TBC Hunter Rotation Guide - Increase DPS and Keep It Simple (With rank 1 hunter Enthozz)
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Thanks for watching, love you guys. Thanks to Selbink for helping make this video. Hope this was helpful - feel free to leave comments/questions below.
Just realized my audio fades out at the end - oops
BEAT ME TO IT AND BETTER THAN I COULD DO IT! Love it bro!
Yo Sarthe, do you have a poggers big pumper arms warr in your guild that streams? Can't seem to find any minmax arms warr content creators out there :(
I dunno man. In one of your vids you beat yourself up over moving 3 ft when you didn't need to. We just got to watch Enthozz walk around the Leo room! ;) Don't let him watch yours or his DPS will go up more!
@@gregrussell1787
What do you think gladiator crosbow it’s better than sunfury bow ? Or as 3.1its to big for 1 steady - 2 auto in burst haste ?
poppin' haste pots to help the boys out, love it man, great vid.
Thanks for making this video. As a new hunter, it really helped me understand what I didn't know.
Very tasteful audio fade out at the end, gave me a chuckle.
I usually use intimidation to stun the insidious whisper demon on leo, then I can easily get a steady in
I'm on a "dad" server with a good fun team. I make it my personal goal to hit epic (purple) parses on the boss fights. My grouping is not always optimal, so as much I would love all legendary parses it simply is not a reality unless I server transfer and join a sweaty team. Your video is great and the tips you give definitely helped me improve as a hunter to help my team as much as possible.
Hunter is so dependent on gear and raid comp its crazy, I can hit legendary parses with my warlock even sometimes without a shaman but on my hunter you are completely at the mercy of your guild.
Congrats ! Finally the T5 4parts ! x)
Excellent video; seems I was doing these things instinctually before. Like he says, it all comes with practice and getting a "feel" for it.
Great video Enthozz!
great vid man thank you very much
31:40 is sage advice that everyone should listen to. i've mained hunter since 2005 and did high-end raiding in original vanilla and tbc, so i consider myself a decent hunter. i had almost all 99's in classic naxx, but in classic tbc i was never really able to break out of the low 90's because our hunter group never had a shaman. the week that we recruited a shaman for the hunter group, i pulled a 96 on our first ever kael just doing my regular thing. NOTHING changed except the group comp. my goal right now is to just get all orange parses in p2, because my guild's kill times just aren't fast enough to be able to compete with 99's and similar.
always set goals, but make sure they're realistic goals.
I went from ranked 6000 to 500 in ONE raid after switching guilds. Raid performance and group comp is everything
Please please explain and share your weapon swing timer. I can not for the life of me find what you use or one that looks nearly as good or works nearly as well.
Awesome guide hopefully I can squeeze in some more deeeeps
There’s a weak aura that adds up all the time missed by clipping and informs you how much time was lost on each encounter. I used it a lot to practice the feel of the rotation
Link?
Also looking for that link
great video, thx for sharing your knowledge
Thx for the video.
The fade out at the end though ... what was that ... turning volume up and up and it ends :D
Greetings
Do you think your autoshot timer addon/WA is significantly better than weaponswingtimer? I tried using yours once and it was a little hard to get used to it, but if you think it has that much of an advantage, ill learn it
Great video, should be helpful to a lot of people. Subbed. (PS: your Serpent Sting Weakaura is 1 pixel lower than the Hunter's mark one :( )
Thank you for this video, what swing timer do you use?
What's the name of his weapon swing timer addon?
Can i ask for ur swing addon.
Great video u are the best !
Are you using the newer castsequence SS macro or the original simple SS macro? Thanks for the vids, great stuff
Don’t use a cast sequence macro
I basically just manually SS these days
@@enthozz5326 whats wrong with sequence macros in TBC?
i use this:
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/script speed= UnitRangedSpeed("InputPlayerName") + 0.01
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command
/castsequence reset=speed Steady Shot, !Auto Shot
/petattack
Hey and thanks for the video, really informative!
I was wondering about the auto shot timer you got there below, could you perhaps link it?
Cheers!
Any chance you can share all your weakauras/addons as a "pack"? My WST and castbar seems broken at times (espec. with RF+BL) but yours seems to be working perfectly fine
What addon are u useing ?:=). Great vid
What swing timer you using and what addon is that when your quickshoots procs shows you how much time it has
sweet ;) ty
What swing timer is that? I currently nor have I ever used a swing timer. All my parses are still at the 80-90 rating and for my ilvl they were 95+. I just go by feel, would getting a swing timer be beneficial or screw me up?
Also is there a macro out there that throws hunters mark up when I send my pet to attack that opponent. Mainly for pvp/arena.
When you are under such high haste it's best to replace a multi shot with a steady shot as it clips less. Obviously with multi shot CD you can't do that at all times
@Enthozz Thank you for your work and your insights. May I suggest another topic to talk about? What leads to a huge dps loss when I play the hunter are the factors targeting and pet control. Especially when it gets crowded. Do you tabbing targets or do you click on the mobs? Do you assist? And how do you control your pet? Also assist or some other fancy macros?
