Total creative freedom while looking for grounding and balance with your ideas and emotions, and expanding the empathy in your musical expression and beyond. What surprises me most about Jacob is his emotional intelligence above his abnormally intelligent mind. It has allowed me to relate and understand more forms of expression.
He did a great segment for Wired where he explains that for chords, more isn’t always better. Adding #11 and b4 is not always necessary and it’s okay to keep it simple
I've learned a new inspiration and determination to learn. Basically he taught me how to want to learn rschnical stuff. He also explains very complex things in interviews so... in short a lot
Honestly he just inspires me to compose. He makes me want to try composing with new instruments, because he taught me that if you do it right, you can voice anything to sound like heaven...
Jacob is, of course, an utter prodigy but I think what really makes him so magnetic is that he is extraordinarily talented while also exuding an immense sincerity and joy. He seems like such a genuine, wholesome dude who has an endless excitement for what he does. You cannot help but be drawn into what he's saying.
It's awesome. Being a classical flutist for 15 years, I can for sure tell you that musicians can be the most pretentious people who make the least amount of money 😂
@@albertnortononymous9020 he's using the hairstyles to denote who is 'singing' what part, for people watching to be able to mimic his physicality to try and reproduce his sound, as well as the harmonics hes singing. It's simply another tool for people like me to auditorily break down the parts real time, to train my ear to discern different vocal tones.
Love this guy. He, in my opinion, is a genius, who will make it into the history books. I thought my knowledge of harmony was fairly good, but Collier has blown me away with his heightened discoveries. They have taken music to the next level. Bue bye, Schoenberg et al.
Hans Zimmer is an over rated hack but I agree that Jacob has an extraordinary capability to take the vast wealth of musical knowledge and throw it aside in favor of creativity. His genius is not due to his musical knowledge but in the way he uses it to inform his artistry.
@@markspencer8790 Yeah I mean for his genre Of Music Jacob is amazing. I would say though that there are many artists that do this and many musicians but not all are known not only in jazz but other genres. We are lucky to know Jacobs talents. Let's also recognize though that not all is transferable. Jazz is his thing. Hip hop/rap or rock maybe not. Who knows but let's remember that no ones talents are omnipotent.
Jacob Collier is like science in music form to me. It's doing a bunch of cool shit and I know it's got a shit ton of work and depth into it, but I have no idea what is behind any of it
If that's the analogy you're making then it's my job to be condescending to other people by using jargon nobody understands and answering questions with answers to questions easier than the questions they asked.
My experience with JC lots of times is: I listen to one of his songs for the first time and I may not be in love with it right away, some of them may even sound weird... but the more i listen to them, hear the details, the more I "study" that song, the more I fall inlove with it! Jacob is trully amazing! And so are you, Charles!!! cheers! Great video!
Pedro Lopes that's a really good way to put it. Part of the brilliance of his music is its depth and complexity, all of which you just can't comprehend and appreciate with superficial listening.
Yeah I agree. There are definitely some that I love right away, but listening to it multiple times or even Jacob playing it in a different setting (e.g. live) really does bring your attention to the depth and genius of his music.
Same! Watching the logic session breakdowns of his songs made me discover so many details that I didn't really hear right away. All of his songs are so amazing:)
I don't think Collier is pretentious, It's more that he's so excited to use all the tools in his toolbox that it comes across as showy or ostentatious, ie "hey look at me and all these off-the-wall chord progressions" even if that is NOT his intention (he seems pretty humble from the videos I've seen). He annoyed me at first I'll admit but anyone who is willing to do live-streams where they reveal their trade secrets simply bc they want to pass on knowledge, for FREE is more than ok in my book.
That’s true, but his newer stuff is starting to move away from that. As he matures, that show off-y stuff will go away, and he will use all of that incredible technique and knowledge to make something really meaningful. Pretty much all amazingly talented prodigies take that path.
My boyfriend says that too, he said he'd love to see him live (we bought tickets for next year!) but when he listens to his records they're too "busy" for him and he says he's a bit tired afterwards, and that other jazzy stuff he listens to and enjoys more are more simplistic. Personally I understand how one can be a bit exhausted after some of these songs packed with stuff but to me listening multiple times and experiencing and unlocking all of these layers in my mind, focusing on something else each time I listen, is what makes Jacob's music exciting to me. I love when music is more "complicated" because I experience sth else every time I listen. My boyfriend says, like you, that it does come across as show-off and too much for the sake of too much, but I agree with you that he's just excited to use all his tools and add more and more. Maybe the more is not the merrier, and I'm sure I would enjoy a stripped down version or potential path of his just as much, but for now I couldn't be enjoying myself more. I love how complex and busy his songs are, but I can't say "I wouldn't want it any other way". Tbh I'm sure I'll enjoy whatever he makes haha.
Who said he was pretentious? That's not the vibe I get from him I get a Vibe of like a giddy kid but I have to say his music doesn't really do much for me other than maybe a couple song but it's nothing I'm going back to. But still I appreciate his talent he's doing some really cool things for jazz
@@nikibronson133 He's getting there, still full of youth and hope and joy. Give it time. Even with all it's depth, his music is a little boring. But yeah the guy is definitely talented
i (a music student) went to jacob's concert in my city last year and when he asked if anyone in the audience was a musician I KID YOU NOT like 90% of us raised our hands. it was wild.
Well, there is a bit of fault in that. If you only appeal to musicians, you are missing a point about music. It is not to be shared only amongst musicians... Theres a very big space between commercial/product music and extremely intricate music. But , in my personal opinion, both extremes fall into error. Yes, you are a genius musician with incredible knowledge and perfect pitch and talent, but the joy of music is to communicate something that people can understand or follow, hell, even remember. I don't like going to a show and not remembering a single note out of the show, or at least a melody I can sing. Most memorable music that lives through the ages have a good balance of simple and complicated. Top of my mind, hear Dance Macabre by Camile Saint Saens, and you'll remember at least 3 or 4 melodies of the piece. I've tried hearing Jacobs songs or arrangaments and it never does it for me. I appreciate him as a theorist and because of the extreme musical gymnastics that he acomplishes, but his music , I just cannot like it, I've tried. To finish, If I held a 5000 person gig, and everyone is a musician... well, I wouldn't say that's good. It means that I am failing to communicate with the average listener
Well , If you have more knowledge or are atuned to slightly more sophisticated attempts at making music, you re obviously gonna be way MORE excited by Jacobs music. My mom never studied music but LOVED Monk, Stravinsky, Miles , Debussy etc for the avoidance of convention while still making beautiful music.
It is funny because When I heard about him from my friends, I was actually surprised why they are feeling like he is some sort of god or something? Even after listening some of Jacob's music...it didn't impressed me. Because I actually understood the theories...most of it before even hearing about him from my friends.
part of what i’ve always rather loved about jacob collier is that when he talks about music, he never talks about what he’s doing as if it’s the greatest thing in the world, but he talks about music itself and what it does as if it is. he is a humble breath of fresh air that’s just having fun and helping other people have fun, too
It just feels like something cold and clinical written by a nerd sitting in a cold basement. Like yeah dude is probably a musical theory genius, but not a creative or soulful, or even tasteful one lol.
@@nikibronson133 he has a different type of perfect pitch, somehow it’s better then mine. I also have perfect pitch but hearing some of the notes he makes boggles my brain, bro is making notes that didnt even exist before then
He’s probably an alien music prodigy experiment that got out of hand after gaining self awareness and they just sent him down to earth because they couldn’t control him anymore.
Charles: I personally haven’t put in the time to understand harmony that well: Also Charles: We can use these four large hadron chords combined with a double hexahedron tide pod to create some really cool harmonies.
I am just a (re-)commencing composer, but one MAJOR impact Jacob has had on my composing is him explaining that: there are no WRONG notes, it is just a matter of what you play NEXT. This made me start looking more chromatically at voice leading, as the tension created by a stray chord or melody can always be resolved nicely into a diatonic harmony, and it opened the door to shift keys, modes and root over some chords I had never considered before based on the music theory I had studied so far.
right?? I wonder whether he is familiar with early (medieval and renaissance) polyphony wich have wildly interesting voice progressions....machaut, dufay, gesualdo.......
Please review city pop! It's a style of 70s/80s Japanese pop music that's often heavily jazz influenced. In recent years, the genre has had a resurgence on TH-cam. Lots of people agree that the "Holy Trinity" of city pop is 1. Plastic Love by Mariya Takeuchi 2. Stay with Me by Miki Matsubara 3. 4 AM by Taeko Ohnuki (which is probably the jazziest out of the three; I would start with this one!)
I must have listened to Plastic Love 1000 + times when I 1st heard it and I'm glad I randomly stumbled upon your comment because Taeko Ohnuki.... wowowowowow.
@@thejamiebodyssey9496 Yeah lol I think most TH-cam people started with Plastic Love. Taeko Ohnuki is amazing! Her SUNSHOWER album is an masterpiece IMO
Why can’t we as the human species look at a person who is more talented than ourselves and just be ecstatic that we live in the same world as they do? Why do we have to hate - them or ourselves? I as so thrilled to know there are people like Jacob in my world in my time. And I get to enjoy him whenever I want because of the miracle of the internet. The majority of people in Mozart’s day never even knew he existed let alone were able to hear and appreciate his genius while he was alive.
@@alebecher5056 sure, but instead of sharing said opinions people tend to rub in your face their own and how much you are not correct for not having theirs
Every time I listen to him I'm thinking "wow this is impressive, the harmony is so rich, what a talent" but then the songs never actually pop into my head outside of that.
