Papua New Guinean here. PNG should not be considered as the 18th team. We’re simply not ready. NRL should either invest in or support the development system here instead.
yeah but this PNG team situation is gonna be an absolute cash bonanza for the entire league - $600M over 10 years from the federal government - because they’re looking to use a PNG team to curry geopolitical favour in the Pacific. I also think that PNG is fully capable of stepping up the plate and making an NRL team a huge success, because if anyone loves their football, it’s you guys, and you deserve to be rewarded for that
Football and politics… I reckon an NRL team prevents none of the risks that are emerging. It’s not the nrls role to get involved in that rubbish. Albo should invest the money is the army. Nrl expansion should be Perth, another NZ team, then TBD.
As a Papua New Guinean, i hope the NRL doesn't make us the 18th team. It's more political than what's good for the game. Would rather the game grow our grassroots footy and establish international pathways/academic footy scholarships. I'd rather the Bears get it
Tru tumas bro. Marape pasim eye blo ol sipsip waintaim dispela long long driman ya. I only pity the Aussie taxpayers who will be losing big time given how there hard earned dollar has been squandered.
How's the interest over there with the PNG Hunters? If there was promotion and relegation (1 team from each cup plus another that wins a Cups playoff), every non NRL team or non NRL affiliate has a chance at playing NRL, last placed from the 3 drops to their cup and replaced. Builds the interest and money into the 2 state cups, that's where Perth PNG and co can work their way into the NRL
@@EmmanuelApa-mj7xu brat mahn.... moni lo ronim lo team bai go lo narala hap. Non faul ose politics makim na 1pla mahn China bai ronim 5/8 lo yumi. Haha
@@Youser57bro interest in the footy is sky-high over here and it would be interesting to see an underdog franchise win the comp. The only problem with that is how attractive would it be for an A-list talent to want to sign to a PNG franchise should we be promoted into first grade? Safety is paramount Another route could be if the NRL introduced something like what they do over in the NBA/NFL and divide the teams into conferences. I mean more teams, reduce the rounds, increase international games and then see where things go. Somewhat like Rugby Union. But that's in the long run.
Look guys. Right now, my country is no where near an NRL team. I think the Australian government is more worried about China's influence in the Pacific so they think pleasing our politicians by giving us an NRL team will sway us but honestly, its just a waste of time and Australian tax-payers money. I know the NRL won't be able to recoup their finances. Who can even afford tickets to watch a game? Life's rough over here and our currency is way more trash against the Aussie dollar. Its just a bad investment. And who knows, maybe some folks over there may have a cut in their little 4-point plan about a compound or whatever with our politicians. That's just a theory from myself. Either way, this application isn't based on the fact that we are ready. I mean. The passion of the game is definately here, but even our footy isn't up to standard. Justin Olam even mentioned how much he had to learn the technical aspects before he even cracked 1st grade. Long-story short, give it to Perth or somebody else.
@@VelvetRiot-hz5mp jokes on you, they're returning in 2025 as a foundation club in the second tier that will eventually be promoted to the top league. Hope you're enjoying your Melbourne City membership with the other 46 manufacturered fans and empty stadiums.
I don’t get why the push for a 2nd NZ team from the South Island isn’t gaining more traction. We have great stadiums in Christchurch and Dunedin and we have the infrastructure, league all over NZ is booming and we have a strong player base. Just my musings tho
Rugby League is a popular secondary sport in both Perth and Christchurch. The latter has bigger and better grassroots across both Rugby codes, while the former is wealthier per capita along with 6x the pop. of the latter (and 1.1 million more people in the metro than the whole South Island)
@@khankake9576 yeah the warriors got a hiding, but the warriors chants far exceeded anything from the home team and this has been the case in almost every warriors game. A South Island team would get great support. We support our team regardless, a lot of top nrl teams fans don’t even turn up when they are winning
@@Connor6569 Trouble is that most of them go to Aussie cause there's better opportunities. All I can see happening is spreading the talent too thin between two teams
@@wolfgangvonuce9803 PNG is a poor country and the money could go to other infrastructure. PNG government and police are corrupt. PNG is also dangerous.
It would look rubbish at Optus. Would look like no-one attends. HBF park is far better. Plus, it’s already rectangular, so no field changes taking everything further away from the crowd, like when it was played at the WACA. Having said that, it’ll probably end up at Optus.
Papua New Guinea Government is only interested in the money.... I predict there will be a huge regret by the NRL when funds go missing 🤦. If PNG is to be given the thumbs up then an independent body in Australia should control the funds. Our Government has a way of not noticing millions that go missing.
Perth deserves to be the next NRL team. As for PNG, perhaps once we eliminate the rascals wandering the streets of Port Moresby, we can consider including a team in the NRL.
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This is a joke.. why do we even bother talking about this crap anymore? One weeks it’s PNG, one weeks it’s Perth, the next it’s the Bears or Brisbane or NZ something it’s just a joke
@@dusmangi NRL would try to schedule away from the Eagles and Dockers for sure. I think they could manage quite well on Friday nights, as they could start at Perth time 7pm or even later. AFL on Fri nights starts at 5.40pm. Eagles and Dockers are hardly ever on Friday night football. They could pull a crowd of people after work on a Friday night and allow time for fans to come into the city.
@@BDub2024 ok not disagreeing but if majority of fans would be foreigners such as poms kiwis ect and a few locals to turn up every so often gus is jus saying 200 thousand fans im not seeing that given time say 2030 nrl fan base could double that figure so im saying maybe abit more time just like png needs alot more time to grow so perth will still be inthe top 18 other team would say melb. given they are the heart of afl so the nrl should fight from within afl territory jus a thought but👍
I dont understand why Aborigines dont have a separate team in the comp. surely they deserve to on account of the 2-tier system of australian politics. In fact, I would put money on, its just a matter of time until the push becomes mainstream in the comp..
Perth NRL fan here. We do not want a Bears combination here. Build something for us from scratch, or don't bother. I'll just keep supporting my east coast team rather than move over to some hand-me-down franchise from North Sydney.
I'm from Perth but not a fan. No one cares in Perth. I guess as N Sydney hasn't been in the NRL does help. But if the new club goes on about the old Newtown and N Sydney traditions and heritage then people in Perth will drop off. In the Perth marketplace any talk of it being a Syd club originally needs to be really downplayd.
Perth has 2 AFL teams so it’s important to have another NRL team, back there with their own nickname. A lot of East coasters and Poms heading over there so they know footy. No need to take the Jets and Bears over it will be a completely different generational fan base. PNG is not safe yet, maybe make them the 20th team but better off going to NZ again, infrastructure and TV money is already there.
Perth people don't care about if the club is relocated. But they just need to be careful that the North Sydney Newtown stuff isn't talked about much in Perth. Perth is parochial. So they need to downplay N Sydney. But I'm sure the press will keep talking about the former clubs.
@@dazzagregory8186 yes i remember adelaide had a team. perth was getting pretty good crowds at the waca. even if some of the crowd was waca members and people were getting slammd in the cricket pitch area.
If you want a team based in PNG the team would not be in Port Moresby if you’re talking about safety. If you want players to feel safe you would consider making the team based in East New Britain or New Ireland which are most probably the safest provinces in PNG.
PNG is just too hardcore for Aussies. Teams will need an armed escort everywhere, PNG is not like anything we understand until you get there. I get what the Aus gov are trying to do, but read the travel warnings.
The media always paint PNG black. Give a team and you will see, the players will be happy to live in PNG. As we love nrl we will respect the nrl players.
@@markokuk327 I went up to PM and PNG for work a few years back. I have nothing against PNG people, and I know there ain't a place on earth that loves League more. I grew up in one of the worst suburbs in NSW, and I was waaaay outta my depth up there. Imagine some arrogant 20 year old going to the wrong place in Moresby?
@@noellzy There is no safe place in the world if you are concerned about safety, even in Australia. Look at places like Afghanistan. In the midst of chaos, they still have some international sports teams. Sports can also change the behavior and mentality of people.
Gals right, what player in their right mind would want anything to do with that PNG team, it’s a dangerous 3rd world country ffs why are we acting like it’s Bondi or Brisbane? It’s not
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Port Moresby is a metropolitan city. Many Australians and expatriates work and live in Port Moresby with their families. What is so special about the players?
Media always paint PNG black. As we love NRL we will also have high respect for nrl players. Give a team and you will see, the players will be happy to live in PNG.
A metropolitan city that experiences power outages and water cuts? NRL players are pro athletes of a world standard not your bloody semi professional league.Get serious!