Nah I just tag target and pet attack constantly
I would like to request a weakaura video from you, love your content, help me alot.
Yo mate thanks for the little Guide really appreciate it the effort
wago.io/bNtdbWZ-W
Can I ask what gives you the range indicator?
How did u hide the blizz. standart castbar?
Man, love your vids. I’ve never given the swing timer WA a full run but have found myself comfortable with the quartz cast bar and swing timer. How much benefit do you think using the WA swing timer adds? I may try it for next weeks lockouts ..
Hey man just wanted to give you some insight. I’ve used quartz, weapon swing timer sixx, and custom WA’s. Both quartz AND weaponswingtimer ARE off, and quite a bit. Enough to make a difference. The reason I switched to WA was because I always followed the other swing timers exactly….then about a month into tbc I noticed and I could actually cast my steady shots like .2 sec BEFORE the swing timer finished, and it would work and be a dps increase, so for a while I just compensated. Then I switched over to WA and it was spot on. Another little thing that helped me a lot was, I use bartender4 for my bars (and I’m sure other bar addon a have this option), but I switched my spell activation from button release to button press, so my spells cast on keyboard downstroke instead of upstroke. I did this for quite awhile and I think it’s probably best bet…..(this was in vanilla classic), but about halfway through as I got more comfortable with my rotation (and the same applied in tbc when new rotation came along) I switched over to activate on button release/upstroke again, so that I can actually preload my shots ahead of time and be ready…though this might not be for everyone. Every little bit helps! But yea WA is bis. Cheers. Also just a side note, I play SV so using the weak aura and upstroke preload technique is even more important for me because 1) I need to squeeze out all the dps I can, and 2) my rotation is “slower” but busier, I.e. arcane shot on cool down, weaving, traps, multi on cool down…..so I need an accurate timer and to be preloading stuff, since I’m not just steady/auto/multi rotation.
@@Burlehmangus what you’re describing about .2 sec for steady shot just sounds like you’re queuing it, which is intended. Sixx’s swing timer works perfectly fine for me
What’s a good cast bar that shows the clipping of the auto shot? Thanks for video
thx fo that guide man. could you please also name your addon for all these haste procs?
The last bit about getting used to your swing timer is the best advice. You absolutely can use 7 rotations, but your 5:9:1:1 never fully completes. It is just the first part of a 5:5:1:1 or 5:6:1:1 then you are moving or changing haste levels. Theory vs reality.
I have been wondering if saving arcane for movement is truly an increase. If you can naturally get off 1 arcane while standing still than it would equal the moving arcane. So why hold it? The only thing I could think of is it means your SS is a bit later and that could get interrupted by movement.
Depends on wep speed. Someone who is at least partially hasted for most of a fight like me should save Arcane for movement as using it at the end of a steady would result in extra clipping under most cases. Knowing when or if you’ll need to move are two important factors to be aware of
@@enthozz5326 It's definitely more complex with higher haste and more practical to just hold it. The question would be if Arcane is up in a standstill rotation and is a DPS increase. Why hold it? Seems like the answer is only when you are moving more often than the 10s rotation. Otherwise you leave dmg on the table. All that doesn't factor in Serpent Sting as a movement filler. So really as long as SS isn't up, never hold Arcane if you typically would use it.
Sorry I know this is the "let's make this basic so you don't f it all up video". But when people are cracking a devilsaur tooth for 1 extra pet crit, I don't see how this one slips by.
@@enthozz5326 As long as I am not clipping I will try to always use an arcane at the end of a steady if multi is on cd. It's pretty easy to manage since arcane is an instant cast. The only time I hold arcane is when I need to run in/out for traps. usually I will pause momentarily while running in like you said to use multi, drop trap, and then arcane while getting back to position. It's really all just situational, but I would advise against holding arcane during a normal rotation unless you are hasted below 1.5. (realistically it's higher to account for reaction time)
what are your professions? tho
Its that a UI or a WA that you use to show how much delay time for your attack rotation? thanks
@Enthozz Thanks for the video. Would you be able to do the same but with weaving?
very funny
So basically when ur saying 5:5 is that 1 steady shot then auto shot or 5 straight steadys what’s the difference I’m confused between the difference of 1:1 or 5:5 been trying to wrap my head around this I’m a almost t5 hunter and I need to learn it I’ve mastered not clipping my shots so I think I’m doing 1:1 if I’m correct 1 SSand let 1 auto go afterwards
Hello, How do you even get to 2.5k dmg, i've never reached 2k, even with buffs and trinkets :O
Using your rotation on the fly suits me
How important is that auto attack timer addon
Whats is the shot timer you are using and exactly how do you use it?
can you explain pls the swing timer? how to use for not skipping
great guide, thank you!! what's the name of the addon that shows when your pet is missing and when aspect of the hawk is missing?
its part of the same wa, i can send it in discord
@@enthozz5326 would love that wa aswell :)
What addon are you using for your weapon swing timer?
so im confused. the dude says he doesnt use arcane shot at all in his rotation unless hes moving. thats a literal dps loss
Where can I grab a swing timer like that to show any clipping?