Sometimes when I’m tired of practicing I just let my hands play some random chords and melodies that don’t have anything to do with each other... most of the time it sounds extremely alien... but at least I can pretend to be a jazz pianist for a while.
The video makes me think of this Bill Evans quote: "I do not agree that the layman’s opinion is less of a valid judgement of music than that of the professional musician. In fact I would often rely more on the judgement of a sensitive layman than that of a professional since the professional because of his constant involvement with the mechanics of music must fight to preserve the naivety that the layman already possesses.”
Jacob has the uncanny ability to make me go “huh, I’ve never thought of that” basically every time he talks about music. I was just watching a master class he did and he brought up chord extensions past the 13th and I was genuinely shocked that I’d never heard of that before
Every time I listen to one of Jacob’s songs, I as a musician, always hear a new legitimately sick musical concept that I’ve never understood. I then go to understand that concept and why it’s so awesome. When I finally get back to that same song to gush about how good it is, I find another amazing concept that I’ve never understood that supersedes the first one. It never stops. Keep in mind that I’m a 13 year multi instrumentalist, with perfect pitch and a good ear, that came from a musical family. Jacob is not that much younger than me (I’m 28). His music engages your musical brain and the emotional side of the music within you from the singing and instrumental sides in harmony. For people like Herbie Hancock, Quincy Jones, Steve Vai, and hundreds of other big name artists that are good friends of Jacob and can gush about him even more than I do, that is no laughing matter. Just listen to Moon River.
Perfectly said…I’ve studied at a pretty high level and can somewhat understand Jacobs concepts…kinda pissed he gives away how to do reharms live improvised cause I do that well …he showed it to kids like an open book test, giving away the secrets of it…lol
Agree, the kid is so talented but his taste still needs to develop a lot I think. He’s too focused on what he COULD do musically, if often comes out as a jumble- once he walks it back I’m excited to hear the result.
This is so sad guys. This may even approach psychopathology. The more natural response is to just admire what he is capable of. I feel not in the least devaluated in my musicianship by him. It‘s more that he is an endless inspiration.
Achenar Myst I’m not sure whether you have credentials to diagnose psychopathology (or psychopathy) - but I do know that nearly everyone I know has similar feelings when they see successful people who are younger than they are. I think it’s especially common in people who were pushed to be the best at something (academics, music, sports) who see someone effortlessly doing something that they had to work tirelessly and be pushed toward. I think it’s another symptom of “gifted child syndrome” more so than psychopathy.
Graham Kristensen Best explanation in my opinion. I feel extremely jealous of his talent and kind of get discouraged when I listen to his music but at the same time it encourages me to get better 🤷🏻♂️
Everyone in our jazz band can't stand him. He has such an ego, he was in an interview and was talking about "I personally like %63 swing, here's 65 and heres 63" he's honestly a very white jazz musician lmao
@@Gysklar I absolutely can't stand him. I appreciate that he is IMMENSELY talented, far beyond what I could every hope to be, but I find him super egotistical and the music he makes is almost unlistenable to me
Iszy Butler What’s most important is that you tell a story, your story in a way that is authentic and effective. Jacob is amazing in his technical ability but other than being sonically rich and affecting, sometimes leaves me emotionally cold.
@@vickiburns1642 I can definitely agree to an extent. I've never really felt an emotional connection with his songs. Don't get me wrong, I think Jacob collier is one of the most musically talented people of this generation, but his music has never really touched me emotionally. Thanks for the advice! btw, I looked at you channel and I just want to say, you have an amazing voice!
The biggest thing about Jacob that allows him to be so outside and bizarre yet utterly accessible is that he does everything with a palpable and obvious sense of joy. You feel like he KNOWS who he is, and just accepts it utterly, with no arrogance; and you sense that his life's mission is to try to channel and distribute his great gifts to us as easily as possible, always packaged in that warmth and good humor. He is so self-effacing and disarming personally that he could play practically anything and that smile would make it OK. The polyrhythmic approach to groove and microtonal stuff derail me a little until I get used to it, but I'm so awash in love for his harmonic choices that it just doesn't matter.
Your point about the "feel" of music is interesting because it's something I've always thought but could never articulate. Even beyond jazz and rhythm instruments, if you watch a professional orchestra and a youth orchestra playing the same piece, often the professional version has a better "feel". The youth orchestra might be able to play it note perfect, but often the players haven't been exposed to enough music to understand the feel of the music, and it sounds flat. God knows that's how I played back in high school.
Omgomgomg Is the comment god gonna go comment on Jacob's Channel And now I have to fight the comment god I have 200 comments in Jacob's but I think I need more to get a chance with this guy
The first Jacob video I saw was "The Flintstones" - the second video he uploaded to TH-cam. Instantly blown away. His ability to create incredibly complex music and yet make it emotionally accessible to every human is otherworldly. I truly think he is the Mozart of our time. He wears his eccentricity well as well. His albums are like the other great albums in recorded history - every time you take the time to listens critically, you hear something new.
12:17-12:48 This sounds so much like the kind of relaxing/emotional track you'd hear in a JRPG or a Metroidvania/platformer like Ori and the Blind Forest or Hollow Knight. Which makes sense, given how often video game composers write outside of typical genre conventions and experiment with harmonies and instrumentation.
Even though I’m not a huge fan of his music and I find his videos a bit strange, I still think he’s extremely talented and I greatly appreciate his creativity
I won't deny that Jacob's music is super challenging to produce and require a lot of talent. That said, I can't say I'm that much of a fan. My ears kinda glaze over all of the intricacies and complexities put into the songs, and it's not necessarily what I'm looking for in music.
True, i feel the same groups like him and Dirty Loops its taken to the extreme. It's not necessarily ear pleasing, unless being highly autistic perhaps.
I think that when he applies his genius to incorporating his complex harmonies and galaxy-brain understanding of music into writing something catchy and accessible, the result is astounding and really enjoyable to listen to. But more recently, starting with his album Djesse and moving forward, he’s leaned more and more towards just experimenting with these crazy ideas and, since he’s already successful, hasn’t really worked as hard to make these ideas accessible to a wider audience. As a result, it’s just harder to enjoy these more recent songs because they’re really more explorations of harmony than they are catchy music. I don’t fault him for that since I’m sure he’s having tons of fun finding his musical voice, and tons of people dig that surreal sound, so he doesn’t have to worry about losing his fanbase, but it’s just too complex and esoteric for me personally, and probably for a lot of people who like his mind-blowing but still grounded earlier works.
I don't think Jacob's music is something that you just casually listen to though. I find it refreshing in the way that if you sit down and really listen and becoming engrossed in it, the depth is mindblowing and it's just so unlike any other artist out there, many of which are focused on selling music with catchy tunes. He is clearly just focussed on his passion instead and this is what makes me smile when I hear his music.
When he mentioned chorus and mentioned alto, I felt acknowledged🥺✨ but yes we sang hideaway by Jacob collier in chorus and the harmonies were a nice change from singing the same note to highlight the melody that we usually never get to sing
Jazz is to musicians, as what tech-house is to DJs. It's music that speaks to that particular part of one's soul. I love musicians geeking out on other musicians. What a community musicians are, hey? Love it, appreciate the love from musician to musician.
His understanding of harmony is unrivaled. His music stands to prove how little we have explored about harmony, and how much more is left uncharted. It takes a lot of courage and passion to explore beyond the conventional. Jacob Collier is truly a once in a generation genius.
His remixes sound like too much of everything, like he has al the notes in the world playing at the same time on different instruments. Also Jazz... 😖 for me he ruined perfectly balanced songs, like adding too much of salt to a meal. How he sounds good to others is truly incomprehensible to me.
@@chlorinelori1064 Take a look at the scores of his music. Then you'll understand why musicians are raving about Collier. Maybe it does not suit your taste, but please understand literally the first thing about music. It is entirely subjective.
@@TheReal4th Hence she stated her opinion, or her dislike of his music. You could be the most genius musician in the world, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to like your music.
@WEEWOO yea hes a genius in relation to music theory, but hes not unique in his own collaboration of unique pieces If hes such a genius why is his music generic sounding
@@sirthursday6159 true music is true soul expression, true music is felt through the whole body, whole being. not something to be mentally understood and dissected. hence what i meant by lack of creativity. Is he empty inside? does he have no soul? thats what it sounds like
@@aohjii exactly. As AI comes into play more and more I suspect it will churn out arbitrary degrees of complexity. But if you want to hit on an emotional level, that takes something intangible, to convey suffering or lived experience.
What I love about Jacob is he's obviously so insanely talented but he's not snobby about the fundamental joy of creating music. He made me - just an amateur - feel like my expression through music is just as valid as anyone elses. That's a super cool feeling!
Jacob’s a great musician, he’s been gifted with a huge musical talent. I saw him live few months ago. I just want to point out my opinion about some of his work, what he does is great, absolute madness, the production, the arrangement, everything’s just great. Only thing I feel is sometimes the purpose of the music and the meaning behind it, it just goes away in this 200 + harmonies going on. Don’t get me wrong again, I love Jacob. I just feel as a listener sometimes you don’t really want the music to be so deviated to it’s root. Just my opinion
Absolutely agree!!! Way overrated in my opinion, there are milions of intelligent young musicians around the world, it s just they dont all try to sell their music on youtube to a rising style to get popular. Playing with harmonics is also very simpler with todays technology. Just saying, undoubtedly clever guy, but nothing that jaw-dropping. Average musical theory sold as complicated elite music to the big market of youtube, just for success.
