The only downside to using it though, is that you can’t use the acronym in semi auto. And man it’s really good semi auto, like the other battle rifles. It can one tap to the head and two shot to the body at really good ranges.
The actual gun shoots from the open bolt in full auto and closed bolt in semi. I wish this was replicated in MWII and would also remove the 45ms shot delay when in semi auto
The gun model shows it as closed bolt in full auto and all the inspect and reload animations display it as closed bolt so it makes no sense and feels like a last minute decision
@@perfectstranger1152 Wouldn't be any better than the Torrent imo, so why not, lots of broken guns in the game like the Tac 56 with almost zero recoil, really great range, etc. or the SO-14 when built correctly, absolutely fries in semi auto with it's almost no fire rate cap and low recoil, so honestly, how bad would that change make it, I feel it would shake up the meta which needs to happen.
I originally thought iw was trying to mimic the generally bad trigger for bullpups but then start wondering why the AUGs doesn't have the delay considering the fact that AUG has one of the worst triggers among all the mass-produced bullpups due to its two-stage design
This thing is extremely good in my opinion. It has a fast fire rate for it's damage in both fire modes and very high damage and amazing range. Especially if you put the longest barrel on. The recoil control is crazy too, I absolutely love this weapon.
@@WrectumTerrorNo my lobbies are quite the opposite. I’m definitely in there higher end of SBMM. Every player is either drop shotting you around every corner or quickscoping and this gun is still really good. And I don’t notice the open bolt delay. I just treat it like a large Uzi. And that was the best SMG in the game in 2019
What I hate the most is that on PC when keybinding primary/secondary, if you press the primary keybind with the primary weapon out, it changes the fire mode to the default setting. It isn't like you can press the same button you used to equip the gun to change firemode, it only changes to default, doesn't let you swap between them. So in this case it only puts the gun into full auto.
I didn't even notice the gun had a delay until trying it in semi, then it became apparent; I assume the delay is a balance measure, otherwise we'll see the semi mode nerfed in a month. I was having a lot of fun with the underbarrel drill charge last night. Sometimes I need a perfectly cooked grenade, other times I need the drill charge to clear the B flag before turning the corner. It was nice having both options at any given moment.
I feel like you glossed over the fact this might be one of the most consistent full auto weapons in the game. These damage numbers are excellent! I’ve found it to be a brilliant rifle to use in ground war and you can flip it into semi auto and pick people off. I’m loving it!
Drill charge launcher is also available on M4, M16, FTAC Recon and M13B. I want to try in on so called "The Neighbor" build: regular drill charge, drill charge launcher, resupply, ammo box. And drill the shit out of every wall in the game.
It's a good competitor to the tac-v. Just like the tac-v the full auto is amazing. Also it really feels like ads and sprint to fire just feels so much better now.
@@ryanmccluan7467 that is not mainly the issue, it's the fact that they made the current attachments so vast yet so vague in what they do and how they impact every gun. It got a bit better that now you can see the sweetspots when tuning Tldr lack of visibility
@@shampwoo I’ve actually found that the stat bars are more accurate than you’d think. Before ace put out his videos on ads times I was able to determine the faster attatchments from looking at the stats. Sometimes the changes are minor but you can definitely see them. You just need to know which bars to look at for which attachments.
I think I'm going to start running the underbarrel drill charge whenever I can. Getting two with the tube and then picking a different explosive for my lethal slot sounds real fun. Or maybe stack with resupply and carrying around 4 drill charges (I guess up to 5 or 6 if you use overkill?). Edit: Testing in a private match with overkill, resupply, and an ammo box I was able to send out 9 drill charges in about 30 seconds.
Potentially it is but I feel like they chose SIG mainly for the Trigger group package and the Steel Base ammo and that it's not a bullpup, which is what our military hates, idk why, the Aug and a few others are good examples of what can be done with bullpups and it would fit our fighting style more, screw the Timmy's who don't know how to shoot more than an AR-15 platform
@@deterrencedispensed4780 i think that the SiG offer is the more familiar option for soldiers, all the ergonomics of the MCX spear is already pretty damn similar to the older M4 rifles. meanwhile the RM277 is a lot less familiar, plus the bullpup design as well
@@richie_0740 That's why I said they picked Sig for mainly but it makes no sense when our fighting strategies ( Ex 0211 aka Armorer in Marine Corps here ) would benefit from Bullpups over Traditional, fuck all the whiners who can't just pick up a gun and get familiar with it just because it's different, it's not even that difficult to get the hang of a bullpup
@@jordancameron4441 I'm no convinced its all the different. you just train for the new system. Hell all the D.O.D. does is training, training, some more training. For how mush the SPEAR is (minus vortex optic) I would expect more of a leap in small arms technology, and not just, "this is the new M14 basically" and we all know how well that went over. I have no clue why its so American to hate what other counties are doing i.e. bullpups.
