Is This The Most Disturbed Family in America? Meet the Galvin Family (Documentary)

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  • Come meet what is described as the most disturbing family in America--the Galvin family. This video details the mental illness (schizophrenia) and chaos that ran rampant through what appeared to be an All-American family, but was something else entirely.
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  • @BlackRhetoric
    @BlackRhetoric  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    Don't forget to leave a comment and let me know what you think about the case. Until next time.

    • @raedavis1697
      @raedavis1697 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      This is the first video I've watched of yours and I thought it was excellent. Very interesting and tragic at the same time.
      You've gained a new subscriber, keep up the good work 🙂🙂

    • @LeahDyson-kq4bd
      @LeahDyson-kq4bd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      No offense but if you have PTSD it might not be a good idea to have 12 kids

    • @audreyharalambos2592
      @audreyharalambos2592 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@LeahDyson-kq4bd there wasn’t much in the form of contraception in those days, not like today where you have a choice pill,condoms,the coil or the injection, large families were also the norm for many people xx

    • @TheAngelahp
      @TheAngelahp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stop talking shite.

    • @maryannallen9885
      @maryannallen9885 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I love big families my aunts one had 10 and the other 8 kids
      I’m an only child and if I could’ve changed it, I certainly would’ve😢

  • @dorisfaulkner9721
    @dorisfaulkner9721 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

    They say trauma ‘’loads the weapon’’ of predisposed mental illness. My only brother (with 5 sisters) developed schizophrenia around age 20. He was highly intelligent, talented, funny, and creative. It’s absolutely heart-wrenching to witness a loved one lose their mind.. their grip on reality

    • @SuthernSunshine
      @SuthernSunshine หลายเดือนก่อน

      My husband started showing symptoms at 24 years but I attributed it to bad news or something. But after we married and had children he was fully schizophrenic bipolar effective(or something). He passed at 39 due to his illness. Just as I learnt that a total zero carb diet removes the symptoms. So sad to learn its a brain glucose metabolism issue.

    • @adamqmarcinko3880
      @adamqmarcinko3880 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But with 5 wimmin to handle all his life...just saying

    • @SuthernSunshine
      @SuthernSunshine หลายเดือนก่อน

      @adamqmarcinko3880 My dad had a matriachal mum, two older sisters then 4 girls. He drank. 🤣😂 I felt sad for him. But he got on with my husband.

    • @Sparkle3421
      @Sparkle3421 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @SuthernSunshineschizoaffective disorder ?

    • @SuthernSunshine
      @SuthernSunshine 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Sparkle3421 Schizophrenia Bipolar Effective Disorder .. Something complicated like that. Now its cured practically by being completely carb free, no additives so mostly carnivor. It a glucose metabolism disorder. So simple and so sad. Its always best to stay on meds even if symptom free however, is the advice for now.

  • @sheryldalton8965
    @sheryldalton8965 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +180

    If your father never called you by name but by a number i'd venture to say there was no love or warmth given.

    • @PatrickBaptist
      @PatrickBaptist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Typical military household, been there couldn't pay me to go back.

    • @Gizathecat2
      @Gizathecat2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The father may have had undiagnosed schizophrenia

    • @christineveazey3705
      @christineveazey3705 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, I think early childhood molestation has a large part in causing schizophrenia. I could be wrong. Brain proteins clogging up the works? I'm not partial to that idea.

    • @hayleymerchant7689
      @hayleymerchant7689 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PatrickBaptist i could only imagine the rigidity you had to navigate through as a child, I can imagine showing any emotion especially being a boy wasn’t allowed.

  • @rangitoiachase711
    @rangitoiachase711 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +391

    The father was absent most of the time. Blame has been put on the mother. So unfair.

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      9/10 the mother gets blamed even when the father is completely absent.

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @OffTheWagons exactly. Perfectly stated.

    • @Littlemouse884
      @Littlemouse884 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Yeah it's always the way

    • @tm13tube
      @tm13tube 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Unfair. I know from having four a good part of raising them is herd care. There aren’t enough hours in the day to raise a group with the tendency to schizophrenia and another group without. It wasn’t like the three oldest had it.

    • @louwannaclark3334
      @louwannaclark3334 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      It’s a cop out to blame the parents. And yes, every therapist, psychologist, blames the mom

  • @maureenbuck4795
    @maureenbuck4795 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +302

    Child sexual molestation has profound impact on mental health.

    • @aruglaempire2518
      @aruglaempire2518 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      WHAT????!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!

    • @Michelle-n7f
      @Michelle-n7f 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      100% 🎯❗

    • @annemaria5126
      @annemaria5126 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@maureenbuck4795 every kind of molestation. But...how well parents try do do 'good', thay will allways! fail. Not because they really mess things up (many do actually), but because the child misunderstands their words, their actions, etc.. Starts thinking and worrying, keeps a distance and things start to take a bad turn and an even badder outcome. For all involved. So....TALK and keep talking, explaining yourself, open, without restrictions. And LISTEN...to the words, the gestures made, the mimics, the actions. And allways keep at least a window open. A look-out...

    • @maureenbuck4795
      @maureenbuck4795 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @annemaria5126 I think the issues are deeper than a simple misunderstanding. This concept expects human beings to be mind readers. When a child knows the parent will protect them and listen to them, that, in itself, is a divine gift.