I feel like the level of emotion expressed in that depth of harmony is what attracts me so much. Take that last moving section in Moon River: There is a constant rise in tuning, harmonies going crazy, but yet it still feels like a normal buildup to the climax. I never felt overwhelmed in that moment, but knew the complexity of it around me. I feel like the emotions carried in that complexity does a lot for musicians that aspire to create similar emotional responses. Can totally understand why it wouldnt suit other people.
Yeah, I think his music is very personal to himself and sometimes it's hard to hear what he's getting at. But I love that too, it's a real special kind of music he's making
I felt the same way originally but then I feel he evolved, and the album closer of Djesse Vol.2 touched me deeply with its simplicity, so I think he understands the balance of technicality and emotional connections just right.
I heard "he won't hold you" for the first time (and usually I don't repeat songs because I tend to ruin it for myself) but I played that song AT LEAST five different times in a row. I was mesmerized. Jacob Collier is...a musical magician.
I really like Jacob's music. It's really interesting and feels different, yet familiar. However, I feel like the choice to break free of usual chords progression and harmonies is that there is an almost constant tension and rarely (or just less frequently) a resolution of said tension in his pieces. Not saying that it's necessarily wrong, that's part of the charm and fun of it all, but it is an unusual feeling that sometimes gets inconfortable, though never unbearably so (as opposed to straight dissonance for example).
Actually most of the notes in his chords do resolve, but in a "less powerful" way then what we're used to. Ho rarely uses resolution like V-I, but every note moves in a really thoughtful way that resolve its previous tension, yet keeping a general tension due to the creation of new dissonances
The one problem I think he has, other than his voice, which as a classically trained singer, I find a bit odd, is that he usually can't stop himself from going a bit wild, sometimes you have to reign it back, if you listen to moon River, it doesn't have a cohesive structure, which makes for a stressful listening experience.
@@bobajob13 I actually agree on when he goes wild, I struggle to consume it, but I disagree about moonriver. I think he got the balance perfect. There were sections of almost complete resolution, and some slightly wild section. It was both stimulating, yet familiar and recognisable!
as someone with perfect pitch, jacobs music is the most satisfying music I’ve ever listened to. Stuff like You And I and Moon River are some of my favorite songs of all time because of how satisfying his harmonies are. That’s just me though, I also love when music is crazy and has a lot of stuff going on at once.
what i love about him is that he makes the complex harmony that he uses seem easy, like i can learn to understand this sort of stuff myself. that sort of influence is inspirational, the sort of thing a future generation of musicians would aspire to
The best thing about him is how much he loves the music. Like IN LOVE with it 😂 There are few people it's been so obvious with, in my experience. Paul Gilbert comes to mind, the man loves his axe and he's always gonna play it with a smile
@@khoivinh3402 no, but the enthusiasm my dude. People say they love things but how does that compare? I love cars as far as I'm aware but I also recall an article about a guy who'd went out of his way to have sex with all these different cars.. whatever that means. Clearly, I don't have the same enthusiasm for the automobile as that guy. Some people love things better. If you see one couple cuddling and the other on their respective phones minding their own business, which would you assume is a more loving relationship? Lots of people love music. Lots of people are in love with music. But are they like, soulmates?
Jacob Collier is the first of a new generation of musician combining strong understanding of composition, pitch and groove with positivity, humility and an eagerness to share. The future of music is brilliant!
Maybe the one that you know of like there are other people who have this level of skill just not everybody meets the light of day and there are other people in genres of music that you probably don't like because Jacobs genre is jazz but people in hip-hop or pop or R&B or rock and roll that do the same thing but for their music. Jacob is undeniably impressive But let's not act As if he's some savior of music when No one said there was anything wrong with music Now it's just music you don't like
@@nikibronson133 I appreciate all music but improvisation is dear to my heart, however let me know who your favourites are and if I haven’t heard of them I will give them a listen with an open mind
@@lavatar3562 i wouldn't necessarily classify Jacob as an improv jazz artist... and I was mainly referring to popular music of all genres. Just because it may not be your favorite doesn't mean that it's somehow less worth, valuable or intensive as this or that somehow Jacob could make it better is all. On a personal note I like all music so its hard to narrow it down. Right now I'm listing to Parliament-Funkadelic. World class musicians of a different genre
I am so impressed with him, while at the same time I often feel very little on an emotional level. It is like whatever emotions he brings forward with his music, they are too abstract or too subjective to actually make anything happen in me. Other than sheer awe of his abilities. Well, I guess that is a feeling :D I have yet to actually finish a song by him. Like, putting it on, and letting it play until the timer reaches the end. But I think I have seen almost everything with him. Seen all videos, but only half of each? Yeah, that is about right. So he initially draws me in during a given song, but then I am off again to a new fix of being drawn in by him. Over and over again. I dunno. Mad respect. But I enjoy him from a pure technical pov, and I will never just listen to him for longer periods of time.
to me it sounded exactly like that one that goes "you are the sunshine of my life / and i will always be around" (i forget the exact name but it was freakishly similar)
Jacob’s music is definitely not my cup of tea, but I find his talent unbelievable and incredibly inspiring. That’s what’s kinda cool about him: I don’t have to gravitate to or love what he creates, but I’d be a total dumbass to not recognize that he is probably the greatest living musician on the entire planet. I mean…seriously….who the f*** is better at music than he is? Lol.
it's funny that anyone would ever feel down for a moment when they see this young person striving to be the best they can at something they love, just because they are so incredibly gifted. I've always felt ecstatic and so grateful that our world has another great musical mind that will be remembered for hundreds of years.
The June Lee videos blew my mind the first time I watched them all. It made sense, but not at the same time and as a sample-based producer, it helped me tap into melody creation and even better sample chops. Thanks for covering Jacob’s phenomenal music.
Okay I'm coming back to this video. I'm in a Berklee 5 week program and Jacob came as a guest to our class and taught us some amazing things. Even made a song in 1 mintues that is better than anything I've made. He also said that piano isn't real, just physics.
Jacob s right bout physics , I self taught myself piano using physics and space relations…and close to perfect pitch …I also listened to McCoy Tyner, Bud Powell Larry Young , Chick and Herbie and both Keith’s around the clock and practiced 6 hrs a day. Collier s a friggin genius
Oh jeez that bit at 12:16 was really great. Instantly could hear the difference between that and playing familiar progressions, and it sounded really pretty.
There's absolutely zero denying that Jacob is probably one of the most skilled and talented musicians living, and certainly in this current internet age. I just can't get into most of the sounds he makes. His arrangements just don't gel with my personal sensibilities and I REALLY am underwhelmed by his vocal timbre. I'm glad he's around and pushing the boundaries of music but I just can't get into him.
He's an absolute prodigy and that he's a musical genius is pretty much impossible to deny. He's plausibly on the same level as Mozart in terms of sheer natural gifts. But I'm also of the perspective that while his technical grasp of music is both astounding and fascinating, he doesn't tend to write music that I have much desire to listen to. I think the basic problem is that he essentially grew up in a music room and has never had much of a life outside of it, so he doesn't bring much in terms of emotional authenticity to his music.
@@AlexG-bc7ji - I have to disagree with you in your comparison to Mozart. Jacob is still a relatively new phenomena in music. He has put forward a lot of interesting stuff and ideas. But comparing him to Mozart, I don't feel makes sense. Mozart, as well as other famous composers from hundreds of years ago, were on another level. It shows when you learn a lot about them, and what they did with their music. And how good they were at it. Mozart was a prodigy from a very young age, of course thanks to his father molding him, as well as him having a talent and interest in music. When you see someone professional analyze his music and explain what he did in e.g. 40th symphony, movement 1, amazement is probably what you will feel. It's not just an amazing piece of music, it is also extremely well crafted and has a fair share of more complex theory behind it. We can also take a look at some of his operas, which usually lasts 2-3 hours, and are undeniable masterpieces in that category. Heck, he even did 12 variations on what we know as "Twinkle twinkle, little star" which is just amazing. Insanely creative. And then there's all the accounts of how much of a musical mastermind he was, perfect pitch, the ability to listen to a piece just once and then remember it and write it down, note by note, and so on. And the list can go on. He, as well as other famous composers from back then, were on another level in terms of musical gifts and talents. And there's a good reason why. In all fairness, I think it's first and foremost a weird comparison to compare someone composing jazzy music in 2020 to classical composers the classical (or romantic) period. But even if we were to, I'd say that Jacob has not earned such a spot yet just because he has done a lot of interesting and unique stuff with music, and brought some interesting ideas to the table, regarding music theory. Not yet, that is. He might (and probably will) get a spot as one of the most inventive musicians of the 21st century. I'd still say, that comparing him to classical composers seems weird though.
His voice might be the biggest roadblock to getting into his music. It sounds like all the enunciation of the lyrics he sings is coming from deep inside his lungs, instead of from his mouth, in addition to the fact that he sounds like he's swallowing his voice, if that makes any sense.
Which is understandable. Different people look for different things in music. For me, I literally seek out music that pushes the boundaries of what I have heard harmonically and rhythmically, so his music is basically all I could ask for for a person like me. It just depends on what types of things appeal to you.