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 What makes zero sense here! You’re living in a world that is full of danger around you. Players are human being, they can adapt to climate and situations. You have zero space in your head to think, mate!
The nrl should be expanding and putting a team in Perth or Adelaide. As well as a team each in Darwin and Hobart. Neither Darwin or Hobart have winter sports teams and the nrl has spent over a decade taking games there and getting good turnouts, what’s the point of taking games there and not putting a team there? Beat the afl to both and have them on the back foot for once!! I know there will be an argument that putting in 3 new teams will dilute the quality of the nrl across the board. This is true, but the sooner they do it, the sooner they can develop kids in these locations especially the NT and tassie which will long term swell the talent pool. As it stands there’s 16 teams picking the scraps of talent in 2 states. The sooner we give NT a team the sooner a lot of extremely talented indigenous players who currently prefer afl can switch to rugby league and will also have a team to play for that doesn’t require them to leave their home state which is a big move for young indigenous kids.
I think Darwin's a tough ask. Perth & Adelaide I think make sense as markets that have previously hosted the sport professionally (albeit 20-30 years ago) and both cities have good facilities for teams to play from to begin with. I think Darwin falls apart for similar reasons to PNG, in that a lot of investment would be needed for suitable facilities, especially given the weather conditions. Hobart also has similar issues, and very little interest in rugby league in Tasmania as a whole, to the point that Tassie hasn't had its own competitive league active in nearly a decade. Darwin, Hobart & PNG need a lot more improvements in terms of development pathways which doesn't necessarily have to stem from having an NRL club there and also probably shouldn't at this stage. Perth, Adelaide, a 2nd team in NZ & maybe even a 4th team in South East Queensland seem like much better investments for the NRL to make.
Personally, the only way I’d follow a rugby league team again is if you gave me back my Western Reds. I was drawn from WAFL to ARL by the Tina Turner promotion in the early 90’s choosing the Newcastle Knights before getting excited for the build for our own team. I went to nearly every Reds home game and was devastated when we lost our team and just couldn’t support league anymore, giving my allegiance to Fremantle Dockers. It’ll take a strong effort to get me back to league again and I’m sure I’m not alone in that regard. Give us back our Western Reds.
The AFL is actually expanding based on good management, how thin does the NRL want to spread the crowds? The whole sport needs a PR rebrand and repositioning before it should even think of expansion…
AFL have to waste 10s of millions of dollars perpetually propping up the Lions, Giants and Suns. RL has expansion bids proving they can pay their own way and paying a licence fee.
@@titoelcolombiano the broadcast rights pay for the Sun's and the Giants. The AFL is evangelical, while Rugby League needs to shed its siege mentality
AFL wanted to have North Melb relocate to Gold Coast. But at last minute they pulled out. So AFL had to launch a new team to make it 17th. Then they needed a way to make it even, so they went for Western Sydney which also tries to service Canberra. Now they got sucked into (and spooked by basketball's success) into a 19th Tasmanian team. Not sure how they will get a 20s. I'm not convinced that Darwin or Canberra are good ideas.
@@BDub2024 Darwin is a sleeping goldmine for Indigenous players and the cultural reputation of the game. If they do pull that off, it will make the NRL look even more behind
I want Perth but not the Bears, West Aussies want their own unique team, Bears have nothing to do with WA. Needs to be unique. The Aussie government needs to help PNG set up some better pathways in PNG first. A country like PNG should be producing more NRL players than it does, scattered throughout the comp, that will improve the Kumuls. Maybe add another Q cup team and some in NSW cup first might be an option.
Perth don't care if its relocated. But if the commentators keep on going on about the return of North Sydney then it will wear thin with the PErth market. They don't care about Sydney traditional clubs. I don't know how to avoid all the N Sydney Newtown hype.
Shove the Sydney teams where the sun doesn't shine. 4 teams in Sydney, Western Sydney, Perth (Western Reds), Darwin, PNG, Pacific, Sth West Qld, Country Qld and Country NSW. All ready Melbourne, Canberra, Newcastle, Warriors and then 4 Qld teams at present. Finally a true National RL.
Would like to see Perth, SA and 2nd nz side. I don’t understand why we need more nsw teams. We should be taking over Australia, nz and beyond in to the English super league.
relocated clubs into PErth are ok. But the NRL needs to be really careful to down play the N Sydney or Newtown tradition or they will lose people in PErth who just don't care about Sydney.
As a Papua New Guinean, we are off without having an NRL too, NRL hasn't been conducive to PNG over the years, most of our players are dominating Super League, in the next 5 to 10 years time, we are sure to dominate the Super League so we doing fine, give the 18th team to An australian Team
@@markokuk327 i know too many clown form PNG in the comment carrying on like what they feel actually matters to the govermnet. the man with the money is the one who calls the shots - not some sc um bag po s child from the village.
Best part about nrl expansion is i feel like there are some great players deserving of starter spots that are currently not getting enough playing time. It will be great for all fans.
On the other hand, clubs will have less depth and talent is more spread, which has its downsides. But going to an even number of clubs is better anyway.
Counting heads and headstones haha dam right. Everybody used to have a bit of a soft spot for the Bears back in the day. But let Perth be Perth and have its own franchise. Otherwise you are going to have a push to have Bears games at North Sydney oval, forget it. WA and Perth is amazing, time zones work perfectly for TV, let them do it their way so the WA locals get behind it.
but, ur teams doesnt exist without the NRL, its like saying you want to be paid a salary and not even have a job lol And the Bears are you r team sure, i get the connection there but, it would be good to see them still represented by white australians right? meaning, its still an australian team, its just not a nth sydney team?
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 If you relocate my team. my team doesn't exist. now it is someone elses team. and no, the Bears aren't my team. Also without the supporters, the NRL doesn't exist as they have no product to sell to advertisers.
Spoke to mate down in Invercargill and said for the first time ever more kids are signing up to play league. Predominantly rugby community. I remember back in 80’s league was big down there, but as soon as you got to high school you could only play union. That’s the reason kids stop playing.
I'd love to see the Bears returning as a Sydney team, playing every home game at an upgraded North Sydney Oval rather than being based on the other side of the country.
@@nicholasbradley-qalilawa2934 couldn't agree more and they've left it too late. But PNGs national sport is league and it's a good bit of propoganda for Australian relations. On a side note - I reckon you'll be surprised how many players would live on the island !
@@nibskewonyeah I agree it annoyed me how Gal said nobody would wanna move there like it’s a fact. A lot of people like myself are cultured and love travelling and meeting new people and you’d be a rockstar as a footy player in PNG. I reckon loads would move
When Melbourne came into the comp they wanted salary cap dispensation to attract players. Dispensation was not approved. Their initial squad contained seven internationals. Melbourne Storm eventually got busted for cheating the salary cap. If players don't want to relocate to Australia's second largest city with all it has to offer on the same money, it seems unlikely they will be willing to relocate with their families to PNG and live in a compound in sweltering heat. It will be like Storm players living in a compound in Queensland during Covid, but hotter and less safe. For a PNG team to be viable, the players might have to be based in North Queensland and fly into PNG for home games.
I think they should bring in one of those teams which were around during the 90’s. You have the North Sydney Bears that existed or even bring back the Hunter Mariners, South Queensland Crushers, Western Reds or Adelaide Rams.
A 2 conference NRL is on the cards and I'm all for it. I think it would be a huge success. NSW conference: Canterbury Parramatta St George Illawarra South Sydney Roosters Wests Tigers Cronulla Sharks Penrith Panthers Canberra Newcastle Manly National conference: Brisbane Nth Queensland Dolphins Gold Coast Western Bears Melbourne Storm Auckland Warriors Sth Island Kea PNG Top 4 from each conference goes into the national finals series. There's more teams in the NSW conference because if you took Newcastle and Canberra away from playing the Sydney teams, that would kill a lot of interest and possibly kill the club. The teams outside of NSW have less teams thus a higher chance of being in the finals and I would consider that compensation for having to travel further every other week in their competition. You can't kull or merge any more Sydney teams. Too many have gone already. At a push, you could introduce another QLD team or reluctantly bring in an Adelaide team but I don't think they would be a success. A dedicated few weeks for men's and woman's NSW v QLD and an Islands origin. Tonga - NZ - Samoa.
New Zealander here. New Zealand also isn't near another NRL franchise. Also the Warriors have become a national team. Excuse the comparison, (and yes I know the Wahs don't have as much success yet) but I feel like the new New Zealand franchise will face an uphill battle like the Los Angeles Clippers.
