What are you talking about, that's the irish style,get hit four times and punch back harder with two vicious shot,get hit ten times and fire back two or three even harder shots!!!!! Up real irish blooded micky ward!!!!!! Steve collins!!!!! Barry mcguigan!!!! Tyson fury!!!! Terry flanagan!!!! Walsh!!!!!! Jason quigley!!!! Jon joe nevin !!!!!! Tiocfaidh at la!!!!
I forgot how biased the commentators were in those days. They talk about Benn as if he was an old man, he was just a year older than Collins. They constantly go on about Benn's hard career, compared to Collins, but he only had a few more fights than Collins, and he didn't fight the calibre of fighters Collins fought in America, where he was robbed of 2 wins on very controversial decisions. The only blot on his career was an early loss on points to Mike McCallum, a world champion in 3 different weight divisions, and one of the best pound for pound fighters in any division, when he was only 25. He was never KO'd by anyone, and deserved more recognition that the media gave him credit for.
Jake C Benn fought more wars than Collins which takes its toll in the end Collins waited while Benn was at end of his career Showed his true colours when young fresh JC came along
The reason Collins beat Eubank and Benn is because he never let them set their feet which is exactly how Pavlik beat Taylor. This is a common tactic used by boxers with greater cardiovascular endurance against those with more explosive power.
nonsense, Pavlik had a war with Taylor! Nothing to do with setting his feet. Eubank was a counter puncher with poor balance, if a fighter didn"t "come"onto him he struggled.. Collins better cardio? I would say Benn was as fit as anyone
I cannot understand why people say that Eubank and Benn only lost to Steve Collins because they were too old and past it, do you know that Eubank was younger than Collins and Benn was the same age? Eubank at the time was 28 and Benn was 30 the same age as Collins, yeah yeah they were really old, pathetic.
+Music Music There's was nothing wrong with their form. Eubank was undefeated in the prime of his career. Benn was on a great run, shy of a bad split-decision loss to Malinga. Collins won because he fought harder, and was the better man.
+Sean Ó Briain benn was not the same fighter. Now to look at the records yes you would say he was fine, however, it is very evident to me after watching those bouts, benn does not look the same fighter. One might argue steve collins was the levels above etc,but to me it looks to me like benn's form was not the same as in previous bouts. I am not taking anything away from steve collins however, i am simply stating benn did not look the same, you could argue it tooth and nail, its just my opinion and from what im seeing watching the fights.
It's obviously not the age but the fact that Benn was a shot fighter ... take Jones and Calzaghe - same age but Calzaghe deliberate it took the fight only when he knew Jones was a spent force :(
Steve Collins had the heart of a lion. His style wasn't the easiest on the eye. But he just kept coming forward. He suffocated the likes of Benn and Eubank because he wanted it more. An out and out machine who never took a backward step.
And showed what he was when joe calazage appeared fresh not diminished by ring wars Collins ran away hide shitting himself you must see highly over rated in Eubank fights the fresh air took a beating from Colin's Eubank dropped him let him recover most think Eubank won crowd cheer Colin's wild attacks when 1 out of barrage of wild swings land
Brendan W And Colin’s the coward showed his true colours when young fresh fighter appeared ( Joe Calazaghe) he shit himself feared the beating ran away such a brave act
@BestCanKeanRob2 eubank was 2 years younger than collins and unbeaten at the time benn was the same age so hardly past it also collins was fighting at middle weight and in America he moved up in weight to fight them as for calzaghe he was better than all three without a doubt but at the time he was only an up and coming fighter collins wanted the roy jones jr fight which he never got he retired after that
GJ1607 what he said was I wasn’t sure how to approach fight how I lost decision is a mystery judges must have being drunk in first I still think Collins performance was over rated in both eubank fights wildly swinging missed with far more than he landed first eubank clearly had Watson in his mind let Steve off after knock down
I agree, Benn was never the same again after the McClellan fight, by the time Collins got him he was a shadow of his former self. Collins even said it was a shame he didn't fight Benn a few years earlier.