Apart from everything that has been said, I'd add the fact that Jacob is an extremely nice person. I have never ever encountered an artist of a world-class level who would be that available for having a talk and sharing his knowledge. He's incredibly easy-going, and he clearly maintains great relationships with both his fans and colleagues. I was at his concert in Moscow, Russia a couple of years ago, and I remember he literally spent more than an hour and a half after the event talking with everyone who wanted to have a chat.
for those of you in the comments saying he’s always doing too much without emotion, I implore you to look further! before you discredit him for not feeling his music try giving a listen to songs like “time to rest your weary head” “makes me cry” and “in the real early morning”. He has a lot of fun exploring and making huge arrangements, but every once in a while makes a nice more restrained song. also, in one of the theory videos he talks about cadences like feelings. how it’s like coming home and the different voicings and colors are the different emotions you can feel in a situation. to be fair I’m a huge Collier fan, so I’m biased, just trying to share the sensitive sides. of course you don’t have to like him, you are entitled to your opinions! but he’s not a “machine” or a “god”, he’s a human being with a story to share if you listen 💗
Yeah, and I think another issue is that people saying his music lacks emotion have a very compartmentalized idea of what expression in music entails based on their past experience. Every song he makes feels the way he wants it to, and communicates in the way he meant to communicate it. It's not always meant to be a bop. I agree that some of his stuff (especially the way early recordings) are more experimental and just trying something to see if it works rather than being something refined in the way he would refine it, but everything on any of his albums is expressing EXACTLY what he wanted to express in that moment.
@12:16 - that was lovely. I can't really explain it, but this made me go off into a memory that was both sad and happy. Remembering a dear friend or a lover who drifted away leaving fond memories behind.
For my fellow musicians: what have you taken from Jacob's music that has helped you in your own??
How about a word from a non-musician? I've taken honesty, earnestness and transparency from his music.
Total creative freedom while looking for grounding and balance with your ideas and emotions, and expanding the empathy in your musical expression and beyond.
What surprises me most about Jacob is his emotional intelligence above his abnormally intelligent mind. It has allowed me to relate and understand more forms of expression.
He did a great segment for Wired where he explains that for chords, more isn’t always better. Adding #11 and b4 is not always necessary and it’s okay to keep it simple
I've learned a new inspiration and determination to learn. Basically he taught me how to want to learn rschnical stuff. He also explains very complex things in interviews so... in short a lot
Honestly he just inspires me to compose. He makes me want to try composing with new instruments, because he taught me that if you do it right, you can voice anything to sound like heaven...
Jacob is, of course, an utter prodigy but I think what really makes him so magnetic is that he is extraordinarily talented while also exuding an immense sincerity and joy. He seems like such a genuine, wholesome dude who has an endless excitement for what he does. You cannot help but be drawn into what he's saying.
ana barkley THIS
Reminds me of Bobby McFerrin
Dont forget discipline
When you speak with much passion, that is a natural reaction.
EXACTLYYY
Becuase of his bear hat.. that’s the only reason
The One and only answer
It's a compelling one
The truth finally revealed
@dylan foley hello fellow ling ling wannabe
@dylan foley he is InteReStInG
He's a prodigy that makes music that isn't pretentious. Also, the way he explained harmony to a 5 year old, That was precious.
It's awesome. Being a classical flutist for 15 years, I can for sure tell you that musicians can be the most pretentious people who make the least amount of money 😂
Isn’t pretentious? Did you not even notice the six individual outlandish-yet-oddly-stylish hairstyles in that first “Isn’t She Lovely” video?
@@albertnortononymous9020 he's using the hairstyles to denote who is 'singing' what part, for people watching to be able to mimic his physicality to try and reproduce his sound, as well as the harmonics hes singing. It's simply another tool for people like me to auditorily break down the parts real time, to train my ear to discern different vocal tones.
@@albertnortononymous9020 Why is that pretentious?
Love this guy. He, in my opinion, is a genius, who will make it into the history books. I thought my knowledge of harmony was fairly good, but Collier has blown me away with his heightened discoveries. They have taken music to the next level. Bue bye, Schoenberg et al.
"There's musicianship and then there's genius and then, way, way, way above all that, out in the stratosphere, is Jacob Collier"
-Hans Zimmer
@therainman777 That's what I'd like to know too haha
@@TKSnatch you're the man, thanks for sharing
Hans Zimmer is an over rated hack but I agree that Jacob has an extraordinary capability to take the vast wealth of musical knowledge and throw it aside in favor of creativity. His genius is not due to his musical knowledge but in the way he uses it to inform his artistry.
Where does Mozart fit in that scale?
@@markspencer8790 Yeah I mean for his genre Of Music Jacob is amazing. I would say though that there are many artists that do this and many musicians but not all are known not only in jazz but other genres. We are lucky to know Jacobs talents.
Let's also recognize though that not all is transferable. Jazz is his thing. Hip hop/rap or rock maybe not. Who knows but let's remember that no ones talents are omnipotent.
Jacob Collier is like science in music form to me. It's doing a bunch of cool shit and I know it's got a shit ton of work and depth into it, but I have no idea what is behind any of it
If that's the analogy you're making then it's my job to be condescending to other people by using jargon nobody understands and answering questions with answers to questions easier than the questions they asked.
IKR!!
@Stephen Docherty Devoid of quality? Objectively, it is of high quality. Now musicality that is more subjective!
@Stephen Docherty wasn't really relevant to the conversation just seems like hating
Same for the (Swedish maybe?) guy that makes the marble machines. Can’t remember the channel name.
You know you're a good artist when everyone can explain your trades and secrets, but still cant even begin to duplicate your magic.
Damn that's such a beautiful way to put it
Exactly.
Wow, that is so true!
Yeah. Sure, you can explain what he did, but not how come he chose to do it
TRUTH HAS BEEN SPOKEN by the comment above 👏 👏 👏
Listening to those voices with headphones is just so immersive
I know right!!! I specifically got high end headphones to do exactly this.
Listening to him high with high quality headphones is even more of an experience
no need for drugs to enjoy him
Just gonna echo the comments here getting studio headphones changed so much for me lol
Multiple musicians identified here...jk the dude is awesome.
Jacob simultaneously makes me want to be better and also quit.
most relatable comment ive read in a minute
Yeah I also started an acapella youtube channel because of him and also wanna quit because of him😶
@@sdfjhfjksdh i subscribed :)
Musik Avatar Ethan wow thank you!!
same here
My brother (a musician) heard my video from downstairs and yelled “IS THAT JACOB COLLIER?”
😂
I love this XD
my boyfriend (a singer) did the exact same thing!
if i had a roommate that did that i would have been like FUCK SHIT HIDE IT HIDE IT HIDE IT!!!!!!!!
Musicians all crush on Collier like he's Justin Beiber or something, haha
Let's face it, Jacob Collier is also just a really good Jazz name.
Rather bland
There's also a Jacob Koller on TH-cam who is an epic epic jazz piano player. Have a listen to his La La Land medley.
so true
Maybe if you have the intials, J.C, you were born to play jazz, like John coltrane and jack costanzo.
@@florentmillanmusic9283 and Jesus Christ of course
My experience with JC lots of times is: I listen to one of his songs for the first time and I may not be in love with it right away, some of them may even sound weird... but the more i listen to them, hear the details, the more I "study" that song, the more I fall inlove with it! Jacob is trully amazing! And so are you, Charles!!! cheers! Great video!
Pedro Lopes that's a really good way to put it. Part of the brilliance of his music is its depth and complexity, all of which you just can't comprehend and appreciate with superficial listening.
It's the Gorillaz effect
same here!//
Yeah I agree. There are definitely some that I love right away, but listening to it multiple times or even Jacob playing it in a different setting (e.g. live) really does bring your attention to the depth and genius of his music.
Same! Watching the logic session breakdowns of his songs made me discover so many details that I didn't really hear right away. All of his songs are so amazing:)
I don't think Collier is pretentious, It's more that he's so excited to use all the tools in his toolbox that it comes across as showy or ostentatious, ie "hey look at me and all these off-the-wall chord progressions" even if that is NOT his intention (he seems pretty humble from the videos I've seen). He annoyed me at first I'll admit but anyone who is willing to do live-streams where they reveal their trade secrets simply bc they want to pass on knowledge, for FREE is more than ok in my book.
That’s true, but his newer stuff is starting to move away from that. As he matures, that show off-y stuff will go away, and he will use all of that incredible technique and knowledge to make something really meaningful. Pretty much all amazingly talented prodigies take that path.
My boyfriend says that too, he said he'd love to see him live (we bought tickets for next year!) but when he listens to his records they're too "busy" for him and he says he's a bit tired afterwards, and that other jazzy stuff he listens to and enjoys more are more simplistic. Personally I understand how one can be a bit exhausted after some of these songs packed with stuff but to me listening multiple times and experiencing and unlocking all of these layers in my mind, focusing on something else each time I listen, is what makes Jacob's music exciting to me. I love when music is more "complicated" because I experience sth else every time I listen. My boyfriend says, like you, that it does come across as show-off and too much for the sake of too much, but I agree with you that he's just excited to use all his tools and add more and more. Maybe the more is not the merrier, and I'm sure I would enjoy a stripped down version or potential path of his just as much, but for now I couldn't be enjoying myself more. I love how complex and busy his songs are, but I can't say "I wouldn't want it any other way". Tbh I'm sure I'll enjoy whatever he makes haha.