That prefire delay explains SO much what my experience has been with this gun. It feels like I have a little bit of lag when I use it that I could not explain. Overall though I do still think it is a pretty decent battle rifle, even in full auto. The full auto recoil is VERY manageable when compared to the other battle rifles which combined with the damage makes it a pretty beastly option if you can deal with that prefire delay.
I think you should be able to pick which fire mode is on the gun if you add an underbarrel launcher, or shotgun. Really they should just make it realistic and have the gun still have select fire, even with an underbarrel.
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Just a quick complement: 1) The underbarrel drill has half the bullet drop of a underbarrel grenade launcher. However, you cannot equip any underbarrel launcher together with the 50 rounds drum mag. This may hurt its effectiveness in WZ. 2) There is a unique stock wrap attachment that improves handling without harming the recoil. I guess Ace missed it.
Hey Ace what about the custom suppressor Cronen SP-DR that's exclusive to this gun you didn't mention anything about it when you talked about the composite ammo and undermounted drill, would have been cool to see the values on that one as well. Or is it just a reskin of a different suppressor and that's why you skipped it ?
People complain about this gun's open bolt delay, but they probably don't remember the MW2019 Uzi prior to the .41 AE rounds. The gun with 9mm rounds was subpar and the open bolt delay made it even worse.
There were other guns with it as well. (Though I didn't find the UZI to be sub par without .41 AE, personally.) but it was mostly in LMGs. Which I feel were still a lot more viable in 2019 than now. Outside of running AUG H-BAR or RPK with lower cap mags they feel playfully slow.
Yeah well at least the Uzi is actually an open bolt gun while this gun is not so it does not really make sense. The model shows a closed bolt and the inspect and reload animations present it as closed bolt.
@@feariex True. But it's one of the only bullpups in the game aside from the AUG variants. BPs have notoriously bad triggers usually due to the linkages required, and the bigger/more powerful the cartridge the heavier they need to be. So, I'm just guessing but it could be an emulation, of a long trigger pull. I dunno! Also could be that with it's damage potential being higher than the Taq-V on average, they found it as the easiest way to balance it for the current way that damages are setup.
No let me correct your comment. I remember from Ace’s gun guide that the Uzi was open bolt but the gun had no delay in game. So that isn’t correct. Also even with the .41 AE rounds, it was good but so were many of the SMGs & imo at least, the Striker-45 wasn’t much different from it & I just preferred using that. .41 AE Uzi was probably a bit overrated.
Now that the suppressor/ghost issue is fixed, can you start mixing in some stealth setups in your gun guides? Or better yet, make a dedicated top 5 stealth guns video?
I've only gotten to pick it up off the ground once so far. It seemed pretty stock with just a thirty round mag so ADS was slow, but I didn't even register the delay in full auto. It's the gun I'm going for first, but taking 20 or 25 tokens to get to it from the start is a painful joke for trying to get it when seeing people with Black Cell running around with both right off the rip. Though I've seen the intervention way more period. Because it makes people go into quick scope mode painfully quick. The annoyance and drop in my KD is real.
Istg this gun definitely needs the 30rnd mags no matter what in full-auto. It just chews up ammo rather quickly and the recoil is rather high which makes it weird to engage long range targets with continuous fire with the normal 20rnd and the 30rnd helps... ALOT.
@@tankiller9638 it just doesn't make sense. On LMG it makes sense because many of those are open bolt. No modern battle rifle would be manufactured to be open bolt, open bolts are a detriment to accuracy due to the reciprocating mass at the moment of firing. I don't dislike open bolt weapons just no battle, assault, marksman, or sniper rifle would be manufactured with an open bolt. Maybe in the past at some point but not in decades and certainly not something modern.
Hopefully if they add the MCX Spear it will be a true competitor to the SCAR-H They should definitely buff the composite 6.8 ammo too, spice things up a bit. If possible, add composite ammo options for 5.56 6.5 creedmoor and 7.62x51 as well just like IRL True Velocity
I haven't unlocked it yet but does the fire delay not totally mess up longish range shots? Those need precise timing to hit headshots and lead targets, 45ms seems like a giant pain in the ass. Looking forward to trying it out myself.
