major facts bro, tds and tdx never copied from each other. all the ideas from both games are from bloons td but the fans are just too slow to understand that
Very unique, doesnt look like some other games helicopter and helicopter paths…… Edit: not hating on this new rework im lvl 300 in tds and i really like it
@@Cake3-iz8olits targetting ruined its spot in the meta, but now the patrol range system completely fixed that issue that prevented pursuit from being called "amazing" it is now amazing
Definitely a huge upgrade from the old one, Yes the placement limit has been reduced to 5, but DPS wise(Top path) has more than half the DPS of what old Pursuit have, so we can assume that 1 Reworked Pursuit is stonger than 2 old Pursuits. Making the lower placement limit understandable. Plus It's gonna be so easy to micro
I'ma change this meme comment to smt more useful: With further inspection, the blue circle is where the pursuit can move, while the white circle is the pursuit's actual range. The reason on why it didn't target the aggro enemy ( 5:14 ) is because it was outside it's white range, making it "out of range"
People saying “oh they copied (insert tower defense game with multiple path towers)” no they didn’t. They were inspired. Tower defense games are hard to be fully original. They saw that other td games have multiple paths and said hey let’s put that in our game. If they copied it then it would be the exact same thing like ui, what it looks like, and maybe even the stats. So they didn’t copy.
tbh tdx a game thats been out for about a year now has had their heli in the game for a bit now and no only is it multi path both towers look very similar.. like unironically similar
@@owogotem9306because the models from both games are based on real life attack helicopters. Same thing with the tank from the military base and armored factory
everyone hated old militant (not john) cuz of ammo now every good tower has ammo (accel overcharge is smth like ammo) and no one says anything about it
Whenever an update comes out I always wait for you to upload because you give a simple explanation of the towers and make it understandable as well as having a genuine reaction to it. ❤️
"oh they copied ____ with multi path" heck no, bloons is the first tower defense game to have multi path and its heen existing long before roblox even popular
Dear everyone, Please just stop arguing about tds and Tdx, John and below are on good terms, they dont care so we shouldn’t, we shouldn’t argue about these games when we have way worse on Roblox.
"they copied tdx" kinda, yes, could have made the heli's look different but...its a general concept, its not copying, need ways to make towers good anyway.
I still fail to understand why they've decided to make a level 100 tower outclass Engi, Gatling, and Accelerator, all 3 of which are towers that take a lot longer to get, and by that logic should be stronger (y'know, that's how simulator games work)
Reworked pursuit is a really good and unique tower, a good prize for getting to lvl 100 and it makes ez the pursuit macro because you dont have to just use the ability and place it in other place (tbh is my new 2nd favourite tower)
Idk why tdx and tds fans are still arguing, John already said Below and him were on good terms. Also in the discord he said tds wasn't copying their helicopter
Idea: rework ace with same mechanics. Bottom 5th lvl will be the northrop b-2 spirit Top 5th lvl will be the A-10 warthog Bottom will get a passive ability While top gets an active ability
" tds is copying tdx- " look , i was there too thinking that , but ever since john and below meet irl they have been talking to eachother and giving eachother ideas... tds plz dont add double paths to the gam again inm finna kill ( use star code E )
True true but if it was almost nobody would play the update because mostly everyone doesn’t have swarmer and it probably be for robux to if you want to get it and people will say it’s another cash grab update
They will slowly rework the old event tower if it's not good. I think they won't rework the event tower consecutively, but they will probably take a break and then rework it, which will take a long time.
There is no way it could stay flying with that massive Gatling gun in the front like it is a third of the the size of the total heli. This makes no senses 🗿
So if we want to get the best out of pursuit do we need to get both paths for the other pursuits so we can do single target and deal with hordes?Or do we just spam top path.
put bottom path on random target, you're wasting some splash targeting first enemy, that plus eletro shocker gives it significantly more dps than the single target version, but its less useful for bosses
id get 2 bottom path heils and 3 top path heils bc you can only place 5 heils so that i get good dps for bosses/enemys with higgh hp and good splash damage its best of both world and on last wave you can bottom path heils to place 2 more top path heils
@@EnragedPilgrimI feel like it would be tower blitz and tds.Yet again it’s stupid and immature to say they copy off each other.These kids need to grow up.
