13:02 The whole FF 3 situation TMM was trying to explain was pretty funny. His chat be smoking some mad stuff sometimes tbh. I wish TMM would've grinded them a bit more. FF 3 is REACTABLE? Are you serious? Yeonarang ate a bunch of ff3's and he is a tournament level player. Reads and reactions are far from the same, reactions are actually SEEING the animation of a move. There's no telegraph on a FF 3 and a Hellsweep, if you block it that's not a REACTION that's a READ cuz you predicted the opponent's timing when he's gonna use it. A competent Kazuya will vary his timing with those moves, good luck reacting to it. EDIT: Watch the sequence at 21:05 This will explain everything.
Gotta remember his chat is 90% below red ranks so its mostly ignorance Edit: This isnt shade being thrown, his chat is literally just filled with lower ranks that get most of their knowledge from TMM.
@@jammaj5426 They're greens AFAIK. The thing is with these players is they shouldn't have very strong convictions to what they believe in. They're new to the game, this people in his chat keeps pushing this idea that it can be reacted to. As a new fighting game player, people should be like a sponge to information. Soak it in and learn from other people, that's how you get better. Being humble and learning from mistakes can take you places, that's the very essence of fighting games and his chat is the opposite of it.
It's reactable in the sense that if you're hard ducking and looking for ff3, you can react to it. The same way that stature kick is reactable etc, doesn't mean they're consistently reactable like a snake edge or something.
Oh man. Ff3 SEEMS like its reactable. Maybe if youre in a flow state level of focus, i can see it being reactable. Ive had moments like those. But by and large ff3 and hellsweeps are a certified 50/50.
Knee is just on another level. Watch evo and you’ll realize that he’s incomparable. He has even exceeded arslan’s level as of today by dominating khan and no loss throughout all his matches on the tournament. Knee is Tekken.
Arsalan fans will always live in the past, always bringing how many ft2s Arsalan has won against Knee and vice versa but never compare how much long set Arsalan has lost against Knee and vice versa.... LMAO
I’m definitely warming up to the idea of Boa being the best Kazuya due to his recent tournaments but I don’t think it’s open shut. He still hasn’t beat choksae or knee in the mirror. Knees Kazuya in tournaments also does great and Choksae doesn’t compete as much anymore. But when he does his Kazuya is smooth. What’s tricky about this conversation is that opponents that Boa can’t beat with Kazuya Knee can but the same thing can be said in reverse like Boa beating Arslan with Kazuya where knee failed.
@@IvanOrdell Exactly. And styles make fights so even when you use the same character as a counter-pick, you're not guaranteed to win. Boa can beat Arslan because he's truly willing to die by enforcing the Hellsweep, whereas in Evo 2019, you could tell that Knee was scared to 50/50 Arslan and be wrong. Boa was willing to be wrong and that's why he can win against Arslan with Kazuya whereas Knee failed. You can draw the parallel, but it's not exactly 1-to-1 because Boa's tournament character is Kazuya and Knee only uses him as a single tool in his proverbial toolbox.
@@IvanOrdell That’s true but all that tells us is that boa is a Kazuya main. If we put all 3 of them in a tournament and said you can only pick Kazuya I believe(opinion) Knee and Choksae would do slightly better. Plus that counter only applies to Knee and not Choksae. 2 years ago TMM and everyone on this channel considered Choksae the best all around Kazuya Player. He has the setups of CDP the explosiveness of Boa and great matchup Knowledge from being a veteran to the game.
Could you imagine if he just decided to start Shang Tsung'n people? He just goes through the entire tournament only using the last character he beat. Like if anyone could plausibly do it, it would be him 😂😂
I wonder if MainMan is moonlighting some weather forecasts for youtube hidden commercials... bever seen any gamer speaks so much abput weather at the beginning of a video.
Mr. Scrupman, who told you he is the best Kazuya in the world?! I agree if you tell he is one of the best. But not the best. What is about Choksae? Knee? And other Kazuyas?
even knee takes so many hits, goes to show that Kazuya's 50/50 crap is just unreadable. all you CAN do is guess right, reacting is not a reality with Kazuya.
Tmm saying hwoarang and kazuya are opposed is Interesting to me imo they do the same thing but hwoarang is a lot of lower risk and lower damage lows while kazuya is high risk high reward from the low mix up
Whosoever chooses his character second has the advantage as he can see what his opponent has chosen. So at the competitive level, how do they neutralize this? I am not talking about this particular scenario, where it was obvious Kazuya would be chosen as the guy is the best with it, but in general.