Do you think you could take another look at recoil smoothness? I can't be sure, but I swear that it makes some difference (although possibly negligible) now...
@@gingerwitch64 yeah, it’s odd because when Ace does the testing, there’s no difference in recoil. So, I wonder if it only applies when shooting an actual target? Not sure
It is a shame the composite ammo doesn't replicate the most important aspect of the real life true velocity rounds: they have less recoil than brass ammunition.
With how little recoil the gun has by default, such a benefit would probably be negligible. And I suspect the devs will want to add another 6.8 gun so they might not want to give such an ammo type such a benefit anyway.
Note for people trying to make a build for recoil control, i've found that horizontal recoil control attachments help a lot with both types of recoil whereas vertical ones seem to not help that much with neither, also, dunno if it's just me, but combs and rear grips seem to not help at all(?, like I fell when I put them they don't stack and/or negate the effects of the muzzle and foregrip, so, I recommend longest barrel, frac ripper and the muzzle that helps horizontal and vertical (in that order), then mag of choice and low zoom optic (I also feel long and mid ones buff the recoil somehow). Hope I helped if anyone disagrees or has different ideas/builds I would love to know. Take care y'all, and have fun
Ace, can you mention the damage stats for hardcore in these gun guides? Im not asking for a ton of info, just wondering what the one-shot range is for hardcore and wheather you'd use it in hc or not. Love the content 👍
Polyatomic camo challenge is currently bugged and is not counting headshots in either firemode. The gun also isn't tracking mastery challenge progression.
I run it semi auto and have enjoyed it immensely. I run it for speed, so majority of the attachments are for ADS and Sprint Out improvements. Might run the drill launcher for a bit of fun.
how does semi auto pre fire delay work with this gun? is it delay then fire out to til the end of the magazine or delay per shot? and under what circumstances does the delay reactivate?
Open bolt delay is a bummer, but I’ve been using this a lot since the new season started and while I like it, I don’t think it’s as good or versatile as the FTAC Recon, which is still my favorite primary in the game. It might be replacing the SO-14 and TAQ-V as the other battle rifle I mess around with when I want some variety. I wish I could set it to default to semi-auto in the Gunsmith, though. I also prefer it in semi-auto, but it’s annoying to have to change it every time I load into a match.
I may be dumb for asking this but does that firing delay happen every time you pull the trigger in semi auto? Or does it only apply to the first shot? How would that work?
I can understand having an open bolt delay in full-auto mode, but it should switch to a closed bolt with no delay when in semi-auto. Otherwise, what's the point of using semi-auto and trying to land headshots if people are going to move by the time the gun actually fires?
Semi auto doesn't have the prefire delay, I was interested in testing this when I heard about it, and it actually replicates the real life function of the weapon almost properly. Semi auto fires from closed bolt, full auto fires from open. If you listen closely you can hear the difference between the trigger click noise and gun firing.
As a dmz player, this is my go to gun, simply because it gets a damage boost in semi auto fire. Full auto is a 3 shot down, semi auto is a 2 shot down. At range the semi auto is even more viable. This gun easily puts down any other weapon in the mode as long as you have decent gun skill and land your shots.
This gun is the new Meta for hardcore. 1 shot anywhere on the torso in full auto at any range. Flip to semi for 1 shot anywhere on the body when killing at range. Closest you could get before was the Karov 762 at around 47m range, and the RAAL LMG with a 1 shot anywhere but horrible handling.
@TheXclusiveAce: Can you make a video clip about testing the 4 vests? I'm confused when there were a player who wore a stealth vest got spotted by my uav tower, and about the comms vest, i don't know how does it work. For example: when it plays a 1 ping sound means the enemies is far, 2 ping means enemies getting closer and 3 ping means enemies is really close, and when the UAV tower is turned on, the comms vest didn't show the difference between player and bot, it just showed the same as Advaned UAV.
Im not too sure what you’re referring to. This sounds like something relating to Warzone and I don’t play that game at all so I know next to nothing about it
Idk its just weird me or what. But by hearing my mouse clicking and how gunshot differently sync with it, I’m pretty sure semi auto prefire delay is a bit shorter than full auto.
First impression is pretty good in my eyes. I haven't used any attachments on it so far, because I am playing around with the naked gun, but I really enjoy the feel of the gun.