Now that you've mentioned it, I think you're right. When the mention of a 2nd NZ team came about a handful of jounos and league experts were worried, it would cannibalize the Wahs.
@JRPete Exactly. But also a consistent talent pool in New Zealand isn't huge for two franchises. I'd rather focus on the talent in NZ and grow it, than rely on overseas talent to fill that gap.
@@JRPete The Wahs play once a year in the South Island, its hardly like there is massive revenue for the team coming out of the island. And the talent pool is massive in NZ, its just that most players head to Australia. If we could retain them then who knows. There is no downside to our country in advocating for a 2nd team based here. Even if it fails it is better to have tried than to just say "Nah, 5 and a half million people is not enough for 2 clubs, we don't deserve that" I mean, look at Auckland FC, plenty of fans have changed from Nix fans. We can't have a good sporting culture here if people never want to nurture it, and instead want to kill it before anything could potentially happen.
Truth be told, PNG people are passionate about their footy. You'll never see crowds reactions anywhere else in the world like PNGs. NRL Players will have the best time of their life here. They will be safe here. But I agree with Gus, we PNG need a lot of work before thinking about entering into NRL. Saddest part is its Government driven so i wouldn't be suprised if it is rushed into it.
Only answer should be PERTH !!! so many Kiwis expats and Aussie will get behide it, BUT do not do PERTH dirty and make them link up with a team from the EAST. or the Perth people will not fully get behide !!!. Kiwis will send their Kids to Perth as they will have Family their
In my opinion it would be the South Island Kea (2nd kiwi team) and Perth. I'd be very surprised if PNG somehow can get a team despite most of them not wanting one for obvious reasons.
Nrl should make pathways in PNG and those players should be put into a draft system, we’ll need more players especially when we eventually have 20 teams
I know rubgy union has a side called Moana Pasifica, which is the super rugby side for all the small pacific nations such as Tonga and Samoa. I am suprised something like this isnt considered in the NRL. You could even play some games in Tonga and Samoa, kind of like how the Tigers play across different grounds to keep.thwir fans happh.
Why would you continue to put new teams in New South Wales or Queensland. Neither grows the game at all, it just cuts the existing money and talent pool into thinner slices.
@@troystaunton254 definitely grows the game when there’s a lot of untapped talent here that does not get utilised, players like Tyrone Roberts, Jimmy the jet, Amos Roberts, James and Mitchell Aubusson, Matt King, Nick Meaney, Daine Laurie, Brian Kelly just to name a few are from here and growing up here I can tell you there were players that were meant to be superstars over them that just didn’t get a crack or not enough resources unless you travel up to the Gold Coast.
Here’s my two cents I think Papua New Guinea would be a great team for the Australia National Rugby League, Because Rugby league is the National sport in Papua New Guinea and it would bring tourists and tourism in to the beautiful tropical country, every single game there in the country would be a sell out all season long, and also Papua New Guinea’s QLD cup team would then have an NRL affiliate because at the the moment they don’t have one Perth city on the west coast of Australia would be kind of tough because AFL, Soccer, and cricket is most popular over there and I don’t think the Perth bears would work, but I think the Perth Pirates or West Coast Pirates would have more zing in it , sure they played some NRL games in Perth but also a state of origin game over there too, but Perth used to have a rugby league team in the ARL called the western reds but as far as I know, they didn’t do too well but there are some talented rugby league players from there, and also the problem I find with Perth is the time difference meaning if a perth based game is on live on Friday night and the broadcast transmissions airs at 7:30pm for example in the east coast (QLD, NSW, Victoria, etc it will be live at 9:30pm and even more late in New Zealand North Sydney Bears would also be a good edition to return to The National Rugby League Because they were founded in 1908 the year rugby league Australia was established and they are in the still active in the originally called New South Wales rugby league, which is now called the Knock on effect New South Wales Cup, and they won two season premierships in the 1920s and Ivan Cleary (Nathan Clearly father and the coach the Three in a row premieres the Penrith panthers) was on the north Sydney bears team The Newtown jets would be an interesting edition because the are one of the original teams of the NSW rugby league and are still active in the Knock on effect NSW cup, and in the early days they got three Season premierships, but the only thing is that I don’t like their emblem, it just looks like it hasn’t been updated in years, Newtown Please, Please, Please forgive me, and there’s no picture of a jet in it, but it is good for a heritage/retro round South Island Kea, ok this is a tough one, 1. The country would be Split in to rivalry in two different regions, 2. The New Zealand warriors would be renamed to north island warriors or the Auckland warriors, because the warriors were so popular all over New Zealand the renames themselves the New Zealand warriors, and New Zealand is a beautiful country too, I will admit, and 3. There would be a New Zealand Derby, twice a year and the rivalry could get out of control, but it would also mean a lot of tourists in the South Island Overall my decision is the Papua New Guinea Team and the North Sydney Bear And that is my two cents, you are entitled to your own opinion, and I am not gonna disrespect or dispute, all thoughts are my own and my words are final.
@@dusmangi that seems like a possibility, Melbourne Storm entered the NRL since it’s first season and they won four season premierships (as of 2024), and they are still going strong.
@@braydenbrown379 agreed and thats my point Melb. storms was a stroke of genius great marketing and a great setup right from the start everything clicked as it was meant to happen Think the nrl should have the 2nd team then possible wait & see on perth png and nzs 2nd team other states such as n.t s.a are jus not enough fanbase The nrl would want to get it right once The super league was a mess & it may have given the nrl the cold feet to setup teams in those states lol
South Island should be before PNG. Honestly, the NRL should be planning for a 3 team NZ presence. The stronger NZ is, the stronger the game will get as it makes for an increasingly more interesting Aus-NZ international series.
@@Samizouza true but nrls real threat is afl having another melb. team should be an option look at hows storms are winning on& off field for yonks now warriors have not ru is boring lol
@@Samizouza if there nrl is looking for an 18th team should be in melb. they should get the preference over perth as much as i like a png team to join theres evidence there : storms its a no brainer
We need fewer teams not more. Get rid of these historic Sydney inner city teams like Easts and Souths, combine Canterbury and Saint George, combine Parramatta and Wests. That leaves Manly, Cronulla, Parra, Penrith, and a combined Saints/Canterbury in Sydney, with four in Queensland, Newcastle, Melbourne, Canberra, New Zealand. That's 13 out of the present 17 clubs. That's a good competition and allows for three more clubs from Perth, Pacific and a relocated Easts/Souths to Adelaide. There aren't enough true first grade players to. staff any more than 16 teams.
but how do you get fewer clubs and get clubs to agree. they won't agree in AFL either. AFL has given up merging clubs. They've tried to relocate clubs like North but they refuse to go despite being proppd up by the AFL. The AFL just don't want the heat from fans anymore. Is the NRL the same?
That's stupid you want to get rid of historic foundation clubs with big supporter bases, Also merging Canterbury and Dragons makes no sense, maybe if you said Cronulla and Dragons it would be more reasonable since Cronulla are located in between St George and Wollongong. If anything Wests should just be demoted to NSW cup the team has been a mess for over 10 years now.
@@davidpickford. I don't know if the NRL has ever given big incentives for clubs in Sydney to merge. AFL tried for years and it couldn't get over the line. I'm amazd that NRL managed to get some mergers done 20 or so years ago.
Plenty of professional Australian sporting clubs have the same moniker as clubs in other domestic leagues. The AFL and NRL both have Tigers and Bulldogs, used to both have Bears and Magpies. Perth Heat in Baseball, Brisbane Heat in BBL etc Besides, the Western Reds refers to the Roo, the Queensland Reds refers to the colour
As a PNGean...I still think we are not yet ready to put a team in the NRL. We do not have any Jr development programe in place to nurture and grow players. I agree, we don't have the infrastructure, resources. And Gals concern is on point, how many players would wanna stay in PNG in a compound? We still have a longway to go before we put a team in the NRL..
@@DeepseaSteve I’m Aussie but have you not seen all the kiwi players in the comp a lot of them big names they are not bludging off our comp and the population of NZ is like 4-5 million around the same as Sydney alone
I would like PNG team to be the next team in but Perth, Adelaide, Darwin and a 2nd NZ team. A PNG team would be better off based out of Cairns and then take games to PNG
Perth Jets Central Coast Bears Second Team in New Zealand Simples Then down the track in like 40-50 years if they want to go to 24 teams which would be ideal in terms of a NATIONAL Competition you could go- Adelaide Second team in Melbourne Darwin over PNG And Cairns That would cover all bases
There will be no more teams in regional NSW. You need less not more. Why is there suddenlly talk about the Jets instead of the Bears. Melbourne should definitely not have a second team. There are too many teams in the NRL as it is.