Rodolfo Hernan that’s a bit of an exaggeration fought benn who was in decline Eubank let him off the hook clear memoirs of Watson Collins ran away when joe calazaghe came along
Collins never really got much credit in the game. I've read people's comments below, and I don't know why they can't just accept that Collins was the better man on the night. That's the sport. I do think Benn wasn't training properly, but so what? He lost because on the night he wasn't good enough and Collins was. Third fight will be interesting, and I'll bet you anything you like, that Eubank comes out to fight the winner. I'd love a Benn Eubank three. (that sounded wrong haha)
Well he used the Hypnotiser for the first fight, he beat him twice you know. Roy Jones offered him a fight for 3 million after he retired, but he said he had to fight Calzaghe (who was up and comin at the time) first. Collins start training for the Calzaghe fight when he collapsed. He did get checked. And he retired on the spot.
Collins was a good infighter and counterpuncher. If you fought in close you can take a set puncher's power from him. Also, Collins had a steel chin so Benn could not hurt him. Collins was neutralized by a very good boxer in McCallum. But Benn was not a boxer, therefore he was easy to hit.
Bens last pay day , Steve Collins fought a great fight both times against Ben and Eubanks at the right time but when it came down to defending he’s title against a fighter in he’s prime he bottled it as he had already made he’s money
SistorCarrera it’s a well known fact Collins bottled fighting JC a good judge just wasn’t in the same league good fighting boxers at end of career or nobody’s joe put fear in Collins he bottled it plain and simple
How long have you being dating colins the coward had to have his nappy changed when he was told to fight calazaghe he would have being shown for what he was good fighting nobodies and shoot fighters
Collins was a middleweight world champion when he moved up to fight Eubank. Collins took the fight at short notice and still beat Eubank. In the second fight Collins looks physically stronger because he had a full camp behind him and, imo, beat Eubank soundly. Collins went to fight in America and fought Mike McCallum after only 16 fights, I can't imagine Eubanks ever doing something like that. Collins could box and brawl, as Benn found out. Neutralise Benns power and you've the battle won.
also Mike McCallum rates Collins as having the best chin of anyone he ever fought, he said against Toney he would hit him with the straight right & James would move, he couldn"t budge Stevie Collins.
@@ChrisThornburn-ke5xknonsensical, Collins also dropped Eubank, Collins was a "non puncher", but Eubank had granite chin! These things happen in Boxing! I will take McCallum"s anecdote anytime! He was a fantastic boxer...
dan32113 if you have boxed you can tell difference a flash knockdown or boxer hurt Collins was on very shaky legs it’s the punch that isn’t seen that does most damage Eubank stood off if he would have gone after Collins he would have got stoppage
Benn was never good at defense. And Collins was a really good fighter at this stage of his career. Here he beat Benn to the punch repeatedly. Plus Benn has poor footwork.
Steve collins had head problems because he got punched in it too much. He fought Benn and Eubank when they were on the way out. A slow, easy to hit, fighter with mediocre punching power, like Collins, would be tailor made for Roy Jones. He would get demolished.
Collins will always be a hero in the sport of boxing for exposing Benn and Eubank. He gave them a taste of the punishment they would have received at the hands of RJJ or James Toney.
Everyone knows Nigel Benn was never the same after that Gerald McClellan, War. Steve Collins was a tough fighter but he came at the right time when Benn and Eubank we're not in their Prime.
The decision Toney got over johnson was controversial, and he got off the floor to do it. Benn or Eubank would not have touched Johnson with a ten foot pole, but were content to have have flashy domestic fights against eachother, or bum frings contenders, while defending the spurious WBO title. Barkley and dewitt were made to order for benn.
referee clearly out to disrupt collins from the moment he started to batter benn, is so obvious, no warning about the silly head butt just took a point off and when in the clinch shoved collins way back every time to give benn a breather
Hey Tiny Dicky, First of all, the fighter you are trying to be up on is called Gerald not Gerard. Secondly, the fight was pretty even apart from the first and eighth round. Benn was a great, value for money fighter and above all that, he never lost to an American.
