Toro 60v Recycler vs Ego Select cut featuring John Perry // The best battery lawn mower Toro or Ego?
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- In this video I test and review all the features of these 2020 self propelled battery lawn mowers and crown one the King - watch the video to find out who earns that honor of best cordless mower for 2020!
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I love when your daughter drops the doll stroller. That was awesome. Great review. Love living in Utah.
Brett, both are great machines. I have a Toro 22" gas mower and I love it. The battery seems to be equal to my gas mower. Excellent review. Everything was well done! Keep it up!
Thanks buddy!
The all plastic Ego deck lead to a Toro 60V sitting in my garage now. Love that 22” metal deck !!
I just got the ego select cut a month ago. Love it. Butttttt I wish the controls for self propelled was in a different position, my thumbs hurt when I use it. Other than that it gets a 9 out of 10 ! It’s a big step up coming from a fiskars reel mower.
Another outstanding equipment review 🌱👍. Great to see the collaboration with Lawncology!
Thank you sir!
There’s a side discharge chute available for the Toro which would enable it to complete most of the tallest grass without stalling.
I'm eventually buying the EGO Zero Turn but either used or after it's under 4k. Their edger success tonight. Eventually, I'll have their entire multi head system. They're great!
Great review guys👍🏻
i own a Worx battery mower for my smallish lawn in the UK - i love the cut quality and also the noise level is very very low - like the EGO is has the one lever height adjustment.
Very cool 👍🏼 wasn’t sure if the toro was faster or if it was just JP’s leg length 😁
Hmmmm..... now we have to do another test.
Just bought a display toro from Home Depot for $241 with tax. Only thing missing was the key. They wanted $30 online for the key . I
I just cut a 3/4”wood dowel as the key, I figured if I can use it for a few years it’ll be worth it. Maybe by then they’ll come out with a battery powered timemaster
I think you guys did a very fair review of both mowers. I have a toro gas personal pace, and I just bought a greenworks pro 25in duel blade. Love the Toro personal pace and the heavy build quality of it. The Greenworks is lighter and easier to maneuver in small yards especially if you have pull it backwards a lot. The Toro is a little bit better in quality of cut but not by much.
I really want to try the Greenworks line out, the garage can't handle too many more toys in it though!
My son bought Ego, I mowed my flat .45 of an acre with 7.5 batt. & still had 25% of battery left when done. Cut great
I wanted a change so i bought the toro. It's very nice and this is my first self propelled and in AZ, no idea why I waited so long. I don't feel as tired in the lovely summers of AZ, as I did. The pace self prop. control works amazing. The only thing I miss about the ego is the weight. This toro is heavy, unlike the ego it only noticeable when you have to push it when it's off or store it. Battery life is good, my yard is about 1/3 of an acre and the battery easily finishes it. I'll probably keep the toro until it dies or if they make a plastic body.
The Toro uses a conventional thick mower blade, the Ego uses a razor thin blade. I purchased the Toro and so far, it's been epic!! And, yes you can go slow with the Toro, and it will mow any length tough Florida grass.
Love hearing this!
Good answer bro. My wife woulda killed me if I had to buy another mower because of you. I went with the Ego for the same reason as you. I've got all the tools they make and now I have the big battery. Both looked like great mowers, fortunately for me ill never no. Cheers dude sorry I was late to the party.
Come on up to Utah and you can play with all the toys!
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower th-cam.com/users/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
I have the ego dual blade mower, rapid charger, blower and trimmer
Hands down ego Is king of the market.
Nobody has grass that high, that would choke a gas mower and possibly a rider.
So if you don't like ego, buy what you like and that's America. Gentlemen this was a fun video
This was like an episode of tool time
I love the ego and think it's a great mower! I like the Toro just a tiny bit more I think. Thanks for watching and for the great comment!
Looks like Utah.
Great video BTW, and that lawn holy cow!
You are correct! Northern Utah is where I lived when we made this video.
Excellent review. Well done. Very informative. 👍
It seems like the bar across the handle arms would get in the way lifting the bag off the EGO. On my gas mower, the bag comes straight up between the arms - super easy. Is there a different method for lifting the bag out of the EGO, or do you essentially have to get down to the ground to pull it out?
Great video you beautiful people. 👍👍. Which one bags grass better??? Or has better vacuum ability?
Toro has better suction. Neither really shine if the grass is overgrown and you try to bag.
Planning to buy a toro in a few minutes.. what is the ideal height for the mower to set up for the new grass and the very first time to cut off? Thanks.. and by the way that is an awesome front yard!