    • @debrajones4010
      @debrajones4010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@annemaria5126the children look up to the parents and don’t expect them to fail because they’re the ones that are teaching them the lessons of life. But because the parents are not perfect, they’re absolutely gonna fail and the children don’t understand how to take that. It’s like the parents are still learning themselves. They’ve never been parents before so they learn as they go. It’s not like any parent has had the opportunity to test their parenting skills before they have children. I know if I could do it all over again, I’d definitely do things totally different than I did. And I don’t think that schizophrenia comes from the ways of parenting but yet comes from genetics. Although I do see some tendencies that can make it worse for a schizophrenia person that comes from the parents. I myself suffer from mental illness such as depression and anxiety which have stemmed from not being the person that my mother wants me to be and no matter how hard I try to fight it, it doesn’t just go away. I am a people pleaser and when I get overwhelmed bc I can’t please everyone around me, I fall into a deep state of depression and my anxiety is through the roof. With it also comes anger and I’ve never had anger issues. But the older I get, the worse it gets. I feel like if I’m blessed to live, that I’ll more than likely develop dementia.

  • @elizabarry9094
    @elizabarry9094 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Mental health was considered a taboo topic at the time these kids were forced to adjust to it. Mental illness was considered something to be ashamed of, so it was hidden, rather than treated. It's such a sad way to live.

  • @Adasteia
    @Adasteia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    Violence within families is more prevalent than most people want to admit ! If you were born into a normal family you are truly Blessed !
    For all Victims, I pray for you everyday !

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yes. My family didn’t have it all but I’m thankful every day I grew up without abuse.

    • @Adasteia
      @Adasteia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BlackRhetoric
      I am grateful you didn't grew up with it too ! I grew up with rampant and sometimes truly terrifying abuse. My siblings continued it in our adulthood until I went No Contact !. It took me many years to be grateful for it in part. I have to believe it was meant to be because what spung out of that was the knowledge that all you need is God and He is Everything !. Thus abuse, in part became a Blessing !
      When you learn that all else falls into place ! God Bless !
      ✝️🌿

    • @lisasmith6000
      @lisasmith6000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’ve always said, a crazy, dysfunctional family, is a normal family. 🤪🤪🤪🤪

    • @SearraEleeceJackson
      @SearraEleeceJackson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🙏🏽❤️‍🩹

    • @moderatelyacidicjew
      @moderatelyacidicjew 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlackRhetoricThank Gd.

  • @burningsandsexploration3711
    @burningsandsexploration3711 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    6 out of 12 children have Schizophrenia. Oh, my lord, what a tremendous heartbreak and burden.

    • @carlamarlene2927
      @carlamarlene2927 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      The abuse they subjected the younger siblings to makes the area of damage much larger. Did any children survive unscathed?

    • @k9maiden64
      @k9maiden64 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@carlamarlene2927 How could they, this is just horrific.

    • @moderatelyacidicjew
      @moderatelyacidicjew 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @burningsandsexploration3711

    • @moderatelyacidicjew
      @moderatelyacidicjew 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @burningsandsexploration3711 You are an adult telling other adults that abuse victims are a Federal burden.

    • @bettytrayner8010
      @bettytrayner8010 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please tell me that's not true.

  • @andreabennington
    @andreabennington 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

    No, not the most disturbed family in America.
    These poor parents. Especially the Mother at home parenting by herself most of the time and being BLAMED for the disease in her sons by psychiatrists of the 1960's who thought her parenting style CAUSED Schizophrenia! Thank goodness we know a little more about this mental illness today.

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      I mostly agree with you. Though I do blame the parents for turning a blind eye to the physical and sexual abuse some of the brothers inflicted on their siblings. That was wrong.

    • @patriciafinn5717
      @patriciafinn5717 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Her poor body...😢😢😢

    • @patriciafinn5717
      @patriciafinn5717 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      This abuse is still happening in families..but hey they smile and hide brutality...😢😢😢

    • @NightMystique13
      @NightMystique13 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With that many children, it’s no wonder their mental health issues went unchecked. The violence and animal abuse were indicative of worse things in the future. Obviously there was a strong genetic component which is triggered by trauma.

    • @johnbgood52
      @johnbgood52 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most psychiatrists are crazier than their patients. You can take this with as many grains of salt as you like, but for my money, psychiatry is a perfect example of junk science.

  • @brendanaderifar2462
    @brendanaderifar2462 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    My heart goes out to all families that suffer mental illness. Most of my life has been devoted to trying to help my Mother and my Sister. I've been in therapy more than half of my life and at 72 remain there. My maternal great grandmother may have marked the beginnings of this disease. I pray for an angel at bedtime to look after my 63 y/o sister out there in the world. I received word via phone call yesterday from a motorist that she had stopped on major bridge when she saw my Sister slumped over the bridge crossing the Mississippi river. There is nothing more l can do but pray. I'm exhausted from decades of this. I now am in a stage 4 disease and am lost about what to do say or think about all of this. I have taken up her funeral plan along with mine. I feel it's all l can do to help now. I'm writing to let all know just how serious mental illness is. It's a lifetime of dealing with pain and living with uncertainty usually daily. Please pray for my Sister to somehow and someway to overcome. It's become enough for me to be able to sleep at night.

    • @CarmenLucia.
      @CarmenLucia. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What is your family’s diagnosis?

    • @brendanaderifar2462
      @brendanaderifar2462 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Mom was paranoid schizophrenia. She was also self medicating with valium and alcohol early on in my Sisters life and in my early high school years. Also our Dad was an alcoholic. Our Mom was very physically and verbally abusive. As a senior in HS l had to go before a judge have a lunacy sworn out to have her picked up for observation. She held us at gunpoint behind our locked door for 2 days. My sister has been a drug addict beginning in her early teens. Sorry to unload this much info, but believe me, l needed to release this and free my soul if only for awhile.

