I went to Argentina! My thoughts on youth soccer there
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2024
- 00:00 Start
01:15 Youth Futbol Culture
02:04 Cost
02:51 Player Movement
04:21 Academy Environment
05:04 Academy Games
06:18 Players
07:40 Facilities
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As an argentinian i have to tell you that practice sessions and matches are not that technical and professional at that age because we think that is better for them to enjoy the game instead of taking it too seriously.
That was my impression. Was refreshing to be honest.
@@CoachRorySoccer
It becomes more and more professional once they start climbing up categories tho.
I work in security for "Club Sarmiento de Junin" and get to see reserve and u18 matches, they are as good if not better than first team matches tbh.
Recently Belgrano played against Velez here for the national reserve cup, was a fantastic game!!
Agreed. I think it's also the main factor behind the difference in parent intensity. There's just a higher level of competitiveness about anything and everything in average American mentality. IMO
@@FR-AN I think is simply the case that argentinians in average understand the sport a lot more than "americans" and that's the reason they trust in coaches. Also no need to pressure the kids, we know only a really small portion of them will reach first division anyway.
Potrero's life...that's the Big Trick
Born in the United States but my dad was from Argentina and I was partially raised there. You started the video with a great observation that futbol is everywhere. I played in Argentina and would not have gone to a club or even a try out if I did not think I was good enough playing in the local park or street. Kids in Argentina teach each other, there is a peer pressure to learn or practice and attempt tricks or what they call gambeta. Parents might not send their child to a club if they dont think the child is good enough. Like an uncoordinated tall skinny kid might be placed in basketball or voleyball instead. Sports in general are popular in Argentina, none like futbold, but sports like rugby, basketball and tennis are very popular and its full of kids that were seen as not good enough to play soccer. A kid would be embarrassed to play soccer if he could not properly shoot the ball or field passes.
Thanks for sharing!
Sos Argentino. El Argentino nace donde quiere. Feliz aniversario de la copa del mundo titán
@@Bleuthatupme considero Italo Argentino, sigo teniendo familia en Rosario y BsAs pero tambien Italia
@@fernandoverdini7761 bueno, como dos tercios de argentina (yo también!). Que lindo nunca perder contacto con el terruño
Abrazo campeón
You have a cool background.
I feel our kids in the US don't play enough at the local park/street. I wonder why.
I noticed Argentina were in the Rugby World Cup.
Another very very very big difference is the killing of creativity in many US high level soccer teams. I come from an all Argentinian family but was born and lived my whole life here in the Us. I’ve played primarily in the ECNL system here, but I have traveled often and played with Velez. The biggest difference to me is how the game is played. The US is too focused on long balls and running for running’s sake going off your point of a limited tactical understanding. Many coaches I’ve had have discouraged dribbling and playing the game with fun and creativity, instead opting for robotic and dull passes backwards and long balls forward to the attackers. The beauty of Argentinian football to me is that this is not discouraged. In the US coaches scream at you to take max 2 touches and play quickly. However, forcing a player to only take 2 touches is not how u teach to play quickly. The beauty of Argentinian football is that players still do play quickly and selflessly but are not discouraged from dribbling. Through playing so much, players in Argentina have learned when to take 2 or less touches and when to hold the ball, turn a man and play. There is a wrong emphasis in the US with what they consider “playing quickly” which is basically limiting technical players to 2 touches even when it doesn’t make sense to only 2 touches. At a young age, all this does is take away the flair and creativity from young developing players.
Totally, my friend. I was thinking that. Our passion for the 1on1 is what drives us and the reason why Argentina produces players that are different. I don't even have to name them. Dribbling is the fun of football.
Por eso argentina tiene 3 copas del mundo y estados unidos le dice soccer al futbol
I'm curious to know which area of the country you play in. This country is so big that there are different styles of play all over. In Miami, long ball is not king. Not like it is in Austin for example. ECNL is another story. The pressure those clubs feel to win definitely destroys creativity.
There is a similar scourge in NZ. ‘Quick release, quick release!’ Even when there is space to drive into. Opposition players also know that our players have to get rid of the ball so don’t have to pressure the ball carrier and can just wait for the daft pass to no one or straight back to them (the opponent). Drives me nuts.
soy argentino y crecí en usa. jugué al fútbol en el high school y dejé el equipo porque no se podía jugar con entrenadores yanquis. no tienen idea de lo que es el fútbol. es soccer. una pavada total
I'll add something to the culture. We all play at all ages. I'm 42. I am not really a good player. I was never good a player. But I still play at least twice a week. In fact I just came back home from a game on a 9-a-side pitch where the youngest was 17 and the oldest was 65.-
Thank you!
oh yeah this so much. Wer hace a culture of Futbol 5 (five a side soccer) where you just gather friends and people of different age, everytthing is valid and you just play. Sometimes someone comes with his 13 lil cousein, simetimes old uncle with 65 wants to take part, and its amazing you have to adapt to wathever is on the field and every player knows his strenght, is very common to have the younglins as fast ball carriers for example, the old and big guys as an impassable defense and giving long passes, but no one has to say anything, you just know what you can do and cant do given your physiche
That's true, I play once a week with my work colleagues and once a week with my pals. I'm a mechanic and the dudes I play with go from 25 to like deep 50s and they play play, they got cardio for days, dudes can have a like a serious protruding beer gut or be 100 kilos plus in weight and still be able to run, sprint, jog, etc because their are so adapted to the activity it's hilarious. I'm 30 and I still enjoy playing, I love a good 5v5 with a smaller and heavier n⁰4 ball.
That is another good point, related to my last comment, the USA has no soccer culture (for men's soccer that is, because for women's soccer they have a great culture and that is why USA is normally good at women's soccer)
This is such a nice and accurate comment. As a woman, I´ve played my whole life, and I'm still playing "mixto" matches (men and women) at 34 years old, and being in Mexico now. We're all people from Argentina, and sometimes a few Mexicans join.
All ages and everywhere.
Nah that first point is CRUCIAL. I started coaching high school boys this year, and easily 90% of my team never watch soccer or touch a ball outside of practices and games. And yet they (and their parents) are wanting me to get them to a level where they can get a full ride to some D1 school or something. Crazy.
So true.
That's the cultural part of it. Here in Argentina you'll find in old pubs, older folks who hasn't touch a ball since 1978, that can almost predict the outcome of the game on the TV.. because they watch and talk about fútbol day and night, during their whole lifes. When he's not working, my pather, who's a River fan, can watch fútbol for hours, even if it's a 3thrd division match, or the repetition of a past match.
huh how is that possible
This is perplexing to me too. Maybe it's just the attention issue with sitting down to watch 90 minutes. My son plays for a travel team, doesn't watch full games but he watches highlights. I suppose I could make him watch Liverpool matches with me but I'm glad he watches highlights at least. I coach U-12 boys and most of them do not watch soccer. They don't even play FIFA!
What do you tell the parents? 😂😂
You can't become good at anything if you don't have fun with it first. That's why kids can still learn even with substandard facilities; the fun compensates for any problems you may have. A too structured learning process is counterproductive, and parents overinvolvement on children's fun only reflects parents' emotional deficits. Let them have fun because they're learning; it's a participatory process in which parents can only provide support in the development of a passion. This is what's missing in most of the educational systems in the world.
Que grande! Con la camiseta de Belgrano de Cordoba, club de donde surgió el gran Cuti Romero.
I'm from Argentina and I can attest it's a country where soccer is deeply ingrained in the culture. Growing up, playing soccer was a significant part of my everyday life. I vividly remember the countless hours spent playing with friends, a time filled with joy and camaraderie. It was on those makeshift fields that I first learned to play at the age of six or seven, often practicing alone at home to refine my technique. Soccer wasn't just a sport for me; it was a passion so intense that I always had my ball with me, even during family vacations. Then when I started playing at a club, what they taught and gave me was structure, organization, and tactical knowledge.
Great insight.
Estaba por comentar al respecto, un capo. Alto ingles crack!
Bueno ser de Belgrano imaginate
A mi en México me gustaba tanto el fútbol cuando era niño y adolescente, que los días entre semana previos a los partidos de mi liga amateur del fin de semana, yo me iba a la Cama pensando y soñando como iba a jugar dando pases, quitando balones y metiendo goles.