One feature I think that you might have overlooked in favor of the ego is the one lever height adjustment. I believe the Toro has the adjustment at each individual wheel. The mulch plug is not an issue to me since I will also always keep in. Thanks.
Nope we definitely talked about that feature! I agree single hand height adjustment is so nice on the ego!
I did a lot of research on the battery powered mowers and I don't believe one can't go wrong with either mower so my advice is buy the one you like based on features, looks and comfort. Forget everything else like run time, power, cut quality because the two mowers are just to closely matched and you aren't going to notice a difference. I stuck with a gas mower for the simple reason that I wasn't willing to spend the money on a expensive battery somewhere down the road 5 - 6 years from now.
But when I was looking it came down to the mower I bought and The Ego.
I think this is a very fair assessment. Both the toro and ego are very similar and will yield similar results. I personally prefer the feel of the toro over the ego but would be happy with either one!
I'm loving to play w my EGO select cut before I get to use it and give a real life take on it lol
ego also charges faster
What’s the cut height on both of those ? Do they have scalp wheels ?
Solid video! 💯 great job Brett and John!
Missed having you here for it my friend!
Brett's Grasscapades it would of been a blast.... Sickness fail.
I have the toro 60v single stage Snow blower and this video has helped me be willing to also get the 60v recycler thanks Guys
Out of all the lawnmower reviews I've seen, this one has BY FAR the best looking lawn!
Thank you sir! I've put a ton of work into this lawn.
@@Brettsgrasscapades I can tell - it's PERFECT.
Thank you!
I totally agree! Besides Doc’s yard, this by far the best yard! Good job!
Totally agree. Do you trust a guys opinion on cut quality who has a patchy bumpy lawn?
Glad I stumbled onto your review! Subbed and thumbed! Toro for me.
Great video nice collaboration
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Which one of these mowers have the better suction power for bagging?
Great comparison review!
Thank you!
Thank you for your demo I own the Toro 60 Colt and bought it with a 7.5 amp battery. It's Great!
Great to hear! I've got a 7.5 ah on the way!
Can you purchase the mower with the 7.5amp battery?
I had the older Ego lawnmower, before SelectCut, and wasn’t a fan. I really want to get try the Toro but can’t pull the trigger as I already have other Ego tools and batteries. I guess I’ll have to stick to the gas mower that I know will give me a great cut quality, but everything else electric for my outdoor power needs. Great review!
I have a gas mower and inexpensive Kobolt 24 volt trimmer and blower that I only paid $138.00 for out the door. I'm happy with all my equipment. But I was like you and was going to get the mower plus a Ego trimmer and edger. I'm glad I didn't do it that way. One advantage to having The Kobolt stuff is I can also use the batteries for their powered hand tools. You can't do that with Ego.
One thing that i ridiculous about EGO is you have to pay $150 more jut to be able to have the select cut, 2 blade sytem. They should offer that on all of their mowers since the single blade more cuts so poorly.
That EGO select cut is an absolute beast! I'm using it for my lawn biz...
I had a Toro snowblower, corded electric. Didn’t even last two winters. When I called them I got zero satisfaction. Now on my seventh year with an Ego snowblower. Also own an Ego leaf blower and on my second Ego lawnmower. Gave the first to a friend as I wanted the new self propelled model.
Had one issue with the first Ego lawnmower and called Ego. Great service and within a week a replacement part was in my mailbox.
Ego all the way.
Very good video guys. Keep it up .
Thanks wayne!
There's a 21.5" cutting blade for the Toro 22" Recycler 60V and 20.5" dual cutting blade for the Ego Select 56V which is a 4.9% difference in area for each pass between the two mowers.
Hi , great blogs! Would EGO do well with Hybrid Bermuda?
I think so! Thanks for watching.
Earlier this year I returned a reconditioned Ego because it didn't cut well, the drive system was clunky and noisy, more difficult to attach the bagger and only even inch cutting heights; no 1/2 inch. I got a Toro that has been a virtually seamless transition from my old Honda gas mower and it cuts essentially as well, and corrects the deficiencies I had with the Ego. Occasionally I will get a missed blade of grass but only occasionally. It packs more into the bagger than my Honda could. On my 1/4 acre lot's net lawn, I get a full mow with charge left to spare.
Its perfect for you and that size lawn!
I started with this Toro but had to send it back. Just couldn't handle my thick and undulating lawn. The Ego worked much better and seemed to have way more power to plow through the thicker grass. I went with the 10aH model.
Didn’t even know of Toro before this. I’m sold
Lets go Jessica, don’t mind the baby in the crashed stroller. BIYEEE !!!