Who said he was pretentious? That's not the vibe I get from him I get a Vibe of like a giddy kid but I have to say his music doesn't really do much for me other than maybe a couple song but it's nothing I'm going back to. But still I appreciate his talent he's doing some really cool things for jazz
@@nikibronson133 He's getting there, still full of youth and hope and joy. Give it time. Even with all it's depth, his music is a little boring. But yeah the guy is definitely talented
His voice is whack. All the instruments, arrangements, and creativity... but as soon as he sings, its laughable.
i (a music student) went to jacob's concert in my city last year and when he asked if anyone in the audience was a musician I KID YOU NOT like 90% of us raised our hands. it was wild.
Same
I was there.
Well, there is a bit of fault in that. If you only appeal to musicians, you are missing a point about music. It is not to be shared only amongst musicians... Theres a very big space between commercial/product music and extremely intricate music. But , in my personal opinion, both extremes fall into error. Yes, you are a genius musician with incredible knowledge and perfect pitch and talent, but the joy of music is to communicate something that people can understand or follow, hell, even remember. I don't like going to a show and not remembering a single note out of the show, or at least a melody I can sing. Most memorable music that lives through the ages have a good balance of simple and complicated. Top of my mind, hear Dance Macabre by Camile Saint Saens, and you'll remember at least 3 or 4 melodies of the piece. I've tried hearing Jacobs songs or arrangaments and it never does it for me. I appreciate him as a theorist and because of the extreme musical gymnastics that he acomplishes, but his music , I just cannot like it, I've tried. To finish, If I held a 5000 person gig, and everyone is a musician... well, I wouldn't say that's good. It means that I am failing to communicate with the average listener
Well , If you have more knowledge or are atuned to slightly more sophisticated attempts at making music, you re obviously gonna be way MORE excited by Jacobs music.
My mom never studied music but LOVED Monk, Stravinsky, Miles , Debussy etc for the avoidance of convention while still making beautiful music.
Jacob breaks my brain.
Love your channel. :)
There‘s a crack in everything, and that is how the light gets in. 🙂
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Bandrew!! Wow, cool to see you here
It is funny because When I heard about him from my friends, I was actually surprised why they are feeling like he is some sort of god or something? Even after listening some of Jacob's music...it didn't impressed me. Because I actually understood the theories...most of it before even hearing about him from my friends.
I feel like we all know someone who kinda looks like Jacob Collier
Jordi el Nino (if you don't know who that is, don't look it up; I don't want your innocence to be ruined because of me)
shottiez jordi enp
I thought he was quadeca lol
Oh my god :0
What the heck tru
part of what i’ve always rather loved about jacob collier is that when he talks about music, he never talks about what he’s doing as if it’s the greatest thing in the world, but he talks about music itself and what it does as if it is. he is a humble breath of fresh air that’s just having fun and helping other people have fun, too
Too true:)).
It just feels like something cold and clinical written by a nerd sitting in a cold basement. Like yeah dude is probably a musical theory genius, but not a creative or soulful, or even tasteful one lol.
@@Anewevisual Listen t o his rendition of "Bridge Over Troubled Water" if u think that s soul-less you probably are referring to shoes
Adam Neely: You can’t reharmonize Stevie Wonder
Jacob: Hold my strawberry slurpie
Hold my teabag
Hold my other croc
Hold my 600-track Logic project.
hold my magic pants
Just hold me.
I love how eloquent this guy is when he's explaining and expressing his perspectives. Guy has some charisma man
Charles really playing the long game: do a bunch of pop stuff to bring in the Normies and hit them with JC lol
Gotta reel ‘em in and then when they least expect it... BAM Jacob Collier
conradthe2 yessssss
Lol Harry Styles and stuff lol *5mins later* so Jacob colliers Moon river cover
Started with memes...
Started with memes...
Fun fact, Jacob has not only perfect pitch and can recognise both tones and semi tones, but he can also recognise microtones, insane right
He’s a genenius
Yeah... that's perfect pitch...
@@nikibronson133 not all perfect pitch is absolute absolute jacob perfect pitch
@@rbdel absolute picth is the scientific name for perfect pitch.....
@@nikibronson133 he has a different type of perfect pitch, somehow it’s better then mine. I also have perfect pitch but hearing some of the notes he makes boggles my brain, bro is making notes that didnt even exist before then
Jacob: Does anything
Musicians: Write that down, write that down!
Ben Chesworth I'm still waiting for a transcription on the hallelujah livestream. Geeeee
He’s probably an alien music prodigy experiment that got out of hand after gaining self awareness and they just sent him down to earth because they couldn’t control him anymore.
Can he do 200 push ups
naki naki yes
HAHAHAHAH so true!
Obligatory “This guy is like, obnoxiously good at music” quote here
This guy listens to jacob
Adam Neely quote
Hehe it's funny how all music nerd channels have the same fans.
Ben Schrock yeah it’s actually kinda heartwarming that we have a community here
BASS
Charles: I personally haven’t put in the time to understand harmony that well: Also Charles: We can use these four large hadron chords combined with a double hexahedron tide pod to create some really cool harmonies.
I am just a (re-)commencing composer, but one MAJOR impact Jacob has had on my composing is him explaining that: there are no WRONG notes, it is just a matter of what you play NEXT.
This made me start looking more chromatically at voice leading, as the tension created by a stray chord or melody can always be resolved nicely into a diatonic harmony, and it opened the door to shift keys, modes and root over some chords I had never considered before based on the music theory I had studied so far.
That no wrong notes … what u play next’ comes from Miles” ask Herbie
@@jayclarke9611 Well I heard it from Jacob. Am quite sure it has been said even before Miles. Doesn’t matter who was first really, does it?
right?? I wonder whether he is familiar with early (medieval and renaissance) polyphony wich have wildly interesting voice progressions....machaut, dufay, gesualdo.......
@@donbusu it was NOT EVEN CLOSE to formulaic and bound by rules
Please review city pop! It's a style of 70s/80s Japanese pop music that's often heavily jazz influenced. In recent years, the genre has had a resurgence on TH-cam. Lots of people agree that the "Holy Trinity" of city pop is
1. Plastic Love by Mariya Takeuchi
2. Stay with Me by Miki Matsubara
3. 4 AM by Taeko Ohnuki (which is probably the jazziest out of the three; I would start with this one!)
Thank you for this! I've just found some me some new music to dive into!
City pop is iconic.
I must have listened to Plastic Love 1000 + times when I 1st heard it and I'm glad I randomly stumbled upon your comment because Taeko Ohnuki.... wowowowowow.
@@tamvibes No problem! (;
@@thejamiebodyssey9496 Yeah lol I think most TH-cam people started with Plastic Love. Taeko Ohnuki is amazing! Her SUNSHOWER album is an masterpiece IMO
Why can’t we as the human species look at a person who is more talented than ourselves and just be ecstatic that we live in the same world as they do? Why do we have to hate - them or ourselves? I as so thrilled to know there are people like Jacob in my world in my time. And I get to enjoy him whenever I want because of the miracle of the internet. The majority of people in Mozart’s day never even knew he existed let alone were able to hear and appreciate his genius while he was alive.
Yazzzz!!!! It's an honor to be on the planet at the same time as this kid!
Because humans have opinions and like to state them
Because we are self centered beings
I just don’t like his music. It’s sounds like boring trite
@@alebecher5056 sure, but instead of sharing said opinions people tend to rub in your face their own and how much you are not correct for not having theirs
jacob is so talented I get angry. And he's such a nice guy that I get angry that I'm angry.
holy shit i forgot i even said this 1k likes damn
😂 And I'm angry that you're angry to JC. how can it be?! Ugh there are some angry issues here 😂
@@viktorija4485 indeed there are
His goofy voice brings him back down to earth.
And what does he do with the talent? Where's the art? It's all wanking.
Underated comment
I must thank YOU if I discovered him, when you talked about the beginning of "Time alone with you" I IMMEDIATELY fell in love😭
If you just found out about Jacob, you're in for a treat, buddy!! :) check his channel, his spotify, absorve everything he does!
@@1pepituh yes!! And can i add, his Instagram! His ig lives with other artists are a thing of beauty
when was this? perhaps i missed it
Every time I listen to him I'm thinking "wow this is impressive, the harmony is so rich, what a talent" but then the songs never actually pop into my head outside of that.
You forgot to mention how cute he is.
Like look at him he’s like a small can of beans.
THIS
Jacob fans are called Jaco beans
YESSSSS
He kinda looks like sid from toystory
as a bi man he makes me constantly question if i rly like girls at all
He talked to our choir via zoom for an hour or two and I loved how much you could tell he loved his music. He made me fall in love with music again.
12:17 Don't mind me, just putting this here so I could go back to it
Sounds like JRPG game music
god I love this so much
Anyone know any similar songs?
@Courtney Voltz Thank you very much for your reply. I will sure check out all of it :)
@Courtney Voltz Omg! dammn hell, this is amazing, i added bunch of his work to my playlist. thank you for helping me discover such an amazing artist!
10:35 "and you can probably think of a lot of songs you've heard it in."
*plays hella complex Jazz chords*
Yeah uhh... sure of course... definitely
Jazz musicians talking to Jazz musicians, I guess
pretty sure i heard it in either toy story or blues clues and a bunch of other songs that i dont remember the name of
Complex voicings, common progression
10:23 to 10:27 to my layman's untrained ear sounds like something from Bobby Caldwell's - What You Won't Do For Love
@@IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIlIlllIl yeah me too some chords he played is like you got a friend in me i think
Sometimes when I’m tired of practicing I just let my hands play some random chords and melodies that don’t have anything to do with each other... most of the time it sounds extremely alien... but at least I can pretend to be a jazz pianist for a while.