This thing slaps in search, which I never play I queued quick play for all cause I was bent about getting into 6v6 ground wars repeatedly so I just said I’ll send it and sit out whatever happens and got search. And I got told to “chill” and was apparently exceptionally sweaty dropping an sae on the poor children playing Al bagra fortress, sorry other randoms I didn’t know it was that sweaty when I queued with it
Ill have to try some of these builds out, but I have been seeing better success with irons over a sight. It just has a good ironsight in my opinion. So maybe that opens me up to another attachment on the one shot build.
The drill charge under barrel is actually pretty awesome. For starters it hard counters riot shields
I can have my throwing knife and still counter riot shields with this attachment.
The only downside to using it though, is that you can’t use the acronym in semi auto. And man it’s really good semi auto, like the other battle rifles. It can one tap to the head and two shot to the body at really good ranges.
@Casey Avila I prefer it in full auto so its fine with me.
Hmz totally maxed out, but it's still locked 🔒 how come? Any ideas? (Love the drill in my load out)
Has it been took off ranked?
The actual gun shoots from the open bolt in full auto and closed bolt in semi. I wish this was replicated in MWII and would also remove the 45ms shot delay when in semi auto
A different commentor pointed out that if the semi auto delay wasn't added, it would be too good and need a nerf.
The gun model shows it as closed bolt in full auto and all the inspect and reload animations display it as closed bolt so it makes no sense and feels like a last minute decision
@@perfectstranger1152 Wouldn't be any better than the Torrent imo, so why not, lots of broken guns in the game like the Tac 56 with almost zero recoil, really great range, etc. or the SO-14 when built correctly, absolutely fries in semi auto with it's almost no fire rate cap and low recoil, so honestly, how bad would that change make it, I feel it would shake up the meta which needs to happen.
I originally thought iw was trying to mimic the generally bad trigger for bullpups but then start wondering why the AUGs doesn't have the delay considering the fact that AUG has one of the worst triggers among all the mass-produced bullpups due to its two-stage design
@@deterrencedispensed4780 I don't think it would need a nerf. The Devs would. They only mess with the obscure gems.
This thing is extremely good in my opinion. It has a fast fire rate for it's damage in both fire modes and very high damage and amazing range. Especially if you put the longest barrel on. The recoil control is crazy too, I absolutely love this weapon.
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@@dillonc7955idk how people complain about that lmao. I never even noticed it
@@caseyavila8779 must be nice having those slow reaction lobbies that don’t shoot back.
@@WrectumTerror dude, I have been erasing people since launch with the RM277 and until this day noticed it has bolt delay 💀
@@WrectumTerrorNo my lobbies are quite the opposite. I’m definitely in there higher end of SBMM. Every player is either drop shotting you around every corner or quickscoping and this gun is still really good. And I don’t notice the open bolt delay. I just treat it like a large Uzi. And that was the best SMG in the game in 2019
I'd like it if we could toggle fire mode in the gunsmith, it annoys me having to change at the start of every round in Search & Destroy
I agree, especially since changing fire modes changes the stats, only make sense for it to be integrated with the gun smith imo
Or just simply make it stay on whatever you set it so that way you can still switch back and forth on the spot
What I hate the most is that on PC when keybinding primary/secondary, if you press the primary keybind with the primary weapon out, it changes the fire mode to the default setting.
It isn't like you can press the same button you used to equip the gun to change firemode, it only changes to default, doesn't let you swap between them. So in this case it only puts the gun into full auto.
I didn't even notice the gun had a delay until trying it in semi, then it became apparent; I assume the delay is a balance measure, otherwise we'll see the semi mode nerfed in a month. I was having a lot of fun with the underbarrel drill charge last night. Sometimes I need a perfectly cooked grenade, other times I need the drill charge to clear the B flag before turning the corner. It was nice having both options at any given moment.
Without it it'd lityeraly just be tempus torremt
I feel like you glossed over the fact this might be one of the most consistent full auto weapons in the game. These damage numbers are excellent! I’ve found it to be a brilliant rifle to use in ground war and you can flip it into semi auto and pick people off. I’m loving it!
Drill charge launcher is also available on M4, M16, FTAC Recon and M13B.
I want to try in on so called "The Neighbor" build: regular drill charge, drill charge launcher, resupply, ammo box. And drill the shit out of every wall in the game.
It should be on every gun that has an underbarrel launcher.
I wish it was available for the tempus torrent too :(
“Drill baby drill”
It's a good competitor to the tac-v. Just like the tac-v the full auto is amazing. Also it really feels like ads and sprint to fire just feels so much better now.