Bro i hate this people who just argue about TDS "Copying" TDX and Tower Blitz. You guys haven't heard about the word "inspired", plus John and Below is literally friends so they are probably borrowing each other's idea
Everyone’s going to say “they copied Tdx” well John and below are friends are alright with taking each others idea, I mean Tdx is also about to steal the crook boss from tds and tds stole the heli from Tdx, so there is no issue
Hey guys i just tested the ability glitch and it seems that it is pretty rare, i cant confirm that it is patched, but it didn't happen to me in the entire match
![How I beat the AWAKENED in TDX.. [FULL EVENT]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/E94DemxWbl8/mqdefault.jpg)
![How I beat the AWAKENED in TDX.. [FULL EVENT]](/img/tr.png)
Simply said, bro, this is a better accelerator that is easier to obtain and has crowd control and stun protection.
At this point anything is better than accel
@augustocelsobommweiler9083 I feel so bad for wasting my gems on it
@@augustocelsobommweiler9083it’s sad how true that statement is lol
Easier to get? 100lvl and 15k coins is easier than like 8 hc matches(hc is a joke with a good team and strat)
@@juiceboxbs9853most players are level 100 before this rework so they get to have it for free
john roblox himself had to explicitly state that tds and tdx fans should get along
and yet people ARE STILL COMPLAINING.
FR BRO
True they're also giving idea from their games
@@staticstyou mean from each other right?
@@Criticalerror-qg2md yea
major facts bro, tds and tdx never copied from each other. all the ideas from both games are from bloons td but the fans are just too slow to understand that
Gotta say probably one of the most unique towers in the game right now. Seems like the new meta too
Hello
@@MountainDewisthebest hi
@@chill2235 :D
Very unique, doesnt look like some other games helicopter and helicopter paths……
Edit: not hating on this new rework im lvl 300 in tds and i really like it
@@Harry-wx3nf it is just very unique on this game
Now pursuit being unlocked at level 100 is deserved
Pursuit has been great for a long time. It’s just more worth it now
Og pursuit when it released was the best tho
pursuit has been good for a while now what?
@@Cake3-iz8olit has been good but for me I didn’t want to grind that much now I do
@@Cake3-iz8olits targetting ruined its spot in the meta, but now the patrol range system completely fixed that issue that prevented pursuit from being called "amazing" it is now amazing
5:15 it’s not glitched, the aggro’d enemy is out of the Pursuits range so it attacks the first enemy other than the aggro’d one.
Was gonna comment this
You did @@Bird-retro-TDS
Definitely a huge upgrade from the old one,
Yes the placement limit has been reduced to 5, but DPS wise(Top path) has more than half the DPS of what old Pursuit have, so we can assume that 1 Reworked Pursuit is stonger than 2 old Pursuits. Making the lower placement limit understandable.
Plus It's gonna be so easy to micro
When they devs actually make a rework everyone likes with no bad opinions (except lvl 3)
Gatling nerf:
@@TheCanadianBoi rip Gatling gun
nah pursuit was nerfed with this rework
@@hombremario2_0are you high
No way @@hombremario2_0
I'ma change this meme comment to smt more useful:
With further inspection, the blue circle is where the pursuit can move, while the white circle is the pursuit's actual range. The reason on why it didn't target the aggro enemy ( 5:14 ) is because it was outside it's white range, making it "out of range"
People saying “oh they copied (insert tower defense game with multiple path towers)” no they didn’t. They were inspired. Tower defense games are hard to be fully original. They saw that other td games have multiple paths and said hey let’s put that in our game. If they copied it then it would be the exact same thing like ui, what it looks like, and maybe even the stats. So they didn’t copy.
Needs to be pinned
tbh tdx a game thats been out for about a year now has had their heli in the game for a bit now and no only is it multi path both towers look very similar.. like unironically similar
@@owogotem9306because the models from both games are based on real life attack helicopters. Same thing with the tank from the military base and armored factory
ELITE PINNED THIS GUY RN
@@owogotem9306 because, its based of the Comanche. John doesnt own that attack helicopter. TDX took its multi path from tower Blitz.