@@CamElRodriguezSnrJnrIII Its too many. Even the AFL don't want it and they have more fans and there is more money in AFL than NRL. But for AFL they got duped into Tasmania (19th) due to pressure and how basketball took over the state due to the jack jumpers.
PNG needs to be in the comp. Based in Cairns , playing in png , a la west tigers , 4-5 times a year. Players WILL play for them as it’s nrl exposure. My biggest fear is it would be a transit lounge , to other clubs. Cairns crime rate is 50% higher than the average. Why is no one saying they’d (players) like in a compound in Cairns?
As a North Sydney Bears fan there is no way I can support a Perth team. PNG is the only Bears team I could support because they wouldn't be Australian based.
Sorry the bears, should be on the central coast and a new team created from scratch, especially if NZ has a second team. Scrap the PNG team unless based in Cairns as no one will want to live in Port Moresby. In a cost of living crises, I find it disgusting that they are willing to use $600 million for a a rich NRL.
NRL and Australian/US government you can achieve what you want in a better way. Plonking an 18th team in port moresby will not work in the long run because right now we are not ready for it. A better way is to use that money ($600M) administered by the NRL to fund PNGs national competition currently called the Digicel cup and publicise the hell out of the good deed you are doing. A rising tide lifts all boats. The local digicel cup players have a chance to be full time professionals on a livable wage. This then has flow on effects to the local economy and is an easier pathway for youth to set goals to achieve. Naturally coaching and player quality will improve and from there you will have more NRL players contracted from PNG. The better gauge to determine whether a PNG team will be successful is when the average PNG person can afford tickets to a game.This is a whole different matter where the PNG government really has to weed out corruption, improve policing, public transport etc etc and generally improve the economy and governance as a whole. As a Papua New Guinean i would love my own NRL team....but maybe in another 10 yrs time.
Perth, NZ South Island, and 3rd Brisbane team would be the best options for 20 team comp. Adelaide doesn't have the following and noone is going to want to live in PNG
because no one has come out officially to pleadge financial support for that idea. I mean, on that logic why doesn't every town in QLD deserve a team in the NRL? does that make sense to you
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Papua New Guinean here. PNG should not be considered as the 18th team. We’re simply not ready. NRL should either invest in or support the development system here instead.
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yeah but this PNG team situation is gonna be an absolute cash bonanza for the entire league - $600M over 10 years from the federal government - because they’re looking to use a PNG team to curry geopolitical favour in the Pacific. I also think that PNG is fully capable of stepping up the plate and making an NRL team a huge success, because if anyone loves their football, it’s you guys, and you deserve to be rewarded for that
Football and politics… I reckon an NRL team prevents none of the risks that are emerging. It’s not the nrls role to get involved in that rubbish. Albo should invest the money is the army. Nrl expansion should be Perth, another NZ team, then TBD.
Is the NRL a national or international sporting competition
Well the warriors have been in since 95 so...@@michaelchandola2779
As a Papua New Guinean, i hope the NRL doesn't make us the 18th team. It's more political than what's good for the game. Would rather the game grow our grassroots footy and establish international pathways/academic footy scholarships. I'd rather the Bears get it
Tru tumas bro. Marape pasim eye blo ol sipsip waintaim dispela long long driman ya.
I only pity the Aussie taxpayers who will be losing big time given how there hard earned dollar has been squandered.
How's the interest over there with the PNG Hunters? If there was promotion and relegation (1 team from each cup plus another that wins a Cups playoff), every non NRL team or non NRL affiliate has a chance at playing NRL, last placed from the 3 drops to their cup and replaced.
Builds the interest and money into the 2 state cups, that's where Perth PNG and co can work their way into the NRL
@@EmmanuelApa-mj7xu brat mahn.... moni lo ronim lo team bai go lo narala hap. Non faul ose politics makim na 1pla mahn China bai ronim 5/8 lo yumi. Haha
@@Youser57bro interest in the footy is sky-high over here and it would be interesting to see an underdog franchise win the comp. The only problem with that is how attractive would it be for an A-list talent to want to sign to a PNG franchise should we be promoted into first grade? Safety is paramount
Another route could be if the NRL introduced something like what they do over in the NBA/NFL and divide the teams into conferences. I mean more teams, reduce the rounds, increase international games and then see where things go. Somewhat like Rugby Union. But that's in the long run.
Look guys. Right now, my country is no where near an NRL team. I think the Australian government is more worried about China's influence in the Pacific so they think pleasing our politicians by giving us an NRL team will sway us but honestly, its just a waste of time and Australian tax-payers money. I know the NRL won't be able to recoup their finances. Who can even afford tickets to watch a game? Life's rough over here and our currency is way more trash against the Aussie dollar. Its just a bad investment. And who knows, maybe some folks over there may have a cut in their little 4-point plan about a compound or whatever with our politicians. That's just a theory from myself.
Either way, this application isn't based on the fact that we are ready. I mean. The passion of the game is definately here, but even our footy isn't up to standard. Justin Olam even mentioned how much he had to learn the technical aspects before he even cracked 1st grade.
Long-story short, give it to Perth or somebody else.
I've waited since 1999 for the bears to come back and I'm 35 ready!
39 same
There are South Melbourne supporters like you in Victoria waiting for them to come back too. They are done, time to move on.
@@VelvetRiot-hz5mp jokes on you, they're returning in 2025 as a foundation club in the second tier that will eventually be promoted to the top league. Hope you're enjoying your Melbourne City membership with the other 46 manufacturered fans and empty stadiums.
@@nibskewon Dude, was referring to the Swans. They were South Melbourne for 150 years. Not talking about the 1960's soccer club Hellas.
But why is the Jets suddenly being talked about. I'm an old Reds fan. I don't think Perth will care if the club is Bears or Jets whatsoever.
I don’t get why the push for a 2nd NZ team from the South Island isn’t gaining more traction. We have great stadiums in Christchurch and Dunedin and we have the infrastructure, league all over NZ is booming and we have a strong player base. Just my musings tho
Did you watch the Warriors game last week? We can't even field one competitive team, let alone two.
@@khankake9576 Why not. There are enough NZ born players to fill multiple teams
Rugby League is a popular secondary sport in both Perth and Christchurch. The latter has bigger and better grassroots across both Rugby codes, while the former is wealthier per capita along with 6x the pop. of the latter (and 1.1 million more people in the metro than the whole South Island)
@@khankake9576 yeah the warriors got a hiding, but the warriors chants far exceeded anything from the home team and this has been the case in almost every warriors game. A South Island team would get great support. We support our team regardless, a lot of top nrl teams fans don’t even turn up when they are winning
@@Connor6569 Trouble is that most of them go to Aussie cause there's better opportunities. All I can see happening is spreading the talent too thin between two teams
As a Papua New Guinean, no we dont want or need an NRL team.
Yuorait ?
@@Alekosdw passim
why?
@@wolfgangvonuce9803 PNG is a poor country and the money could go to other infrastructure. PNG government and police are corrupt. PNG is also dangerous.
what you want and need is kind of irrelevant dont you think? lool
Get the Perth team at HBF park, not at bloody Optus
Ringleader western coast
Back to the cricket ground, better amenities there.
It would look rubbish at Optus. Would look like no-one attends. HBF park is far better. Plus, it’s already rectangular, so no field changes taking everything further away from the crowd, like when it was played at the WACA.
Having said that, it’ll probably end up at Optus.
It will be at Perth OVal (also called HBF Park). 22k approx capacity. They'll get 15k and could build if they're winning.
we won’t get 15k 😂 but is that confirmed?! NRL last year was at Optus and this year is at HBF… HBF is better for the game and a better location too
Dont Expand to PNG. I am a Papua New Guinean commenting. We have too much problems here.
Trupla tok!
@@sidneybosike5270 thats true talk or speak. By the comments here, the Papuans know its not the right time for a PNG team and meybe it never will.
We don't even have enough medicine in the hospitals around png
No NRL player will want to live in PNG
We have enough png and international players to fill the roster. Next 🤭
@@leeawari2398yeah right 😂 need Aussie money to fund no one wants that hell hole
@@leeawari2398just not enough talent, next
Whether you like or not , it will still happen , PNG will still have a team in the NRL !! Next !
@@HallandKuluwathey definitely won’t have the next team, next
Papua New Guinea Government is only interested in the money.... I predict there will be a huge regret by the NRL when funds go missing 🤦. If PNG is to be given the thumbs up then an independent body in Australia should control the funds. Our Government has a way of not noticing millions that go missing.
