@@elstriker2020 If you get beat because someone knew how to play againsts your bad character then they are better than you because they knew the character matchup and played to your weakness. If you beat someone with a bad character then you probably found what makes that character work against stronger opponents making you a good player
This sub zero has very well rounded game plan , plays in a way opening spacing to zone / react to aggressiveness with ice clone counter / abuse dive kick neutral skip 👍 willing to go for long mid screen carry combo opposed to something like infamous player Sik strictly going for corner and kinda clutch on Lao hat to get things . Problem of this "archetype" of character doing low damage with versatile tool are ages long with fighting game , adaptive player eventually gets their player pattern and generally more chance to learn/react .
People really out here saying ice clone is a trash move but if you treat it like a parry it seems pretty standard lol It has a slower startup than some other but it also counters jump ins and lows 🤷♂️ Edit: it literally OS's any forward movement. "It can be punished on reaction!" like yeah so can virtually any special move on whiff that isnt a projectile.
It's because you can't use it how it was ever used before. You can Armor through it or Kameo through on reaction every time. If they poke into it or B12(mid, mid) into it, it's death for Sub if the opponent knows that Sub has very long recovery. Xombat is a crazy good player but he doesn't know the matchup and said so in this very video and that's because nobody is playing with Sub at tourney's
The only thing you can really use Clone for is corner combos which creates very bad scaling and on reaction to jump ins which are not very strong in MK1 especially compared to MKX or MK11. But most moves aren't reactable into clone. It has to be like 36f startup and advancing far to catch them. The hitbox on clone is pretty awful in MK1. MK9 clone was godlike
I wish the Kameos had some sort of pre-match dialogue to discuss a game plan. Shao to Lao: You ready? Lao: Always! Shao: How's your neck? Lao: .........
i swear people say sub is bad, but his keep away/neutral is so annoying if it was any better it would be a real top tier problem. His damage isnt even too bad with Sareena
@@elsamarwilliamsthe complete story is: LinKueiMaster beat Sik 2-1 in KL. Then LinKueiMaster won a FT5. Then Sikander won a second FT5. They’re cool with each other though so it’s not a big deal.
I wish i could play nearly as good as these guys but i dont have anyone to play with except for the random kombat players sigh who have no idea who to play the game and think they're something special becuase they beat amateurs and most likely ain't ever gonna hold there own against these guys.
Size sixteen shoe😂
I wonder what he actually says I think it's Chinese or Mandarin
Nah bro it’s NRS gibberish and I’m all for it
@@nashhenry9314 me too,, and also mileena what she says in the meter burn ball roll
Man ever since I heard this I cannot stop hearing him say that lmaooo 🤣🤣
@@dartawnasailo4449I was thinking the same thing sha sha sheeeeee 😂
Theres this Sub called Lin Kuei master, been washing both Sonicfox and Honeybee💀
Can you share his TH-cam or twitch?
@@isaacgoima6131 Dont really know it bro
And its him again and he just changed his name
Yes watch honey bee vs god like sub zero
that sub was crazy good! his reads were insane
Goes to show that any of the characters can cook if the player is good.
One of my favorite things about these games. Any character is viable if you're good enough.
Of course it is. But you still can't ignore that SOME characters are just objectively bad than others
@@elstriker2020 yeah you're gonna have good and bad characters but they're all viable
@@elstriker2020 If you get beat because someone knew how to play againsts your bad character then they are better than you because they knew the character matchup and played to your weakness. If you beat someone with a bad character then you probably found what makes that character work against stronger opponents making you a good player
Bro as a Sub loyalist playing him gives me a strong feeling, like I play him better than the high tier chars which I've mastered
He feels very aggressive and idk.. safe😭 its just the damage that kills him
@@Tetra_Mk his dmg is not that bad if you do optimal combos, but it's still lower than the others
don't lie to urself, he's trash@@MoRiSnipeR01
This sub zero has very well rounded game plan , plays in a way opening spacing to zone / react to aggressiveness with ice clone counter / abuse dive kick neutral skip 👍 willing to go for long mid screen carry combo opposed to something like infamous player Sik strictly going for corner and kinda clutch on Lao hat to get things .
Problem of this "archetype" of character doing low damage with versatile tool are ages long with fighting game , adaptive player eventually gets their player pattern and generally more chance to learn/react .
It is a complete disgrace that Sub Zero loses fireball wars.
They will buff Sub Zero, it's inevitable. Sub Zero players already got W.
Just cuz sub at the bottom of the tierlist doesn’t mean he’s bad. I think the worst characters with good kameos makes them viable.
People really out here saying ice clone is a trash move but if you treat it like a parry it seems pretty standard lol
It has a slower startup than some other but it also counters jump ins and lows 🤷♂️
Edit: it literally OS's any forward movement. "It can be punished on reaction!" like yeah so can virtually any special move on whiff that isnt a projectile.
It's because you can't use it how it was ever used before. You can Armor through it or Kameo through on reaction every time. If they poke into it or B12(mid, mid) into it, it's death for Sub if the opponent knows that Sub has very long recovery.