Rory: I am Argentine, 68 years old, I really like soccer and I want to transmit to you things that I learned from people who are very studious about Argentine Soccer. The basic rule to understand Argentine soccer is in the culture of the people: soccer is played in a similar way to how they live. First: people are passionate about what they work, do or think politically. Second: When a child is born it is a family matter of which club the child is going to be a fan of (traditionally the same team as the father) and the baby is given a soccer club shirt. Third: the idiosyncrasy of soccer as a game for children is to ridicule their brand with soccer skill, this means passing it with skill, not with speed, but with talent with the ball at their feet. Fourth: demonstrating talent with the ball at your feet is showing hierarchy to vilify your rival. Finally, 40 years ago I read a note from a US researcher regarding Argentine soccer....she mentioned some things that I narrated in this note, but she said that a Pele, a Maradona...can only emerge in countries where soccer is passion and this only happens in Argentina and Brazil. The children who play ball in Argentina play with passion and soccer is everything for them. They dream of being Maradona, not like that in other countries, it is just a recreational activity. In the stands, the fans cheer because they are not overflowing with passion for their team. In general, in the stands of soccer fields in Argentina, although they have seats, the fans watch the game standing without sitting because their passion does not allow them to sit. For them it is not a spectacle, they feel part of the football game and that they participate by encouraging their team without stopping....this encouragement brings down the players and does not allow them to play relaxed...but they do it with passion, like the people in the stands.
Envi
Thank you for sharing!
Everyone in England used to stand, crushed together, for football matches, but then an accident happened where a lot of people got crushed against a fence (our passion meant fans used to rush onto the pitch) so now we all sit.
That is also true.
Que bien explicado!
Soccer in Argentina is very easy to play. It is not necessary to have facilities at all. You just need to improvise a playing field in a square, garden of a house or any space where the ball can run. Only one ball is required. If it doesn't exist for money or whatever, you improvise with what you have on hand.
At my primary school we were not allowed to carry a ball. It only existed in gym classes. That's why, during recess, we played with plastic soda lids, Coca Cola cans, or anything that pretended to be a ball.
that´s right, or a ball made of a newspaper with scotch tape
All good points; none as relevant as kids playing with and against older kids, in rough fields (even on asphalt, when grassy areas are not available), and yes, ALL THE TIME. In Argentina, every family gathering, every birthday or anniversary party, is an opportunity to improvise a game. You don't need fancy football shoes, shin-guards, or perfect nets: you can play shoeless or in flip flops, the goal would be made with a bunch of piled sweatshirts on each side, and the game ends when you absolutely can't see the ball because the night has fallen.
In Brazil (I belieave in Argentina too) we use Futsal to make kids understand space and the importace of movement... I think that experience realy helps when you start to play in a bigger pitch!
YEs you are right, all my childhood I played Futbol sala / futsal in Argentina, that is where I learned most of my footwork as a kid and quick passing, it makes you act quicker under pressure
im from argentina and never knew of the existence of futsal, always plays futbol 5 in fake glass fields (mas o menos creo q le pegue en la gramatica jajjaja)
Futsal it's a thing but not for youths down here in Argentina, unless you are from Buenos Aires City, were they have a lot of places that have the facilities to engage in futsal, the rest of the country plays in potreros for the most part, they are like little patches of land with grass or just dirt and gravel were people set up 1 or 2 goal posts 🥅, those places have no roof and kids play with whatever ball they can get their hands on. The potreros are free, anyone can play. Now there is also neighborhood clubs that do have a small fee, almost every neighborhood have those, potreros are everywhere. As you get older people rent pitches to play, and 5v5 futsal pitches with roofs are sought-after because you can play with bad weather, you can park your car there, you don't need that many people to play and you begin to actually play futsal way later in life than in Brazil, it's my personal favorite. There is more options available in the market too, like 5v5 with artificial grass, 7v7 with artificial grass, natural grass or just dirt, 9v9 pitches and full size pitches for rent too, there is also constantly open tournaments with cash prices year round, they could be short format or long format. I mean there is always an option for everyone out there to play, no matter your budget, your level or your involvement.
You nail it. That’s the real difference. When you learn how to play in a small space you can develop a great technique that will make different whenever you play in a big pitch
@@joshuawalker301 Yo siempre vi en cada plazita una canchita de fútbol 5 y mira que recorri casi todo el pais. Tipica canchita en la plaza, o mismo en el pasto meten dos arcos a medida parecida la de futbol 5. Aunque no sea futsal es prácticamente lo mismo. Muchos chicos juegan asi
Hello coach, I am from Argentina. The physical, technical and quick decision making has to do with the "POTRERO" where children of very different ages gather to play, there we learn to play because the situations vary all the time, also the surfaces where we play give us another contact with the ball .
Thank you! Interesting but makes sense.
@@CoachRorySoccer I want to add more context. A lot of these kids comes from "villas" (very, VERY poor neightborhoods) and it's common in villas to play for money. And that money sometimes is the difference to eat or not. And the teams are age mixed, so you can see a 14 yo kid playing with 25 yo men. And those grown men probably have childs to feed, so they're not going to be care to going too much physical against the youngest kids.
Spot on! Potrero games have no coaches or parents telling players what to do, you have to figure it out on your own.
What exactly is "Potrero"?
@@nofurtherwest3474 Potrero it a backyard, or a Park, or an empty field with mud or high grass, a basketball court, wherever you can put 2 tshirts as goals and play soccer 3vs3, 4vs4, 5vs5 etc with or without keeper. Any time, any season, Day or night. With friends or against the rivals of the Block.
I think you got it right. I have played in Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Australia. South Americans have the Space-Speed concept developed through unlimited time of watching the game. They consider futbol as a "religion" and Pele, Messi and Maradona are literally idolised.
You have mentioned that the game is more physical, I totally agree with that. Argentinians are definitely more "forward" at the moment to stop an opponent, worth watching some games between Argentina and Brazil from the 90's...
Last point worth mentioning, for many unprivileged kids in South America, football is a way to get out of poverty.
Great observations coach. I was born in Argentina and have an American dad. I played in both places.
Another aspect that might have been harder to observe over the course of a month is player selection. Compared to the US, athleticism is not emphasized, as the differences tend to diminish over time. Argentina has no U-17 titles but the most U-20 titles.
Great point. Thank you!
Being American with an Argentine mom and playing a lot in the US and a bit in Argentina (going there today actually), this is spot on. In Argentina, I would feel at an athletic advantage sometimes while I was at a huge athletic disadvantage in the US. The us focuses on the wrong thing, which is athleticism, while Argentina focuses on quality knowing you can make any player athletic once they reach their late teens and start to become men. I think if I played my whole life in Argentina rather than the US I would still be playing competitively today as a 19-year-old.
In Argentina and South America in general, futbol is a passion. That kind of passion for the sport will never exist in the USA no matter how much money you throw at it. Passion for anything leads to excellence.
Born in Argentina, my family moved to the States when I was 10. You hit the nail on the head when it comes to "soccer" culture in Argentina. As a kid, I remember countless hours in pick-up games en el "campito". These games would include kids of all ages and skill levels. They would last for hours. You could go home, get some rest come back hours later and there'd still be games going on. No drills, no coaches just the raw fun of playing, with the freedom to create, make mistakes, and learn as you are often going up against older better players.
I never got into soccer here. Instead, my brother and I ended up playing hockey(above amateur ranks). We fell in love with the sport, the physicality/skill/grace. But what struck me was the prohibitive cost of even getting into the sport. The costs associated with ice time and the lack of any grassroots culture or accessibility to pick-up games almost ensured no poor kid could play. Maybe it is different in Canada or up north with their pond hockey culture, but in the southwest ice is hard to come by. As my brother and I rose through the ranks into serious traveling teams etc, the fun/joy of playing and the freedom to create was taken away, and with it the ability for unique skills to develop. I don't know if that's the same with youth soccer, but when you take the fun and the creativity out of any sport you'll end up with a bunch of very well-trained bots. To a certain degree, it's what I see hampering the dev of youth soccer in the states. Soccer in the States needs more "rucker parks"
So so true, well said
Futbol is so much a part of our culture that we may play with whatever we find. As a kid I would spend my summer hollidays in the argentine city of San Juan. There I would play with other kids in the neighbourhood. But we played on the sidewalk, without shoes, using an empty plastic bottle as the ball and the goals were marked with our shoes. No bath would later remove the dirt from my feet.