Im calling it. Medic rework next
NERD TIME!
lvl 1-3 ah-6 little bird
Top path: uh-1 huey, futuristic invictus with 30mm gatling cannon
Bottom path: Ah-64 apache, futuristic invictus
This is so underrated XDD (Thanks for the information 😈)
Little bird?
PUNISHMENT BIRD🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
bottom max is Rah-66 comanche
I just hate how big the gun on 5-X is. Not realistic to the Bell 360 Invictus at all.
i bet by 2026, every tower gonna have an ammo feature
the old militant treatment
everyone hated old militant (not john) cuz of ammo
now every good tower has ammo (accel overcharge is smth like ammo)
and no one says anything about it
Real
@@1goober-j2dyeah except this one is actually good
Personally, I'm just happy they made Commando stronger. Gave bro hidden detection and buffed his DPS by a chunk.
Whenever an update comes out I always wait for you to upload because you give a simple explanation of the towers and make it understandable as well as having a genuine reaction to it. ❤️
corso with stat updates:
I mean, elites, not the best player tbh. But yea he shows the tower in full
@@meghollows elites good, he’s an og player, but he’s kinda fallen off since frost invasion
"oh they copied ____ with multi path" heck no, bloons is the first tower defense game to have multi path and its heen existing long before roblox even popular
blud did not have to drop such a banger update during my exams
these paths are literally Apache Prime and Apache Commander (without helping helis) from BTD6
never let bro cook again
A tdx and tds collab would be fire. Imagine fighting eachothers bosses like eradicator mk2 and fallen king duo would be crazy ngl
Imagine void reaver and calamity
@@cherriemaesicad8830ahh hell nah
Grave digger and plague doctor fighting together would be cool. Or Juggernaut and G mini
@@JacobTheBlueLobster imagine Void reaver, calamity, and The Void from tower battles
The three big bad of three tower defense games
gatling gun got mass murdered this update
Dear everyone,
Please just stop arguing about tds and Tdx, John and below are on good terms, they dont care so we shouldn’t, we shouldn’t argue about these games when we have way worse on Roblox.
Yea, I was a TDS hater before the newest event there. Then I realized it ain't bad when we got toilet tower defence..
pursuit gonna be crazy in quad as the lowered placement for quad doesnt really effect it much as its normal placement is already so low
"they copied tdx" kinda, yes, could have made the heli's look different but...its a general concept, its not copying, need ways to make towers good anyway.
I do like how the ui pops out when hovering over the choice paths, I think all upgrades should do that, or at least be displayed openly like that
Oh hi btd5 heli :D
Also unpopular opinion: i actually like ammo mechanics for towers
Is no one gonna talk about how sky shredder is the same name as btd6 ace monkey t5 top path
I gonna
I mean yeah but at least one is a plane an the other a heli but still sus
shhhhh
Btd6 didnt invent the name sky shredder
@@Dirgoft-bn4km pretty sure it did
I love this rework but in all honesty they could’ve done some more unique models and colorings for each path
I still fail to understand why they've decided to make a level 100 tower outclass Engi, Gatling, and Accelerator, all 3 of which are towers that take a lot longer to get, and by that logic should be stronger (y'know, that's how simulator games work)
Honestly, yeah. This tower destroyed Fallen mode way too hard, I’m 100% sure it’s getting a nerf.
90% of tds players got accelerator by level 80 so no accelerator does not take longer to get than pursuit but the other 2 do
It doesn't outclass them that much but they did fumble with the inf Range because then you will never have enough balancing
Since they nerfed Gatling to the ground so much. They now need to make Gatling obtainable for level 150+ and cost only 20k - 25k
Reworked pursuit is a really good and unique tower, a good prize for getting to lvl 100 and it makes ez the pursuit macro because you dont have to just use the ability and place it in other place (tbh is my new 2nd favourite tower)
yeah yeah, cool rework but, its finally getting his first skin for like 4 years?
quest skin real real
5 years without a skin...