    • @Stitcher_in_MD
      @Stitcher_in_MD 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Bless you. Mental health issues are so very difficult for us to try to understand. Keep doing what you can for yourself and stay engaged with life. I’m 73. My oldest son was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia when he was in his 30’s. He was 42 when he died of an infection that went to his brain. In his state of mind, he did not seek medical treatment for a spinal wound because he thought everyone was an enemy and wanted to hurt him. My heart hurts for him and I miss him every day.He has been gone for 6 years today, July 28. I pray for everyone who is experiencing any sort of mental health issue. I always remember the good person that my son was and how much he didn’t want me to worry about him. I hope you have some good memories too.

    • @brendanaderifar2462
      @brendanaderifar2462 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CarmenLucia. Paranoid schizophrenia bipolar

    • @brendanaderifar2462
      @brendanaderifar2462 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Stitcher_in_MD I will pray for your peace to return to you.He is gone and not in pain any longer. It is the people left that will remain scattered until they no longer are. Do you have a family history of this and do have have an idea where it started

  • @nope123-w6d
    @nope123-w6d 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    I think the questions should begin at, the father called them not by their names, but by their birth order number.

    • @Michelle-n7f
      @Michelle-n7f 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I'm thinking of calling people by number in the order I first see them each day.

    • @danielwilkins7509
      @danielwilkins7509 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Perhaps, having suffered, from a severe case, of P.T.S.D., after several close calls, as a secret agent (OSS?), during WWII? Spent the rest of his life, living, in a family of spies, even if they didn't know why. And so, NAMES were too dangerous, numbers were safe enough.

    • @lesleyofferhall8133
      @lesleyofferhall8133 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My thoughts exactly!

    • @R.Oates7902
      @R.Oates7902 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's messed up!
      He helped name these kids and can't be bothered to remember their names?!

    • @user-bv9vn4wt8l
      @user-bv9vn4wt8l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      totally! and many ppl want to blame the mother! with Schizophrenia, i don’t believe it’s cause is by how they’re raised but maybe the way it’s managed or dealt with that may help

  • @ingridfong-daley5899
    @ingridfong-daley5899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    The two sisters didn't "feel" neglected and endangered--they were quite literally endangered (by sibling r*pists) and passively neglected. @15:19

  • @Lisa-mw6te
    @Lisa-mw6te 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +294

    And this is why huge families are not a positive thing. No one can give proper attention to constant new babies while still caring for toddlers and preschoolers.

    • @deborahallenbaugh2110
      @deborahallenbaugh2110 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      The problem was schizophrenia not haveing too many siblings

    • @birgittkellermann1420
      @birgittkellermann1420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Look at the Duggar-Family: 19 kids and many questions...

    • @maribethspence9458
      @maribethspence9458 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Not totally true. My grandma had several kids, my dad the third from the last and for the most part they were all fairly well balanced. Well maybe not perfect, but none of them ever did anything disturbing. Some might have party a bit to hard when younger but that was the extent of their mischief

    • @anonymiss495
      @anonymiss495 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​​@@deborahallenbaugh2110mental illness and behavioural issues are far more likely in large families particularly when they breed their own if you know what I mean ,parents just pretty much leave them to it as well.

    • @Musicball
      @Musicball 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      That's a ridiculous statement regarding large families. I know far too many of them that did not have this problem, while knowing far too many "small" families that do. Good mothers and fathers are able to multitask.

  • @alisong2328
    @alisong2328 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    Schizophrenia is often diagnosed too late to keep it from passing on to another generation. My friend's two sons decided not to marry or have kids due to their father's schizophrenia, and one of them ended up committing suicide in his 50's, after suffering from the disease.

    • @Imissyoulou
      @Imissyoulou 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It's in the DNA in some cases or an event can set it off.

    • @ericrivera8410
      @ericrivera8410 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Usually in early twenties I knew a schizophrenic with six personalities

    • @Maariu01
      @Maariu01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Its not hereditary because my uncle has it and his kids dont

    • @tracycraft2971
      @tracycraft2971 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I agree. My family has a long history of mental illness in the form of depression and anxiety. I wasn’t diagnosed till my early forties which made a huge difference in my life and my children’s mental health. I wish my mother had gotten help in her lifetime.

    • @dw3403
      @dw3403 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@Maariu01 it can skip a generation. My ex's mother had it and so did her brother. None of her kids do far have shown it. Borderline and an undiagnosed son she did have.

  • @jeanetteschauerman908
    @jeanetteschauerman908 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +350

    Psychiatrists are often crazier than their patients.

    • @Debra-gs6dd
      @Debra-gs6dd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      My dad always believed that.😂

    • @ericrivera8410
      @ericrivera8410 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      My psychiatrist misdiagnosed me I was bipolar mania and tried to force me to take seroquel meant for schizophrenia ot made ne sick

    • @FourteenWords-n4l
      @FourteenWords-n4l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ericrivera8410
      Empathy. I was tricked into taking olanzepine. I'm stuck on it now. The witdrawls are terrifying. I'm so fckng angry when I think about it.

    • @ritadyer9295
      @ritadyer9295 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Yeah. My nephew had to go to a mental hospital for a couple of weeks. My brother said the mentally ill were running the mental hospital.

    • @burningsandsexploration3711
      @burningsandsexploration3711 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      I had a friend who was a psychiatrist. She was loony toons. She told me that psychiatrists are as crazy as their patients.

  • @jasminec8295
    @jasminec8295 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +199

    Very sad to see the multigenerational mental health and sexual abuse/molestation.

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Hopefully the cycle has ended.

    • @Imissyoulou
      @Imissyoulou 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mental illness can run in families.

    • @charmaynebruce6215
      @charmaynebruce6215 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes, it surely is.