I was born and grew up in Uruguay.
We used to play every day in school recess, after school with friends on the street or any patch of grass we had (front yard, backyard, etc.)
When we had practice, parents weren't there neither.
They only went to see the official games in the weekends.
Now I live in Hawaii and see that kids only play group sports only if it is organized by somebody, not freely among friends.
I see parents taking their kids to practice and watching them sitting on their little foldable chairs.
For me it is very weird.
I guess that is part of the different culture.
All those observations are correct.
Nice video!
Thanks!
I think it’s a newer thing here in the US….back when I was a kid in the 90’s we played every single day whatever we could…mostly football basketball or hockey on street/local fields. We even made up sports. Now when I go back to the old neighborhood outside of Washington DC I never see kids out there anymore.
My husband from NJ played ice hockey on somebody’s yard , in winter his father would throw water on the driveway and wait for it to freeze and the neighbor boys came over for hours of fun 😊
Nadie te pregunto Yorugua, estan hablando de Argentina
Tomatela de aca yorugua es un video argentino de un gringo casado con un cordobesa hablando de argentina vola de aca.
I am english. I'm 57 now but when I was a kid, I played every second possible. During breaks at school and after school. And also for the school. As an adult I still play every week with friends and I follow premier league football and world competitions such as the world cup euros etc.
I now live in Uruguay, Argentina's neighbour and I play in a group whose members range from 18 to 60. I am the second oldest in the group. We all play with a lot of energy and enthusiasm. In terms of technical ability there is a lot of great ball control but (and I think I speak for Argentina too) there is less ability to play as a team. My friends are not great at tactical play or passing. They love to dribble and take long range shots even when there are better options open and I think this plagues the mode of play generally in this region, an emphasis on technical ability but less on team build up. This is why I think the success of teams in this part of the world comes in waves becuase they need an entire squad of talented players, not just good team work. Europe can tend to suffer from the opposite problem.
I work in a Uruguayan school with a tiny playground and every moment of every break the area is full of boys playing football.
I should add that as a school kid I played basketball and was considered a good player, the best in my school and we had a great team. As an adult I worked in an American school where I was invited to play basketball and I was basically rubbish. And this is because basketball is the USA's street game while for soccer nations it is football.
Thank you for sharing!!!
Very good point on comparing basketball as street sport in the USA and men's soccer not.
Tampoco sirve hacer 1300 pases al costado que no llegan a nada,como hizo españa con su "tiki taka" en el ultimo mundial jajajjaa🇦🇷🌟🌟🌟🌎👑
@@nicomtd8975 ya explique eso. Que las selecciones de europa sufren el problema opuesto.
Es verdad que en el futbol rioplante los jugadores habilidosos son bastante egoistas, o como se decia en mi barrio, morfones. preferian errar un gol que pasarsela al compañero. A los habilidosos les gusta hacerse ver pero en general no son buenos jugando en equipo. Nunca me gusto DiMaria justamente por eso. en los ultimos años se volvio mucho mas generoso con la pelota y su juego mejoro tremendamente. En ese sentido Messi es un distinto: un habilidoso que le gusta hacer jugar a sus compañeros. por ese defecto en Argentina faltan buenos numeros 5.
The best way for your US viewers to understand youth futbol here in Argentina is to compare it with mid-1900's baseball in the US, where most kids in farms or small cities would spend several hours a day either studying or working (in farming for example) but every minute they could spare, they would get their gloves and baseballs and just start thrwoing the ball or even playing if they had a friend close by. What would happen is that word would get out (or just by pure luck) and a recruiter would spot a kid that was good and take him to the club to try him. Basically, it is that. The only difference is that we haven't lost that. Kids here do dream about playing in the big clubs and that is actually still possible for many of the good ones. What happens once they get to train with the club for a few months or even a year is another story. They do get it rough. Even if they are the next Messi.
Thanks for the insights!
Im guatemalean
this country is poor and forgotten by god
but we do love and enjoy futbol
I played it since very little even i´m not good at it :D
"This is not just a game, it's a part of who they are" imposible describirlo mejor ⚽❤
Imagine if all of the passion we have for baseball, basketball, and American football were all combined into one sport.
exactly. probably though this is why soccer will never reach the highest levels in the US, we just have too many sports all competiting against each other for time/money of the fans.
I used to live in La Plata, every sunday i went to see the games of kids in the 15/16 years old range of the bigs clubs, Estudiantes, Newells, Argentinos Jr, River, Boca etc, you have to see that kind of games next visit, is amazing
Yes already planning my futbol experiences for next visit. Thank you!
@@CoachRorySoccer is great to see futbol soccer growing in th US, i m shure that you will find great talents in the neighborhoods
Free flowing sessions foster fun and creativity. It makes you love to play the game.
Hola, Hello. My kids just finished their "youth soccer" career in the US where they moved from Venezuela 10 years ago. My experience matches what you have summarized in this video. I would add one particular aspect I noticed: in their former Venezuelan team (which was linked to an AC Milan youth franchise) they were encouraged to play long practices with minimum attention to tactics or field positioning: on the contrary, ball control and dribbling was encouraged so the player learns to play in traffic (there was also a neural-developmental rationale behind it: younger brains are easier to be wired when it comes to motor skills). Then, when they moved to the next age group, they would be introduced to field positioning, tactics, etc. In the US the practices were very well structured and very tactical, but you can tell that in general, the kids were lacking in ball control. Yes, they were excellent athletes (my experience in the Midwest, the matches get as physical as a hockey game) but they couldn't make the ball obey them. This was compounded by the fact that in the US, in general, the kids touch the ball in practice and then during the matches only. In some other countries, the kids play formally or informally every day, multiple times, so by certain age, the number of hours spend with the ball can easily double their American counterparts.
That is very true
The way most kids learn how to play is just by going to a park and playing against other older kids. Since older kids will just happen to better, kids look at them and try to imitate their movement, tricks and a specific type of "street touch", a touch which is very foundamental to South American players. In addition, a lot of kids/young teens play futsal where they learn a different type of ball control, flair, reaction time, intuition and pace. Since space is much more reduced and the surface is different, they start picking up different techniques to control which translate into a real pitch. Having a smaller playing area, helps their reaction to be quicker because pressure is continuos, you hear callouts from other players, etc. These essential skills develop into something more structured and technical once they are part of an academy. I think its done inversely in the US, where kids just run around a cone, do some dribbling drills and shoot at an open net but they don't really get to pick up on foundations which are later needed once a kid gets to his teens. I understand that in the US people do it for some sort incentive, everybodys gotta eat, but i think there should more freedom for kids to play and learn.
This is great, and these conversations need to happen so much more. Pay to play is killing youth soccer in places like USA and Australia, as well as unclear pathway for kids. Interesting what you said about the parents at games, that is insightful.
Also, what you said about facilities is so true. I watched video yesterday on a coach in Croatia. At one of their academies, they have 1 pitch to work on from ages 9 through to 19. First team has a grass oval as well. But most of the training sessions the kids are using half a pitch. This is from a country that has 4 million people and made the world cup final in 2018. Amazing the difference culture makes.
Totally agree.
The half pitch is as if they're practicing "futsal" which is a 3~4 smaller field. Good to learn how to work on tight spaces.
@@axellyann5085 correct. It's also because they have no other option at their facility.
Soy Argentino y vivo en USA, creo que hay dos grandes diferencias que cambian todo, el primero y el mas importante es la cultura futbolistica que existe en Argentina éso solo se logra con decadas y decadas de pasión y es algo que salvo Brasil ningún otro pais lo tiene y la segunda diferencia es que la unica manera de llegar a jugar en primera en USA es que te vaya bien en el colegio y entrar por universidades y de esa manera se pierden muchos talentos que quedan en el camino como pasa con el basketball hay muchos cracks jugando en las calles que no llegaron a la NBA por lo ya mencionado. Es mi humilde opinion, muy buen video.!