Thanks alot for ur advice can u link the weakaura for the buffs (when u get quick shot it shows in middle)
That’s a complicated one that comes with a bunch of other stuff. Contact me on discord and I can send you the whole wa
So you feel like the 2:3 rotation isn't worth bothering with? It seems like a very simple rotation to do and from the chart you referenced there's a big range of attack speeds where 2:3 does more dps that 1:1 and 1:2. I've been doing it in my raids the past few weeks but it's possible I'm just gimping my damage by not sticking to 1:1/1:2.
i dont think its a big range at all, if memory serves. theoretically**, it edges out 1:1 by a bit for rf/lust which doesnt do much for me since im almost always using rf with a haste pot. it also marginally beats out 1:1 with rf/lust/qs but again, im using a haste pot during this time.
@@enthozz5326 From just eyeballing the graph I think .88 to 1.18 is the range 2:3 is more DPS than 1:1 and 1:2 but it makes sense you wouldn't need to use it if you're not in that haste range much. I think having DST makes you end up in that range more frequently though.
By the way thanks for the guide man - picked up some good tips for raid next week.
For the Leo fight, would you recommend using your pets stun ability if the shadow demon gets cast on you to create distance?
Trap...pet taunt .... works like a charm
any thoughts on direbew mug + BLB vs BLB + hourglass? Can't seem to get DST to drop so im wondering what would be better overall.
mug + BLB for sure
@@enthozz5326 thanks
How has life been since the IT crowd ended?
Great content, a bit quiet on the volume side for me.
Do you use a macro? How do you not clip shots at high haste? I have dst and when it pops with lust and CD's it is impossible for me not clip shots
Hey what is your Swingtime Add on ?
Hey, I see you using agility + mp5 pots, is there a reason why you aren't using 120ap flask instead?
they're very close but i like having the mana regen
which macro you use now ?
How do you get a swing timer that tells you you clipped an auto?
When do you start your steady cast on that swing timer? As soon as the white reaches the red line?
as soon as you see the auto shot cast start you are safe to spam steady shot.
will you be using wind serpent in p3? If so what abilities/spec?
no, i wouldnt use it
what do you use to tell if you are clipping autos? and what addon are you using to see your haste?
my swing timer tells me if my autos are delayed
What’s the best steady shot macro to use?
Is Kill command not in this rotation then?
Can i get the name of the weapon swing timer addon? i've tried a few and they are so wonky because they are still tailored to Vanilla classic
It’s a weak aura posted in response to a couple other comments!
do u need to click on autoshot?
what bar is that
that you are talking about
What swing timer is that?
What is that Swing Timer?
where i can find those test damage hitbag dummy orcs??
DM North
Why don’t you show your talent tree?
I was using 5:5:1:1 rotation when I'm at 2.10 speed as it was shown here, but then I saw that hunter in my raid always have higher dps, I looked at his rotation and at speed 2.10 he was using 5:5:1:1 too but mashing steady shots so he was clipping auto's a lot, then i was trying to do the same at dummies, the result was that the way what that hunter use clipping auto's was same or slightly better for dps, can someone explain why?
There could be many other factors involved, I’d have to look at the logs
Eh, I just spam SS macro and multi/as on cd. Dish out good dps.
in which diremaul ?
'clipping' is also different to delaying, sometimes its an actual dps gain if you delay to seueeze those multi or arcanes in during frecnh..thats how the rotation works
But at 1:1 eWs then ye clipping or rather delaying, shouldnt be happening
can anyone recommend an addon for knowing one's attack speed?
All you lucky BM hunters that don’t have to be the ones weaving Scorpid sting into your rotations 😏. Also, I fully agree with enthozz’ view. I’ve found it so dumb, all the different concrete rotations and everyone acts like they’re a rocket scientist. Nah, it’s really simple..you auto shot, and squeeze as much as possible as you can in between auto shots with no or minimal clipping. It’s as simple as that. It’s easier to just use your intuition than constantly be trying to calculate exactly what rotation to use….with the constant change in haste levels through an encounter, nobody but a savant can constantly calculate that crap. Intuition is all. Cram in all you can. I pull 1.7k st as survival 7/20/34 in suboptimal gear from making sure I’m usin agi gear for expose even at personal loss, with just intuition. I’d say that’s not bad
Where can I get the clip counter?
here you are wago.io/bNtdbWZ-W
@@enthozz5326 my hero
Can anyone link me his shot timer?
raid sort of matters too.....you guys kill bosses so fast you barley spend any time completley unhasted :p be it chained lusts or w/e
vs a more casual raid a hunter could get a lot more out of a tidy french rotation simply due to how much more time they spend unhasted comparitively to your raid.
and if unhasted 2:1 / 3:2 is more dps than 1:1 (if not going to french)
you also said 2:1 for when hasted, when you meant 1:2 ;>
so quiet
Jesus. I dont understand shit.
Great video, thank you so much!
which weakauras do you use for procs?
It’s part of a much bigger and somewhat outdated weak aura. I’d be happy to post it in my discord once home