Can you please cover the attachment changes? These could massively change how we build guns
Miss the days attachments just made our guns better so we didn’t have to watch TH-cam videos
@@ryanmccluan7467 that is not mainly the issue, it's the fact that they made the current attachments so vast yet so vague in what they do and how they impact every gun. It got a bit better that now you can see the sweetspots when tuning
Tldr lack of visibility
@@marine5323 on top of the hidden stats, the bugged stats, duplicate appearing attachments, bogus stat bars, convoluted weapon tuning
@@ryanmccluan7467 yeah bro 😂🥲
@@shampwoo I’ve actually found that the stat bars are more accurate than you’d think. Before ace put out his videos on ads times I was able to determine the faster attatchments from looking at the stats. Sometimes the changes are minor but you can definitely see them. You just need to know which bars to look at for which attachments.
I think I'm going to start running the underbarrel drill charge whenever I can. Getting two with the tube and then picking a different explosive for my lethal slot sounds real fun.
Or maybe stack with resupply and carrying around 4 drill charges (I guess up to 5 or 6 if you use overkill?).
Edit: Testing in a private match with overkill, resupply, and an ammo box I was able to send out 9 drill charges in about 30 seconds.
What are u gonna do with 4 drill charges??
Redesign the interior of any building I think has enemies in it.
@@Rashed1255 Get the record for most campers killed in a match
@@hobojoe9717 this is what I like to see
@@daniguess Can other guns use this attachment? Im guessing so, as you mentioned overkill
I'm just so happy the general dynamics NGSW contender gets to live on in call of duty. I really feel like it was the superior rifle over the sig.
Potentially it is but I feel like they chose SIG mainly for the Trigger group package and the Steel Base ammo and that it's not a bullpup, which is what our military hates, idk why, the Aug and a few others are good examples of what can be done with bullpups and it would fit our fighting style more, screw the Timmy's who don't know how to shoot more than an AR-15 platform
@@deterrencedispensed4780 i think that the SiG offer is the more familiar option for soldiers, all the ergonomics of the MCX spear is already pretty damn similar to the older M4 rifles. meanwhile the RM277 is a lot less familiar, plus the bullpup design as well
@@richie_0740 That's why I said they picked Sig for mainly but it makes no sense when our fighting strategies ( Ex 0211 aka Armorer in Marine Corps here ) would benefit from Bullpups over Traditional, fuck all the whiners who can't just pick up a gun and get familiar with it just because it's different, it's not even that difficult to get the hang of a bullpup
You have to think about the difficulties of mag changes while prone
@@jordancameron4441 I'm no convinced its all the different. you just train for the new system. Hell all the D.O.D. does is training, training, some more training.
For how mush the SPEAR is (minus vortex optic) I would expect more of a leap in small arms technology, and not just, "this is the new M14 basically" and we all know how well that went over.
I have no clue why its so American to hate what other counties are doing i.e. bullpups.
That prefire delay explains SO much what my experience has been with this gun. It feels like I have a little bit of lag when I use it that I could not explain. Overall though I do still think it is a pretty decent battle rifle, even in full auto. The full auto recoil is VERY manageable when compared to the other battle rifles which combined with the damage makes it a pretty beastly option if you can deal with that prefire delay.
I think you should be able to pick which fire mode is on the gun if you add an underbarrel launcher, or shotgun. Really they should just make it realistic and have the gun still have select fire, even with an underbarrel.
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I have been subbed to you forever. Glad to see you made it.
I been playing cod since the original mw2 and man you and these knives only.. are my top favs
thanks for the mentioning the pre-fire delay. my friends and i just couldn't figure out what felt off about this gun, and that's it, 100%
I seriously love this gun, it’s one of my favorites added into the game
Just a quick complement:
1) The underbarrel drill has half the bullet drop of a underbarrel grenade launcher. However, you cannot equip any underbarrel launcher together with the 50 rounds drum mag. This may hurt its effectiveness in WZ.
2) There is a unique stock wrap attachment that improves handling without harming the recoil. I guess Ace missed it.
that initial kick gets me a headshot like 9 out of 10 times. already raked in 2600 kills with it so far. its op.
Hey Ace what about the custom suppressor Cronen SP-DR that's exclusive to this gun you didn't mention anything about it when you talked about the composite ammo and undermounted drill, would have been cool to see the values on that one as well.
Or is it just a reskin of a different suppressor and that's why you skipped it ?
People complain about this gun's open bolt delay, but they probably don't remember the MW2019 Uzi prior to the .41 AE rounds. The gun with 9mm rounds was subpar and the open bolt delay made it even worse.