Te olvidaste de Uruguay
Hi coach, I agree with your points. I don't know too much about US youth soccer, however everything you point out about Argentinian youth soccer is spot on.
One thing I want to point out because you were in Cordoba, Six-a-side youth soccer, called baby futbol. In Buenos Aires there are more than 200 clubs, spanning multiples ages, where almost all the professional players started they career. Riquelme, Sorin, Cambiasso, Gago, Paredes, Redondo all played in Parque, a famous baby futbol club.
I was going to say that! This is huge. I think the 200 figure is too low. I'm originally from Wilde in the south of Buenos Aires and, from the top of my head, I can count 10 or 15 clubs only in my area. These clubs, founded and run by the community, do an incredible job in providing players for the big clubs among other even more important things. Club Parque is famous but there are players emerging from this Social Clubs everywhere. My little club produced the Milito brothers who ended up playing for Independiente and Racing first and then for Barcelona and Inter, one of them winning the champions league.
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Thanks!
Argentinian here. My younger son (8) moves around the house with a small ball on his feet. All the time. Sometimes, when he crosses some other member of the family, a small football exchange occurs. It's amazing to see how fast he has enhanced his ball management and protection (using his body).
Now, when he is in a game, those things happens naturally, and he can concentrate on other - more tactical - things
Tengo 51, soy de Rosaro y sigo jugando. Después de la escuela primaria a la mañana TODAS las santas tardes nos juntabamos con los chicos a jugar al fútbol en el parque independencia.Si existe el paraiso debe ser una repetición infinita de esas tardes de alegría y fútbol.
Yo dejé de jugar futbol en la calle a los 12 años. Pero, mientras fui niño mi unico juguete era la pelota, y salia al barrio a jugar al futbol con los niños. A veces salia un vecino mio solo, y yo veia que estaba jugando solo, y salia a jugar un arco a arco con él, y cuando otro vecino veia que eramos 2, salia y jugabamos una marianela, que le deciamos asi a cuando uno va al arco y los demas juegan a meter gol todos contra todos en un solo arco. o el 25. En realidad lo interesante que tiene el futbol cuando sos chiquito son todas las modalidades de futbol que podes jugar con tus amiguitos. Despues a los 11 ya empezabamos a competir con otros barrios. Recuerdo que llegue a ser bastante bueno, pero despues me enganche con el basquet y el voley. Ahora soy un patadura.
@@luquitaz5 Acá en el centro de rosario hay dos parques muy grandes(Urquiza e Independencia) a dónde ibamos a jugar. Eran los tiempos en que los niños podían andar solos por las calles. Ahora para que un pibe haga deporte con regularidad y seguridad hay que llevarlo a club. Lo que vos contás de organizarnos para jugar sin importar cuántos eramos pasaba tal cual, poner las remeras para hacer los arcos, el "pan y queso" que hacian los mejores para eleguir los jugadores, todo eso es parte de la inocencia de la niñez.Para los que tuvimos la suerte de tener una familia que nos crió con amor la niñez es la patria de todos.
El 25! cuando eramos menos 4 salia un 25. Y al que atajaba cuando se metia el gol 25, patada en las nalgas 😂. Pero si era amigo pateabas despacito.
I used to take pictures for the youth academy of a team currently in Argentina's first division, and you're absolutely right about parent intensity. What's interesting is that we're probably the most intense crowds when it comes to professional matches, but getting worked up about kids' football is crass. They're supposed to be learning, they'll have enough pressure soon enough if they keep going through the ranks. Even the youth coaches will state that they don't really care about winning cups. Of course they'll be delighted if it comes to that, but the first priority is producing players for the professional team (or for sale). Nobody REALLY cares about a youth championship anyway, and it's not worth sacrificing the physical or mental health of promising young players.
Also, the thing about futbol being omnipresent? 100% correct. It sucks for those of us without any talent or interest for it, but it's definitely a thing.
I’m from Argentina and moved young to the US. I don’t have experience in academies, but couldn’t agree more on everything else.
One of my culture shocks was that I couldn’t get any of my teammates from my soccer team to play pickup matches either after school or on weekends. It was insane to me that they only played on a structured setting. Also, our version of a birthday party for my entire childhood was a Saturday with choripanes (or patties if you’re in Buenos Aires) and playing soccer from noon to dusk.
The coaches also focused much more on technical things rather than tactical understanding. Eg when my dad tried explaining “triangles” to my 10-year old team no one understood. That’s basic knowledge even to 8-year olds in Argentina. This is 100% due to watching vs not watching pro football. Eg after a tournament the USNT was playing and the organizers set up a tent with TVs. My only teammates who stayed to watch were a Brit and a Colombian. None of the Americans stayed to watch their own national team with their own football teammates. In Arg everything stops. School, offices, etc.
It was also much rougher in Argentina bc in these pickup games you’ll play with friends/family/neighbors and they don’t go easy on you just bc you’re younger or smaller. Meanwhile, in the structured settings in the US, referees stop everything and even wrongly many times. I remember many times just shielding the ball and having fouls called on my bc another kid slammed into me and bounced back lol
Thank you. Great info
@@CoachRorySoccer I just remembered about a really fun game we used to play with my friends and family based around headers that you might implement to teach heading. All you need is a small size 3-type ball (if you go back to cordoba get a couple of “pulpo”) and 4 cones or shirts.
The core of the game is to score with a header into the other team’s goal: that’s 1 point.
You can also pass to your teammate and back until someone scores (always with headers): if you score that’s 1 point for each pass+1 for the goal (eg I head it towards my partner who scores: 2 points). (We call it a “cadenita”, or little chain).
There’re two situations where you can play with your feet: 1) If you save it with your chest you can play with your feet, pass to your teammate and/or score: that’s 2 points (this one’s an “escapadita”, or little getaway).
And 2) If the other team saves it but rebounds back to you you can play with your feet and score: that’s 1 point (this one’s a “rebote”, or rebound).
@@LaBandaRoja9 nice!!
@@CoachRorySoccer btw It’s called “cabeza” but I couldn’t find any videos online, they’re all from academy-type exercises. I hope the description was enough. I really enjoyed your video covering your experience in arg vs the US. You should play this with your kids and I’m sure your family in cordoba will love to play when you go back. That’s where it’s from. Ps if you have sand like a volleyball court or a beach nearby it’s the best place to play
I have lived in Peru and I have traveled the world to Futbol countries like Germany, Italy, France, and England. I actually agree with your assessment of how things are done in the two countries. This is why I take my son to the park and we have free play and pickup games often against older players. My son is still only 6 years old but has been playing U9 Academy and is currently playing against U10 teams in indoor. Free play against other ages is important as they develop better decision making skills and learn to improvise in tough situations.
oh that kid is gonna destroy the other poor kids of his age onces he start playing hahahha
6 is a bit small to play against adults though. my kid is 9 and i take him a bit to adult games, but i think 11 or above is better.
it is also good to let kids play down to lesser kids so that they can get in a lot of reps in low pressure. this way they can do movements that they may not try against older kids.
I am the Rec Director of a Club in Florida. We have just under 1000 players ages 4 thru 19. Our Rec side costs right at $200 for the entire year! Our comp. side costs maybe double that provided they get zero sponsorships. My own personal U13 team secured enough sponsorships in which we ended up paying $0.
I only say that because I've always heard it's free in the "rest of the world". Then when I got asking direct questions to some coaches from Man. United they informed me that "free" really meant a couple of hundred dollars for uniforms and ref fees.
So it is possible to have a successful club in USA for what the rest of the world is calling "free". We do this because all of our Board of Directors and Coaches are all 100% volunteers! We do fall under the FYSA and USYS btw.
Fantastic
You have summarized what soccer is in my country, good video and that it is a way of life, probably the first toy we have in our life is a soccer ball
Thank you!