Xombat is a crazy good player but he doesn't know the matchup and said so in this very video and that's because nobody is playing with Sub at tourney's
The only thing you can really use Clone for is corner combos which creates very bad scaling and on reaction to jump ins which are not very strong in MK1 especially compared to MKX or MK11.
But most moves aren't reactable into clone. It has to be like 36f startup and advancing far to catch them.
The hitbox on clone is pretty awful in MK1.
MK9 clone was godlike
Clone is trash even used like a parry. He has other better options for beating both jump ins and lows that are more rewarding and far less risky.
jump ins are garbage you don't need clone to punish, it's not even subs best option just the easiest
thanks xombat I've been looking for kombos with sub Zero for a long time
I wish the Kameos had some sort of pre-match dialogue to discuss a game plan.
Shao to Lao: You ready?
Lao: Always!
Shao: How's your neck?
Lao: .........
Like what oddgiant AF do
I know this info meant be know but when doing the < 3 cancel < >2 it cheap but it works like a charm.
6:48 after this i n the most casual way was like “mhm thas how we do it”
We really not gonna talk about sikander555 ? Ok
If u Good with Sub your a better player than most. Because it takes more effort to use him n win.. alot of players are carried by strong characters
Dude gave the game away like 3 times lol
20:33 hurts
completely dropped the game here
I was interested until the moment I saw Sareena on the screen
So as water tuns into beautyfull stuff.
🇵🇸Imagine how good he will be if they buf sub z🇵🇸
They will just keep the dive to reason out all the bad traits , just abuse it as their intention 😅
i swear people say sub is bad, but his keep away/neutral is so annoying if it was any better it would be a real top tier problem. His damage isnt even too bad with Sareena
He needs a channel asap! 🧊
Rebelo creating new accounts nonstop? xDD Mb its the same guy with Linkuei_master tag who crashed Sonic and Honey
just heard about this guy, do u know if he has a channel or not?
@@jerrythehedgehog7566yes it , his name is “ X-CiND3R-X
Ice cut like blade.. kung laos hat made by sub
ain’t this the same subzero that fought with honeybee?
He should fight sikander
Can’t lie this subs combos are crazy but everything else he does is kinda odd and if you’re wondering how I can be talking I’m a elder god sub
Can you share what’s odd bro, I’m a sub main trying to get better.
Shao guide pretty please
tight
Density matters not size sixteen shoe
Sikander wish it was him
Who said Sub has no dmg? Sareena is best Kameo for proper players. No gimmicks, no setups, just footsies and Dmg.
Kung Lao Kameo is best sub zero.
Also Sub Zero needs buff.
@@seven.1154🤡
Goro or sonya are better in my opinion
@seven.1154 it's definitely not.
The harder the ice it .. can become diamond.. talk about crystel device of sub
Lol this shit be annoying…. Zone and ice clone zone and ice clones 😂😂😂 kudos to this cat
Watch Honeybee cmndr vs sub. Bro wa getting abused looool
369..
Sub zero s overhead with tremor is safe I can't believe the game has something like that lol that's crazy
To be fair, against other characters, Sub-Zero pales in comparison no matter the cameo you give him 😢
He could already make it safe with Stryker
Smoke's overhead?
Many characters have safe overheads without kameos😂
@@akwl0l812 how many safe overheads is launches you for 320?
Until I Say So...
Just like little girls love grand masters blue berry ice
Trust tesla
best subzero player is sikander no doubt about that, that toxic sucker is beating everyone who plays subzero xD
including the lin kuei master as well
Toxic sucker 😅😅😅
Lies. Lin Kuei beats Sik
No lin lost in the first to 5 against Sik . So yeah Sik W
He also beat Sik … twice.
@@elsamarwilliamsthe complete story is:
LinKueiMaster beat Sik 2-1 in KL.
Then LinKueiMaster won a FT5.
Then Sikander won a second FT5.
They’re cool with each other though so it’s not a big deal.
Shao is fool..
I wish i could play nearly as good as these guys but i dont have anyone to play with except for the random kombat players sigh who have no idea who to play the game and think they're something special becuase they beat amateurs and most likely ain't ever gonna hold there own against these guys.
Sub zero fraco
Sikander is the best sub zero Player,,, he literally is bi han😅,,,the way he talks and everything is bi han
No he just a delusional fan boy
@@Hello454World he may be toxic as person, but the good thing about him is his gameplay, dedication and loyalty to the character is unbearable
Yea we just saw the best Sub in the world. Its not this guy.
Clickbait worked. We all thought it's Sikander and i know that it was your intention too.
Lin Kuei Master (Arrona) is better than Sik
Lol i definitely did not think it would be that asshat Sikander
They played against each other on one of Sikander's streams and it's 1-1 so far. It was a draw.@@xyylem
@@cpfantastic5576🤡
this is NOT rebelo
Fire sucks ice so bad
Whoever uses sareena is not worthy of being called the best