There were other guns with it as well. (Though I didn't find the UZI to be sub par without .41 AE, personally.) but it was mostly in LMGs. Which I feel were still a lot more viable in 2019 than now. Outside of running AUG H-BAR or RPK with lower cap mags they feel playfully slow.
Yeah well at least the Uzi is actually an open bolt gun while this gun is not so it does not really make sense. The model shows a closed bolt and the inspect and reload animations present it as closed bolt.
@@feariex True. But it's one of the only bullpups in the game aside from the AUG variants. BPs have notoriously bad triggers usually due to the linkages required, and the bigger/more powerful the cartridge the heavier they need to be. So, I'm just guessing but it could be an emulation, of a long trigger pull. I dunno! Also could be that with it's damage potential being higher than the Taq-V on average, they found it as the easiest way to balance it for the current way that damages are setup.
No let me correct your comment. I remember from Ace’s gun guide that the Uzi was open bolt but the gun had no delay in game. So that isn’t correct. Also even with the .41 AE rounds, it was good but so were many of the SMGs & imo at least, the Striker-45 wasn’t much different from it & I just preferred using that. .41 AE Uzi was probably a bit overrated.
So yeah, people have every right to complain about the open bolt delay
Now that the suppressor/ghost issue is fixed, can you start mixing in some stealth setups in your gun guides? Or better yet, make a dedicated top 5 stealth guns video?
He made a dedicated video going over the stealth changes and the best muzzles, for this one use the FR Titan, no ads penalty
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I've only gotten to pick it up off the ground once so far. It seemed pretty stock with just a thirty round mag so ADS was slow, but I didn't even register the delay in full auto. It's the gun I'm going for first, but taking 20 or 25 tokens to get to it from the start is a painful joke for trying to get it when seeing people with Black Cell running around with both right off the rip. Though I've seen the intervention way more period. Because it makes people go into quick scope mode painfully quick. The annoyance and drop in my KD is real.
Istg this gun definitely needs the 30rnd mags no matter what in full-auto. It just chews up ammo rather quickly and the recoil is rather high which makes it weird to engage long range targets with continuous fire with the normal 20rnd and the 30rnd helps... ALOT.
That pre fire delay kills my interest.
Lol what, you must hate every single open bolt gun to exist since 2019 then
It's almost nothing, I use the sakin and it feels like nothing
ive been using it for 2 days and didnt know it had it till now
It's not even noticeable
@@tankiller9638 it just doesn't make sense. On LMG it makes sense because many of those are open bolt. No modern battle rifle would be manufactured to be open bolt, open bolts are a detriment to accuracy due to the reciprocating mass at the moment of firing. I don't dislike open bolt weapons just no battle, assault, marksman, or sniper rifle would be manufactured with an open bolt. Maybe in the past at some point but not in decades and certainly not something modern.
Hopefully if they add the MCX Spear it will be a true competitor to the SCAR-H
They should definitely buff the composite 6.8 ammo too, spice things up a bit. If possible, add composite ammo options for 5.56 6.5 creedmoor and 7.62x51 as well just like IRL True Velocity
I needed this video! Thank you so much Ace you’re a life saver
New Anti Camp build now has 3 drill charges, oh baby.
Put on restock and you have infinite 😂
Any info on how does it do against kill streaks?
Specially compared to the SO-14.
It’s strong. Takes UAVs out pretty easily without reloading with 30-round mag fitted
I’ve not used it in semi-auto yet 🙈
I haven't unlocked it yet but does the fire delay not totally mess up longish range shots? Those need precise timing to hit headshots and lead targets, 45ms seems like a giant pain in the ass. Looking forward to trying it out myself.
It messes things up for me, especially in HC. Some people use it like an AR.
Do you think you could take another look at recoil smoothness? I can't be sure, but I swear that it makes some difference (although possibly negligible) now...
It definitely does. Just testing with a suppressor and without, the gun feels more accurate with it.
@@Latinblood59 yeah, I was testing it with the M4 and echoline--the recoil seemed to be brought down a just a bit.
@@gingerwitch64 yeah, it’s odd because when Ace does the testing, there’s no difference in recoil. So, I wonder if it only applies when shooting an actual target? Not sure
@@Latinblood59 it may have be a new change added/"patched" this season
The cronen Squall is based on Lonestar RM277
Thank you Ace! Had no idea about the fire delay! I knew this gun felt weird!