I walked up up to Steve in the beer garden of Dicey Reilly's off my head on E With every body in a semi-circle around him just staring at him and his 3 mates, I stuck out my hand and said "Steve Collins champion of the world congratulations" He looked as if he thought I'd come over to start something(it's Dublin). He shook my hand and said "Cheers bud appreciate it"
Is it just me or does Benn just look utterly f*cked here? It's like he can't move around the ring any more. His body looks like it won't respond properly and his head doesn't seem to be in the game.
+Retro Brothers We were there and it appeared he was there just for a pay day !!!!!!!! I am a Benn fan but was so disappointed ....Great night of boxing though ....
+Julie Jones Yeah, it seemed to be 'one fight too many' for Benn - he was past his prime (even though he was only 30) at this point. I think the gruelling bouts against Eubank and Gerald McClellan had taken their toll on him. Collins was one tough (and pretty damn skilled) fighter though, and Benn at this stage was outboxed by him. It was a good thing that he retired at the end of the sixth; no doubt his pride was hurt but better that than taking a severe beating.
Yeah, cause he already did smash him, twice.. And where did you find that "fact"? Cause I just looked and found two where they had Collins second and Benn nowhere near him, and another that had Collins 6th and Benn 7th.
Read my first and second comment. But he did fight Mike McCallum and was robbed against Sumbu kalambay, not to mention beating the previously unbeaten Chris Euband, twice. And if you didn't notice, Collins was half way around the world when them two where in their "prime". Collins actually vacated the middleweight belt to move up and fight Eubank. And anyway, fuck Benn and Eubank.. who are they? Collins wanted Jones Jr, and Jones Jr wanted nothin to do with him! I question your knowledge mate.
lets talk proper sense, Benn was not overrated! He won his world Titles in USA & Italy, he blew away Barkley a very tough man. The tragic war with McClellan took alot of the fight out of Benn, that was as brutal a fight any boxer can have, not many go to a place that dark! Even Stevie Collins said Nigel was past his best when they fought. Now stop talking shit, & talk some sense! OK
The Dark Destroyers Last Scrap? Eubank vs Benn 3 in the makings? How are Collins doing these days? He said being hit by Benn was like having his teeth broken! Got any teeth left?
Roy Jones said that Gerald Mcclellan was the most frightening fighter in the devision, no one wanted to fight him. And what happened when he met ben. Iran Barkley had come of two wins against Thomas Hearrns when he got Knocked out in the first round against Benn. Not sure who's reading the Sun or who mentioned Chris Eubank at all, are you sure it's me who needs to visit the real world? Carry on eating your TV dinner in your underpants and making assumptions about people you've never met.
Neither Benn, nor Eubank would get in there with the likes of Johnson or Mccallum. Watson was a shade better than either, and he weas handed a severe beating. When Eubank faced Collins, he was coming off one of his most impressive wins against henry wharton, and was three years younger than Collins. The fact is that he wouldnt have got in there against Collins at all if ray close hadnt pulled out of a rubber match. Gaps in my boxing knowledge? Who made a sweeping statement about the johnson?
Peter James that’s pure ignorance graham was very unlucky against mccallum to say benn dodged is silly Johnson made for eubank inexperience lost Watson fight with mccallum was worn down not severe beating
U need 2 give Benn his props for amount the greatest comeback u are likely 2 ever see against someone he had nothing 2 gain from fighting. Realise the fight was not stopped because Benn landed on the outside of the canvas. That "wet sock" put the most dangerous up and comer in a wheel chair. Steve fought a retired Benn with no desire 2 fight. If u seriously think Collins holds a candle to Roy Jones, when Collins was out boxed Mccallum who got smashed by Jones and James Toney. Collins is bad.
Peter McNeeley got DQ'd against Tyson. Tyson got beat by Kevin McBride. Thats not how your coming off, mate. Your attacking Collins, basicly comin off as a Collins hater. Your not here to have a Boxing discussion, you've done nothing but abuse him.
Terminated who exactly? Eubank was over the hill and still went 12 rounds with him, Benn came back out of retirement and broke his foot. What is there 2 boast about? Instead of Collins paying a hypnotist 2 perform magic spells on him before fights, he should of learnt how 2 bob and weave. Then he wouldn't of had 2 retire with his only claim 2 fame being beating 2 once great champions. Collins is a glorified ginger punching bag, who won fights because people grew tired of hitting him.
in his prime benn wud never have ko'd the steel chined collins,as for the old comment eubank was coming off the greatest win of his career against henry warton before fighting collins,also collins was older thatn both benn and eubank at the time of these fights.
