Ok, i'll add it to the list. I have it already included in my new course Pro Sound Secrets as there is a lot to know, but i might be able to share a bit of that on TH-cam too.
Yeah that would be great to see, and if I could also add that I struggle a bit with my high end with hats and ride so I would enjoy that as well.... Thanks
I LOVE THIS TRICK! I figured out this pitch trick while back on my own, its fantastic with loads of samples so you could just flip thru them super easy, it's a britaint way to work! Great for snare/claps and hats too!
Glad you like! It's great huh. But... i recommend to set limitations on the amount of samples in each rack. Try to only keep a max of 16 fave samples in your kick rack. No one needs more than that. Explained in the video. Same goes for other main sounds like Snare, Clap, Hats etc. 16 is plenty. The exception is probably percussion as that changes a lot more from song to song
Thank you very much for answering me. That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. The energy generated must remain constant. At least between the transient and the first part of the "body" of the kick - which some call the punch or where its "character" usually lies. Ok! Very cool! I hope to find more of your videos with this didactic depth.
Superb tips, loved that pitch trick. will make things a lot easier. volume match also is super helpful. the whole vid was fantastic. The way you explain things is top notch. thank you
@@KlassOneMusic yeah Im gonna take a look. I feel like it would be best to find someone who makes the style of music I want to make but thats seemingly rare to find in quality
I work in all styles. So no problem there. Also, if we are talking about sonics and mixdowns, then the core principles are the same for any genre. There are some subtle differences but they are minor and easy to explain
Thank you for this longer-style in-depth deep dive on what is essentially probably one of the most important topics holding most people back. (And "YES please" to the video about how to choose good reference Tracks)! TH-cam needs more quality in-depth content (vs click-bait tik tok crap for people who will probably simply end up giving up on learning anything and resorting to AI for 5 mins, before getting distracted by the next shiny thing...).
BROOOO thank you for this, Ive spent so much time and money on a million sounds. You just confirmed in a clear and detailed concise way what I already knew. 16 kicks, thats it! whats your top 2 kicks by PML?
Hello, great insight.Recently found out your channel and subscribed it.Also bought a second hand Subpac recently.Would you consider doing a video how you setup and use your Subpac? Thanks.
Thanks! Glad you liked! Excellent, the Subpac is great! sure, i'll ad that to the list. but it's pretty straight forward. Just run your audio through it. Either in series or parallel with your speakers. Just make sure that when you adjust your listening volume up and down on your speakers, your subpac should match with that too. It should not need a separate adjustment each time
Really cool! But I've misses a tio on how to "read" that analyzer. I'm not sure if I can see that a k8ck has phase issues using that. And I would like to understand that... Thank you very much for the vídeo!!!
Cheers! All good, that analyzer is not essential, but i find it helpful. Remember that the colors are like a thermal temperature scale. Hotter = louder. Look for the places where the color goes from red to yellow/orange within the usual shape of the kick. It will look like it has stripes/cuts through it, or sort of wobbly shapes. These less hot colors are quieter and places where the kick is losing volume and power
@@basskleph Cool! It's way better to watch on computer screen. Now I could actually see those holes between the frequencies... Thank you for anwering me! Oh, just one more question... ...I've been looking for a good VST sampler that don't change the kick and snare structure from the start. I've been trying to find a VST sampler that doesn't change the structure of the kicks I put in them. I put the kick directly on a track. A simple 4 on the floor... I take the same kick and drop it into a VST sampler. Insert a MIDI item 4 on the floor... My goal is to cause 100% silence (NULL TEST). I mean, I use an oscilloscope and some other tools to pair the two perfectly. On the oscilloscope I can easily see that the VST samplers change the design of the kick, even with all their functions turned off. The volume changes in almost all of them, the waveform and even the tuning is (it seems to me) randomly changed throughout the "body" of the kick. I'm not advertising or working with or for this company, but the ones that best maintained the integrity of the kicks were ReaSampler5000 and Waves CR8 - but in the case of the CR8, I had to fight against all the automatic changes it caused right away. Having said all this, do you happen to have any suggestions for a VST sampler that doesn't mess up the kicks and keeps them 100% intact? So we can use MIDI...
you're a handsome man Kleph. Do you moisturize? On a more serious note, I just discovered a better way than using the ADSR. Instead of using those controls, set simpler to one shot then use LFO tool (or equivalent) to shape the kick. Your method of choosing a kick (and only 16 samples) is awesome. Though I feel LFO tool to shape those kicks is much more precise and powerful to get it dialled in.
