2 parts because it was spread across 2 sides of the album. The Yes and Genesis tracks are more manageable at 22 and 23 minutes, respectively. Most Genesis fans consider Supper's Ready to be their best song. By the way, First Impression part 2 was a big radio hit for ELP back in the day.
@@ianmc8671 The title alone warrants a listen. Plus it's a great song, so there's that.
@@ianmc8671 I think CTTE blew them away. Being prog virgins its hard to react to 18 minutes of greatness. The album is one of the greatest prog albums of all time and has been voted on in many polls.
Once they've assimilated Supper's Ready and maybe a few other Genesis epics, they should experience The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway in one sitting, the way it's meant to be heard!
Yes, Gates of Delirium. No doubt
Peter Gabriel era Genisis!!
Peter Gabriel solo!!!!
Phil Collins great drummer.
Turns Genisis into pop band.
Solo Phil Collins VS solo,Peter Gabriel.
Both way talented though I'm going with Gabrie!
Gents, I'm sure you felt audibly sandblasted after this epic. This is one of those mind blowing prog classics and a bit overbearing on the first listen. Keep in mind these works are like symphonies, i.e. Shostakovich's 11th, Beethoven's 9th. It will take multiple listens, they take you through the full gamut of feelings and emotions through diverse musical styles. And let's not leave out the talent of those three, stellar!
First listen and I get what you r saying with regards to symphonies,, probably like suppers ready by genesis needs two or three listens to get it.
I mentioned in another post that ELP was along with Yes, my gateway to classical music. It opened my 13yo mind up to music on the whole in the early 80's. If people have never been, I recommend going to a symphony concert. The first time I went to one, the orchestra performed Beethoven's 6th (Pastoral Symphony).... I Cried....full out tears down my cheeks.....I was so embarrassed, but it was so beautiful my emotions poured out....Had to listen to Iron Maiden on the way home to recover my manhood. Lol....
@@modifish68 Yes, good analogy on the gateway, I agree. I played trombone in band, so had a little exposure to different genres, i.e.,symphonic band. But Yes and ELP covering classical music pieces, along with the mellotron usage by so many prog bands lured me into classical full bore. I would say prog and classical take up 70% of my musical diet now.
You really needed to see them do this live to appreciate the incredible musicianship of all three members. I was lucky enough to see them several times. Always amazing.
The next Emerson Lake and Palmer song should be the magically hauntingly melodic C’est La Vie. This will showcase their true range from Karn Evil to this hypnotic song
Is Greg Lake's voice the best, or what?
"welcome to the show", guys. Perhaps most amazing is that ELP played this stuff live exactly as you heard it on the recording. They were like a runaway bullet train. One of a kind.
This is a deeper dive than I would recommend to new ELP listeners... but here you are, better off for the experience! Next up try Still You Turn Me On (more like From The Beginning) or Fanfare For The Common Man (more like Karn Evil Part 2.)
Blane Mather - I agree with both of your recommendations. “Still...” has a wild guitar wha-wha lick. “Fanfare” is an extended piece, but certainly more approachable than much of the full “Karn”.
I also like “I Believe in Father Christmas”. If A&A ever did a holiday song review, I’d recommend that one! 💯
****** DAAAAA BEARS ******
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... still suck!
Agree.....very sophisticated piece of music. More like classical compositions. Think my boys can handle it.
Blane Mather Still you turn Me on is a great song.
“Overstimulated” is the perfect comment. This song is like a long swirling movie, you need to sit back and relax and just listen and go where it goes. It’s absolutely a masterpiece. ELP was hated by the critics and loved by music fans. Keith Emerson was so amazingly better than everyone else, he made Carl Palmer and Greg Lake, both great musicians, almost an afterthought.
I was just thinking about how pissed I'd get reading dismissive reviews of their work. I had locked in for so many years into the live versions that I hadn't listened to the studio version on BSS in quite some time. I forgot some of the brilliant nuances.