😂😂😂
Sometimes I just play random keys for the same reason
I do that too! I just press the sustain pedal until all the notes fade out. It's really comforting
That’s jazz babay!
is there any other way?
I'm obsessed by Charles Cornell
Ur high
I’m offended, extremely racist comment, report it and move on.
With*
Charles is a cutie. It's understandable
"All I Need" has been all I need for the last few weeks.
I’ve only listened to it 85 times
YES
J M 100 times for me
J M despite it being Jacobs simplest song, it’s my least favorite. I really like Jacobs crazy chords and theory
@@CouchEconomyTX I mean its not exactly 'simple' per say, just more poppy. Definitely still microtonal/weird harmony and other bizarre stuff.
The video makes me think of this Bill Evans quote: "I do not agree that the layman’s opinion is less of a valid judgement of music than that of the professional musician. In fact I would often rely more on the judgement of a sensitive layman than that of a professional since the professional because of his constant involvement with the mechanics of music must fight to preserve the naivety that the layman already possesses.”
musician doesn't equal artist. most of jc's music reminds me of owl city covering frank zappa.
@@ClintLock1 spot on. Jacob Collier is a genius musician, but a terrible artist.
@@yesok2522 i dont get it
@@friedrichperez638 essentially his grasp and ability to explore music theory and instruments is excellent but he writes lame songs.
That’s why he’s music isn’t mainstream
Jacob has the uncanny ability to make me go “huh, I’ve never thought of that” basically every time he talks about music. I was just watching a master class he did and he brought up chord extensions past the 13th and I was genuinely shocked that I’d never heard of that before
He does that? Nuts!
Every time I listen to one of Jacob’s songs, I as a musician, always hear a new legitimately sick musical concept that I’ve never understood. I then go to understand that concept and why it’s so awesome. When I finally get back to that same song to gush about how good it is, I find another amazing concept that I’ve never understood that supersedes the first one. It never stops. Keep in mind that I’m a 13 year multi instrumentalist, with perfect pitch and a good ear, that came from a musical family. Jacob is not that much younger than me (I’m 28). His music engages your musical brain and the emotional side of the music within you from the singing and instrumental sides in harmony. For people like Herbie Hancock, Quincy Jones, Steve Vai, and hundreds of other big name artists that are good friends of Jacob and can gush about him even more than I do, that is no laughing matter. Just listen to Moon River.
Perfectly said…I’ve studied at a pretty high level and can somewhat understand Jacobs concepts…kinda pissed he gives away how to do reharms live improvised cause I do that well …he showed it to kids like an open book test, giving away the secrets of it…lol
I can appreciate the technical aspect of Collier's music, but I understand why people sometimes call it "Disney music in a weird time signature."
I’ve never heard that
Yeah, it's Disney on shrooms
Actually I've found that every non-jazz listener perceives ALL jazz harmony like movie music
@@santotiago80 i guess that speaks to the enduring influence of jazz in music
Agree, the kid is so talented but his taste still needs to develop a lot I think. He’s too focused on what he COULD do musically, if often comes out as a jumble- once he walks it back I’m excited to hear the result.
“This dude’s younger than I am, and I hate myself.”
Yup. That right there. That sums it up for me 🙃😂
For me it went “this dude’s younger than I am, and,” * ad plays for 15 seconds * “...I hate myself”
I think I'm actually younger than him, but I still feel this
This is so sad guys. This may even approach psychopathology. The more natural response is to just admire what he is capable of. I feel not in the least devaluated in my musicianship by him. It‘s more that he is an endless inspiration.
Achenar Myst I’m not sure whether you have credentials to diagnose psychopathology (or psychopathy) - but I do know that nearly everyone I know has similar feelings when they see successful people who are younger than they are. I think it’s especially common in people who were pushed to be the best at something (academics, music, sports) who see someone effortlessly doing something that they had to work tirelessly and be pushed toward. I think it’s another symptom of “gifted child syndrome” more so than psychopathy.
Jacob is one of those people who's so talented that it makes you angry.
Graham Kristensen Best explanation in my opinion. I feel extremely jealous of his talent and kind of get discouraged when I listen to his music but at the same time it encourages me to get better 🤷🏻♂️
...and is such a nice guy you get angry that you're angry.
Everyone in our jazz band can't stand him. He has such an ego, he was in an interview and was talking about "I personally like %63 swing, here's 65 and heres 63" he's honestly a very white jazz musician lmao
@@yamiii So glad I'm not the only one who can't stand him.
@@Gysklar I absolutely can't stand him. I appreciate that he is IMMENSELY talented, far beyond what I could every hope to be, but I find him super egotistical and the music he makes is almost unlistenable to me
12:17 holy crap dude, this is amazing!
If you made that into a full song, I'd be looping it
He's helped me realize I'll never be as good as him
Just follow your own aesthetic and you're golden.
Mood.
Advantage of his is being born and raised in a musical family with hella pros.
Iszy Butler What’s most important is that you tell a story, your story in a way that is authentic and effective. Jacob is amazing in his technical ability but other than being sonically rich and affecting, sometimes leaves me emotionally cold.
@@vickiburns1642 I can definitely agree to an extent. I've never really felt an emotional connection with his songs. Don't get me wrong, I think Jacob collier is one of the most musically talented people of this generation, but his music has never really touched me emotionally. Thanks for the advice! btw, I looked at you channel and I just want to say, you have an amazing voice!
alternative title: charles cornell fanboys for nearly seventeen minutes
His voicing is so good also the chord progression
The biggest thing about Jacob that allows him to be so outside and bizarre yet utterly accessible is that he does everything with a palpable and obvious sense of joy. You feel like he KNOWS who he is, and just accepts it utterly, with no arrogance; and you sense that his life's mission is to try to channel and distribute his great gifts to us as easily as possible, always packaged in that warmth and good humor. He is so self-effacing and disarming personally that he could play practically anything and that smile would make it OK. The polyrhythmic approach to groove and microtonal stuff derail me a little until I get used to it, but I'm so awash in love for his harmonic choices that it just doesn't matter.
He's just an allround ethereal being. Beaming harmony into our lives
I love this description
Hes just human tho 😯
“That guy is like, really obnoxiously good at music” -Adam Neely
There's always someone
If it’s not a 5 year old Asian kid, it’s JC
@@aboz8649 Who actually kinda looks like a 5-year-old Asian Lol.
repetition legitimises
@The Stupid will Inherit the Earth Guess you'll be inheriting the Earth then?
Never heard of this kid until now. Well, rabbit hole, here I come.
Have fun
Its an intense ride
A rabbit hole that opens up into a bright sunny resolution
Ha.. I am with you!
Checking in Paul, how are you doing? Staying hydrated?
That improv at 12:15 is fantastic. I could listen to an entire album of that sort of thing
All musicians everywhere: *heavy breathing in G half sharp*
Your point about the "feel" of music is interesting because it's something I've always thought but could never articulate. Even beyond jazz and rhythm instruments, if you watch a professional orchestra and a youth orchestra playing the same piece, often the professional version has a better "feel". The youth orchestra might be able to play it note perfect, but often the players haven't been exposed to enough music to understand the feel of the music, and it sounds flat.
God knows that's how I played back in high school.
I just checked Jacob out because of Charles and he's one gifted artist
A) He is
B) Nice user pick. Jellal from Fairy Tail, right? At least I think that's his name. It has been a bit.
you're everywhere but Jacob's channel SMH
Omgomgomg
Is the comment god gonna go comment on Jacob's
Channel
And now I have to fight the comment god
I have 200 comments in Jacob's but
I think I need more to get a chance with this guy
Holy frikk
I'm so jealous that you can still hear his stuff for the first time
The first Jacob video I saw was "The Flintstones" - the second video he uploaded to TH-cam. Instantly blown away. His ability to create incredibly complex music and yet make it emotionally accessible to every human is otherworldly. I truly think he is the Mozart of our time. He wears his eccentricity well as well. His albums are like the other great albums in recorded history - every time you take the time to listens critically, you hear something new.
12:17-12:48 This sounds so much like the kind of relaxing/emotional track you'd hear in a JRPG or a Metroidvania/platformer like Ori and the Blind Forest or Hollow Knight. Which makes sense, given how often video game composers write outside of typical genre conventions and experiment with harmonies and instrumentation.
'If a chord sounds good, it probably has a name"
-Jacob Collier (i think)
If it is a chord, it has a name - most multiple names depending on context. Even the ugly sounding ones!
b♭sus7#13aug5
is this even a real chord is did I make it up
@@equaius893 brb boutta grow another set of arms to check
Equaius i’m so terrified of that it’d be bad enough as a b flat sus7 but then for it to be augmented? no thank you.
Even if it doesn’t sound good, it has a name lmao
Even though I’m not a huge fan of his music and I find his videos a bit strange, I still think he’s extremely talented and I greatly appreciate his creativity
I won't deny that Jacob's music is super challenging to produce and require a lot of talent. That said, I can't say I'm that much of a fan. My ears kinda glaze over all of the intricacies and complexities put into the songs, and it's not necessarily what I'm looking for in music.
True, i feel the same groups like him and Dirty Loops its taken to the extreme. It's not necessarily ear pleasing, unless being highly autistic perhaps.