  • @Dawna-gp1zk
    @Dawna-gp1zk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Please note: Schizophrenic individuals are NOT typically violent or sex offenders. Paranoia and depression are not always characteristic of schizophrenia. Genetics and environmental trauma contribute to this condition. Inheritance of specific genes may or may not lead to schizophrenia - depending on one's circumstances ,it may or may not be exhibited and to varying degrees.

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Good to know. I had never heard of schizophrenia causing sexual violence or otherwise.

    •  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right? What instead: psychopathy and mind control through trauma (sexual).

    • @bockgirl
      @bockgirl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please note: schizophrenic people are WAY more prone to violence and being sex offenders. My mother was schophrenic. Don't tell us what they don't do. We KNOW what they do. We have lived it.

  • @elinthaugvikberglund90
    @elinthaugvikberglund90 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I worked in psychiatric hospital and I was surprised how many in there were victims of Child Abuse! That catholic priest is the first to blame!

    •  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Organized. And mind control.

  • @tracycraft2971
    @tracycraft2971 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    I’m wondering how much of their psychological issues weren’t brought on by the father. I will say that children learn what was normal in their own private homes. My own family suffer from depression and anxiety, from grandparents, parents, children and grandchildren. It’s a vicious cycle but myself and my own children are able to recognize and be proactive in our own mental health. You can’t break the chain but you can be educated and seek help. It has made a huge difference in myself and my children.

    • @cathykrueger4899
      @cathykrueger4899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Rather than brought on by their father, I would think inherited from their father. And fostered by useless mental health care system that is only mildly improved since the time this family struggled with this.

    • @lisaindahouse1304
      @lisaindahouse1304 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Abuse of any kind can trigger underlying mental disorders. It's sad 😢

    • @kaliedimand9067
      @kaliedimand9067 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some of it could have been environment, but mental illnesses like schizophrenia are passed down through genes and it usually skips a generation. My thought is that one of the parents have mental illness in their familial history, or something the father encountered during the war was passed down to his children. Either way, I'm interested in the parents' family mental health history.

  • @dancingnature
    @dancingnature 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    My grandmother came from a very large family. She had only one child because as one of the older girls, she was stuck with all those younger siblings

    • @Dawna-gp1zk
      @Dawna-gp1zk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sad. I loved caring for my younger siblings.

    • @daisy4750
      @daisy4750 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It’s not the responsibility of older children to care for younger ones it’s the responsibility the mother and father who made them. Practice birth control if you don’t want to take care of your children.

    • @Lydweena
      @Lydweena 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She already raised a huge family and was ready for some time off.

    • @nreynolds75243
      @nreynolds75243 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My mother's sentiments exactly. She was the oldest of 7 and got stuck with all the work. So I ended up being the only child. 😊

    • @4itGrow
      @4itGrow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My Mom was one of 12 siblings my Dad was one of 21. I’m an only child.

  • @RavenWolf2moons
    @RavenWolf2moons 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    My mom was schizophrenic. Im a twin my brother was perfection in her eyes. She called me the beast😢

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      That's terrible. I pray every day for kids growing up in situations like yours.

    • @raedavis1697
      @raedavis1697 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I can't imagine how hard that was for you to grow up in that environment, it's so sad to think of children in a situation like that. 😢❤

    • @martiseelye6443
      @martiseelye6443 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      🫂 that was her, not your fault. You are not a beast 🫂

    • @joannewatts9892
      @joannewatts9892 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm sorry 😔

    • @carolann3249
      @carolann3249 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Horrible of her , stay strong

  • @PJAC1
    @PJAC1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    You should read their story, Hidden Valley Road. It is very well written!! It must have been so difficult having so many of your children diagnosed with such an invasive mental disease!!

    • @debrawise2061
      @debrawise2061 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think I will . I’d like to learn more about the Family.

    • @Renee60722
      @Renee60722 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I read it years ago and also recommend it.

    • @MsMarple
      @MsMarple 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I appreciate the recommendation. I do not, however, believe they were all schizophrenic. They were SA’d by a pervert early in life, which I believe can change children physically, not just mentally. It may also have been a “perfect storm” of factors. But, the effects of sustained child abuse is grossly underestimated, mostly for legal/financial reasons as we see with the Catholic Church.

    • @AnnieBooker
      @AnnieBooker 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was just about to rec the book.

    • @Renee60722
      @Renee60722 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MsMarple That's interesting. I don't remember a pervert in the book, but it's typical for me to forget things like that. SA would explain a lot. My clearest memory is what they did to birds of prey to "train" them.

  • @athensmajnoo3661
    @athensmajnoo3661 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    This is scary......
    I can imagine the plight of the poor mom, with that many sick kids😱😱

    • @babs5573
      @babs5573 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I have a daughter with schizophrenia… it’s a horrible disease… 😢

  • @sherreywurz731
    @sherreywurz731 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Ya I have never heard of this family.....thanks for covering this

  • @NaomiBrady-im4yi
    @NaomiBrady-im4yi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    What a beautiful looking family. Never judge till you take a walk in their shoes.No one knows what goes on behind closed doors.That mother did the very best she could. In the times that were in it. What a cross to bear .God bless them all.

    • @Dawna-gp1zk
      @Dawna-gp1zk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree! Thank you for your comment.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This is a Well Done , Respectful video. Thank You. Devastating for the poor Family.

  • @MadamFizzgig
    @MadamFizzgig 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +363

    To answer the question, no this is not the most disturbed family in the US.

    • @vanessacallahan3515
      @vanessacallahan3515 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Not by a long shot.

    • @reaganpratt9001
      @reaganpratt9001 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right, not even close. With the turpins, Gabriel Fernandez family, Shanda Vander ark & Paul Ferguson, ruby franke, etc etc etc. Those are disturbed families. These are people suffering from (for at least one, treatment resistant) mental illness.