@J Croston then as now...fuck the critics.
Today I got to watch two college students zone out, have their minds blown and run a mental marathon. Its a good time to be alive when the music of my youth reaches the next generation. Kudos guys. Be sure to pass this on to your future young ones and give my love to the future of humankind.
'SCHOOL' - SUPERTRAMP
Keith Emerson was a mad man on keyboards and Carl Palmer (the only one still with us) is up there with Pert and Bonham in my opinion. But the top for me is Greg Lake on guitar. He has a touch not unlike David Gilmour. Thanks for this long version. Lucky Man would be my next pick.
This was music that was given to us as teenagers, he would lay on the floor, relax completely, and trust them to take your consciousness to a journey of brain stimulation, but for us was normal it wasn't intense, was done to feed the brain level of a generation use to very intellectually high level stimulation from all arts: We were bombarded from every angle, at 14 I was listening to ELP, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Rolling Stones, Deep Purple, etc. they where on the radio, on the top ten chart. We were reading 5 books at the same times, and the book that was trending/cool to read was Freud "The interpretation of dreams" at fourteen. We were watching Bergman, Antonioni, Fellini, films. This kind of music to us was what my generation required to be stimulated. But I understand that now seams a lot, you guys have lost the power of let it go completely, because to let go it require your brain to be fearless, and this generation lost that. The metaphor of being on a wild river rapids and worrying to stay afloat fearing of drowning, is exactly that, we wouldn't have that fear we were, for your standards, "brain reckless" if you like, wild water rapids was our teenager playground and we where masters of that playground.
If you want musically dense, Gates of Delirium by Yes.
GOD LIVE!
Andy: "How can we hit the human mind from every single angle!"
Me: hold my beer! Play Tocatta (same album)
hahaha.... yes, please play Tocatta. I'm giving 2 to 1 odds that your heads actually explode listening to that. LOL!
any live version of Tocatta is better. .
@@lawrence1389u The original composer Ginastera actually liked it!
I would suggest listening to the studio version of toccata and then listen to the live version from welcome back and it is absolutely stunning.
I was sitting relaxing here in Spain and the notification popped up.... I've never hit the watch button so fast. So fast in fact that there were no comments available when I watched. I even managed to get the first like in.
ANYWAY: As for the next, how about giving "Trilogy" a go.
I agree with Trilogy. My daughter took piano lessons for 10 years. I finally got her to listen to ELP by playing Trilogy. The piano in it blew her away and got her more into classic/prog rock, and into modern rock bands that have a classic rock sound.
“Purple...maybe...
72 degrees...
I don’t know!
Corn?
I don’t know...”
I haven’t laughed that hard in a while, thank you.
Honest, and hilarious.
Perfect.
Listening to all of Karn Evil 9 is pretty close to sensory overload. First Impression Part 2 was what most listen to, and so much easier to digest.
OldeDude15x I was never a fan of theirs, but I had always assumed that Karen Evil 9 was just the part I used to hear on the radio. I never realized that was just part of an epic.
Go listen to Rachel Flowers' piano only version of this song. She and Keith became friends after she got well known on the internet for killing the keyboard parts. Rachel is blind and I think her outlet was piano. She master many of their songs. Keith Emerson introduced the video where she was the first to try his rebuilt Moog from the early years. She and Rick Wakeman are the main two keyboardists in the tribute concert after Keith passed. She also played lead guitar with Zappa plays Zappa and had an online teaching video about how to play a Jaco Pastorius song. Oh, yeah, she also has a couple of discs of originals out. What would make you think I'm a fan? Start with Karn Evil 9 Second Impression...
Listen to Carl Palmer on drums. He has as much going on as the others. He may be the greatest drummer of his era.
Without a doubt!