I think that when he applies his genius to incorporating his complex harmonies and galaxy-brain understanding of music into writing something catchy and accessible, the result is astounding and really enjoyable to listen to. But more recently, starting with his album Djesse and moving forward, he’s leaned more and more towards just experimenting with these crazy ideas and, since he’s already successful, hasn’t really worked as hard to make these ideas accessible to a wider audience. As a result, it’s just harder to enjoy these more recent songs because they’re really more explorations of harmony than they are catchy music.
I don’t fault him for that since I’m sure he’s having tons of fun finding his musical voice, and tons of people dig that surreal sound, so he doesn’t have to worry about losing his fanbase, but it’s just too complex and esoteric for me personally, and probably for a lot of people who like his mind-blowing but still grounded earlier works.
I agree, it's actually work to listen to. I love a great steakhouse but usually a burger is just fine.
@@SeraphsWitness yeah why play chess when u can play checkers
I don't think Jacob's music is something that you just casually listen to though. I find it refreshing in the way that if you sit down and really listen and becoming engrossed in it, the depth is mindblowing and it's just so unlike any other artist out there, many of which are focused on selling music with catchy tunes. He is clearly just focussed on his passion instead and this is what makes me smile when I hear his music.
I am severely jealous of Jacob Collier and that's why I hate him and that's why I love him.
This. This.
same
Ahaha same
When he mentioned chorus and mentioned alto, I felt acknowledged🥺✨ but yes we sang hideaway by Jacob collier in chorus and the harmonies were a nice change from singing the same note to highlight the melody that we usually never get to sing
Lmao all the cool kids singing counterpoint melodies in tenor
There are a few TH-cam videos acknowledging the issue of alto voicing. As a bass, I feel for you guys. Also, I’m glad I’m not an alto.
His logic sessions are super informative. Giving a transparent look at his music production is probably better than any online course for production
Jacob makes me cry in agony with a big smile in my face with a heart full of joy at the same time.
I’m up at 1 o clock in the morning in Ireland but it’s worth it for a nice dose of Charles Cornell
Proftom channel same in France
dylan foley yup the ra indeed lad
Tiocfaidh ar la
Jazz is to musicians, as what tech-house is to DJs. It's music that speaks to that particular part of one's soul. I love musicians geeking out on other musicians. What a community musicians are, hey? Love it, appreciate the love from musician to musician.
His understanding of harmony is unrivaled. His music stands to prove how little we have explored about harmony, and how much more is left uncharted. It takes a lot of courage and passion to explore beyond the conventional. Jacob Collier is truly a once in a generation genius.
Like tigran's rythym
His remixes sound like too much of everything, like he has al the notes in the world playing at the same time on different instruments. Also Jazz... 😖 for me he ruined perfectly balanced songs, like adding too much of salt to a meal. How he sounds good to others is truly incomprehensible to me.
id argue Cardi B can rival his understanding of harmony
@@chlorinelori1064
Take a look at the scores of his music. Then you'll understand why musicians are raving about Collier. Maybe it does not suit your taste, but please understand literally the first thing about music. It is entirely subjective.
@@TheReal4th Hence she stated her opinion, or her dislike of his music. You could be the most genius musician in the world, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to like your music.
Jacob is a genius. a phenomenon. a wizard. I can't get past the singing voice unfortunately. I LOVE his instrumental work and massively repesct him.
@WEEWOO yea hes a genius in relation to music theory, but hes not unique in his own collaboration of unique pieces
If hes such a genius why is his music generic sounding
@@aohjii because it's too complex for you to understand how his pieces are different lmao
@@sirthursday6159 true music is true soul expression, true music is felt through the whole body, whole being. not something to be mentally understood and dissected. hence what i meant by lack of creativity. Is he empty inside? does he have no soul? thats what it sounds like
@@aohjii shut up with the gatekeeping
@@aohjii exactly. As AI comes into play more and more I suspect it will churn out arbitrary degrees of complexity. But if you want to hit on an emotional level, that takes something intangible, to convey suffering or lived experience.
His modulation into G half sharp minor in his “In the Bleak Midwinter” arrangement is legendary
oh no i did that song in one of my advanced choirs in middle school and i was an alto and the harmonies were wack
I didn't know I needed this video till it appeared in my notifications, JC is so amazing ahhhHHHH
WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IKR
i was able to meet him and see him live in concert when he came to california and it was one of the greatest moments of my life 😭💕
What I love about Jacob is he's obviously so insanely talented but he's not snobby about the fundamental joy of creating music. He made me - just an amateur - feel like my expression through music is just as valid as anyone elses. That's a super cool feeling!
Jacob’s a great musician, he’s been gifted with a huge musical talent. I saw him live few months ago. I just want to point out my opinion about some of his work, what he does is great, absolute madness, the production, the arrangement, everything’s just great. Only thing I feel is sometimes the purpose of the music and the meaning behind it, it just goes away in this 200 + harmonies going on. Don’t get me wrong again, I love Jacob. I just feel as a listener sometimes you don’t really want the music to be so deviated to it’s root. Just my opinion
Absolutely agree!!! Way overrated in my opinion, there are milions of intelligent young musicians around the world, it s just they dont all try to sell their music on youtube to a rising style to get popular. Playing with harmonics is also very simpler with todays technology. Just saying, undoubtedly clever guy, but nothing that jaw-dropping. Average musical theory sold as complicated elite music to the big market of youtube, just for success.
@@fedegwagwa lul
I feel like the level of emotion expressed in that depth of harmony is what attracts me so much. Take that last moving section in Moon River:
There is a constant rise in tuning, harmonies going crazy, but yet it still feels like a normal buildup to the climax. I never felt overwhelmed in that moment, but knew the complexity of it around me. I feel like the emotions carried in that complexity does a lot for musicians that aspire to create similar emotional responses. Can totally understand why it wouldnt suit other people.
Yeah, I think his music is very personal to himself and sometimes it's hard to hear what he's getting at. But I love that too, it's a real special kind of music he's making
I felt the same way originally but then I feel he evolved, and the album closer of Djesse Vol.2 touched me deeply with its simplicity, so I think he understands the balance of technicality and emotional connections just right.
I heard "he won't hold you" for the first time (and usually I don't repeat songs because I tend to ruin it for myself) but I played that song AT LEAST five different times in a row. I was mesmerized. Jacob Collier is...a musical magician.
The things that song did to me the first time I heard it…
I really like Jacob's music. It's really interesting and feels different, yet familiar. However, I feel like the choice to break free of usual chords progression and harmonies is that there is an almost constant tension and rarely (or just less frequently) a resolution of said tension in his pieces. Not saying that it's necessarily wrong, that's part of the charm and fun of it all, but it is an unusual feeling that sometimes gets inconfortable, though never unbearably so (as opposed to straight dissonance for example).
Actually most of the notes in his chords do resolve, but in a "less powerful" way then what we're used to. Ho rarely uses resolution like V-I, but every note moves in a really thoughtful way that resolve its previous tension, yet keeping a general tension due to the creation of new dissonances
The one problem I think he has, other than his voice, which as a classically trained singer, I find a bit odd, is that he usually can't stop himself from going a bit wild, sometimes you have to reign it back, if you listen to moon River, it doesn't have a cohesive structure, which makes for a stressful listening experience.
@@bobajob13 I actually agree on when he goes wild, I struggle to consume it, but I disagree about moonriver. I think he got the balance perfect. There were sections of almost complete resolution, and some slightly wild section. It was both stimulating, yet familiar and recognisable!
@@bobajob13 yes, it does feel a lot stressful and anxiety inducing
as someone with perfect pitch, jacobs music is the most satisfying music I’ve ever listened to. Stuff like You And I and Moon River are some of my favorite songs of all time because of how satisfying his harmonies are. That’s just me though, I also love when music is crazy and has a lot of stuff going on at once.
what i love about him is that he makes the complex harmony that he uses seem easy, like i can learn to understand this sort of stuff myself. that sort of influence is inspirational, the sort of thing a future generation of musicians would aspire to
He's an interesting one for me. I find him extremely impressive at a technical level, but I almost never actually enjoy his music.
Jacob Goodman strongly agree.
Yeah I agree. I always click it since everyone talks about it but I can’t seem to get down with it
Yeah he's too just too spicy
my GOD i thought i was the only one lol
Too true
The best thing about him is how much he loves the music. Like IN LOVE with it 😂 There are few people it's been so obvious with, in my experience. Paul Gilbert comes to mind, the man loves his axe and he's always gonna play it with a smile
Buncha people fall in love with music, dude is not the only one lol
@@khoivinh3402 no, but the enthusiasm my dude. People say they love things but how does that compare? I love cars as far as I'm aware but I also recall an article about a guy who'd went out of his way to have sex with all these different cars.. whatever that means. Clearly, I don't have the same enthusiasm for the automobile as that guy. Some people love things better. If you see one couple cuddling and the other on their respective phones minding their own business, which would you assume is a more loving relationship? Lots of people love music. Lots of people are in love with music. But are they like, soulmates?
@@aesop2733 I believe he is not the only one, so
Jacob Collier is the first of a new generation of musician combining strong understanding of composition, pitch and groove with positivity, humility and an eagerness to share. The future of music is brilliant!
Care to share other musicians you appreciate?
@@horseyyyyy check out Esperanza Spalding, Lea Bertrucci and Robert Glasper if you haven’t already.