    • @deborahciampa9285
      @deborahciampa9285 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vanessacallahan3515 Just look at the RUMPS

    • @Sasha-71
      @Sasha-71 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      It could possibly be the most disturbed family in the US for having the most people in one family to be disturbed

    • @kayfitzgerald309
      @kayfitzgerald309 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The tr💩mp's are!!!

  • @teresastephenson7203
    @teresastephenson7203 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The book is incredibly well written and indicates how little mental health is cared about in the USA.

  • @shadrach6299
    @shadrach6299 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    The Duggar family shoves the kids off on the older children. The parents don’t raise them.

    • @Miettes-ti2oj
      @Miettes-ti2oj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fortunately, the 'Duggar' family had 4 older girls who were the work mules for the entire family. Can you imagine if their first 5 or 6 children had all been pervert males like their little prince Joshy?

  • @primesspct2
    @primesspct2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    What a terribly sad story, My heart goes out to them all. Schizophrenia is the worst mental illness in my opinion.

  • @hulagirlhere
    @hulagirlhere 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    My dear friends and one time landlords who were two of the kindest, intelligent humans I have ever met had 4 children who were all paranoid schizophrenics. They were all diagnosed at varying ages in their adulthood. The parents bought a multi home property where all their kids (and parents) had their own private homes. I became a tenant when the eldest son got successfully treated and married. I lived there for 15 years and witnessed the horrible toll the illness took on the whole family! I also witnessed the most incredible love these parents had for their kids!
    Parents finally passed in their 70’s, property was sold…. I wonder often where they are and how they’re doing

  • @NancyMoran-r3b
    @NancyMoran-r3b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    It’s seems that these parents were mostly absent for their roles as parents. They were irresponsible to have children that they could not nurture. So sad for the kids.

    • @ndog2005
      @ndog2005 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Thank you, My Exact thought....

    • @louwannaclark3334
      @louwannaclark3334 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NancyMoran-r3b your an idiot

    • @louwannaclark3334
      @louwannaclark3334 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ndog2005 your an idiot to. I’m not sure if either one of you could even be a good dog parent.

    • @robertdozierjr6294
      @robertdozierjr6294 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Any family that has that many children is irresponsible.

    • @GenderLoin
      @GenderLoin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      “These parents”? They’d be deceased if the mother was absent. The father was a horrible non-father and non-husband. Don’t blame the mother who was left alone to deal with deranged grown males.

  • @missmaggie2620
    @missmaggie2620 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I can speak on this, my mother had schizophrenia & it didn't help that she was running from bombs in WWII Germany. There are many levels of schizophrenia & the one that's the toughest is child schizophrenia, genetic, environmental & that's the one we think my mother had. Her head splintered during the horrors of war. It was hard living with someone who was diagnosed with the disease, it is no & I mean no walk in the park. I even begin to imagine what it was like in that household, you never know when the bomb is going to drop & all hell is going to break loose.

  • @sloane5116
    @sloane5116 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Thank you for covering this

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for listening

  • @ingridfong-daley5899
    @ingridfong-daley5899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    My dad called my son "7" because he was the 7th grandchild. My husband was furious, but i was so desensitised to my dad's apathy that i couldn't understand why he was upset. @2:05

    • @Lydweena
      @Lydweena 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      At some point yo saw it for what it was. How did you manage? How is your son?

    • @ingridfong-daley5899
      @ingridfong-daley5899 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lydweena The whole family is fractured honestly. My parents are extreme religious fanatics; I simply dropped contact.
      I feel sorry for my son, who probably feels somewhat "alone in the world" in some ways, but thankfully he doesn't remember my parents.

  • @rochellesweet4775
    @rochellesweet4775 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    You did a great job this is a sad story

    • @JamilaJibril-e8h
      @JamilaJibril-e8h 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Looks like shameless show

  • @OldYellar
    @OldYellar หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this is the best video I have ever seen...thank you I promoted this video on my channel God Bless You, Your Family and your subs

  • @JStrike42
    @JStrike42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That is an excellent video. Original and great research. Thanks.

  • @CatCmdr
    @CatCmdr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    They always blame the mothers. 🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Why not blame the person who sexually abused some of the boys instead then.

    • @maryjohammons8905
      @maryjohammons8905 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😢

    • @knoxbird1
      @knoxbird1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's always the Mothers Fault.☺

    • @PatrickBaptist
      @PatrickBaptist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who was raising them¿? The father was a deadbeat that stayed gone, just because he supported them money wise doesn't mean that much.

    • @mountainman4859
      @mountainman4859 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mothers want to run the show. To control everything. Yet never ever want to take blame. For most of them, it’s always the man’s fault.

  • @kevintroy4329
    @kevintroy4329 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is a really good channel! I’m glad I found it!! 👍

  • @steff9041
    @steff9041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Some of my great aunts had schizophrenia caused by having scarlet fever as children. The very high fever can cause brain damage which may result in mental illness.