I'm waiting to the last second to choose my char if I'm going against Knee in tourneys. He'll have probably already scouted me out but waiting till the last second to choose characters will whittle down his counter pick options
You have to watch BOA vs Real devil mirror match up a few days ago(twitch jeondding) First to 3 and 10, and BOA totally lost to him. Real devil is one of the hidden best kazuya from Korea
This just makes it even more impressive that TheMainManSWE beat Knee at the EVO 2022 grand finals. Well played, MainMan.
TMM doesn't beat shit
Eazy Peazy You beat TMM? Or got beaten?
@@whutthehell dont be jelly, mainman best kazuya/best tekken 7 player and its FAXXX
@@KillerInstinct1 scrupman sucks ass
@@multivact3729 scrupman sucks ass
6:36 the water drink is hilarious, he knows he's in for a cutscene combo
he does it several times lmao like he's playing ranked or something
you know he's the best kazuya when he starts drinking water in the middle of the fight 4:08
Lmao imagined if knee dropped and got free oki afterwards
Then woke up with hellsweep lol…
Oh i got hellsweeped, time to take a drink..
Lmao
Knee has TAS level defense right now.
I’m undefeated against Knee
That's why he was running from khan in the last round of Evo 2022 like a pussy lmao 🤣
@@langtonyeah9669 cap 🧢
I've never played against Knee so he hasnt beat me. Therefore, I'm undefeated against Knee. Algebra m8.
After evo this is easier to believe. His defense was unreal.
Knees rival elbow will arise to take the title
13:02
The whole FF 3 situation TMM was trying to explain was pretty funny. His chat be smoking some mad stuff sometimes tbh. I wish TMM would've grinded them a bit more. FF 3 is REACTABLE? Are you serious? Yeonarang ate a bunch of ff3's and he is a tournament level player. Reads and reactions are far from the same, reactions are actually SEEING the animation of a move. There's no telegraph on a FF 3 and a Hellsweep, if you block it that's not a REACTION that's a READ cuz you predicted the opponent's timing when he's gonna use it. A competent Kazuya will vary his timing with those moves, good luck reacting to it.
EDIT: Watch the sequence at 21:05 This will explain everything.
Gotta remember his chat is 90% below red ranks so its mostly ignorance
Edit: This isnt shade being thrown, his chat is literally just filled with lower ranks that get most of their knowledge from TMM.
@@jammaj5426 They're greens AFAIK. The thing is with these players is they shouldn't have very strong convictions to what they believe in. They're new to the game, this people in his chat keeps pushing this idea that it can be reacted to. As a new fighting game player, people should be like a sponge to information. Soak it in and learn from other people, that's how you get better. Being humble and learning from mistakes can take you places, that's the very essence of fighting games and his chat is the opposite of it.
TMM has trolls in his chat, don't take those too seriously.
It's reactable in the sense that if you're hard ducking and looking for ff3, you can react to it. The same way that stature kick is reactable etc, doesn't mean they're consistently reactable like a snake edge or something.
Oh man. Ff3 SEEMS like its reactable.
Maybe if youre in a flow state level of focus, i can see it being reactable. Ive had moments like those.
But by and large ff3 and hellsweeps are a certified 50/50.
Incredible matches, and it’s so good to watch them with themainman’s comments.
Knee is just on another level. Watch evo and you’ll realize that he’s incomparable. He has even exceeded arslan’s level as of today by dominating khan and no loss throughout all his matches on the tournament. Knee is Tekken.
What's Knee's head to head vs. Arslan?
I’m way better then Knee
@@grzib lol
Arsalan fans will always live in the past, always bringing how many ft2s Arsalan has won against Knee and vice versa but never compare how much long set Arsalan has lost against Knee and vice versa.... LMAO
@@neolog602 the only time anyone can win is in small sets ala tournament settings, knee beats literally everyone if the sets are any longer
Can't believe MainMan has managed a 100% win rate against Knee in tournaments. Truly the GOAT of the people.
Watching a Kazuya this good is like watching a Painter creating it's masterpiece.
I’m definitely warming up to the idea of Boa being the best Kazuya due to his recent tournaments but I don’t think it’s open shut. He still hasn’t beat choksae or knee in the mirror. Knees Kazuya in tournaments also does great and Choksae doesn’t compete as much anymore. But when he does his Kazuya is smooth. What’s tricky about this conversation is that opponents that Boa can’t beat with Kazuya Knee can but the same thing can be said in reverse like Boa beating Arslan with Kazuya where knee failed.