Outstanding vid !!!
Thank you for sharing 🤣🙃👍🍕
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I bought the Ego 3rd gen 2 days ago. If I knew about this Toro E-mower I probably would've went with that one just for the cut quality. I think for my lawn the ego will get the job done, but I would recommend the Toro over the Ego to anyone else(I may attempt to return the Ego and go with the the Toro if I can).
a few remarks:
I'm not too concerned about top speed as my lawn isn't big enough to warrant fast paced mowing anyway. Would only be a factor if I had a huge acre and a half lawn to mow.
The bag/mulch switch on the Toro, while it's a nifty and useful feature, won't mean much as you have to take the bag off anyway in order to store it. the only benefit I see of this feature is not having to remove the bag for mulching. some may say that not having a plug is one less part to lose but most people are gonna bag once for the season and then go back to mulching. Some states don't allow you to bag grass so the plug thing isn't going to be as big of a factor as some may believe as you're hardly ever going to remove it.
Nevertheless, you buy a lawnmower to cut the grass and while the Ego has a lot of nice creature comfort features, The Toro excels in the sole reason you buy a lawnmower...Cutting the grass.
dewalt mowers good?
Thanks for the review guys! You guys totally convinced me to buy the EGO hands down. I don’t care about traditional mowing experience. I’ve had that experience already with my old Briggs and Stratton and hated it for 25 years of mowing. The Ego has a way better battery and mulches super good. Manoeuvrability and the light weight along with far more versatile self propelled system gets my job done faster with a superior cut. That personal pace on the Toro is clunky and you can’t be as precise as the hands off/on as the EGO. The demo is unrealistic mowing a tall pasture with a battery mower. For personal home use and the ease of use and the awesome fold and storage of the EGO is way more convenient. You could store it on a shelf in your garage or shed if you want. Toro is nice, but offers nothing new in terms of technology or design other than the battery power.
The ego is a fantastic unit! I really like mine and I'm not unsatisfied with it for sure! You definitely make some great points !
joseph fusca and the recycler feature is neat on the toro but for me the plug is in the ego and it won’t come out. It’s a set and forget feature. Maybe bag some leaf pickup in the fall.
I'm with you. See my comment above: the test was using the standard mulching blade that comes with the Select Cut. Using the high-lift blade (or, even better, combining the standard and high-lift blade in an X configuration as Electric Lawn Services/Electric Cuts have demonstrated) will likely have leveled the playing field in terms of cutting through the gnarly stuff. It may have even exceeded the Toro's performance, given the dual-blade configuration normally "clears" debris better by chopping it up more finely.
the ego select cut is a great mower I run them commercially only isue is lift and suction and it can be mostly fixed with some blade modifications, I hope EGO makes a more professional unit in the future as the lift could be increased which would make this mower more or less untouchable. The toro seems interesting in the suction or lift but I know you wont get as good mulching with a single heavier blade. Ego makes the best batteries which was very impoartant when making a decision which electric tools to use commercially.
Nice review on these mowers, fellas. I'll probably go with the Toro.
The current recommendation by the turf researchers is to mow cool season grasses (bluegrass, fescue) at 3 or 3-1/2 inches all year. Don't change cutting height at all. It encourages greater root growth which means greater ability to withstand drought with less watering. And mulch, never bag. So blade height adjustments and ease of bag removal are irrelevant. I have an older battery mower and a 20-year-old gas mower, neither with power drive. The battery mower is much lighter and I love it but have to charge the battery after mowing the front or back.
With battery powered tools, multiple batteries are a must...
Hey Brett, love your channel. I have followed you for along time.
I hate to be negative but I do feel the cards were stacked against the EGO.
1. In the test in the field it beat the Toro by a whole lap and instead of giving it the win it was chalked up to the speed John was walking. And that may have been but in that case would have loved to seen a side by side test to have a true winner with no excuses.
I think the ego would have won personal.
2. In the deep grass test #1
The ego started at 7:47 and Stopped at 7:51. 4 second run.
The Toro started at 8:11 and stopped at 8:15. 4 second run while stopping a mowers length short
Not a huge difference but still went a little easier on Toro maybe.
3. Deep Grass #2 (this test was the real issue)
The ego started at 8:41 and Stopped at 8:48. 7 second run.
The Toro started at 8:53 and reached the geo approx at 9:06. 13 second run.
To me it look like you went half the speed on that pass with the toro as the ego and of course the cut will be cleaner if your going half the speed..