Es increíble pero cierto, cuando decías eso de "en cualquier casa hay una pelotas dando vueltas o simplemente en el suelo". Uno estando acá ni lo percibe, es una obligación tácita la cual se acepta y es lo que nos diferencia. Como sudamericanos, todos somos apasionados por este hermoso deporte pero siento que argentina sobre pasa ese umbral (puede que hable desde la nostalgia y el nacionalismo). Haciendo memoria, recuerdo ir al colegio a las 7:30 am, jugar con una pelotita de tenis o una bolita de cinta en el patio con mí hermano, jugar en los recreos y en gimnasia, en cumpleaños, vacaciones, plazas, días de lluvia, sol, en la calle usando piedras de arco. Pero lo mejor es que uno nunca deja de jugar, ahora de adulto tengo 4 grupos de fútbol, los amigos del barrio, los que nos conocemos de jardin, el fútbol mixto, los del laburo y seguro te invitan a un f5 si falta uno, es un círculo vicioso al que cuesta negarse.
jugar a la pelota en la calle abajo de la lluvia en verano es uno de los recuerdos mas hermosos y preciados de mi infancia. me crie en Avellaneda y ahora vivo en la patagonia. todavia extraño esos veranos. 😄
Great video! I spent a few years living in Argentina and can attest to soccer being a way of life there. There are dirt lots with makeshift goals in every neighborhood and kids just playing constantly. Also another difference is that kids in the US can get college scholarships for soccer whereas that is not part of the pathway there which might explai why parents are more willing to spend on youth soccer with hopes of it paying off someday.
Good point!
Im Argentinian but i live in England (for the last 20 years or so , my kid was born here too). I agree that for us football is a constant thing (even tho it wasn't my main sport) i was juggling the ball all day as a kid , playing outside,inside, at school everywhere . I played basketball at a good level and we would warm up by sometimes playing football. In England i see this quite a lot as well , for example I've literally just dropped my kid to nursery , it's misty and cold outside , but kids were playing football on the parks (at 08am before school) , so kids are quite invested here and it is a cultural thing . But at home (argentina) it's at a different level it's not even a thing you think about anymore , you just do it.
comebol y uefa
Thank you so much for this! Great video. Speaks volumes about how our adult driven, pay to play system is out of whack.
Unfortunately so true.
Hi Rory, just discovered your channel through this video, it's very interesting. I'm from Argentina, and I want to add something to your final note on the facilities. Much of it depends on the club's economy, which in turn depends on the general economy, which hasn't been good for some time. This means that even within first division clubs there may be disparity in infrastructure, with the biggest having the best training grounds (for youth and senior teams) and the smaller clubs not always being able to upgrade them regularly. Also, clubs here are civil associations, not for profit entities, and they host many sports and social activities bringing local communities together, so even if football is the main activity for the club (both in member interest and in income) they will often have more infrastructure to maintain than just the football pitches. Anyway, I enjoyed seeing a different take on how youth football works here and how it compares to the US, so keep up the good work!
Thank you!!
Now, that you mention it, in Mexico, there is no such thing as professional clubs as you say, even if the official name of the team says CLUB, or AC. They are soccer organizations, for sure, but they are for profit and don't include other sports, and many clubs are sold and purchased or change owners.
El fútbol en nuestro pais se da de manera natural donde los niños JUEGAN con sus amigos de bariio dasafiandose con otros del barrio y asi sucesivamente nace la competencia natural y si le sumas que juegan en la calle o plaza o descanpado. Eso hace que seamos unicos junto con Brasil en ser distintos a todo el mundo
Eu sou do brasil e acho isso. O futebol faz parte de nossas vidas desde criancas. Mas me parece que isso esta diminuindo no brasil.
O que vejo inclusive como parte do declinio do brasil nos ultimos anos eh uma queda da cultura do futebol. Obvio que a cultura do futebol ainda eh enorme no brasil, mas me parece um pouco menor do que antes. Posso estar enganado, mas me parece que a cultura do futebol no brasil esta mais fraca que a 30 anos atras. Hoje estou na argentina ja a algumas semanas visitando, e vejo o futebol aqui mais forte do que nunca. Algo que me parece menor no brasil. Claro tambem que ha a vitoria recente da argentina, mas me lembro bem mesmo apos 2002 no brasil nao me parece que foi de grande ajuda.
Seamos? 😂 no tenes cara de ni siquiera saber para una pelota 😂
Hi, Belgrano is a somewhat poor club from first division, but managed to make players like "cuti"romero, a world champion.
in the richest clubs the level of infrastructure is higher.
and the parents, well, lets say u had a GOOD experience lol, we are passionate and sometimes violent with futbol
i liked your video, nice work
Thanks!
Fantastic information for families learning the U.S. soccer landscape and want to give their kids’ passion as many opportunities as possible.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I think i disagree on the parity of technical skills. From the US youth games I've watched, teams are unable to string together more than 2 passes before losing possesion, often times due of poor technical skills. Agree 100% that many other countries have youth who are far more clued into movement and speed of play. I have distinct memories watching a youth game in spain and being blown away by their passing. I hate stopping by a US youth practice and seeing all the kids standing around for 10-15minutes only to do some stupid structed drill that doesn't generate many touches or active movement. One solution ive envisioned is organized pickup play twice a week to fill in the days kids arent with their formal clubs - lots of gameplay, different teammates, different skill levels, good cheap fun and socialization to carry over into their formal clubs/leagues
I believe he said at the highest levels of the game, not on average. Big difference.
The problem is a lot of rec leagues where the parents coach but the parents don't have soccer experience. But kudos to them because its hard to find volunteers.
Well I'm from Cordoba but I've lived in Australia for 50 years. I'm also a fan of Belgrano having lived south of the stadium, when I lived there as a young boy. Thanks for the video.
Good review on youth Argie Futbol. If I may, clubs are associations in our country. They have a social role trying to keep kids out of the streets. And it’s a way out economically for the few families that make it.
Great point.
Aimar said it well, when you are a kid you need to be unorganized so that way you develop the basics of football by yourself. After that you organize them to create professionalism in the player
It’s an interesting difference to the way it’s done in the states.
growing up in argentina i remember playing football every day for hours with my neighbors at parks and sidewalks, using shoes or jackets to mark the goals. the youngest in the group was 5, i was 7 and the oldest was 15.
we also went to the public football field three blocks away and played mixed age matches with the kids there. every match felt like a copa libertadores final.
i was nowhere as good to play at club level and was chubby so they sent me as a goalie (lol) and i had to endure full power shots from 15 year olds all the time. i was still bad but playing with older people made me improve a lot and get accustomed to physical play.
later in life, when i was like 14 me and my friends played with a group of adults whose ages went from 20 to 70 and it was so much fun.
i don't know if it's a common thing in other countries, but here you can find a bunch of kids playing at any park and ask them to play, even if you don't know them. i made a couple of friends/playmates by doing that.
Thank you!!
This is a very interesting video, I have 2010 son that plays MLS Next and have seen some players from other ages get picked by MLS first teams and thats very hopeful for us because it takes a big sacrifice for the parents to travel and economically wise but at the end is all for the love of our children and soccer, my son was recently invited to a U.S. soccer boys talent ID . We feel very proud of him ❤⚽️
Great stuff. I love watching the different cultures and approaches. As with everything else, the more we learn from others, the better
💯 thanks!
Coach, try to get your team to take part of a tournament in South America, there, if the kids have potential they will get offered a spot in one of the local teams..we had a team from Canada attend the Punta Cup a few years back and a few kids were identified, they got a spot in the academy team of Nacional of Uruguay, some stayed and made it to first division, got sold to other teams, played in Mexico 1st division, made it to MLS, and actually a couple made it to Canada’s National team…all of them said that without the South American Futbol experience they would not have made it…we have to export our youth players to gain the necessary exposure and experience in order to make us competitive at the world stage.
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Nice insight! A cultural thing of ours Is that we are taught from childhood to control our 'passion' and when release it. That Is why we can use a high passionate amount of energy and not be especially agresive.
Great video..as an argentinian that played there I 100% agreed with you...I would add another difference, those youth academies have at least 3 teams for each age group with at least 25 players and they are moving players from the "1st" to the "3er" team constantly according to their performance every week, this way you put all players at same level of competition. In the other hand, here in USA it is very hard to find academies that do that..."getting married" with players that do no perform like use to do years ago, making harder for the rest of the players.
Great point. Thank you.