  • @collinsfriend1
    @collinsfriend1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Back then, thanks to Freud and his cohorts the parents, especially the mother was blamed for pretty much all the behavior problems. Parents of autistic children also were blamed for their issues. NOW we know it is an organic disease. It is also likely genetic. Genetics aren't always direct and can skip a generation or two.
    I have seen two teens from a neighbors go from being a regular teen and descend into schizophrenia. One was a child raised by his normal grandmother but was the product of 2 schizophrenics in a mental unit who had sex and his mother got pregnant. He was VERY deeply disturbed. we watched him slowly be overcome by his illness, helped him seek counseling and medications because his grandmother died, and his uncle took advantage and ripped off his inheritance, , but he as many do for at least a while kept stopping. He became violent and we had to stop contact with him after he was institutionalized and he told them he lived with us which he did not.. With granddaughter in the house and he having tried to kidnap and molest a child (something he NEVER would have done before) we didn't allow him to contact us- especially after he tried to get discharged here.
    Another was a young woman- she never got violent that we know of, but she hallucinated and to this day refuses to take her medications and refuses to recognize her illness despite numerous long hospitalizations. Her son is not afflicted with this fortunately, is married and doing very well despite CPS intermittently removing him and reuniting them. She lost all custody of her daughter. As a nurse we occasionally get schizophrenic patients with medical problems and the medications they use now are SO MUCH BETTER than the old psychotropics like thorazine and Haldol. Those are used more for violent breaks and rarely for severe cases. Knowing it's organic is helpful too. Vitamins are also helpful to a point if there is a deficit.
    One man diagnosed with dementia really had a B-12 deficiency and cleared up after it was replaced. HOWEVER- his wife of 20+ years turned into a bit of a Black Widow and whom he trusted to manage the medications and VA appointments stopped giving it to him and he ended up incapacitated. I found out about it and called the VA with my concerns and they too had been concerned and they were going to get APS involved and possibly get her out of the picture.
    There's also drug induced psychosis from drugs like meth- and there can be a point of no return.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You Researched thoroughly, and this is Informative.

  • @BeautifulLei-gd4rf
    @BeautifulLei-gd4rf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    absolutely heartbreaking😔😔

  • @NancyMoran-r3b
    @NancyMoran-r3b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Yeah, him having mental challenges was a real indication that this couple should have an incredible amount of children! Not!
    SMH 🤦‍♀️

    • @LeahDyson-kq4bd
      @LeahDyson-kq4bd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That was exactly my first thought it was like instead of just denying his trauma he over compensated by having a dozen kids

  • @brankachristopoulos9609
    @brankachristopoulos9609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is absolutely heartbreaking. I can’t imagine what this family went through.
    I pray that the remaining surviving children are safe and happy.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Schizophrenia, Violence, and Child Abuse. Horrific!

  • @plurpee.
    @plurpee. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Excellent video, can't wait to see what's next!

  • @shivalishankersharma1562
    @shivalishankersharma1562 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I have never heard of this case although I bingewatch crime channels. Thanks for delving into a relatively unknown case.

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Check out the doc on Max. That was my inspiration.

  • @patriciamccormick9321
    @patriciamccormick9321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My friend was one of 10, just the two youngest kids were girls. It was lid rambunctious and the boys fought a lot but her childhood was fun and they all reunite twice a year since their parents passed away. A lot of friends came from similarly large happy families where there was no mental illness. The chaos was solely caused by the disease.

  • @taneshiawalker8453
    @taneshiawalker8453 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Very informative

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. More to come!

  • @ezeesecondhand3877
    @ezeesecondhand3877 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My mother and her siblings had scarily similar instances. A lot of horror occurred and some of us, my cousins, siblings and so on, are still having traumatic issues to this day. I have learnt to exercise patience with my mom when she has her episodes. I try and be understanding and I've learnt not to deny when she believes someone has done her wrong. It is difficult as I am not a professional at all. One of my aunts had committed suicide under a bridge by the river. My brother, who we haven't seen in 8 years, is homeless and selling watches around Durban. I am yet to compile a book on how my mother and her siblings were raised. It is difficult and I needed motivation. Thank you for this video as it further inspires me to continue with my mother's story.

  • @user-je3zc3nj9c
    @user-je3zc3nj9c 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I liked your presentation, but damn the story is so sad. What's sadder is there are families going through this right now.

  • @pooh4025
    @pooh4025 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I can't wait to watch the documentary.

  • @michelleorlando3702
    @michelleorlando3702 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I honestly feel for the whole family, and understand the time period played a huge effect on how everything turned out.

  • @peggyochoa3538
    @peggyochoa3538 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    i worked with the mentally ill from 1978 to 2022 and i can say it is the hardest job you can work, they have the right to attack staff and the staff cannot fight back, you constantly look over your shoulders to protect yourself, i was lucky i knew how to protect myself from harm but i have seen other staff members getting attacked and beat up bad, i was the one that had to teach classes about protecting yourself what to do, these people have more rights then a sane person.

    • @joannewatts9892
      @joannewatts9892 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's ' crazy ' in of itself .

  • @ryanduffy5263
    @ryanduffy5263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've never heard this story. Thank you!

  • @Maariu01
    @Maariu01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    No this is a family who were and are impacted by a serious mental health issue

  • @JudithMcPheron-pb9lv
    @JudithMcPheron-pb9lv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    God bless them all. So devastating. I have known of three who struggled with this disease. Thank God science & medical knowledge has improved greatly. No one understands how lonely and tortured they feel. 😢😢😢

  • @AprilGarcia-sm4bi
    @AprilGarcia-sm4bi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Their mental breakdown began with a father who addressed them as numbers, completely dehumanizing and devaluing them. What kind of people could possibly come out of such coldness from a hateful, sadistic father? Or a perfectiont driven mother?

  • @robertdozierjr6294
    @robertdozierjr6294 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Simply put, that’s too many kids for a modern family. Way too many.