And I think you missed one to the things I personally love about the ego, The mower height adjustment system. The toros system is old old school.
Would love a response if you have a minute. The ego won 2 it of 3 test and was cheated on the third test in my opinion yet you and Jon gave the win to the toro. Was this because Toro gave you a mower?
I want redo of the tall grass bit with both mowers going in at the same time and same speed.
@@benpinet8488 Me too!!! And how about a new bald on the ego to match the Toro!
The one lever adjustment has it's disadvantages too. For example, sometimes when mulching lush spring grass, a mower can start to leave clumps. A lawn care pro trick is to raise the rear wheels one notch above the front wheels which will often help with this. Also in the fall it is advantageous to be able to raise the front end of the mower higher than the rear to allow the mower to mulch leaves better without just plowing them out of the way.
Did anybody notice he was running with the headlights and I guaranteed the ego battery charges faster than the Toro.
Nothing like a good old fashion mow-off!
You know it! Thanks for watching!
I'm a new homeowner here looking for a lawnmower (who has never owned one before), and that particular Toro was one that caught my attention at the store. As someone who wants a good, quality mower at a decent price (and thinking electric, not gas), would there honestly be any reason not to go with the Toro? Or would the Toro be a solid choice for someone in my position? I'm not looking for anything extravagant, just something efficient enough for me to cut all my lawn in one single outing (the lot my house is on is about a quarter acre or so), that will last, and won't cost a ton.
Great Vid guys; very helpful, At the beginning of the Vid I was also watching the girl in the background from the other house how did she disappear😳 2:55 , that was amazing 🤔
I watched your video a 2nd time and thought about... your comparisons. Accept for the crazy high grass cut comparison, which most people don't get into, either works well, especially on normal lawns. I just whish Toro would adopt the pin push or one-lever height adjustment, because after mulching grass, picking up leaves in Fall and Spring at a lower setting for more suction is my greatest need. Also, Toros are made in America, which is always good to support and may become a factor in the future parts and service.
The stroller down the stairs cracked me up!
Nice review on both mowers.
Thank you ma'am!
This was a cool comparison, but with a rather fatal flaw.
The Toro comes with a single blade, a gator-type high-lift blade.
The Select Cut comes installed with a standard "mulching" blade (in addition to the second X-blade), which is a smaller, narrower blade. This is the blade that was used in the test.
But Ego *also* includes the gator-style high-lift blade, which is usually a separate accessory for other Ego mowers.
In my experience on my super classic 20" Ego mower, the high-lift blades makes an extraordinary improvement not just on pulling leaves up but also on the ability to cut through tall grass without bogging down. It also leaves no wet grass clumps nor "mohawk" stripes as someone mentioned above. I imagine the greatly improved vacuum effect of the high-lift blade has something to do with this.
Yes, the high-lift blade is louder, but if you wanted to compare apples-to-apples, you should've reviewed the Select Cut with the same type of blade installed.
So, so close to a perfect review.
I am wearing my Brett's Grasscapades shirt today!!
Rightly so!
Well done!
Thank you for watching!
Do you think the Greenworks Commercial 82 volt could go through the heavy grass without stalling.
They also make a comercial Toro battery powered mower
i just replaced my toro Super Recycler with the ego lm2022esp steal deck it has a far better cut and last longer than i ever thought it would its first cut was 15in tall wet grass using the side shoot . however if you tend to push down slightly on the handle when not using self propel it will give you a choppy cut i noticed but used correctly its great . the 7.5ah batt charges in 45 mins and i get both front and back cut with one bar of charge left takes just over 55 mins to do my lawns i would highly recommend the steel deck version .
I've heard great things about the steel deck, not sure why they don't seem to be readily available.
How old was your Super Recycler?