@@Hemegapro beat hardcore on infernal abyss 3 times to get the new pursuit skin!!!!!!!!!!
@@Exzequiel1203ALSO DEAL 1,0000000000 DAMAGE IN FALLEN MODE!!!!
W a rework for pursuit!!! 🐢🔥🔥
Two pursuits would be PERFECT for fallen necromancer
People keep saying 2 paths is stolen from tdx but dont forget other games like tower blitz or btd6 did that before them.
Even the helicopter Is the same as the TDX one, they could have used the Invictus.
Classic TDX fans complaining about a similar game mechanic shared in both games and many other games that came before TDX
Idk why tdx and tds fans are still arguing, John already said Below and him were on good terms.
Also in the discord he said tds wasn't copying their helicopter
@@Alpacapack1some tdx players isn't that dumb, i know its a concept for them, what id know tds now have mobster/crook boss and cowboy hybrid
@@Alpacapack1Tds has worse community (btw i like tds more than tdx so dont say that im trying to defend my game)
Pursuit would go absolutely hard in night 3 since you wouldn't need to micro it for the final boss.
Brawler was cracked for night 3
Idea: rework ace with same mechanics.
Bottom 5th lvl will be the northrop b-2 spirit
Top 5th lvl will be the
A-10 warthog
Bottom will get a passive ability
While top gets an active ability
Bro this is just a better acellerator with crowd control and stun protection and its easier to get (in my opinion)
How about stun immun and map wide range?
Tbh, tds copy's so much from TB and always has, might as well take phasers mechanic outright to make accel good.
finally I've been waiting for this so I can back into TDS, didn't know it would take THIS long.
So basically if you want more crowd control use the bottom path and more single target or more dps use top path
i like how the communities fight with each other when in reality the devs are friends
" tds is copying tdx- "
look , i was there too thinking that , but ever since john and below meet irl they have been talking to eachother and giving eachother ideas...
tds plz dont add double paths to the gam again inm finna kill ( use star code E )
pursuit is a really decent tower, its also really cool to be the first one to have 2 paths you can max out.
Reworking everything 0_0
Hardcore soon?
Hopefully
Molten is coming not hardcore
@@RazellMbro he said soon
Didn't below say in the interview that hardcore rework will come next year like early to mid 2025
Oh come on, at this rate all towers will need to reload
Looks really cool.
Hey Elite pls help me i don't know who i need to ask but should i buy gatling first or g crate?
Thank you so much for the video elite keep up the amazing work:)
worthy of a level 100 tower... now when are giving it a coin cost lol
finally someone of influence realised the mili base airstrike bug
i complained it dozen of time already, i didnt know it was rng based
10:00 pursuit disappearing somehow made me laugh
Ok that’s cool and all but there’s still no swarmer rework
True true but if it was almost nobody would play the update because mostly everyone doesn’t have swarmer and it probably be for robux to if you want to get it and people will say it’s another cash grab update
They will slowly rework the old event tower if it's not good. I think they won't rework the event tower consecutively, but they will probably take a break and then rework it, which will take a long time.
lowk fire, if two games blatantly copy each other than we good 🔥
ok man, I know it’s inspired but they didn’t even try to change it they just added 2 paths, At least level lock it or something
Ammo is a really good feature IF the tower is really OP without it
Okay, pursuit is definitely the first tower to have 2 path systems. Tdx Did it with attack helicopter But it's good that pursuit is good now
There is no way it could stay flying with that massive Gatling gun in the front like it is a third of the the size of the total heli. This makes no senses 🗿
So if we want to get the best out of pursuit do we need to get both paths for the other pursuits so we can do single target and deal with hordes?Or do we just spam top path.