  • @dmr1983
    @dmr1983 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wow, looking closely at the family photos online and I noticed I knew Peter. I had no idea his family all suffered like this, I thought he was the only one in his family with this. But man was he a funny guy! He always had his recorder on hand and would do a performance for you, and the stuff he’d talk about (whether true or not?) was funny as hell 😂 He had some good stories

  • @Tracey-t4n
    @Tracey-t4n 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    To me, so many of the kids to end up with mental problems is down to the up bringing. There father had a lot to play with this. So sad. Poor family 🙏🏻💚🇮🇪

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Schizophrenia is considered so Devastating because it has Positive, and Negative Symptoms, and is very difficult to Diagnose., even now. Back then, I can't imagine.

    • @eileenhetherington3704
      @eileenhetherington3704 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it isn't difficult to diagnose. A simple brain scan shows the disturbing changes to the nerve pathways in the schizophrenic brain. I have 7 siblings. 2 are mentally ill and 3 are schizophrenic. Yes we had an abusive childhood, but schizophrenia is also an inherited disease and is the reason my grown sons will not have children.

    • @CaTsArElIF3
      @CaTsArElIF3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes it can and sometimes it doesn’t even come out. The environment you’re in plays a big factor as does genetics.

    • @CaTsArElIF3
      @CaTsArElIF3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@eileenhetherington3704it’s not currently possible to determine that a person with schizophrenia simply by looking at a brain scan.

  • @annabodhi38
    @annabodhi38 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When I was in grad school I remember doing a paper to determine the link between schizophrenia, and obstetric complications, and there is a link. This is really a crazy story. I am sad for the girls, and all that they suffered.

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting. I didn't see any info about the mom having difficulties in childbirth. Doesn't mean it didn't happen though.

  • @cdubb1683
    @cdubb1683 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This case has several layers, but I’d start with the generational s.abuse, the conflict between the devout religion and the assault/betrayal by a cleric, the emotional distance on the part of the father as he was dealing with his trauma, the mother’s drive for perfection-as she was undoubtedly trying to cope with her own assault back in that day, etc. This combination would be too much for anyone to bear. Especially bc they had to keep everything secret to preserve the reputation of the family. What a psychological pressure cooker! It’s no wonder their mind’s psychological structure collapsed.

  • @blazefairchild465
    @blazefairchild465 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Very interesting and sad story. This is the first time I have heard of 6 brothers with schizophrenia in one family. I have heard of many families with every female and some males who had bipolar. Child SA was rampant in the family as well.

  • @audrey-louise3236
    @audrey-louise3236 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    this is a great video but you definitely need a new mic

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Working on it 💕

    • @kevico2
      @kevico2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Not the mic... it's the monotonous voice

  • @honesttruth8064
    @honesttruth8064 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Guinea pig psych, pharma funnels, barbarian shock therapy and incest???? Dozen kids....
    Missing parent....
    What could possibly go wrong?

  • @micheletvedt3351
    @micheletvedt3351 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Beyond sad! May God give them Grace in Heaven.🙏🙏🙏

  • @TraciEaston-hs5xe
    @TraciEaston-hs5xe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I read this novel, "Hidden Valley Road," intense story, to say the least.😢

    • @larose6551
      @larose6551 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was a lot to unpack.

  • @tracynorris5012
    @tracynorris5012 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    My great grandparents had 14 kids, two sets of twins. This was before birth control was available. They were very poor share Croppers in Hartwell Georgia. Hard times, but they were devout Christians and lived well and long. My grandmother lived til 100, RIP. She was the last of the siblings to pass. ❤

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love it. Having a lot of kids isn’t the problem. Raising them in an abusive, chaotic environment is the problem.

  • @SandiByrd
    @SandiByrd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I actually feel so bad for the Mom. She had zero support and no idea what was happening to her kids 😢 I can't imagine. I know she wasn't perfect but the Mom in me still feels bad for her.

  • @TedCyrier
    @TedCyrier 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really tragic, being a parent in that situation would seriously challenge your sanity and faith as well perhaps, I can't help but feel empathy for this family in spite of anyone's culpability in this horrific story .

  • @lovingmayberry307
    @lovingmayberry307 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don't believe the mother caused the schizophrenia in the boys, but I DO blame her for being blind to the physical and sexual abuse perpetrated by the brothers on their younger siblings!!

    • @KohalaLover
      @KohalaLover 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What about daddy-o? No responsibility? Twelve children!

  • @lynnboyd33
    @lynnboyd33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I read this book, several years back. Fascinating story

  • @MelodyBosh
    @MelodyBosh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Colorado Springs Community" I thought of a wonderful warm charming loving movie called Christmas Card.
    *Alice Evans/Faith and her loving parents are Ed Asner/Luke and Lois Nettleton/Rosie. Family jokester Uncle Peter Jason
    /Richard. Sweetest family ever. John Newton/Cody plays soldier visiting the town of Colorado Springs with no living relatives.

  • @anitakephart3851
    @anitakephart3851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Coming from large family, I can tell you, it stems from a selfish parent or parents.
    In my case it was my mother. It is a very long psychological scenario but I have figured it out. It is a very sad outcome and we, the children pay the price.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello, and Thank You for sharing.

  • @ritamulloy3522
    @ritamulloy3522 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Schizophrenia doesn’t cause violence. These brothers were all about violence.

  • @donnamorgan2522
    @donnamorgan2522 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Has to be one of the saddest family histories there is😢

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very sad. Hopefully there are better treatments today.

  • @AnnacolleenEtters
    @AnnacolleenEtters 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I begged for ECT, after suffering from depression, for over 20 years. There is nothing torturous about it, as a sedative is administered beforehand. It knocked out my memory, in fact, I was surprised to find I was suddenly in the month of August, and the last I remembered, it was May. or June. I believe my oldest brother and sister had schizophrenia. It was common to blame the mother, but I never thought my mother was at fault. Our mother was a hard worker, and a good mother. Our parents were alcoholics, I was convinced, all stemming from the Great Depression, then WWII.