BTW - the 2021 EGO XP (LM2156SP) has an easy-to-set variable speed drive from about 1 mph to 3 mph and has a 6 LED battery charge level indicator and the cutting blades are 100% metal and are a reasonable thickness comparable, but slightly thinner, than gas mower blades. It also comes with 3 interchangeable blades - Standard, mulch, and a higher suction bagger-blade (comes with the mulch blade installed). The 2 on/off drive buttons, each about 4 inches long on each side of the push bar, are convenient to allow you to turn off the self-propel feature at the end of a straight cut allowing you to quickly turn the mower around and then re-engage the drive. Also, these young strong guys think the EGO is super light, but it is not “light” since it weighs 63 lb with the 7.7 lb 10 Ah battery installed. The current Toro Battery Recycler with the most features (21466) weighs 95 lb. The smallest Toro battery model (21356) only weighs 75 lb. Bottomline - you need just enough weight to keep the mower on the ground, but no more. The more excess weight you have makes it harder to handle. Th 65 lb EGO XP has enough weight to keep the mower’s wheels on the ground while mowing. Note that the best Toro battery is 7.5 Ah, compared to the 10 Ah EGO battery. The smaller 7.5 Ah Toro Battery takes 3 hours to charge. The bigger 10 Ah EGO battery only takes 1 hour to charge. EGO has a 5 year mower warranty. Toro has a 2 yr warranty on models 21356 & 21466 and a 5 yr on the 21388 which has a cast aluminum deck. Toro only warrants their battery for 3 years while EGO gives you 5 years on the battery if you register the mower within 90 days of purchase. One last thing about the mower deck material - this really doesn’t matter much. The part of the mower you want strong is the motor-to-blade drive train which no one talks about and which I don’t know about either (e.g., what happens when the blade hits a stump or metal stake?). Maybe someone rich can do a deconstruct on both the EGO and Toro? Did you also know that EGO makes an impressive looking zero-turn-radius 22 HP riding mower that can fit enough batteries to mow 4 acres?
I agree the ego has a better warranty, but I've been seeing complaints about poor warranty service recently where they were really good in the past. Also i do feel the deck strength is really important for long term reliability. It's literally the chassis.
@@awwwshucks443 which did u get
@@randomrazr Toro. Pretty happy with it too. I did end up getting another battery for it. If you get their string trimmer get the bigger one.
@@awwwshucks443 toro seems most reliable by what i read. i was gonna go for dewalt since i have dewalt tools and therefore batteries but the reviews have been very mixed
@@randomrazr I’m happy with it. To me I feel like I’m using a mower like any other I have in the past but without the smell and noise of gas.
Will the Toro eventually rust or is it rust proof?
One bad thing about the toro personal pace system is you always have to use it. You can’t use it as a push mower like you can with the ego. I really think that should’ve been talked about.
I thought the same too, but you just move your hands to the outside to do self-propelled.
You mean you can't use it like a push mower?
Iron Goose yes that’s what I meant. Sorry
What are the heights of each mower?
Talking about how long the batteries would last, Ive owned EGO brand for close to 3 years and the battery warranty is 3 years. When I noticed 2 of my 2.5 ah batteries lasting only 7 minutes on the 56v leaf blower (should last at least 15 on full blast) the EGO company replaced them under warranty. The 5.0 ah on my EGO lawnmower is still going strong. The EGO has a reset button on their chargers and the chargers will stop charging when the battery is full. It is a great product! I like Toro as well my previous mower was a 22” recycler (gas) fed and super heavy. I’ll keep the EGO.
I have had the same success with warranty on an EGO 2.5 ah and 7.5 ah batteries. The 7.5 ah started to blink its light a month before the 3-yr warranty was set to expire. For perspective, I use the 7.5 ah battery in my LM2102 self-propelled mower for about 9 months out of the year, and each mowing session is about 45 minutes, so I felt I got the life out of the battery. As for the 2.5 ah battery, it gets alot of use in my EGO 530 cfm blower - blowing leaves, drying the car, etc. Overall, no other warranty issues with the mower, line trimmer, blower, hedge trimmer, or edger.
I had a great experience with EGO warranty as well. After owning my mower for 4 years it’s starting having power issues. Since EGO was unable to pinpoint the issue, they shipped me a brand new mower. No questions asked, no runaround, no making my life hard. They simply said a new one will be at your door in 4-6 business days!
Do both batteries come with smart charge tech? I.E. can you just leave in charger without monitoring? I'm asking about causing decreasing capacity due to memory.
Honestly not sure on that one.
Sup Brett, great job
Thank you sir!
Great video
Lol, the height test and cut quality was actually funny. The walk was so slow and gentle with the Toro vs. full speed approach with EGO. At the end of day the sponsored mower wins 🤣
Hey Bill thanks for your long time support. Definitely should have slowed the ego down. But that's one of the major differences with the mowers is the dynamic speed control of the Toro over the static speed of the ego. Definitely not perfect from my side. I do however stand behind my opinion that the Toro gave a superior cut to the ego and feels like a more sturdy mower overall. Not saying the ego isn't a good option because I absolutely think it is.
Again thanks for watching.
Great video guys! You may have helped me. I was about to pull the trigger on a cordless electric mower until I saw your video. When you did the tall grass section in the pasture, you stated that you used the big boy batteries meaning 6.0 and 7.5 amh. Were those batteries fully charged when u did the tall grass test? Did the tall grass drain the full batteries in such a short time period? Like in a few feet like the video shows? This info would be very important for me! Thanks!!