Goto an indoor place in US. There’s 2 games. On the small field is mostly immigrant types who pass, move and try all sorts of crazy stuff. On the larger field is upper middle class types who physical and fit, run set plays coached by a former baseball player. Coaches controlling the game seems unique to American sports. It seems you noticed that with the Argentine parents.
Es tan díficil de explicar. Muchas veces no tenemos nada mas que esto, el Futbol. No se como llegué acá. No sé tampoco porque estoy llorando. Acá el fútbol es todo. Un sentimiento.
lloraste porque pulsan ese boton que tanto nos emociona que es el futbol, pobre aquel que no le gusta el futbol y no pudo ser parte de un equipo...
Lo que pasa es que aquí en Argentina el fútbol es parte de la cultura ..es como tomar mate todos los días. .no importa que seas rico o pobre..esta ahí siempre. y es algo natural para nosotros ..no así en EEUU...que en su concepto de deporte .lo ven del lado esquemático y físico .. y no le ven el lado divertido y mágico como concebimos a este gran juego..!
@@marceloduranarg No tuvo vida.
@@juliof9457 Escuche que muchos periodistas extranjeros dijeron "Que bueno que salieron campones del mundo ellos que son tan pobres". No tiene nada que ver!.Asi estuvieramos todos nadando todos en la abundancia lo festejaríamos igual, porque el fútbol es parte de lo que somos.
Cringe al más alto nivel .
You nail it. I'm an Argentinian living in The US since 2001. I played soccer all my life, but when I went to visit my family after long years, it was a shock to experience that physicality again, and most important, space and movement. Looking back at my own playing, I lacked good intruction about space and movement, many times kids are on their own, but breath soccer and that overcomes a lot problems for many.
Es FÚTBOL NO SOCCER PAPAAAA
Argentina youth players have the attitude of an Alpha Male, if you not have that you never be great, thats why you notice the expression and aggression of his bodies and the knowledge of the field and position all this combined with passion, fun and repect for his team mates, create uniques and sensationals football players.
Hey! An Argentine here, I liked your analysis of the style of play and tactical qualities because it has been said for a long time that the virtue of the Argentine football player is his technique. That's why I very much agree with you, the technique of the Argentine football player is no longer world-class (mainly due to the lack of physical qualities, which limits technical expression).
However, we still maintain such a strong connection with football that it explains a lot of the high level of footballers we have. I have no doubt that we are the country where culturally we breathe football the most (even more than Brazil or England).
Agreed.
Good to have an outside perspective to our youth system. In my opinion , is the best we have in the country
I loved my time in Argentina!
You should come to Germany once. 😊 when I was young - now I’m in the mid 50s - I used to play soccer as well all day long. As often as possible. Club membership is less than 100€ per year, so basically you only need your own shoes and training sportswear.
In Germany parents voluntarily support the club and of course us youth coaches we do that as well for free.
My grandmother was born in Stuttgart. Definitely want to come to Germany. Planning Barcelona in March perhaps.
@@CoachRorySoccerfunny. I’m from Stuttgart 😊
Great insight into another culture through the youth soccer lens.
From a small Cordoba town here. I played football here at even lower division club until 21, I can attest that is really tough. We developed a certain physical condition and when you are a defender you can see that even smaller guys know how to use the body to move bigger guys. Nowadays there's better training and better assessments on nutritional issues we didn't have 15 years ago
ya 1 año de la gloria eterna, aguante messi y argentina!!!
This was super interesting, I'd like to hear more. I've always wondered what other countries do as far as youth development goes.
Football is part of our culture here since the late 19th century, and we've been a powerhouse since then. The British brought football here, but shortly after we started giving the game our own "spin" if you like, and that's why Argentine football is vastly different from British football. We play an elegant football, less structured, less formal, less "robotized". Although we have some academies here, they are by no means as prominent as in other countries, because kids here learn more about football playing in the streets or in "plazas" (playgrounds repurposed as makeshift football pitches) that they could EVER learn at academies, which in general tend to face kids in the same age range, which does not help with their development. Here in Argentina, you can see kids from 7-8 years old, playing against older kids and even teenagers. Yes, they get their butts kicked most of the times, but the experience they gain from that you can't buy it or learn it in ANY academy. And on top of that, kids here learn from a very young age how to play rough, how to be cheeky, because they have to when they face older kids or teens, so that develops their minds faster regarding football. It's not a proven recipe by no means, but it has worked wonders for us, not only at club level, but as you already know, at national teams level.
Cheers from Buenos Aires!
Thank you for sharing!
What about in Mexico - do the kids play as much as in Argentina? It seems not
@@nofurtherwest3474 I've been reading stuff about Mexico and they have a pretty big problem with kids there.
According to an article form 2017: 'The vast majority of children in Mexico do not play sports. Several studies point out that physical activity is not a priority for children in the country. Mexico ranks first in the world in childhood obesity. Several studies by public institutions support the precarious state of children's health in Mexico. The diagnosis of the S269 Physical Culture and Sports Program, made by CONADE, found that the 12 to 19 years old age group uses only 1.41% of their free time to do sports or some physical exercise; this range is precisely the one with the highest percentage. The most recent National Health and Nutrition Survey, conducted in 2012 by the Ministry of Health, showed that 36.9% of boys and girls between 5 and 11 years of age suffer from weight problems: 19.5% are overweight and 17.4% obese.'
In Argentina in the other hand, 80% of children and adolescents do some kind of sport or physical activity on a regular basis outside of school physical education classes. Primary school-age children (6 to 12 years old) are more likely to practice than secondary school-age children (13 to 17 years old).
The frequency of weekly practice is sustained among those who practice sport and physical activity: two (30.7%) and three (35.4%) times a week are the most common frequencies, and there are also many more who practice four or more times a week (24.7%) than those who practice only once a week.
The general average of sport and physical activity practice is 3 hours and 40 minutes per week.
@@nofurtherwest3474creo que en México tienen que pagar para entrar en las academias igual que en Estados Unidos, lo que limita que niños sin recursos económicos puedan llegar al fútbol profesional aunque tengan el talento necesario.
I found this video very insightful, especially as a parent facing challenges with my child's involvement in competitive soccer in the United States. My 9-year-old son excels in soccer, but I am overwhelmed by the club politics and the behavior of other parents. I'm uncertain about the best way to ensure he's in a nurturing environment for the long term. Is it common to interview other clubs or to inquire with our current club about their plans for improvements next year? The prospect of enduring another year of this situation is daunting, and I'm concerned about being committed to a club for an entire year
Yes I would absolutely do your due diligence on picking a club/team. It’s so tough for parents. I’d be happy to help if you wanted to email me directly. coachrorysoccer@gmail.com
Peruvian here living in the US for a long time, I played soccer in the streets where there are no rules (or sometimes in very heated local leagues), your game speaks for you and your willingness to stand your ground. Going to a soccer plex or to an academy was a luxury completely inimaginable back in my day (heck, there were none, but nowadays there are soccer camps managed by former soccer players in the old country. I still play at my age and playing better than ever, is like my skills get more honed as I get older.
Although the US has made a lot of progress from the early MLS days (back in 1996 where the level was very amateur to say the least), I still see the lack of that little "something" in some players, it is hard to define but I would say is the instincts and awareness that only pure street soccer gives you. Granted, here in the US we have a great athletic base and that helps tremendously but because the great majority are the product of soccer camps, soccerplexes, youth coaches which is well structured, the street factor (or potrero as is known in Argentina) is not quite there yet, and that makes a difference when playing against South Americans or some Europeans. Nevertheless, I am confident the USMNT system will eventually develop more world class players in the near future.
Well...those differences make Argentina a powerhouse in football. All of the at least one time world champions countries have the same structures in one way or another. Thats why USA must develop a lot, not only in their youths but also change their mindset to became a serious promise in the near future.
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loco, que buena presentcion!!!Mi hijo de 14 esta como loco metido en "fulvo", y esta dando rapidos pasos de progreso. En el interin, yo no cuajava con el ambiente. me gusta verlo pasarla bien, reise, y es sierto lo que desis, fuera de la cacha hay un tanto de presion competitiva desde los padres. Thanks Cocach! what a way to explain it. Well done. thanks from Ohio.