Maybe the one that you know of like there are other people who have this level of skill just not everybody meets the light of day and there are other people in genres of music that you probably don't like because Jacobs genre is jazz but people in hip-hop or pop or R&B or rock and roll that do the same thing but for their music. Jacob is undeniably impressive But let's not act As if he's some savior of music when No one said there was anything wrong with music Now it's just music you don't like
@@nikibronson133 I appreciate all music but improvisation is dear to my heart, however let me know who your favourites are and if I haven’t heard of them I will give them a listen with an open mind
@@lavatar3562 i wouldn't necessarily classify Jacob as an improv jazz artist... and I was mainly referring to popular music of all genres. Just because it may not be your favorite doesn't mean that it's somehow less worth, valuable or intensive as this or that somehow Jacob could make it better is all.
On a personal note I like all music so its hard to narrow it down. Right now I'm listing to Parliament-Funkadelic. World class musicians of a different genre
I am so impressed with him, while at the same time I often feel very little on an emotional level. It is like whatever emotions he brings forward with his music, they are too abstract or too subjective to actually make anything happen in me. Other than sheer awe of his abilities. Well, I guess that is a feeling :D
I have yet to actually finish a song by him. Like, putting it on, and letting it play until the timer reaches the end. But I think I have seen almost everything with him. Seen all videos, but only half of each? Yeah, that is about right.
So he initially draws me in during a given song, but then I am off again to a new fix of being drawn in by him. Over and over again.
I dunno. Mad respect. But I enjoy him from a pure technical pov, and I will never just listen to him for longer periods of time.
When he mentioned altos in a choir I was like dang we getting called out real hard 😭 loved this break down! You get my subscribe Charles!
10:39
Charles: You can probably say thousands of songs you heard these chords in
Me: Literally can’t even say one...
I thought he was gonna play I V vi IV but I guess not
it kinda sounds like 'ain't misbehavin'
Nate of all trades agreed
to me it sounded exactly like that one that goes "you are the sunshine of my life / and i will always be around" (i forget the exact name but it was freakishly similar)
I hear a lil of Charlie Brown in that lol
I just have to say on a side note that I just love hearing Charles play. He has such a beautiful, unique sound, it just warms up my heart
Jacob’s music is definitely not my cup of tea, but I find his talent unbelievable and incredibly inspiring. That’s what’s kinda cool about him: I don’t have to gravitate to or love what he creates, but I’d be a total dumbass to not recognize that he is probably the greatest living musician on the entire planet. I mean…seriously….who the f*** is better at music than he is? Lol.
I can only enjoy the arrangements, which truly are better than the originals.
it's funny that anyone would ever feel down for a moment when they see this young person striving to be the best they can at something they love, just because they are so incredibly gifted. I've always felt ecstatic and so grateful that our world has another great musical mind that will be remembered for hundreds of years.
The June Lee videos blew my mind the first time I watched them all. It made sense, but not at the same time and as a sample-based producer, it helped me tap into melody creation and even better sample chops. Thanks for covering Jacob’s phenomenal music.
you’re so great charles
Q: “Why do musicians love Jacob Collier?”
A: Because Jacob is the musician’s musician.
Okay I'm coming back to this video. I'm in a Berklee 5 week program and Jacob came as a guest to our class and taught us some amazing things. Even made a song in 1 mintues that is better than anything I've made. He also said that piano isn't real, just physics.
Jacob s right bout physics , I self taught myself piano using physics and space relations…and close to perfect pitch …I also listened to McCoy Tyner, Bud Powell Larry Young , Chick and Herbie and both Keith’s around the clock and practiced 6 hrs a day.
Collier s a friggin genius
Them damn screen shots of his Logic sessions just stressed me out....🤣🤣🤣
I'm still in fetal position..
Go watch the stream dude. Guys a goddamn machine. He makes decisions edits cuts and pans at the speed of light. Hes just otherwordly.
The thing about him is fearlessness, breaking theory boundaries.
Oh jeez that bit at 12:16 was really great. Instantly could hear the difference between that and playing familiar progressions, and it sounded really pretty.
There's absolutely zero denying that Jacob is probably one of the most skilled and talented musicians living, and certainly in this current internet age. I just can't get into most of the sounds he makes. His arrangements just don't gel with my personal sensibilities and I REALLY am underwhelmed by his vocal timbre.
I'm glad he's around and pushing the boundaries of music but I just can't get into him.
He's an absolute prodigy and that he's a musical genius is pretty much impossible to deny. He's plausibly on the same level as Mozart in terms of sheer natural gifts. But I'm also of the perspective that while his technical grasp of music is both astounding and fascinating, he doesn't tend to write music that I have much desire to listen to. I think the basic problem is that he essentially grew up in a music room and has never had much of a life outside of it, so he doesn't bring much in terms of emotional authenticity to his music.
@@AlexG-bc7ji - I have to disagree with you in your comparison to Mozart.
Jacob is still a relatively new phenomena in music. He has put forward a lot of interesting stuff and ideas.
But comparing him to Mozart, I don't feel makes sense. Mozart, as well as other famous composers from hundreds of years ago, were on another level.
It shows when you learn a lot about them, and what they did with their music. And how good they were at it.
Mozart was a prodigy from a very young age, of course thanks to his father molding him, as well as him having a talent and interest in music.
When you see someone professional analyze his music and explain what he did in e.g. 40th symphony, movement 1, amazement is probably what you will feel. It's not just an amazing piece of music, it is also extremely well crafted and has a fair share of more complex theory behind it.
We can also take a look at some of his operas, which usually lasts 2-3 hours, and are undeniable masterpieces in that category.
Heck, he even did 12 variations on what we know as "Twinkle twinkle, little star" which is just amazing. Insanely creative.
And then there's all the accounts of how much of a musical mastermind he was, perfect pitch, the ability to listen to a piece just once and then remember it and write it down, note by note, and so on.
And the list can go on.
He, as well as other famous composers from back then, were on another level in terms of musical gifts and talents. And there's a good reason why.
In all fairness, I think it's first and foremost a weird comparison to compare someone composing jazzy music in 2020 to classical composers the classical (or romantic) period.
But even if we were to, I'd say that Jacob has not earned such a spot yet just because he has done a lot of interesting and unique stuff with music, and brought some interesting ideas to the table, regarding music theory. Not yet, that is. He might (and probably will) get a spot as one of the most inventive musicians of the 21st century.
I'd still say, that comparing him to classical composers seems weird though.
His voice might be the biggest roadblock to getting into his music. It sounds like all the enunciation of the lyrics he sings is coming from deep inside his lungs, instead of from his mouth, in addition to the fact that he sounds like he's swallowing his voice, if that makes any sense.
John Paul Hare No, I‘m afraid it doesn‘t make any sense to me 😁
Which is understandable. Different people look for different things in music. For me, I literally seek out music that pushes the boundaries of what I have heard harmonically and rhythmically, so his music is basically all I could ask for for a person like me. It just depends on what types of things appeal to you.
"The vast majority of musicians are hooked"
I don't think Charles has ever seen The Shitposting of Jazz To Come
Lmao
hahahahahahaa i thought the same. I love him though
That group is always like hOT tAkE
Lmaooooo true. Ppl have been goofing on Jacob in that group since I joined back when it had about 200 people in it
Lol Jacob is probably the most controversial subject on there, and I've seen some shit in that group.
Apart from everything that has been said, I'd add the fact that Jacob is an extremely nice person.
I have never ever encountered an artist of a world-class level who would be that available for having a talk and sharing his knowledge.
He's incredibly easy-going, and he clearly maintains great relationships with both his fans and colleagues.
I was at his concert in Moscow, Russia a couple of years ago, and I remember he literally spent more than an hour and a half after the event talking with everyone who wanted to have a chat.
That improvisation you did at 12:15 was truly one of the coolest things I've ever heard
There are no comments for me to read while watching this. why did I decide to arrive early?
Lol i guess
Well, thanks for providing for us late bloomers
i thought about exactly this and waited a whole day. was not disappointed
for those of you in the comments saying he’s always doing too much without emotion, I implore you to look further! before you discredit him for not feeling his music try giving a listen to songs like “time to rest your weary head” “makes me cry” and “in the real early morning”. He has a lot of fun exploring and making huge arrangements, but every once in a while makes a nice more restrained song. also, in one of the theory videos he talks about cadences like feelings. how it’s like coming home and the different voicings and colors are the different emotions you can feel in a situation. to be fair I’m a huge Collier fan, so I’m biased, just trying to share the sensitive sides. of course you don’t have to like him, you are entitled to your opinions! but he’s not a “machine” or a “god”, he’s a human being with a story to share if you listen 💗
Yesss thanks for commenting what i was thinking
Even the more complicated arrangements, like Moon River shows a lot of emotion imo
My man went there🖤 respect
Yeah, and I think another issue is that people saying his music lacks emotion have a very compartmentalized idea of what expression in music entails based on their past experience. Every song he makes feels the way he wants it to, and communicates in the way he meant to communicate it. It's not always meant to be a bop. I agree that some of his stuff (especially the way early recordings) are more experimental and just trying something to see if it works rather than being something refined in the way he would refine it, but everything on any of his albums is expressing EXACTLY what he wanted to express in that moment.
As someone who does not know music theory, his music continues to bring me to tears. The last key change of hideaway? OH BOY
Charles: you can probably think of 8000 songs where you have heard this.
Also Charles: *plays something I’ve never heard in my life*
LMAO
@12:16 - that was lovely. I can't really explain it, but this made me go off into a memory that was both sad and happy. Remembering a dear friend or a lover who drifted away leaving fond memories behind.