Its not only the money..there are many other areas that need to be brought up to a desired standard..
ask asic to investigate O'NIL $500millions still missing thats $1billion with a capital B🤦🏽♂
Perth deserves to be the next NRL team. As for PNG, perhaps once we eliminate the rascals wandering the streets of Port Moresby, we can consider including a team in the NRL.
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This is a joke.. why do we even bother talking about this crap anymore? One weeks it’s PNG, one weeks it’s Perth, the next it’s the Bears or Brisbane or NZ something it’s just a joke
Perth has been the front runner for the past 2 years. Govt in WA has been in discussions for some time now and been keen.
Gus says no one under 30 would know who the Bears are but then says Perth need to be the Western Reds 🙄
Perth people won't care about it being the Bears or Jets and I'm in Perth. They'll get 15k at least each week.
@@BDub2024im in the pilbra and afl is yuuge you got the dockers & eagles dominating the weekends how would nrl compete if they played on the same day
@@dusmangi NRL would try to schedule away from the Eagles and Dockers for sure. I think they could manage quite well on Friday nights, as they could start at Perth time 7pm or even later. AFL on Fri nights starts at 5.40pm. Eagles and Dockers are hardly ever on Friday night football. They could pull a crowd of people after work on a Friday night and allow time for fans to come into the city.
@@BDub2024 ok not disagreeing but if majority of fans would be foreigners such as poms kiwis ect and a few locals to turn up every so often gus is jus saying 200 thousand fans im not seeing that given time say 2030 nrl fan base could double that figure so im saying maybe abit more time just like png needs alot more time to grow so perth will still be inthe top 18 other team would say melb. given they are the heart of afl so the nrl should fight from within afl territory jus a thought but👍
I dont understand why Aborigines dont have a separate team in the comp. surely they deserve to on account of the 2-tier system of australian politics. In fact, I would put money on, its just a matter of time until the push becomes mainstream in the comp..
I been a bears fan my whole life and I haven't followed no other club since 1999 for goodness sack bring back the bears so I can wear a nrl jumper
How come suddenly they're talking about Jets? Perth would be happy with any relocated club I know.
Great idea. They allow them to play on Nth Sydney. And Perth, have already bitten the NRL..
whats ur membership #:
Lol, you’re a passionate fan. Respect
20 team competition... so this "new innovation" is the 1990s 🤷♀️
Perth NRL fan here.
We do not want a Bears combination here.
Build something for us from scratch, or don't bother.
I'll just keep supporting my east coast team rather than move over to some hand-me-down franchise from North Sydney.
I'm from Perth but not a fan. No one cares in Perth. I guess as N Sydney hasn't been in the NRL does help. But if the new club goes on about the old Newtown and N Sydney traditions and heritage then people in Perth will drop off. In the Perth marketplace any talk of it being a Syd club originally needs to be really downplayd.
Perth has 2 AFL teams so it’s important to have another NRL team, back there with their own nickname. A lot of East coasters and Poms heading over there so they know footy. No need to take the Jets and Bears over it will be a completely different generational fan base.
PNG is not safe yet, maybe make them the 20th team but better off going to NZ again, infrastructure and TV money is already there.
Perth people don't care about if the club is relocated. But they just need to be careful that the North Sydney Newtown stuff isn't talked about much in Perth. Perth is parochial. So they need to downplay N Sydney. But I'm sure the press will keep talking about the former clubs.
@@BDub2024 good way to look it.
What about the Adelaide exact same situation, Adelaide had an nrl team aswell back in the day
@@dazzagregory8186 yes i remember adelaide had a team. perth was getting pretty good crowds at the waca. even if some of the crowd was waca members and people were getting slammd in the cricket pitch area.
If you want a team based in PNG the team would not be in Port Moresby if you’re talking about safety. If you want players to feel safe you would consider making the team based in East New Britain or New Ireland which are most probably the safest provinces in PNG.
PNG is just too hardcore for Aussies. Teams will need an armed escort everywhere, PNG is not like anything we understand until you get there. I get what the Aus gov are trying to do, but read the travel warnings.
@@noellzy Iraq still has a soccer league
The media always paint PNG black. Give a team and you will see, the players will be happy to live in PNG. As we love nrl we will respect the nrl players.
@@markokuk327 I went up to PM and PNG for work a few years back. I have nothing against PNG people, and I know there ain't a place on earth that loves League more. I grew up in one of the worst suburbs in NSW, and I was waaaay outta my depth up there. Imagine some arrogant 20 year old going to the wrong place in Moresby?
@@noellzy There is no safe place in the world if you are concerned about safety, even in Australia. Look at places like Afghanistan. In the midst of chaos, they still have some international sports teams. Sports can also change the behavior and mentality of people.
Would’ve liked to hear more about the South Island
Gals right, what player in their right mind would want anything to do with that PNG team, it’s a dangerous 3rd world country ffs why are we acting like it’s Bondi or Brisbane? It’s not
bondi and brissbane have turned into 3rd world countries as well my g, have you seen the leaders of the country? yeh lol
corrupt leaders have looted all the coffers for yrs until recently current gov seems to make abit better youll have to ask the aussie politicians to account for the funds they send your hard earn tax $$ ill give you a name ex pm peter o'neal hes half aussie/png by heritage the most corrupt person in power yup $500 million smackeroos ALL AUSSIES look this BUGGER UP🤦🏽♂🤦🏽♂🙄
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 no work for the dole there lol
Bring in Perth!!
They deserve it as they have been viable for decades, i was over there in 1996 with the National 15's and it was strong then
Dolphins. Games
Blood oath. Jets or Bears? What's the better one.
Port Moresby is a metropolitan city. Many Australians and expatriates work and live in Port Moresby with their families. What is so special about the players?
Man toktok oh drug toktok
Media always paint PNG black. As we love NRL we will also have high respect for nrl players. Give a team and you will see, the players will be happy to live in PNG.
A metropolitan city that experiences power outages and water cuts? NRL players are pro athletes of a world standard not your bloody semi professional league.Get serious!
@@markokuk327 that makes zero sense, care to re-phrase ??
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 What makes zero sense here! You’re living in a world that is full of danger around you. Players are human being, they can adapt to climate and situations. You have zero space in your head to think, mate!
scenes when nrl announce 18th team will be based in Antartica
We could have a team of Draco's or Shape shifters maybe lol, I know lots of the live over there...
Go the mighty penguins!
too cold there.
Bears merchandise way too cool.
Bears all the way!
The nrl should be expanding and putting a team in Perth or Adelaide. As well as a team each in Darwin and Hobart. Neither Darwin or Hobart have winter sports teams and the nrl has spent over a decade taking games there and getting good turnouts, what’s the point of taking games there and not putting a team there? Beat the afl to both and have them on the back foot for once!! I know there will be an argument that putting in 3 new teams will dilute the quality of the nrl across the board. This is true, but the sooner they do it, the sooner they can develop kids in these locations especially the NT and tassie which will long term swell the talent pool. As it stands there’s 16 teams picking the scraps of talent in 2 states. The sooner we give NT a team the sooner a lot of extremely talented indigenous players who currently prefer afl can switch to rugby league and will also have a team to play for that doesn’t require them to leave their home state which is a big move for young indigenous kids.
AFL franchise coming in Tassie, not to mention the NBL already being there.
Ron barassi line mate.
I think Darwin's a tough ask. Perth & Adelaide I think make sense as markets that have previously hosted the sport professionally (albeit 20-30 years ago) and both cities have good facilities for teams to play from to begin with. I think Darwin falls apart for similar reasons to PNG, in that a lot of investment would be needed for suitable facilities, especially given the weather conditions. Hobart also has similar issues, and very little interest in rugby league in Tasmania as a whole, to the point that Tassie hasn't had its own competitive league active in nearly a decade.
Darwin, Hobart & PNG need a lot more improvements in terms of development pathways which doesn't necessarily have to stem from having an NRL club there and also probably shouldn't at this stage. Perth, Adelaide, a 2nd team in NZ & maybe even a 4th team in South East Queensland seem like much better investments for the NRL to make.
Tasmanian devils are coming to the NRL
Ringleader western. Times
2 more Australian teams and 1 new Zealand team, ive kinda changed my mind on png imo
Personally, the only way I’d follow a rugby league team again is if you gave me back my Western Reds. I was drawn from WAFL to ARL by the Tina Turner promotion in the early 90’s choosing the Newcastle Knights before getting excited for the build for our own team. I went to nearly every Reds home game and was devastated when we lost our team and just couldn’t support league anymore, giving my allegiance to Fremantle Dockers. It’ll take a strong effort to get me back to league again and I’m sure I’m not alone in that regard. Give us back our Western Reds.
tassie war gamer? where bouts in tassie ??