I was waiting for this video since I unlocked it today so thank you 🙏❤️
It is a shame the composite ammo doesn't replicate the most important aspect of the real life true velocity rounds: they have less recoil than brass ammunition.
With how little recoil the gun has by default, such a benefit would probably be negligible. And I suspect the devs will want to add another 6.8 gun so they might not want to give such an ammo type such a benefit anyway.
Note for people trying to make a build for recoil control, i've found that horizontal recoil control attachments help a lot with both types of recoil whereas vertical ones seem to not help that much with neither, also, dunno if it's just me, but combs and rear grips seem to not help at all(?, like I fell when I put them they don't stack and/or negate the effects of the muzzle and foregrip, so, I recommend longest barrel, frac ripper and the muzzle that helps horizontal and vertical (in that order), then mag of choice and low zoom optic (I also feel long and mid ones buff the recoil somehow).
Hope I helped if anyone disagrees or has different ideas/builds I would love to know.
Take care y'all, and have fun
Can the drill charge launcher be used on other guns? Or just this one?
Haven't even noticed the pre-fire delay. Loving this in dmz
With the 50 round drum I wonder how this compares to the SO-14 as a streak melter
Ace, can you mention the damage stats for hardcore in these gun guides? Im not asking for a ton of info, just wondering what the one-shot range is for hardcore and wheather you'd use it in hc or not. Love the content 👍
I think IW are just outright giving all bullpups better sprint-out times, or at least it seems to be that way
Hey Ace, could you possibly do a video on the thermal scopes in this game? I think thermals work amazing on the new black gold map
Favstar did a great youtube video on thermals. Just search for it.
Polyatomic camo challenge is currently bugged and is not counting headshots in either firemode. The gun also isn't tracking mastery challenge progression.
this might be my new favourite gun it just feels so rewarding and satisfying
The underbarrel drill charge also goes with the M13 and works in Ranked
That's the gun who lost to SIG Spear as the new standard issued rifle for US army. Good to see it being revived here.
They should’ve modeled it with the weird plastic case ammo it uses
@@bradenmchenry995 What do you think the composite ammo type is?
This gun reminds me of the bal 27 obsidian steed from AW. Very similar iron sights and stats
Just not as fast firing as the Obsidian Steed nor as quick on the mobility overall but I agree, pretty comparable
I run it semi auto and have enjoyed it immensely. I run it for speed, so majority of the attachments are for ADS and Sprint Out improvements. Might run the drill launcher for a bit of fun.
Great content as usual!! Just wondering if you have any updates on in game settings like controller etc
For some reason, even out of the gate without attachments I've really been vibing with the gun!
That drill charge launcher sounds fun
Keep it up Ace! You always do a great job. Hopefully, you'll get to 1M soon
Is agree. The recoil is significant but it’s consistent, so it’s easy to manually control with your left joystick.
I can't wait to pair my drill launcher up with drill charges. Ulitmate hardpoint clearing setup.
how does semi auto pre fire delay work with this gun?
is it delay then fire out to til the end of the magazine or delay per shot?
and under what circumstances does the delay reactivate?
The Squall shreds, every time I use it, I have a positive K/D, this gun is one word: OP
Now all we need is a backpack belt fed LMG with a healthy 400 rounds.
Open bolt delay is a bummer, but I’ve been using this a lot since the new season started and while I like it, I don’t think it’s as good or versatile as the FTAC Recon, which is still my favorite primary in the game. It might be replacing the SO-14 and TAQ-V as the other battle rifle I mess around with when I want some variety. I wish I could set it to default to semi-auto in the Gunsmith, though. I also prefer it in semi-auto, but it’s annoying to have to change it every time I load into a match.
I may be dumb for asking this but does that firing delay happen every time you pull the trigger in semi auto? Or does it only apply to the first shot? How would that work?
It's the first round as long as you don't stop for a long time
not dumb, was about to ask the same thing! If every shot in semi mode has the 45ms delay, I don't see how it could be viable in semiauto...
@@habijjj how long are you able to stop shooting for before it applies again? Feel like that’s a bad grey area
@@johky I think it resets after 1-2 seconds after shooting continuously
It's like the pre patch TAQ-V but bullpup and cooler
I can understand having an open bolt delay in full-auto mode, but it should switch to a closed bolt with no delay when in semi-auto. Otherwise, what's the point of using semi-auto and trying to land headshots if people are going to move by the time the gun actually fires?
For a two shot kill in semi auto shouldn't you add the pre-fire delay twice? That would make a significant difference here.