At an early age in Argentina, children are more privileged to have fun playing soccer than to demand tactics and strategy from them.
Howdy, coach, an Argie here of Irish descent living in Cordoba city and a Belgrano team fan ! So it was nice to watch you wearing our beloved Light Blue jersey ! Mighty interesting vid. Best wishes and stay well.
Thank you!!
Ohhh que capo con la camiseta de Belgranooo, de ahí viene el gran Cuti Romero!
Thanks for this video, yeah we really breath futbol here, euros play for the glory, we play for the love and passion of this beautiful sport
Thank you!!
Hi coach!
Great video! I'm from Argentina but have been living in Ireland for 8 years now.
I was working as a coach until recently and fully agree with you on the physical and tactical aspects. I feel like the players here in Ireland (and I guess the same in the US) are a bit naive comparing to Argentineans, my guess is that is purely because of the play time. Only 2/3 hours a week training sessions compared to growing up playing the whole day, sometimes with older siblings or cousins who would beat you or try to take advantage.
Again, great video and now subcribed 😃
Thank you!
Great video man, i admire how you critized the youth football system at your own country, i'm so sorry it's like that, it should be promoted a lot more, you guys have a lot of potential and i've seen it.
Cheers from Argentina.
Thank you!
Hey from Argentina here. One of the last topic you touched, the tactical awareness one, is indeed from our culture. Playing football is more than a sport here and in similar football-crazed countries, it's a way to meet people, share something and even get something if you were born and raised in a poor neighbor, as someone else already said in the comments regarding "villas". Add to that the understanding of football roles is ingrained to everyone from a very young age and you have another huge factor why here we can move up a step and focus on either other aspects of the game or refine what a child already know from their background. Great video and cheers coach!
PS. Something that surprises me a lot is the ban on headers. While I do understand the health side, it sounds like bonkers not to teach them aerial plays until they're on the early teens (I guess?) when that's such an important part of the game, especially for set pieces. If there's some video I could sate my curiosity with in this aspect, I'm all ears.
The headers have to do with concussion concerns. Not sure the data behind it if there is any. Thanks for sharing!
As a child growing up in Haiti. I was a big fan of the Argentina NT. I always liked the aggression in their game. This was something very special and unique to Argentina. I always wondered how they could just run non-stop like that to get the ball compared to other teams. Uruguay is the only team that even come close.
Can you please shed some light to that? Can you tell us why?
Btw, you look like Scaloni.
Thanks! I get that a lot😂
You also look like the actor Luke Wilson, brother if Owen Wilson, and other brother.
Awesome video! Im from buenos aires.
We also had many games based on football. Like the "25" or "football tenis". When i was a kid this were the games that we played on the street or elsewhere, and that helps a lot in the control of the Ball.
Nice. Thanks for commenting!
Letting young players just play a 6v6 for one hour is how you get talented creative players, if you coach them military style is how you get the europeam robots that their only 1v1 skill is speed
Wasn’t being critical just my observations.
Exactly that is the biggest difference. My family is all from Argentina but I have lived and played my whole life in high level US soccer. The biggest difference I’ve noticed is that the US style that coaches force upon us is not fun and is not football. El “toco y me voy” doesn’t exist. Players are discouraged from being skillful and creative, instead being taught to play a boring, structured, simple style of football with no creativity from an early age. This kills creativity. The beauty is in Argentina young players are left to discover by themselves when to play quickly and when to hold the ball, when to be creative and when to play safe. This is football. Football is an art of creativity and expression. From my experience, US turns it into a rigid, uninspiring sport. It’s almost a completely different game from what is played in countries like Argentina.
I would like to add that I hate the pay to play system in the US and find we miss out on good talent because of it. I also hate the header rule as it doesn't really acually protect kids from getting hit in the head with the ball and the science doesn't back the claim that it causes concussion. The only reason the rule exists is because some Karen decide to sue the US Soccer Federation about 7 years ago with no real basis for it.
Header rule ? Wtf
@@claudiovallone9217ningun chico menor de 12 puede cabecear en Usa. Te cobran tiro libre como si fuera mano.
No kid u12 can head the ball in U.S Soccer. It's called as it was a handball.
@@nicolassmietniansky9190 uff q demencia
@@claudiovallone9217 nos mudamos a Usa cuando mi nene tenia 8. No lo podiamos entender. Ademas es mas peligroso porque cuando la pelota viene de aire levantan las piernas y tiran unas patadas tipo Karate que cada tanto a alguno le dan en el pecho
@@nicolassmietniansky9190 Eso es peor...por que una patada en el pecho te puede causar un paro cardíaco. Son demasiados estrictos en cuanto a la salud, no entiendo por qué entonces tienen tanta OBESIDAD en su población, inclusive en NIÑOS.
I’m a teacher in Las Vegas and volunteer to coach elementary soccer (it’s not high level for perspective). What I have noticed is that the Mexican/Latino kids (we’re in the Southwest) are soccer-mad. Can’t get them off the field they love it so much. I think it’s starts at home with dad, then environment (friends) and then what they see on TV. What i like about them is that they prefer to go to a field and play rather than video games!
yeah, but they are still pretty bad at it. Mexicans are soccer crazy, but they truly suck, just like all central america. pretty much the only good ones in america are Argentina, Brasil and Uruguay. except for colombia or ecuador, maybe, everyone else is pretty horrible at the sport
Lo mexicanos son malisimos jugando al fútbol. .pienso que los Estadounidenses están ahora a un nivel más alto.en éste juego.
I have lived in argentina for 6 years, my niece went to junior soccer for a time and they teach a lot how to move without a ball, rotation where to touch to open teammates. But aren't aggressive about it
Also they make a soccer pitches in every space possible and play in it even if its a super casual thing.
The last point kills me! Here in Victoria BC, Canadá- clubs spend 600k dollars on a turf field; but don’t invest in full time staff to create and execute proper soccer programs.
If you wanna see madness at the sides, next time try to check the "papi fútbol" scene in Buenos Aires. Small neighborhood clubs playing something similar to Futsal, where most of our stars emerged from. Parents go crazy there.
Nice video.
Thanks! I’ll check it out.
@@CoachRorySoccer Quick story about the differences on physicality.
The son of someone I know went to River Plate for a tryout. His family is maybe middle/upper class.
Right off the bat he gets tackled by another 11 year old and while still on the ground, the tackler gets to his face and says:
"You do this for fun, I'm here to feed my family. Go home".
@@MarianoRodriguez wow! I believe it.
Yes we live this sport all of our lifes here in Argentina.
But our players usually dont learn how to play in Clubs or Academys.
All over the country we have some plain terrain (called "potrero"... A term similar to a grass covered terrain in which horses are kept)
And we play on that "potrero" since we are able to walk, everyday, almost all of the day during at least the first 10/15 years of our lifes.
Then when we got like... 6 years, our parents usually also takes us to academy/clubs.
But our classic south american style and skills are develop in those "potreros" during our childhood.
In this "potreros" we play with almost no rules, i mean, no referee so faults and other game interruptions must be really explicit. Time is not taked in account and the game ends when we got tired or when our parents call us for dinner, when this happens, we call the "Gol gana" rule (first score wins) no matter the actual score of the match hehe.
Futbol is not just a sport for us. Is a way of living. Im 40 yo, played it since i had 3y, as soon as i was able to walk. Im still playing it on saturdays and tuesdays even at my 40s.
My father played it until his 60s and had to quit it because of his many knee lessons... If not, he could play it until his last day (Some of his friends, actually died playing from heart attack).
I cant imagine how my life will be the day that i cant play it anymore. That would be the most painful sensation. We then try to replace it with lesser impact sport such as ride a bike, but its never the same. Nothing can fill that void. Thats how we feel Futbol (or soccer as you call it)
Thanks
One thing I would add about the facilities is that the state of the pitch plays a huge role on how the players get used to carry the ball. As many pitches are in bad state, with holes, uneven surfaces and big patches of dirt instead of grass, they have to learn to dribble in a way that the ball doesn't go too far away from the feet because it increases the chances of loosing it. In my opinion this is very beneficial as kids from early age have to adapt to this circumstances, and when they grow up and get to play in better pitches, they will dribble better as they learned how to do it in a much more difficult ground.