Best kazuya players IMO:Knee(1A) Choksae(2 or 1b) 3.Boa/ CDP 4. Keisuke 5. Ikari or CBM. Honorable mentions: Aek, kodee,JDCR with CrossUp.
The thing is that Knee doesn't use Kazuya in most tournament matches, whereas Boa does. So we can't really draw a parallel.
@@IvanOrdell Exactly. And styles make fights so even when you use the same character as a counter-pick, you're not guaranteed to win. Boa can beat Arslan because he's truly willing to die by enforcing the Hellsweep, whereas in Evo 2019, you could tell that Knee was scared to 50/50 Arslan and be wrong. Boa was willing to be wrong and that's why he can win against Arslan with Kazuya whereas Knee failed. You can draw the parallel, but it's not exactly 1-to-1 because Boa's tournament character is Kazuya and Knee only uses him as a single tool in his proverbial toolbox.
@@IvanOrdell That’s true but all that tells us is that boa is a Kazuya main. If we put all 3 of them in a tournament and said you can only pick Kazuya I believe(opinion) Knee and Choksae would do slightly better. Plus that counter only applies to Knee and not Choksae. 2 years ago TMM and everyone on this channel considered Choksae the best all around Kazuya Player. He has the setups of CDP the explosiveness of Boa and great matchup Knowledge from being a veteran to the game.
Choksae with the amount of rust that’s probably accumulated is still better than BoA.
Could you imagine if he just decided to start Shang Tsung'n people? He just goes through the entire tournament only using the last character he beat. Like if anyone could plausibly do it, it would be him 😂😂
Legit lol, knee will switch to the main of a character loyalist to beat them in a mirror at tournament finals
That would be badass.
that argument in chat tho, worthy of another video in itself 😂😂
TMI: during Knee's live stream.. a fan asks.. "how many electric can you connect with Kazuya?"
Knee takes a moments and connects 6.
Knee deserved to win the tournament. He played like the God he is. Incredible performance.
Knee has observation haki
boA just casually taking sips out of his bottle inbetween rounds..
2:34 my younger brother complaining about the partiality my mom does between him and me.
this kazuya getting comboed and dryed at same time its wonderfull 4:07
Dude you should watch JDCR vs KNEE mirror match with Armor king. It's super good.
Love seeing boa luvb in tournaments 😎😎
tmm providing while hiking, MASKU
Qudans is the only one who can out-mishima Knee
if you think the heat is bad, always remember we are STILL getting out of an ice age
That annoying weather you were talking about is basically a normal day here 😂
After reading the Title I thought Knee was going to fight Mainmans Kazuya Kappa
that ultimate tackle is a misinput for the iws 1+2
So guys for 1 month we have to watch his 1 month old stream videos nice well done mainman
I’m not hip, why the ki charge after the wall break at 5:56. Is it a timing thing for oki?
knee is just a different tier of a Player. He probably would have won in a kaz mirror as well
Dude , the other guy is drinking water in between beatdowns. Lol
Wow on both ends these guys are nuts👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Knee should be a guest character in Tekken 8, as a Mokujin skin
오 한국 리그까지 리뷰하시는구나~ 대단합니다 b
Meanwhile here in Australia it's been super cold because it's winter 😂
I basically play like this Kazuya but I don't shuffle unnaturally XD
4:10 bruh drinking water while getting combo' d
It's not devil Jin, it's the player
That man is GUZZLING that water
Boa drinks water in every after match lol
Sips water into hell sweep giga chad 4:07
knee got tired of hellsweeps when he played boa with chanel XD
TMM please make a video on your point at 19:00, i would like to improve my Kazuya, I feel that the opponents often react to my mixups
It was truly a Tekken match hits were landed rounds were won, a player won the set truly a matchbof all time
I hate TH-cam I was subbed to you and it took it away so I subbed again !
8:07 Power of Knee
I wonder if MainMan is moonlighting some weather forecasts for youtube hidden commercials...
bever seen any gamer speaks so much abput weather at the beginning of a video.
I love this Tekken 8 Preview
Id like to see Boa and Keisuke go at it in tournament.
Mr. Scrupman, who told you he is the best Kazuya in the world?! I agree if you tell he is one of the best. But not the best. What is about Choksae? Knee? And other Kazuyas?