I remember ( born 1944 ) when Dinny Obrien,Herman Hamilton and John Gray played for the BEARS.Bring them back to the SCG and North Sydney oval.
Gary Larson or Billy Moore? Peter Cross or Mario Fenech? Brett Dallas or Ikin? Beuttner or Florimo? NSW or QLD?
If the Western Reds continued they'd have 40k members today. A lost oportunity by the NRL.
We don’t need another Sydney team
The AFL is actually expanding based on good management, how thin does the NRL want to spread the crowds? The whole sport needs a PR rebrand and repositioning before it should even think of expansion…
AFL have to waste 10s of millions of dollars perpetually propping up the Lions, Giants and Suns. RL has expansion bids proving they can pay their own way and paying a licence fee.
@@titoelcolombiano the broadcast rights pay for the Sun's and the Giants. The AFL is evangelical, while Rugby League needs to shed its siege mentality
@@titoelcolombiano That's because they have money to burn. The NRL doesn't, and the AFL think long term.
AFL wanted to have North Melb relocate to Gold Coast. But at last minute they pulled out. So AFL had to launch a new team to make it 17th. Then they needed a way to make it even, so they went for Western Sydney which also tries to service Canberra. Now they got sucked into (and spooked by basketball's success) into a 19th Tasmanian team. Not sure how they will get a 20s. I'm not convinced that Darwin or Canberra are good ideas.
@@BDub2024 Darwin is a sleeping goldmine for Indigenous players and the cultural reputation of the game. If they do pull that off, it will make the NRL look even more behind
Perth bears and PNG
Don’t get the bears or jets back. The expansion teams need to be their own identity.
I want Perth but not the Bears, West Aussies want their own unique team, Bears have nothing to do with WA. Needs to be unique. The Aussie government needs to help PNG set up some better pathways in PNG first. A country like PNG should be producing more NRL players than it does, scattered throughout the comp, that will improve the Kumuls. Maybe add another Q cup team and some in NSW cup first might be an option.
That's why I think they should just bring back the Western Reds. That's what Perth people will link up to...
@@jamesbutler8852 What Character? Large Red Kangaroo? What about the "Western Stingrays"? Any others people can think of?
Perth don't care if its relocated. But if the commentators keep on going on about the return of North Sydney then it will wear thin with the PErth market. They don't care about Sydney traditional clubs. I don't know how to avoid all the N Sydney Newtown hype.
@@skillmeup53 Stingrays or just rays would be good, Perth Hurricanes, Perth Blaze, Perth Crushers
yeah, the thing is Sydney will dicate what you are and how you are about it. You never will be just 'perth' wholy and souly
Relocate a few Sydney teams, solved.
Shove the Sydney teams where the sun doesn't shine. 4 teams in Sydney, Western Sydney, Perth (Western Reds), Darwin, PNG, Pacific, Sth West Qld, Country Qld and Country NSW. All ready Melbourne, Canberra, Newcastle, Warriors and then 4 Qld teams at present. Finally a true National RL.
Adelaide Roosters
PNG Sharks or the Moresby Sea Eagles.
@@john-i5i5k lol like in snobart 😂
Establish the PNG compound now for the current QLD CUP comp for proof of concept and to get the ball rolling
Would like to see Perth, SA and 2nd nz side. I don’t understand why we need more nsw teams. We should be taking over Australia, nz and beyond in to the English super league.
relocated clubs into PErth are ok. But the NRL needs to be really careful to down play the N Sydney or Newtown tradition or they will lose people in PErth who just don't care about Sydney.
As a Papua New Guinean, we are off without having an NRL too, NRL hasn't been conducive to PNG over the years, most of our players are dominating Super League, in the next 5 to 10 years time, we are sure to dominate the Super League so we doing fine, give the 18th team to An australian Team
Samtin blo Australia givim long Australia. Why Yumi wok long putim skin long nrl tumas!
@@markokuk327 i know too many clown form PNG in the comment carrying on like what they feel actually matters to the govermnet. the man with the money is the one who calls the shots - not some sc um bag po s child from the village.
@@markokuk327 nrl is the top dog in the game uk league dont matter lol
@@dusmangi It doesn't matter whether it is a top sport. It's an Australian thing. They are in control.
It would be way more safer to play in Bali or East Timor then Port Moresby.
It's not that bad 😂
If the Perth team played a few"home" games in Bali, they'd pull in a decent crowd
Fiji 🇫🇯 got over 100k players ready to play in NRL Competition
Fiji's population is 100000
Lol
No it's 1 million @@Changedagain
what the team, Chennai Knights?
lol png cant even get into the nrl what makes you think fiji can 😂
What’s up with a Alices springs team bud that would awesome bloke
I’ve never seen or heard Gal laughed so hard after a Gus comment..🤣
he laughs harder at himself tbf
Best part about nrl expansion is i feel like there are some great players deserving of starter spots that are currently not getting enough playing time. It will be great for all fans.
On the other hand, clubs will have less depth and talent is more spread, which has its downsides. But going to an even number of clubs is better anyway.
Should be the Perth Numbats, or the Perth Swans, something actually WA related.
Exactly. There's a franchise proposal of the Perth Pirates. That's just embarrassingly stupid. The Reds or Swans is perfect.
Perth Bears have already been declared as joining in 2025.
It has to be Perth. The young grades have great talent with no feeder opportunities.
Perth, Adelaide, Darwin.
Perth, Christchurch, Adelaide or south west Brisbane
Ringleader western
forget about darwin. they shouldnt be AFL even.
Yes, Maybe, No
Adelaide
Bring back Adelaide Rms or western reds
Bring back the North Sydney Bears ❤
My husband says give the meekathara meerkats a go.
Btw, they are not a real team he just likes saying it.
Take good care of your husband love..
I like the Noongar Numbats. Embrace the indigenous.
@@BDub2024 lol there everywhere in the pilbra now working in the mines nar make that newman newcomers lol
@@BDub2024 running game would out smart most nrl teams💪
Player managers are going to be so very happy.
Counting heads and headstones haha dam right. Everybody used to have a bit of a soft spot for the Bears back in the day. But let Perth be Perth and have its own franchise. Otherwise you are going to have a push to have Bears games at North Sydney oval, forget it. WA and Perth is amazing, time zones work perfectly for TV, let them do it their way so the WA locals get behind it.
is it so hard to start a comp on the west coast?
Relocate North Sydney to Perth, Newtown to Adelaide and Glebe to Darwin i guess problem solved
I don't know about bears fans, but you relocate my team, and I walk away from the NRL entirely, I don't support NRL, I support my team.
Then you'd support them when they come out to Sydney, just saying
@@Youser57 Nope. they move them, they aren't my team anymore, are they,
just saying.
but, ur teams doesnt exist without the NRL, its like saying you want to be paid a salary and not even have a job lol And the Bears are you r team sure, i get the connection there but, it would be good to see them still represented by white australians right? meaning, its still an australian team, its just not a nth sydney team?
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 If you relocate my team. my team doesn't exist. now it is someone elses team.
and no, the Bears aren't my team.
Also without the supporters, the NRL doesn't exist as they have no product to sell to advertisers.
Spoke to mate down in Invercargill and said for the first time ever more kids are signing up to play league. Predominantly rugby community. I remember back in 80’s league was big down there, but as soon as you got to high school you could only play union. That’s the reason kids stop playing.
I'd love to see the Bears returning as a Sydney team, playing every home game at an upgraded North Sydney Oval rather than being based on the other side of the country.
Australia is fighting Chinas influence in PNG , cutting tax for 15 x 400k salaries is a cost not a loss for them
I’m not sure if the panel realises the scale of government spending and action in the pacific to counter China. Some tax incentives are nothing.
@@nicholasbradley-qalilawa2934 couldn't agree more and they've left it too late. But PNGs national sport is league and it's a good bit of propoganda for Australian relations.
On a side note - I reckon you'll be surprised how many players would live on the island !
@@nibskewonyeah I agree it annoyed me how Gal said nobody would wanna move there like it’s a fact. A lot of people like myself are cultured and love travelling and meeting new people and you’d be a rockstar as a footy player in PNG. I reckon loads would move
@@nibskewon I agree, I actually think it would be a killer experience
When Melbourne came into the comp they wanted salary cap dispensation to attract players. Dispensation was not approved. Their initial squad contained seven internationals. Melbourne Storm eventually got busted for cheating the salary cap.