It did not drain them any faster than normal use does. Thanks for watching!
Im confused. When u did pasture grass, u each cut about 4000 sq ft each on just 2.5 amh batteries. When u did the tall grass, you used big batteries in each mower and said, "lets see how far we go in the tall grass". Then you each only went like 30-40 feet and the mowers died. Were the big batteries drained in the tall grass that quickly? Thanks
@@CB-kn9oj no we went until the mower stopped mowing but the battery was not dead. It just stopped the blades.
Thanks!!! Thats what I thought but for a second, I thought that maybe the ultra high grass took its toll on the battery.
@@Brettsgrasscapades it would be clearer to say the mower stalled.
Toro is an lawn care equipment company that has battery version of their product vs ego which seems more like an electronic company making a lawn care product.. ego seems abit Toy like as if left in the sun it may warp plus being that light weight if ur bagging as it fills the weight at the back is going to make the front hop more and provide a less even cut.. Toro Hands down quality of cut over run time.. maintenance wise universal blades vs proprietary
2 very good perspectives..but I am swaying towards the Ego because of the battery charge times...
You will be happy with the ego for sure!
I know this video is old, but it just popped up in my feed, probably because I had the 60v Toro and recently switched to Ego. Why? One major factor is that battery life on the Toro was crap. I live on a corner lot in a subdivision, and I couldn't get through my less-than-0.25 acre lot plus the surrounding parkway on a single charge with the Toro. With my new Ego mower, I can do that all and still have about 50% battery life left. I also absolutely love the easy height adjustment on the Ego, and find that the dual-blade system mulches significantly better than the Toro. While I did have some reservations about switching from the Toro's steel deck to Ego's plastic, I know several people who have had Egos for years and have had no issues. And the lighter weight is a plus to me, because it makes it easier to move and store the mower. I don't even use the self-propel feature all the time because it's so much easier to push. Just some thoughts from someone who has owned both.
Two guys mowing and filming. Bravo gentlemen. Bravo 👏
Haha thank you for watching!
Brett's Grasscapades always entertaining occasionally I learn something 😂
Haha I'll take occasionally learning something!
Great video. I think the Ego is great for women, those with strength issues, teens and those who like a light mower.
What about bagging performance?? It has been found the exit ramp on the Toro is so steep it won't blow clipping into the bag very well - leaves a lot of clippings on the ground.
I like them both, trying to decide between these or the Greenworks, but I need a snow-blower too on the same battery platform.
The Ego Select-Cut has better cutting performance, and their snow machine is really nice with the steel auger.
I really wanted the Toro, I started pushing them around when I as a little kid - Grandpa always had Toros. But half the season we bag as the grass grows so fast, so it's kind of a bummer in that regard.
My mom has the EGO and she loves it.
If Ego had the Personal Pace self propelled system,that would be the machine I would buy.Personal Pace is the king of self propelled as far as I’m concerned.
OK, this may piss some off, but I don't care, as I'm actually looking to buy a mower. So to sum up:
1) With 7.5ah battery the cost win goes to EGO. $599 vs $659.
2) For the thick stuff the test was flawed since you took your time with the Toro and the Toro had the conventional blade. I'm not saying this was intentional. I have seen another test where the EGO beat 17 other electrics and 6 gas mowers including 2 Commercial mowers. It barely lost to a Commercial grade Honda. Calling it a draw.
3) Ergonomics is a mixed bag and is largely an unknown since you just can't make a proper decision without using each. Heavier/lighter, handle adjustment, ease of storage, and drive type and controls.
4) Features: this a tough one with the mulch/bagger switch and the visual battery charge LEDs. But... you can easily push the lighter EGO with its ball-bearing wheels and you cannot with the Toro.
So, to me it is a tough call from my chair. The biggest thing for me is I think I want the steel deck because I generally hate plastic. Of course the plastic will never rust. At 83lbs the Toro is still light(my cub cadet is 135lbs). Toro does have larger wheels(you should have mentioned this) 11/9 vs. 9/7. Toro has 22" blade vs. EGOs 2 21" blades. EGO goes farther on a charge using self propulsion and can be pushed without using it.
And then there's the Kobalt mower that gets the heads up on another site as best overall. This is gonna be really tough.
Did I sum it up fairly well?
Toro having larger wheels is mentioned at 11:02 FYI
I’m debating between these two mowers right now. Thanks for your thoughts!