Semi auto doesn't have the prefire delay, I was interested in testing this when I heard about it, and it actually replicates the real life function of the weapon almost properly. Semi auto fires from closed bolt, full auto fires from open.
If you listen closely you can hear the difference between the trigger click noise and gun firing.
@@johntravoltage959 That's really interesting, thanks.
FYI the real gun is called the NGSW rifle made by General Dynamics and it shoots the same caliber in game (6.8)
As a dmz player, this is my go to gun, simply because it gets a damage boost in semi auto fire. Full auto is a 3 shot down, semi auto is a 2 shot down. At range the semi auto is even more viable. This gun easily puts down any other weapon in the mode as long as you have decent gun skill and land your shots.
In full auto, it's basically a better handling RAAL with less ammo. It's crazy.
The Tempus muzzle attachment is arguably the best muzzle in the game imo. It reduces muzzle climb SUBSTANTIALLY. I use it on most guns
Almost have it maxed. This thing is a beast.
The change in recoil direction in semi v auto mode was seen in guns like an94 in mw19 as well. they seem to like doing these mechanics
This gun was a pain to get longshots with that recoil even with a sakin tread 40 and lockgrip combo is crazy
Wonder when they're gonna fix the bug causing it to show we're always getting 1ms to 2ms ping
This gun is the new Meta for hardcore. 1 shot anywhere on the torso in full auto at any range. Flip to semi for 1 shot anywhere on the body when killing at range. Closest you could get before was the Karov 762 at around 47m range, and the RAAL LMG with a 1 shot anywhere but horrible handling.
What's the point of pre fire delay?
Are you going to make a video talking about the nerf to lasers?
You got any ranked play gun updates after the new season reveal?
underbarrel drillcharge goes hard
@TheXclusiveAce: Can you make a video clip about testing the 4 vests? I'm confused when there were a player who wore a stealth vest got spotted by my uav tower, and about the comms vest, i don't know how does it work. For example: when it plays a 1 ping sound means the enemies is far, 2 ping means enemies getting closer and 3 ping means enemies is really close, and when the UAV tower is turned on, the comms vest didn't show the difference between player and bot, it just showed the same as Advaned UAV.
Im not too sure what you’re referring to. This sounds like something relating to Warzone and I don’t play that game at all so I know next to nothing about it
It's annoying the underbarrel drill isn't available on all assault rifles which can take the regular undebarrel fumpf
That blueprint is the camo we should have got for gold camo in this game
This seems to be CODs version of my KelTec RFB
Idk its just weird me or what. But by hearing my mouse clicking and how gunshot differently sync with it, I’m pretty sure semi auto prefire delay is a bit shorter than full auto.
First impression is pretty good in my eyes. I haven't used any attachments on it so far, because I am playing around with the naked gun, but I really enjoy the feel of the gun.
It really does fee like an LMG with the handling of an AR. It’s super satisfying.
This thing slaps in search, which I never play I queued quick play for all cause I was bent about getting into 6v6 ground wars repeatedly so I just said I’ll send it and sit out whatever happens and got search. And I got told to “chill” and was apparently exceptionally sweaty dropping an sae on the poor children playing Al bagra fortress, sorry other randoms I didn’t know it was that sweaty when I queued with it
I just realized that rounds are spelled as rdunds on the full-auto build graphic.
I truly didn’t even realize it had a fire delay till this video.
Ill have to try some of these builds out, but I have been seeing better success with irons over a sight. It just has a good ironsight in my opinion. So maybe that opens me up to another attachment on the one shot build.
Leveled this gun up in like an hour, it fucking rips.
Was waiting for this vid O.o
This gun does slap, I just wish my polyatomic challenge would track so I can put on that Orion camo
unrelated but are you planning on doing any Xdefiant content soon?
I love the drill charge thing. Riot shielders beware
Are you going to check if it is better at anti-air than so-14?
Where the hell do all the stats come from?! That’s awesome
I think it'd be interesting to have a meta where battle rifles or marksman rifles are the best, instead of ar's and smg's
A underbarrel doesnt hurt any of your weapon's handling,but a small muzzle compensater will increase 40ms ads time lmao
I do like this gun but as with a lot of the LMG's the open bolt delay can mess with you a bit.
Honestly I didn't notice the delay because the servers have been struggling and thought it was just broken netcode lmao
You missed a unique muzzle attachment, which is a suppressor.
Huh, I thought this gun wouldn't have a prefire delay in semi since its a closed bolt hybrid
It’s definitely good at disabling the tact sprint that’s for sure.
Can't wait to get this gun !