Small clubs can also make money for player developement rights (derechos de formación) in some cases. If a player is transfered, former clubs can have benefits
I completely agree with you with the last part, our advantages are mostly related to understanding the game, such as knowing how to place ourselves on pitch according to the situation and knowing also how to use our body without making a fault or even making a foul when it's necessary but not getting a card for it.
As an argentine I do see this huge difference when I watch feminine football, because we men tend to play football since literally can stand up with our dad and brothers, while women tend to start playing football lately as teen agers, besides, for cultural reasons as you probably know being a son of argentines, men are more into football than women are. These things cause a lot of difference on how we do play the game, apart from our technical skills. This is why Argentina is literally the world champion in masculine football and just a weak national team who can't even win a game in the group stage in feminine football. Of course there are some other topics who explin this, but I think the origin of the abysmal difference between argentine men and women in football is this.
Totally agree
It is true that physical play is very important in men's soccer
But when I played amateur soccer as defensive midfielder, I did not run a lot and I did not tackle a lot. I based my play by anticipating where the ball was going to go and most of the time I intercepted the ball without committing fouls. In fact I only had less than 10 sent offs (direct red cards) in my 20 years playing amateur soccer, since I was 8 to 28 years old.
Exactly my friend.
In a comment above I described that when I was an amateur player as defensive midfielder, I did not run much and I did not tackle a lot. Most of the time I just anticipated the ball without committing fouls.
For this to happen, like you said, it is fundamental to have a broad vision of the field, the positions of your opponents and the positions of your teammates, and also detecting quickly the best rival players (which in amateur soccer most players are unknown at first) and their strong technical virtues and their possible weak points.
Whoa, congratulations. What a conciseness as well. Few times I have come across a such well thought comparison of U teams across countries. Mostly what I hear is the cultural difference which despite true it comes out as too shallow. Having been raised in Argentina, lived in the US for 10 yrs, in the UK for 8 years and Portugal for 3 years, the points you make are spot on in the comparison of US vs Arg. I would say comparatively that UK tends to be somehow in the middle where there is for example active scouting though it will come from the clubs side rather than individuals being actively worried about bringing these kids to the clubs and membership costs tend to be quite low in the UK. In Portugal the same thing exists but they are closer to the Argentine model. Though probably not exactly the same.
On the cultural side of the sport in Argentina, the tactical view is something that will stand out because football tactics are a common topic while watching football matches and parents are quite well educated on football tactics so it comes naturally so kids will know what to do and where to stand and that is considered common knowledge for anyone interested in the sport. I think that is a high bar for the US to overcome in the short term.
Second aspect of the physicality is also cultural, there is a desire to win which is translated into 'garra', 'huevos' which basically summarises the desire to win and that when even in disadvantage putting the max amount of effort and will to fight in any ball makes a difference in the result. In a sport so stochastic/unpredictable as football any one play can define a win or a loss so in the end that 'garra' is corresponded with experience.
Finally the very interesting point you make about the 0 cost of the sport is that for the clubs this is a very long term investment looking 15 years ahead. Some of the money collected from a transfer can easily cover the costs of U football. Obviously the cost of the trainers, support staff and facilities in general in Argentina is a fraction of what it is in the US but the prices of the transfers are mostly comparable therefore the return on investment in U football is a lot higher in Argentina than it is in the US.
Great points!
I agree that watching soccer is very important along with playing it.
Interesting observation regarding the not much technical level difference between Argentinian, and American youths.
I would say my two sons are higher level technical players and might not represent the average. That being said it was academy level in Argentina.
US citizen here with 2 adolescent boys that grew up in Argentina and Uruguay. Great video and insights. Some of your observations were spot on, and some were I think skewed by the age of your kids and where they went to the soccer camp. 1) as the kids get older and games get more competitive, parents are absolutely more vocal with their sideline comments and criticism of the refs. The games you saw were also camp vs camp and not part of a regular season, therefore less competitive. 2) Many clubs are still pay to play at younger ages (< U15), but the payments are very affordable and more just to subsidize the costs. This often happens for private (non-league) teams that also help with player development. As an example, we pay perhaps $50-75/month for one player. These payments, obviously, go away if the player is good enough and joins the youth club of a major team. But it’s important to note that it’s not uncommon for major league players to get their start in these smaller, private league youth teams. 3) Soccer is absolutely part of life here. But I don’t think viewers who have not lived in S. America will understand how much so. Birthday gifts are soccer balls and equipment. Soccer is played indoors, outdoors, in every bit of free time, at birthday parties. 2-3, sometimes more games per week. Kids knowing when major league games in their country (as well as the UK, Spain, Italy, etc) are scheduled and making time to watch them. On rainy days and in between real play, playing FIFA with a gaming console and/or games with fantasy leagues. Imagine your child only not thinking about soccer when they are sleeping. 4) because of the points made above, even if some kids might not love soccer, or be that good at it, it’s a social tool to integrate with other kids. So those that don’t play will support their friends. Those that don’t play well will still practice and get good enough to contribute and play with their friends in formal youth league games. Our group of fathers also is very supportive and also will try to play at least one father-son game per year, every year. (Though at U14 now, we only managed a tie this year on a full 11 player field.)
Fantastic points! Thank you!
Great review. I'm from Argentina and moved to LA 8 years ago.
Of course, soccer is a lifestyle in Argentina. As a kid/young adult, I used to play literally every day on any little piece of grass we had.
I never went to any club or anything; it was just my group of friends getting together on the street and inviting “the owner of the ball” to come. Lol!
That’s what coaches in Arg don’t want to lose by giving too much technicalities to the kids.
In the US, It’s hard to get that level of passion when the sport is not as well known as basketball or football.
So I think the organization and a good team structure (i.e. budget, fields, coaches, etc) to support the kids that like to play is an asset in this country.
I enjoyed your review! Thanks!
I hope you enjoyed some good Fernet in Cordoba!
Glad you had a nice experience here, happy to have you, Coach. I think that you will find very interesting any interview you can find on Pablo Aimar, former Argentina star player and now part of the National Team coach staff (like a Coach Beard to Coach Lasso 😅). He also coaches the U20 Team, and he’s very clear and great to listen to. Hope this helps.
Thank you! Will look for those.
Thanks, excelent video. I am from Argentina. Football is part of the culture like you said. I am 30 years old, and most people in that age or even 40 years old play regulary with friends once at week in a small field 5 vs 5.
So your son or the kids watch how important it sport is because adult play it a lot.
And that also true in video games. most people have a play station just for play football in it.
a fellow cordobés here and also a belgrano fan hahaha i happen to stumble at this video and i think it's very intresting to hear the opinion of a foreigner about our football thank you
Thank you!!
What’s up coach! Played on both sides of the spectrum here. Very unbiased video, appreciate you for that.
Hello Coach. I have a kid that played in one of the games you attended in Córdoba. I would like to share my view on what I believe surprised you the most. The parent's behavior of the pitch.
My understanding from personal experience is that it has to do with a combination of different things. You were at a “friendly match” between two top-tier teams that not only kids don't have to pay to play, they actually need to be selected to play. Clubs invest money in their academies and expect to see a return on that investment over time.
One of the key factors that clubs consider when taking a player is the family environment, so you know that your behavior as a parent will reflect on the chances that your kid has to stay on the team. I know of cases in which a kid who was at the same level of play as the others in the team has been asked to leave the club due to the father's or mother's conduct off the pitch.
As the tier level of the team that your kid plays lowers, the good behaviors of the parents diminish as well. I believe it has a lot to do with your expectations, to see your kid's team win a game is more important than to not interfere with your kid reaching his highest potential.
Wow! Thank you for that info! Great stuff.
I guess that the parents there behave better because they actually understand the game.
You nailed it..nowadays i am in Canada but i grow up in Africa and i was playing a sport other than soccer in matter of fact i ended up playing in tier 2 men’s league when i was in high school. And I decided to stop because of the university.
The irony is if you asked my dad what was your son favourite sport he will tell you most probably soccer compare this to me now spending my evenings driving around the city taking my two kids to practices games etc and watching the things you perfectly described.
Thanks for the insight!
Thank you for your videos and your sincerity.