The mulch blade on the EGO hurt it on the large grass competition. If they each had the same blades, it would have been close. The EGO does do a bit better job mulching than the Toro does. Also, the Toro is built tougher but it does have plastic wheels while the EGO has ball bearings.
toro weighs 83 pounds? how much does the ego weigh?
One thing that I don't think was mentioned. My son has an ego which I borrow a couple times a year (I live in an HOA which does all the grass cutting except a couple times a year which is when I borrow my sons Ego). The Ego does a very poor job on sucking up leaves or mulching. I had a gas Toro Self Pace and it was outstanding sucking up leaves and grass clippings (Sold it when we moved into HOA). I just wonder if this electric Toro Self Pace is as good as the gas Toro. I had ours for 25 years and loved it.
If you are smaller or have a lot of turns. I would think the ego wins. Longer straight aways. The Toro wins hands down. But, as you mentioned. The Toro gets a big hand up with being able to get parts to fix if something breaks. Witch shouldn't happen anyway.
Great to see another company one uping Ego. This was a great comparison. Time to start putting off my 2-year ego review. I've got some major gripes.
I really am a big fan of the Toro. It seriously just feels like a normal lawn mower. The ego is great but doesn't provide the traditional mower experience.
Why? Do you have a grudge or something?
@@Drimirin no, I just have some major gripes.
Going in that high grass why didn’t you guys lift the decks? A gas mower would have trouble cutting that with the deck that low
There’s a potential issue that no one mentions; repair. The Tora can be repaired by any Toro dealer and probably many independents. The only difference between it and the gas version is the motor and battery vs. engine. The EGO, which I own, can only be serviced by EGO, especially during the warrantee period. My first EGO was returned to Home Depot after the 3rd mowing when the self propelled speed control failed. My 2nd EGO’s speed control failed the start of the 3rd season. One must return it for warantee service through Home Depot. It has been 3 months and I do not expect to see it again this year. I hope your EGO does not break. BTW, I’m curently running an old 2-stroke Lawn Boy which I have kept running myself for 20 years.
Absolutely fair points! I think the real unknown is the long term reliability of the battery mowers.
The long term issues that might arise with battery powered mowers was the reason why I bought a Toro Super Recycler over The Ego. That SR should last a long time and I expect to have it for at least 10 years and maybe a lot more. It's a high quality mower so I don't expect to be messing around with petty things on it either like wheels and ropes. Plus the deck is aluminum. It cost $50.00 less than The Ego at the time too. The Ego on the other hand will require an expensive battery at some point, present costs for a 7.5 amh bat is like $300! I probably won't spend that much on my SR in 15 years and if I do it will be spread out over those years and not all at once
. Now if I made a lot of money this might not be an issue for me and the convenience of a battery powered mower.........
You are the first person I've heard having reliability issues with your Ego and I'm glad you brought this to light. One of the selling points of battery powered mowers is maintance free but what good is that when they aren't reliable and it takes forever to get one fixed?
I hope someone develops a battery powered 28"-30" dual blade mower. Like a battery powered version of the Toro Timemaster (which I own). A lighter, quieter version of that mower would be fantastic! Greenworks now has a 25" version so maybe before long we'll see something along those lines. That's what I'm holding out for!
Me too. I I’m waiting for a wider cut
Ego makes an electric motor meant to replace gasoline engines equipment with up to 200cc equivalent gasoline engines.
I haven’t seen where to buy them, but it looked exciting. Put one of them on the Toro timemaster or anything else.
Good job!
Thank you sir!
Another Pleasant Valley Sunday.
Great “normal guy” review! I get annoyed by the professional landscaper/TH-camrs with the obnoxious heavy-metal music with flame-thrower graphics along with a bunch of clips from their previous videos splashed across the screen for the first 10 minutes. I have expensive editing software too, it doesn’t mean it has to be used for every damn video. I’m usually exhausted before getting to the actual content. This was a no nonsense review with clear language and a refreshing down to earth approach. Thanks guys!
Thank you! I try to keep things real! I really appreciate your feedback!
With side discharge, both could go through the tall, thick, stuff.
You're probably correct. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for taking the time and effort for the review.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Look out JP. Brett has an electric fence around the pasture project. 😆 😆 great video boyz 👍👍
Oh yeah it will get ya!
Does the toro fold and store out of the way similar to the ego?
Yes it will fold and flip up as well. Not one handed but still pretty easily.
Eliminator it does and I think even better than the Ego. Just flip those 2 blue levers and fold. The Ego you also have to flip open the two levers on the bars to fully compact it. Just got the Toro as Home Depot had it on sale for 450 and I love it.