Good question. The ADSR is essential the same as LFO tool, but with some benefits. It will fire off every time a MIDI note is played, and it will also be aware of the length of each MIDI note. This can be very useful at times. It will also most likely be tighter in timing as it is directly integrated into the simpler. No plugin delay, or compensation needed. If you use LFO tool, you might need to trigger it via MIDI to make it fire on each note. It's extra work, and possibly not as tight in timing. The only benefit of LFO tool would be that you can draw in more specific curves, but 99% of the time you won't need that. If you can't adjust/fix it enough with the ADSR, then you should probably just change the kick.
He's saying you should open one of your already finished projects and see if you can find kick drums that fit even better than the one you used to make the song. In his example though he is just using a 8 bar demo loop to illustrate the thought behind it.
💯 you got it. Yeah, this helps make sure you find the right kind of kicks for your unique type of music. Normally i would use one of my released songs, but as they are signed to different labels, sometimes youtube flags them with copyright claims etc. It was just easier for me to make a demo loop to demonstrate this.
😅 it is indeed long. But it's packed with valuable info. I think if i didn't exaplain all of these things then i would leave everyone short changed. To truly know how to pick the perfect kick, you need to know all the things i explain in this video.
😅 it can indeed take a long time, sometimes. At least when learning at the start. But once you have these tips down it will be super fast. All my lessons are designed that way. They are an investment in your time 💪
First lesson in music production.... Don't be dick! What made electronic music so appealing was the attitude of the people who would come and listen. Having a 'safe' attitude was what it has always been about. ✌️❤️😊
Yes, please do a video of adding reference tracks and how to use them as well! Not only on loudness, but arrangement.
Ok, i'll add it to the list. I have it already included in my new course Pro Sound Secrets as there is a lot to know, but i might be able to share a bit of that on TH-cam too.
Yeah that would be great to see, and if I could also add that I struggle a bit with my high end with hats and ride so I would enjoy that as well.... Thanks
I LOVE THIS TRICK! I figured out this pitch trick while back on my own, its fantastic with loads of samples so you could just flip thru them super easy, it's a britaint way to work! Great for snare/claps and hats too!
Glad you like! It's great huh. But... i recommend to set limitations on the amount of samples in each rack. Try to only keep a max of 16 fave samples in your kick rack. No one needs more than that. Explained in the video. Same goes for other main sounds like Snare, Clap, Hats etc. 16 is plenty. The exception is probably percussion as that changes a lot more from song to song
Thank you very much for answering me.
That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure.
The energy generated must remain constant. At least between the transient and the first part of the "body" of the kick - which some call the punch or where its "character" usually lies.
Ok! Very cool!
I hope to find more of your videos with this didactic depth.
Awesome video especially with the in depth detail just on a kick, made it clear to me how important it really is.
Superb tips, loved that pitch trick. will make things a lot easier. volume match also is super helpful. the whole vid was fantastic. The way you explain things is top notch. thank you
Welcome! Glad you liked
This is awesome, never thought of using the energy analyser to measure references tracks. Genius thank you for this🔥
Welcome! Glad you like it
Can't wait for Pro Sounds Secrets. 👏🏼
Top banana this video 🎉.
This man knows his business.
Thank you so much for sharing so music knowledge.
Welcome! Glad you liked it
Mans gonna take over my tuts. Detailed af brother 🫡
If you think this is useful, check his website for his courses. The Inner Circle community is great too!
@@KlassOneMusic yeah Im gonna take a look. I feel like it would be best to find someone who makes the style of music I want to make but thats seemingly rare to find in quality
😅 Cheers! Glad you liked the tutorial
I work in all styles. So no problem there. Also, if we are talking about sonics and mixdowns, then the core principles are the same for any genre. There are some subtle differences but they are minor and easy to explain
This was super helpful! Thank you so much!!
Welcome! Glad I could help
Excellent video. The best video I have seen on this matter.
Great video. Super helpful. Many thanks
Thanks! Glad I could help
Amazing stuff💙
I love this man 🔥
Thank u very helpful im happy with big kick does the job
Welcome! Glad you liked! Ok cool. Try out the comparison method in the drum rack with Big Kick. And see if you can beat it with single samples.
Thank you for this longer-style in-depth deep dive on what is essentially probably one of the most important topics holding most people back. (And "YES please" to the video about how to choose good reference Tracks)! TH-cam needs more quality in-depth content (vs click-bait tik tok crap for people who will probably simply end up giving up on learning anything and resorting to AI for 5 mins, before getting distracted by the next shiny thing...).
You are an excellent tutor 👍🏼
Cheers! you can find more on www.basskleph.com
Thank you :)
BROOOO thank you for this, Ive spent so much time and money on a million sounds. You just confirmed in a clear and detailed concise way what I already knew. 16 kicks, thats it! whats your top 2 kicks by PML?
Amazing! thank you very much
Cheers! Welcome!