If players don't want to relocate to Australia's second largest city with all it has to offer on the same money, it seems unlikely they will be willing to relocate with their families to PNG and live in a compound in sweltering heat. It will be like Storm players living in a compound in Queensland during Covid, but hotter and less safe.
For a PNG team to be viable, the players might have to be based in North Queensland and fly into PNG for home games.
I think they should bring in one of those teams which were around during the 90’s. You have the North Sydney Bears that existed or even bring back the Hunter Mariners, South Queensland Crushers, Western Reds or Adelaide Rams.
PNG Team.. training camp based in Cairns, development & matches in Pt Morseby
How about us central coast people 😢
If you live in the north support the knights, if in the south support manly lol
do you have $60B ?
A 2 conference NRL is on the cards and I'm all for it. I think it would be a huge success.
NSW conference:
Canterbury
Parramatta
St George Illawarra
South Sydney
Roosters
Wests Tigers
Cronulla Sharks
Penrith Panthers
Canberra
Newcastle
Manly
National conference:
Brisbane
Nth Queensland
Dolphins
Gold Coast
Western Bears
Melbourne Storm
Auckland Warriors
Sth Island Kea
PNG
Top 4 from each conference goes into the national finals series.
There's more teams in the NSW conference because if you took Newcastle and Canberra away from playing the Sydney teams, that would kill a lot of interest and possibly kill the club. The teams outside of NSW have less teams thus a higher chance of being in the finals and I would consider that compensation for having to travel further every other week in their competition.
You can't kull or merge any more Sydney teams. Too many have gone already. At a push, you could introduce another QLD team or reluctantly bring in an Adelaide team but I don't think they would be a success.
A dedicated few weeks for men's and woman's NSW v QLD and an Islands origin. Tonga - NZ - Samoa.
Instead of bringing in a new team, can’t we just kick out Souths?
@@tomasgreen77 South Sydney Slugs
Unlikely souths have a huge following, If any team in Sydney goes it should be wests.
New Zealander here. New Zealand also isn't near another NRL franchise. Also the Warriors have become a national team. Excuse the comparison, (and yes I know the Wahs don't have as much success yet) but I feel like the new New Zealand franchise will face an uphill battle like the Los Angeles Clippers.
Now that you've mentioned it, I think you're right. When the mention of a 2nd NZ team came about a handful of jounos and league experts were worried, it would cannibalize the Wahs.
@JRPete Exactly. But also a consistent talent pool in New Zealand isn't huge for two franchises. I'd rather focus on the talent in NZ and grow it, than rely on overseas talent to fill that gap.
@@uluafaese8393 same goes for png but nz warriors havent won a grand final since bro
@@JRPete The Wahs play once a year in the South Island, its hardly like there is massive revenue for the team coming out of the island.
And the talent pool is massive in NZ, its just that most players head to Australia. If we could retain them then who knows.
There is no downside to our country in advocating for a 2nd team based here. Even if it fails it is better to have tried than to just say "Nah, 5 and a half million people is not enough for 2 clubs, we don't deserve that"
I mean, look at Auckland FC, plenty of fans have changed from Nix fans. We can't have a good sporting culture here if people never want to nurture it, and instead want to kill it before anything could potentially happen.
Truth be told, PNG people are passionate about their footy. You'll never see crowds reactions anywhere else in the world like PNGs. NRL Players will have the best time of their life here. They will be safe here. But I agree with Gus, we PNG need a lot of work before thinking about entering into NRL. Saddest part is its Government driven so i wouldn't be suprised if it is rushed into it.
Only answer should be PERTH !!! so many Kiwis expats and Aussie will get behide it, BUT do not do PERTH dirty and make them link up with a team from the EAST. or the Perth people will not fully get behide !!!. Kiwis will send their Kids to Perth as they will have Family their
In my opinion it would be the South Island Kea (2nd kiwi team) and Perth. I'd be very surprised if PNG somehow can get a team despite most of them not wanting one for obvious reasons.
Nrl should make pathways in PNG and those players should be put into a draft system, we’ll need more players especially when we eventually have 20 teams
Like idea of a 2nd nz team. But mainly cos kiwi. An think could do it. Kiwis n every team n oz. Got one side. Not doin that well right now.
I know rubgy union has a side called Moana Pasifica, which is the super rugby side for all the small pacific nations such as Tonga and Samoa. I am suprised something like this isnt considered in the NRL. You could even play some games in Tonga and Samoa, kind of like how the Tigers play across different grounds to keep.thwir fans happh.
too much colourism in sydney thats why.
Have to be the bears
but why are they saying jets now?
Dunno why they don’t bring a team to the Northern Rivers, NRL players would love living in Byron Bay and so much talent here
Mushrooms and soy latte diet
Why would you continue to put new teams in New South Wales or Queensland. Neither grows the game at all, it just cuts the existing money and talent pool into thinner slices.
@@troystaunton254 definitely grows the game when there’s a lot of untapped talent here that does not get utilised, players like Tyrone Roberts, Jimmy the jet, Amos Roberts, James and Mitchell Aubusson, Matt King, Nick Meaney, Daine Laurie, Brian Kelly just to name a few are from here and growing up here I can tell you there were players that were meant to be superstars over them that just didn’t get a crack or not enough resources unless you travel up to the Gold Coast.
@@mitchhammond6321 it’s not a bad diet
@@briannnn98 never happen, there would be no money for it and even less people in the area to justify it.
PNG and a QRL teams should merged to field a team for a shared home games and a training base up north. Good for the game, like the DRUA's in Rugby
There is already enough teams in Australia. Give it to New Zealand
Why?
Nope win a premiership first
Did you even watch the Warriors game last week? We can't even field one competitive team, let alone two.
@@khankake9576 yeah I did, um did you know, close to 2 million people watched the super rugby final last week
It won't work in Christchurch or Wellington
Here’s my two cents
I think Papua New Guinea would be a great team for the Australia National Rugby League, Because Rugby league is the National sport in Papua New Guinea and it would bring tourists and tourism in to the beautiful tropical country, every single game there in the country would be a sell out all season long, and also Papua New Guinea’s QLD cup team would then have an NRL affiliate because at the the moment they don’t have one
Perth city on the west coast of Australia would be kind of tough because AFL, Soccer, and cricket is most popular over there and I don’t think the Perth bears would work, but I think the Perth Pirates or West Coast Pirates would have more zing in it , sure they played some NRL games in Perth but also a state of origin game over there too, but Perth used to have a rugby league team in the ARL called the western reds but as far as I know, they didn’t do too well but there are some talented rugby league players from there, and also the problem I find with Perth is the time difference meaning if a perth based game is on live on Friday night and the broadcast transmissions airs at 7:30pm for example in the east coast (QLD, NSW, Victoria, etc it will be live at 9:30pm and even more late in New Zealand
North Sydney Bears would also be a good edition to return to The National Rugby League Because they were founded in 1908 the year rugby league Australia was established and they are in the still active in the originally called New South Wales rugby league, which is now called the Knock on effect New South Wales Cup, and they won two season premierships in the 1920s and Ivan Cleary (Nathan Clearly father and the coach the Three in a row premieres the Penrith panthers) was on the north Sydney bears team
The Newtown jets would be an interesting edition because the are one of the original teams of the NSW rugby league and are still active in the Knock on effect NSW cup, and in the early days they got three Season premierships, but the only thing is that I don’t like their emblem, it just looks like it hasn’t been updated in years, Newtown Please, Please, Please forgive me, and there’s no picture of a jet in it, but it is good for a heritage/retro round
South Island Kea, ok this is a tough one, 1. The country would be Split in to rivalry in two different regions, 2. The New Zealand warriors would be renamed to north island warriors or the Auckland warriors, because the warriors were so popular all over New Zealand the renames themselves the New Zealand warriors, and New Zealand is a beautiful country too, I will admit, and 3. There would be a New Zealand Derby, twice a year and the rivalry could get out of control, but it would also mean a lot of tourists in the South Island
Overall my decision is the Papua New Guinea Team and the North Sydney Bear
And that is my two cents, you are entitled to your own opinion, and I am not gonna disrespect or dispute, all thoughts are my own and my words are final.
how about a second melbourne team right inthe heart of afl territory storms have a cult following it seems
@@dusmangi that seems like a possibility, Melbourne Storm entered the NRL since it’s first season and they won four season premierships (as of 2024), and they are still going strong.