ILoveSpeed716 thanks for the reply. I tried two EGOs, but just wasn’t happy with the cut quality. Height set on 5 of 7 and it left way to many un cut blades of grass. Could be I have gotten too used to my Scag rider cut quality but they didn’t cut clean enough. Glad you like the Toro, maybe I’ll give that a try.
Eliminator I should mention my lawn is very small and I am not that picky though I think it does a good job.😊
SmartStow comes standard on toro battery lawn mowers. I think it's something all mowers should have as Briggs and Stratton has the Mow n Stow tech
It's all about what height of grass can you cut on full speed
I would have loved to see a comparison between this Toro and the Ego with the steel deck.
Send me one and I'll gladly review it!
@@Brettsgrasscapades LOL - if I could, I would :D Just so many of the comparison points seemed to be comparing the lightweight plastic mower to a heavy, steel deck mower, it would be nice to see a more apples to apples comparison. Still enjoyed your review!
@@KMouseff You definitely have some solid points! If I had an unlimited budget I would defiantly get one. Unfortunately there is only so much I can get. Thanks for watching!
@@Brettsgrasscapades I hear ya! I can't afford to do the comparison, either, or I'd do it and let you know how it went :)
What is the price and how many batteries do you get with each?
ToroRecycler 21 in. SmartStow 60-Volt Lithium-Ion Brushless Cordless Battery Walk Behind Mower RWD 6.0 Ah w/ Battery&Charger $399.00 at the Orange box store
Ego POWER+ 56-Volt 21-in Push Cordless Electric Lawn Mower 5 Ah (Battery and Charger Included) $399.00 at the blue box store
Love me some Brettcology.
It's a new channel.
I’ve owned the 2nd gen ego and noticed when cutting at 4 inches it left grass laying down with Mohawk stripes... I sold that one and purchased both the ego select cut and toro 60 volt and the cut quality on the toro is far superior... the select cut still left Mohawk stripes where the toro cuts clean. I think if you mow at 3 inches or less with the ego it cuts fine. Love the toro 60 volt cut quality!!! Great review by you both!
Spot on review! I've noticed the same thing. I mow with the ego on the lowest setting and it does really well but the higher cut it had issues.
I feel better because I thought I was the only one with that same issue. I purchased my Ego last year and it took me a while until I noticed that the suction was terrible on the higher settings. From the #3 setting up it was terrible. In the fall I purchased the high lift blade and it help a little but not much and I have to mow at the #3 setting which they say is roughly 2.5 inches. The #4 setting (3 inches) with the high lift blade is ok but not great either so, I'm stuck mowing at 2.5 inches, it sucks having constantly go back to where the grass matts down, rake it up so it stands and then mow it again and its tough to get every spot. I'm going to finish out the season with the Ego and get rid of it for the Toro to use next year as I've heard that the lift on it is very good even in the higher settings...I also heard the Greenworks Commercial line (21 inch) is very good too but its pricey.
I tried to contact Ego about this but they never really gave me a straight answer but, does the lack of suction or lift on the higher settings have anything to do with the plastic housing? The thin blade? or a combination of both? You pointed out on the video that the Toro has a similar blade to a gas mower and of course it has the steel housing so, I wonder if that's is the reason for the gas mower type lift?
Stevie M... personally I think the Toro has better suction because of the blade and the deck design. The toro 60 volt blade is the exact same blade for the gas mower as well.
Did you swap on the high lift blade on your select cut?
You were walking noticeably slower with the Toro on the full height stress test. That would give the extra distance as well as better cut quality.
There are plusses and minuses for each and it will come down to individual preferences for certain things like cut quality, or cost, or runtime , weight, personal pace, plug/no plug, triple height adjustment and you won't be too disappointed with either mower. If you pick a top two of those, this review does a good job if you watch the whole review and not just the end.
Brett, just curious what the pasture is for? Animals?
It's just an acre lot thats not is use this season.
@@Brettsgrasscapades Great video by the way!
Good way to have your friend do half the work.
When it comes down to is user preference LOL I think you were leaning more towards the Toro. I think the ego is more futuristic lighter and last longer and the battery is charged faster. Also show the condition of the blades looks like you did a lot of heavy cutting which blade takes more abuse and we all know the battery all last longer and charge faster on the ego that's important to me. Again seems like you guys were leaning towards the Toro. What I did like about the Toro is the bagging and the mulching option but still looks old fashion to me eagles more futuristic. And when you're cutting 3 ft grass you definitely have to go slow
Holly banana…Your grass is simply spectacular.