I’ll probably get flamed for this, but Palmer’s time keeping is pretty terrible. Emerson’s timing is rock solid by contrast. Just listen to how Palmer’s tempo just moves around all over the place, pushing and pulling on Emerson. it drives me nuts. And don’t give me the “he’s playing with feel” argument. I’m sorry, the guy just cannot keep time. LIsten to the contrast when Cozy Powell replaced Palmer with Emerson, Lake and Powell. Cozy Powell is a machine, he and Emerson and Lake were tight as can be rhythmically. That lineup kicked ass.
@@Unibabble I agree. Palmer has incredible speed/technical skills, but his tempo and feel are not very good. He can't groove very well.
Maybe some King Crimson would be in order?!
21st Century Schizoid Man - King Crimson... the Bass player for ELP was also in King Crimson. and 21st Century Schizoid Man is pretty accessible
For "accessible" King Crimson, I'd advise "Epitaph" or "Court of the Crimson King"
21 Century Schizoid Man. Crimson is a blocker, but Lake and Gary Moore do a great live version.
If you're talking King Crimson let's not forget Adrian Belew.
King Crimson will be blocked. See Rick Beato's recent video.
They have done it on their Patreon channel, along with a few other King Crimson songs.
This was great! Please listen next to Lucky Man and Still You Turn Me On.
You two are extremely brave musically! Great song(s)! By the way, Keith Emerson live was known to jump on top of his keyboards and play or play on the stage and play the keyboards laying on top of him! Check out the album Court of the Crimson King, when Greg Lake (ELP Bassist) was in King Crimson. That's another interesting band as well. Sorry for rambling!
kieth also stabbed the key board with daggers given to him by lemmy of motorhead
@@davexvs I saw a couple of those "knife shows" It was crazy!
Unfortunately you can’t play any King Crimson on YT. Robert Fripp is a notorious blocker..
Funny to watch the stunned mullet looks after the end of the piece..... looks like you really had Brain Salad Surgery..... just wait until you hear ELP - Toccata and/or Tarkus Suite.
I heard parts of this in college back in the 80s, but never the whole thing. This is amazing. I was agreeing with you guys. It's not music, it's its own universe.
The reason 1st impression has a long bit and then a subsequent, 'condensed' bit was due to the need to split the music over two sides of vinyl.
Ironically, Keith was such a consummate musician that after having medical issues and nerve damage that had basically left him with only the use of 3 fingers on each hand, he chose to commit suicide rather than face an upcoming Japan tour, not wishing to disappoint his fans. On most of ELP's other work, especially the Works Volume 1 and 2 albums, you find some of Keith's best classical and jazz work. Carl Palmer was one of the premier drummers of the time also playing for the super-group Asia. Greg Lake on bass and guitar came from King Crimson and IMHO recorded some of the best vocals in the rock / prog-rock era. H.R. Giger painted the album cover for Brain Salad Surgery. He also designed the alien creatures in the Alien movies. The model for the album cover was Giger's model / partner Li Tobler.
Maybe, but he had that issue for 20 years. I saw him interviewed about a month before and he looked perfectly happy. Just because his girlfriend said that doesn't make it true. Could be other issues. But could also be antidepressants. Who knows.
Don't leave Pete Sinfield out of the credits for amazing contributions. Absolutely stunning and timeless lyrics.
Palmer is 70 now and still absolutely wails! one of the all time greats.. All 3 of them were the leaders in there craft.. Nobody has reached Emerson's talent and showmanship. Emerson GOAT.
By the way, I love your comments. It is SO good to see guys your age diving into this and getting hit the same way we did in '73/4. You get blown away and it's like "Ohhhh, so THIS is what you can do with rock music if you REALLY have talent!" It's real emotional to hear this stuff again and to see that you guys get it. Thanks for this video.
Yes! This is what we did and still do! Listening to all the great vinyl with headphones! Grew up with this.
Pirates! Totally accessible - beautifully orchestrated - you'll love it!
One of my personal favorites!
Only English musicians could have written this. You really need to listen to all their stuff. Trilogy is amazing!!!