@@braydenbrown379 agreed and thats my point Melb. storms was a stroke of genius great marketing and a great setup right from the start everything clicked as it was meant to happen Think the nrl should have the 2nd team then possible wait & see on perth png and nzs 2nd team other states such as n.t s.a are jus not enough fanbase The nrl would want to get it right once The super league was a mess & it may have given the nrl the cold feet to setup teams in those states lol
18th Team: Perth Jets/Pirates (2027)
19th Team: Central Coast Bears (2029)
20th Team: South Island Orcas (2031)
Perth Bears makes sense. Look at Brisbane Lions they won Premierships
this is National Rugby League so we should be getting teams in places where there is no nrl teams like western Australia & south Australia
PNG players could be based in Cairns where they train and live and have home games in PNG?
South Island should be before PNG. Honestly, the NRL should be planning for a 3 team NZ presence. The stronger NZ is, the stronger the game will get as it makes for an increasingly more interesting Aus-NZ international series.
png has to be there nzl, perth is ausie team😭😭
Instead of PNG, make it Pacific Islands. Play across the region. PNG, Samoa, Fiji etc. Base franchise facilities in more attractive location than PNG.
good idea👍
Interesting to see if the powers-that-be will consider it just to mirror the Super Rugby team Moana Pasifika.
@@Samizouza true but nrls real threat is afl having another melb. team should be an option look at hows storms are winning on& off field for yonks now warriors have not ru is boring lol
@@Samizouza if there nrl is looking for an 18th team should be in melb. they should get the preference over perth as much as i like a png team to join theres evidence there : storms its a no brainer
@@Samizouza btw hate the storms anyway lol
Not sure why you're showing Optus Stadium when talking about a Perth team?
The Perth side won't be playing there.
We need fewer teams not more. Get rid of these historic Sydney inner city teams like Easts and Souths, combine Canterbury and Saint George, combine Parramatta and Wests. That leaves Manly, Cronulla, Parra, Penrith, and a combined Saints/Canterbury in Sydney, with four in Queensland, Newcastle, Melbourne, Canberra, New Zealand. That's 13 out of the present 17 clubs. That's a good competition and allows for three more clubs from Perth, Pacific and a relocated Easts/Souths to Adelaide. There aren't enough true first grade players to. staff any more than 16 teams.
but how do you get fewer clubs and get clubs to agree. they won't agree in AFL either. AFL has given up merging clubs. They've tried to relocate clubs like North but they refuse to go despite being proppd up by the AFL. The AFL just don't want the heat from fans anymore. Is the NRL the same?
That's stupid you want to get rid of historic foundation clubs with big supporter bases, Also merging Canterbury and Dragons makes no sense, maybe if you said Cronulla and Dragons it would be more reasonable since Cronulla are located in between St George and Wollongong. If anything Wests should just be demoted to NSW cup the team has been a mess for over 10 years now.
@@davidpickford. I don't know if the NRL has ever given big incentives for clubs in Sydney to merge. AFL tried for years and it couldn't get over the line. I'm amazd that NRL managed to get some mergers done 20 or so years ago.
Change the Tigers back to the Magpies.
Bring in PNG
the ole pies aye
Western Reds would be weird I associate Red and Reds with QLD
Plenty of professional Australian sporting clubs have the same moniker as clubs in other domestic leagues. The AFL and NRL both have Tigers and Bulldogs, used to both have Bears and Magpies. Perth Heat in Baseball, Brisbane Heat in BBL etc
Besides, the Western Reds refers to the Roo, the Queensland Reds refers to the colour
Ringleader western coast
Catchy nick _"Western Reds"_
Reds is for a red kangaroo. I associate Heat with Perth Heat. But you've also got a team in another sport called Brisbane Heat.
lol one an animal the other a colour but sure go hard
18. Perth team
19. South Island NZ team
20. Re instate the Bears or a Fiji team
Put a team in Bali
As a PNGean...I still think we are not yet ready to put a team in the NRL. We do not have any Jr development programe in place to nurture and grow players. I agree, we don't have the infrastructure, resources. And Gals concern is on point, how many players would wanna stay in PNG in a compound? We still have a longway to go before we put a team in the NRL..
Id have a second team out of Auckland, called the Auckland Giants, and let the rest of New Zealand have the fuckin 'wahs'😅
😂😂😂 or Send the Wahs to Perth😂
Here’s an idea. Maybe the Kiwis could build their own competition rather than bludge off ours.
@@DeepseaSteve I’m Aussie but have you not seen all the kiwi players in the comp a lot of them big names they are not bludging off our comp and the population of NZ is like 4-5 million around the same as Sydney alone
@@DeepseaSteveshow us on the doll where the bad man hurt u bro🤦♂️🤦♂️😂🤣😂🤣
@@DeepseaSteve The Warriors kept the nrl afloat during Covid mate.
New Zealand please
I would like PNG team to be the next team in but Perth, Adelaide, Darwin and a 2nd NZ team. A PNG team would be better off based out of Cairns and then take games to PNG
Perth Jets
Central Coast Bears
Second Team in New Zealand
Simples
Then down the track in like 40-50 years if they want to go to 24 teams which would be ideal in terms of a NATIONAL Competition you could go-
Adelaide
Second team in Melbourne
Darwin over PNG
And Cairns
That would cover all bases
There will be no more teams in regional NSW. You need less not more. Why is there suddenlly talk about the Jets instead of the Bears. Melbourne should definitely not have a second team. There are too many teams in the NRL as it is.
@@BDub2024 You do realise the NRL have openly said they want a 20 team comp in the next decade right?
@@CamElRodriguezSnrJnrIII Its too many. Even the AFL don't want it and they have more fans and there is more money in AFL than NRL. But for AFL they got duped into Tasmania (19th) due to pressure and how basketball took over the state due to the jack jumpers.
@@BDub2024 If only you were on the ARL board or you were Peter Vlandys 😂😂😂
PNG needs to be in the comp. Based in Cairns , playing in png , a la west tigers , 4-5 times a year.
Players WILL play for them as it’s nrl exposure. My biggest fear is it would be a transit lounge , to other clubs.
Cairns crime rate is 50% higher than the average. Why is no one saying they’d (players) like in a compound in Cairns?
the NRL has more money than the average homme owner in cairns - i think they can afford protection - ur not living in New Caledonia chap
You need another New Zealand team look at the Wahs even wen they are playing $hlt the stadium has more people in it than most games in Australia
you need to ask aunty jacinda for some kiwi dollars first lool the NRL is not a charity case for kiwis.
As a North Sydney Bears fan there is no way I can support a Perth team. PNG is the only Bears team I could support because they wouldn't be Australian based.
Ringleader western coast club
Sorry the bears, should be on the central coast and a new team created from scratch, especially if NZ has a second team. Scrap the PNG team unless based in Cairns as no one will want to live in Port Moresby. In a cost of living crises, I find it disgusting that they are willing to use $600 million for a a rich NRL.
Tbh NZ shouldn’t have a second team , their first team haven’t got a ring yet lol
NRL and Australian/US government you can achieve what you want in a better way. Plonking an 18th team in port moresby will not work in the long run because right now we are not ready for it.
A better way is to use that money ($600M) administered by the NRL to fund PNGs national competition currently called the Digicel cup and publicise the hell out of the good deed you are doing.
A rising tide lifts all boats. The local digicel cup players have a chance to be full time professionals on a livable wage. This then has flow on effects to the local economy and is an easier pathway for youth to set goals to achieve. Naturally coaching and player quality will improve and from there you will have more NRL players contracted from PNG.
The better gauge to determine whether a PNG team will be successful is when the average PNG person can afford tickets to a game.This is a whole different matter where the PNG government really has to weed out corruption, improve policing, public transport etc etc and generally improve the economy and governance as a whole.
As a Papua New Guinean i would love my own NRL team....but maybe in another 10 yrs time.
they problem is ur government sweet child. Have you looked at the state of ur countrys politis lately? something tells me you havent.
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 have you read and understood what I've written?
What about a New Zealand South Island team , a team from america and a perth team 🤔
nz has a team. sit down with ur greed. lol just be patient - you alreay have one you have one since 95 in the SL and then in 2001 back in the nrl.
Perth, NZ South Island, and 3rd Brisbane team would be the best options for 20 team comp. Adelaide doesn't have the following and noone is going to want to live in PNG
Why’s Ipswich not in the conversation
because no one has come out officially to pleadge financial support for that idea. I mean, on that logic why doesn't every town in QLD deserve a team in the NRL? does that make sense to you
Why would you do conferences?
Exactly, conferences ruined Super Rugby
People who propose Conferences for Australian leagues, habitually propose Conferences with lopsided travel burdens for one Conference and Bus trips for the other