Still disrespecting Choksae I see….smh
I still think Nene the Dragon is the best Kazuya his movement are insane
His Kazuya is truly a sight to see. Crazy good Kazuya player 🔥🔥
Jajaa no escuchaste de choksae o crazydongpal esos son los mejores del mundo
@@lerikrodrigo4148 true. Nene is damn good but choksae is godlike
knee reads boa like a book
TMM: bruh devil jin is so broken better nerf
I'm American but I'm in France now and it's hot as fuck here too. It's going to be like 37 c in a couple days. Yuck.
What people don’t know is that this is Harada secretly leaking Tekken 8 gameplay
How do you find this matches? Is on you tube?
knee should change his name to mokujin
Teaching me how to play kazuya master ❤❤❤❤
even knee takes so many hits, goes to show that Kazuya's 50/50 crap is just unreadable.
all you CAN do is guess right, reacting is not a reality with Kazuya.
You would melt in Texas lol. 100-105F during the hottest with 80%+ humidity.
twenty two degrees is freezing in the philippines
The best kazuya huh.
Tmm saying hwoarang and kazuya are opposed is Interesting to me imo they do the same thing but hwoarang is a lot of lower risk and lower damage lows while kazuya is high risk high reward from the low mix up
Are there any conversation with Kaz hellsweep? At least the overhead looks safe and can be combo'd on counter hit, but what does sweep have?
Chunky unseeable low, that resets the vortex if landed
Where is your reaction the free update and the tekken 8 teaser
He's hiking now, doesn't have internet connection, and he probably hasn't seen it yet😂
@@NickLotfi 😂😂 unreal dude like I’m waiting for it and he’s still reacting to those fights 😂
What tourney is this anybody got a link for the full thing?
Request To do a breakdown of "Titan" Devil Kazuya Mod.
I thought he was playing with you
still no reaction to tekken 7 teaser and the potential tekken 8 teaser
Cause He aint at home
@Aryan Kaundal oh damn wish i could hike too also thanks for telling me
He's hiking my dude. He said in on stream, that's probably why you missed it. All good tho!
What was that tafak😂😂 9:41
where is his reaction to new tekken teaser? i've been looking for this since i saw it
he is not at home right now. These are prerecorded
40-45° is normal here in Pakistan in summer
Boa must've been peeing after each tournament
Knee fights himself? I don’t get it
Facts lol
It's a mirror match
Knee was beast at EVO 2022 but I was hoping for Arahlan vs Knee but Shadow took it all away.
shad0w and then Khan.
Whosoever chooses his character second has the advantage as he can see what his opponent has chosen. So at the competitive level, how do they neutralize this? I am not talking about this particular scenario, where it was obvious Kazuya would be chosen as the guy is the best with it, but in general.
I'm waiting to the last second to choose my char if I'm going against Knee in tourneys. He'll have probably already scouted me out but waiting till the last second to choose characters will whittle down his counter pick options
Yo TMM are you aware about the announcements in EVO 2022?
You have to watch BOA vs Real devil mirror match up a few days ago(twitch jeondding)
First to 3 and 10, and BOA totally lost to him. Real devil is one of the hidden best kazuya from Korea
what tournament was this pls
what date is that match?
these hellsweep blocks bro
Lol how TMM upload such a video that knee won??? 😂 I thought it is another losing scene
Adrian in long sets Yeonarang always demote boa
Este es mi top de kazuyas
1. Choksae
2. Knee
3. Crazydongpal
4. Boaluv
Whos that mf claiming they react to hellsweeps😂
Which controller Kazuya use?
umm yeah tekken, yeah this is what you do when you want to comment but didn't finish the video.
If Ryder was Asian in San Andreas 10:28
"I react to yoshi's flash" xd
Of course, the low tier hardest character Hwoarang gets beat by the top 8 easy mode Kazuya.
:)
How does top 6 work?
Sex in top 8, 2 first cummers go out . 6 in top 6.
22 C?? I'm at 22 right now and feel a bit cold LOL
14:33 ahahahah pls make it a sub sfx
Why no videos about EVO?
He’s on a hiking trip
2:44 crying like 13 yr old girl.
Now uf4 doesn't knock down and that busted wall combo is fixed. Testament to the grit BoA showed here
amazing.
what do you say about the teaser? 😍
Waiting on the tekken 8 teaser reaction vid lol
Why is he talking about this when EVO just happened?