put bottom path on random target, you're wasting some splash targeting first enemy, that plus eletro shocker gives it significantly more dps than the single target version, but its less useful for bosses
feels like this was inspired by TDX's helicopter
alright now we need skins
Never doubted this tower. I love it til death alongside mortar
id get 2 bottom path heils and 3 top path heils bc you can only place 5 heils so that i get good dps for bosses/enemys with higgh hp and good splash damage its best of both world and on last wave you can bottom path heils to place 2 more top path heils
finally, the lvl 100 tower is actually good
Oh no the TDX community
Here from TDX to say they copied crook boss so it doesn't matter 😂😂
As one of tdx community tbh I don't care I treated the games equally and it's good that tds has a stealth commache too
Pepperoni pizza from Pizza Hut
Or fettuccine Alfredo from Olive Garden
@@EnragedPilgrimI feel like it would be tower blitz and tds.Yet again it’s stupid and immature to say they copy off each other.These kids need to grow up.
@@robertocampusano3980 yes yes! He uses the logic of some tdx kids to prove them wrong
I think John told Below something like: Copy it completely and let's see what happens
tower defense x isn't the game that implemented this mechanic 😭🙏
@@bakirikab I know they took the idea from BTD and Tower Blitz, also looks like you didn't even read my comment (it's literally a joke)
w rework ngl but 2 paths rlly confused me for a bit
all detections goes hard asf
bottom path gonna be crazy in intermediate mode
It definitely needs to be stronger if it's only considered a sub-dps
people saying they copied tdx is crazy
bloons and monkeys are at war because of this🎉
Mm they're really trying to dethrone gattling gun, jokes on you it still loses
8:22 did bro forget mortar is a level 75 tower and pursuit is a level 100 tower
sacrificed gatling gun for pursuit 😔
Pursuit (top path) does more dps than ACCELERATOR AND G MINI!! AND GATLING DOES TWICE AS MUCH AS PURSUIT!!!! 😭😭😭
5 pursuit top path >>> Gatling
@@alva2778They're js replacing Gatling with Pursuit 😭😭😭
Shame they made the top and bottom path max...have the same model
the pursuit is now THE MOST consistent tower (2nd place is sniper)
YESSSS RAHHHH YESSS PURSUIT MY POOKIE
Which lv 100 tower did you like now
TDS reworked pursuit
Or
TDX warship
Or
Recon base
Old militant but anti stuns
Or
The Best tower of TDX
You can't make me choose-
Recon base my beloved
Warship
Recon base is lvl 45…
They could give the bottom pursuit explosive bullets but with the limit of hitting 2 enemies
Everyone is like: "OMG THEY COPIED THE TWO PATHS" yet max top path is actually just the max top path ace pilot.
"Sky shredder" ain't even hiding it.
I think this just says btd is a very very good tower defense franchise
Hi elite
I still cant believe this is the same game i played a few years ago.
why did the devs nerf gatling and also keep adding ammo mechanics??
honestly, just put both one is single dps and second is crowd control
brawler with a minigun/missle spam:
Elite not knowing that you could place 5 crooks is super funny
Bro i hate this people who just argue about TDS "Copying" TDX and Tower Blitz. You guys haven't heard about the word "inspired", plus John and Below is literally friends so they are probably borrowing each other's idea
1:38 bro really likes gooning
Everyone’s going to say “they copied Tdx” well John and below are friends are alright with taking each others idea, I mean Tdx is also about to steal the crook boss from tds and tds stole the heli from Tdx, so there is no issue
So you telling me they nerfed gatling and made pursuit (a easier tower to get) super strong making gatling useless?
Ah yes! This is my favourite game:
Tower defense X
The new movement for the pursuit is so weird to look at
Top path gonna do 206.6 DPS. Bottom path gonna do 91.5 DPS
BTD5 MENTIONED!!? IS THIS THE BEST REWORK EVER
hes finally lv 400 :D
Hey guys i just tested the ability glitch and it seems that it is pretty rare, i cant confirm that it is patched, but it didn't happen to me in the entire match
Lead damage?
Gotta have a new hardcore solo strat for it
Pursuit+electro+cryo/frostblaster+jester=epic
Pursuit and golden crookboss w combo 🙏
apache prime and apache commander from btd 6 ahh paths
Bottom path would be great on infernal abyss.
i just realized how many of the newer towers have ammo capacities
We didn’t ask for this but needed it!