Hello, great insight.Recently found out your channel and subscribed it.Also bought a second hand Subpac recently.Would you consider doing a video how you setup and use your Subpac? Thanks.
Thanks! Glad you liked! Excellent, the Subpac is great! sure, i'll ad that to the list. but it's pretty straight forward. Just run your audio through it. Either in series or parallel with your speakers. Just make sure that when you adjust your listening volume up and down on your speakers, your subpac should match with that too. It should not need a separate adjustment each time
@@basskleph Thanks! Will try and see how it goes.
Really cool!
But I've misses a tio on how to "read" that analyzer.
I'm not sure if I can see that a k8ck has phase issues using that. And I would like to understand that...
Thank you very much for the vídeo!!!
Cheers! All good, that analyzer is not essential, but i find it helpful. Remember that the colors are like a thermal temperature scale. Hotter = louder. Look for the places where the color goes from red to yellow/orange within the usual shape of the kick. It will look like it has stripes/cuts through it, or sort of wobbly shapes. These less hot colors are quieter and places where the kick is losing volume and power
@@basskleph Cool! It's way better to watch on computer screen.
Now I could actually see those holes between the frequencies...
Thank you for anwering me!
Oh, just one more question...
...I've been looking for a good VST sampler that don't change the kick and snare structure from the start.
I've been trying to find a VST sampler that doesn't change the structure of the kicks I put in them.
I put the kick directly on a track. A simple 4 on the floor...
I take the same kick and drop it into a VST sampler. Insert a MIDI item 4 on the floor...
My goal is to cause 100% silence (NULL TEST).
I mean, I use an oscilloscope and some other tools to pair the two perfectly.
On the oscilloscope I can easily see that the VST samplers change the design of the kick, even with all their functions turned off. The volume changes in almost all of them, the waveform and even the tuning is (it seems to me) randomly changed throughout the "body" of the kick.
I'm not advertising or working with or for this company, but the ones that best maintained the integrity of the kicks were ReaSampler5000 and Waves CR8 - but in the case of the CR8, I had to fight against all the automatic changes it caused right away.
Having said all this, do you happen to have any suggestions for a VST sampler that doesn't mess up the kicks and keeps them 100% intact? So we can use MIDI...
Where put 16 kicks how? Drum rack is where on ableton? How to ad?
"Drum Rack" is under "Instruments" in the browser on the left. Simply drag and drop a sample onto a pad.
you're a handsome man Kleph. Do you moisturize?
On a more serious note, I just discovered a better way than using the ADSR. Instead of using those controls, set simpler to one shot then use LFO tool (or equivalent) to shape the kick. Your method of choosing a kick (and only 16 samples) is awesome. Though I feel LFO tool to shape those kicks is much more precise and powerful to get it dialled in.
Good question. The ADSR is essential the same as LFO tool, but with some benefits. It will fire off every time a MIDI note is played, and it will also be aware of the length of each MIDI note. This can be very useful at times. It will also most likely be tighter in timing as it is directly integrated into the simpler. No plugin delay, or compensation needed. If you use LFO tool, you might need to trigger it via MIDI to make it fire on each note. It's extra work, and possibly not as tight in timing. The only benefit of LFO tool would be that you can draw in more specific curves, but 99% of the time you won't need that. If you can't adjust/fix it enough with the ADSR, then you should probably just change the kick.
@@basskleph 100%
At 6 min, can you clarify what is happening. You imported one of your previous tracks minus the kick, then trying out new kicks?
He's saying you should open one of your already finished projects and see if you can find kick drums that fit even better than the one you used to make the song. In his example though he is just using a 8 bar demo loop to illustrate the thought behind it.
💯 you got it. Yeah, this helps make sure you find the right kind of kicks for your unique type of music. Normally i would use one of my released songs, but as they are signed to different labels, sometimes youtube flags them with copyright claims etc. It was just easier for me to make a demo loop to demonstrate this.
This video is over ten times as long as I thought it would be (based on its title). Hopefully it's worth the longwinded rambling.
@@wrigna1 good luck with music production with that mindset haha 😅 its quite a process to make something pro
😅 it is indeed long. But it's packed with valuable info. I think if i didn't exaplain all of these things then i would leave everyone short changed. To truly know how to pick the perfect kick, you need to know all the things i explain in this video.
😅 it can indeed take a long time, sometimes. At least when learning at the start. But once you have these tips down it will be super fast. All my lessons are designed that way. They are an investment in your time 💪
First lesson in music production....
Don't be dick! What made electronic music so appealing was the attitude of the people who would come and listen.
Having a 'safe' attitude was what it has always been about. ✌️❤️😊
What a mindset 😂
I really enjoyed the video! Thank you for sharing this. I'd love to see a video on how to reference tracks properly. 🫶🏼🌟💭