    • @CaTsArElIF3
      @CaTsArElIF3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see a lot of misinformation going on here along with the OP agreeing. Many that don’t suffer from any mental illness don’t get or ever will. I come from a family that schizophrenia on my mom’s side and didn’t skip a generation until the fith generation.

  • @NancyMoran-r3b
    @NancyMoran-r3b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I had six siblings and sometimes my dad called us by our number. It was only joking and only once in a while. I was number three. When I sign a greeting card to one of my siblings, I sign it Nancy Lee number3.

    • @bjwilliams
      @bjwilliams 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So seven children in all. My mother was an only child. My son is an only child- adopted as a baby because my ex husband had low-0 sperm count. Our son was perfect_ now adult; I was somewhat afraid to adopt again because you don't know what that person will be, of course that can be true in any case. Well I know my bloodline- DNA stopped with me. ☮️✌️🧘‍♀️

  • @peggysherman2811
    @peggysherman2811 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    People are saying poor mother. What do you think would happen if you just keep popping out babies? You can't give anyone the attention they need. It's called parenting.

    • @joannewatts9892
      @joannewatts9892 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agreed 💯

    • @Dietconsulting
      @Dietconsulting 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Contraception was not always accessible

    • @joannewatts9892
      @joannewatts9892 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Dietconsulting what⁰ about abstenation, was that available ?

    • @jerushamaxwell281
      @jerushamaxwell281 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If I think 'poor mother' in one sense, it's about the wear and tear to her body. Actual tearing during births.

    • @545Booboo
      @545Booboo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Do you think the mom just kept deciding to have another child? She had absolutely no say in the matter. She couldn’t say “no” to her husband and contraception was prohibited by the church. So yes, poor mom.

  • @fitzml1485
    @fitzml1485 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a strange and sad story, though it's amazing they were able to stay in touch with each other after all that. I've seen families obliterated by much less.

  • @kimberlybalogh4395
    @kimberlybalogh4395 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes, my father in-law kicked my husband out because of mental health issues. Being a Lt. Col.@ USAFA didn't want them to know about mental illness. My husband is oldest of 6 boy,3 in total suffer some form of mental illness. My husband of 45 years now is back in a Nursing Home. My Father in law taught Physics @ the Academy

  • @l.o.v.edrive3466
    @l.o.v.edrive3466 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The mother takes the biggest blame always when the father is absent. I always wandered why fathers dont get hate or blamed? Like sons and daughters seem to dispise their mothers or throw hate towards them in cases of divorces and single motherhood or worst yet domestic abuse. In this case it seemed the mother simply couldnt handle such case and just gave up since she seemed the only one there. I would too, I'm not gonna lie. Especially in that time period. The husband not sharing his responsibility while I carry everything and try to figure things out. The healthcare system and strangers blaming,judging, and outcasting me. My own children blaming me. She wasnt perfect, there was so many things she couldve doen better,but to be honest I really dont think she should deserve all the blame. Especially since she was the only present parent in the household and atleast tried before she completely gave up knowing the era she grew up in where mental health was taboo .

  • @NYC2023-du8mg
    @NYC2023-du8mg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ephesians 6:12
    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
    King James Version (KJV)

  • @TeriLynn923
    @TeriLynn923 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can’t believe Ive never heard about them. That is wild!

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Scary to think that families like the Galvins probably exist all over the world and we never hear about them.

  • @daffke1185
    @daffke1185 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Never saw this case. Thankyou

  • @Songbird97
    @Songbird97 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I really QUESTION if they really had schizophrenia.. the boys did not have their father around disciplining them .. he was working a lot.. and the mom just told them to go outside and beat EACHOTHER up.. I just wonder if they are just UNRULY BOYS LEFT TO THEIR OWN DEVICES and no father around to TEACH THEM how to be like men.

    • @thatssodaisy3276
      @thatssodaisy3276 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Excellent comment. I too wonder that

    • @solaris808
      @solaris808 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Not if they were hearing voices and hallucinating other things. Being rowdy does not cause these disturbances.

    • @rebeccac1642
      @rebeccac1642 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for the theory, Freud. Any other mothers you'd like to blame for their children's mental health crises/illnesses? I challenge you to research mental illness in a variety of forms, from *reputable* sources, and then come back and tell us how the mother is really to blame for this.

    • @solaris808
      @solaris808 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rebeccac1642 excellent response!!

    • @jacquelinemuqui
      @jacquelinemuqui 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't blame the mom. That's lazy.

  • @loghog4392
    @loghog4392 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think all the remaining brothers are wandering aimlessly around my community.

  • @verohamer8245
    @verohamer8245 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you 🤩

  • @flufwix
    @flufwix 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Tragic situation. Sounds like potentially there was a genetic tendency and the overcrowded, chaotic home life and other environmental factors triggered the schizophrenia.
    Blaming the mother is stupid.

  • @bridgetmcclellan512
    @bridgetmcclellan512 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It would be terrible to live in that house hold .

  • @PatriciaTomberlin
    @PatriciaTomberlin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Really! Too many kids too soon I believe was the major cause of this family's misfortune. Children are so vulnerable, and demanding!

  • @chockabout
    @chockabout 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You can always tell a AI-written script when it repeats facts.

  • @Darkstar-j5i
    @Darkstar-j5i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The parents didn't realize, the battle was just beginning, after the war.

  • @Bayeraful
    @Bayeraful 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tragic for the family, but if anything runs in a family then having more and more kids only increases the chances of something manifesting more than once in generation

  • @SaraMKay
    @SaraMKay 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Delusions, hearing voices, constantly being watched- sounds like religion to me