@@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk Okay so he used the hypnosis mind games on just Eubank not Benn. He stated prefight he would feel less pain and see the punches coming in slower time. Eubank knew the real reason Collins would never be out was because he had a steel chin. In the first fight collins took a count got up and then Eubank threw a punch, missed and was thrown that hard that Eubank fell through the ropes, not the actions of man concerned about what happened in his previous fights. People are in denial if they don't accept that Collins was a better fighter than both Benn and Eubank. Eubank was beaten at his own game. Collins would also have beaten Roy Jones who ran scared of Collins.
Ross Gartlan no he was getting into his head it can be seen clearly in the first fight as Eubank stood of and let Collins recover when he was there for the taking
Eubank and Benn are extremely overrated, like most British fighters. I'm sorry, but both Eubank and Benn get demolished by Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr.
I realise that Collins could take a punch as well as anyone I've seen, right up there with Ali, but his skills were no more than mediocre. Lots of heart and fair skills. Good luck to him but not a memorable fighter. Nice to see him beat Benn though. Benn was no more than a brawler. Again, lots of heart, but if that's a world class boxer I'll go he. Just goes to show you how overrated McClellan was. No defence at all. Yep, I'm supposed to be sorry for him and I am, but prior to his defeat by Benn what a piece of work he was. A fucking psycho sadist.
Hearns KO"d Duran, but Hagler went 15rds with Duran. Are you saying Hearns is better than Hagler. Styles make fights. Benn punched harder than Collins, but Steve was more durable. FACT
haha love watching Collins beat the shit out of these overrated English fighters with padded records.who the fuck did ben or eubank even beat all the top fighters where in America and they never beat any of them.
Benns whole style is based around slipping punches and landing on the inside. He is constantly bobbing and weaving, look when Collins has him on the ropes. The fact that u can't spot that tells me 2 things: 1, u have never set foot in the ring for yourself but u are extremely opinionated for someone who knows nothing. 2, u are filled with a prejudice hatred towards these fighters which blinds u from the facts. Do u know how easy it is 2 pass a medical, no cause u'v never had one.
@BestCanKeanRob2 it's you again!😂🤣👍 The grown man with a man United badge shows what a twat you are & you don't know anything about boxing because you thought Naseem fought the best!😆😆😆
Benn was technically one of the shittest boxers i have ever seen. He had guts and would fight anyone. As far as skill he was terrible. No combinations , No footwork and shit defense. He once said he wanted to fight Roy Jones, it wouldnt have lasted a round. Jones would have beaten Benn and Eubank on the same night as long as he fought Benn first. Eubank would have taken him a few more rounds. Collins, Benn, Eubank and Calzaghe would all have been destroyed by a peak RJJ.
ben should of put more waite on be for this fight he was to thin i think if i was him i would of packed it in the last fight i won he got the money too at least he would of ended is last fight on top poor old been had to lose is last fight like this thay get greedy for money thats all hes got a lot to last him so why want more
Collins a boring fighter? he came to fight every bout, hardly boring. Eubank was average only 1 win out of 4 against Irishmen Collins & Close. Very dodgy decisions against Watson, Amaral & Schommer. Chwis had shit footwork.
baan58adam I thought the topic was Collins/Benn - beaten twice by Collins as was Eubank. Get over it ffs Benn was so battered he didn't want to carry on.
The reason Collins won against Eubank and Benn is they were both shot and past it. Steve Collins is an over rated pug who should not be be mentioned in the same breath as Eubank and Benn
I like Collins, he's a tough guy, but Benn in his prime would have taken him. He deteriorated alot as his career went on. He took too many big shots and it took it's toll.
Lol haha sorsby are you serious???? The facts are facts, and one fact is certain that supposive Englishman like you will always try to diminish are irish boxing legends.....when he fought eubank twice,what happened there the same thing???? Lol English people will always hate on us real irish because there has never been any real blooded English boxers that were legends ....irish however, have had hundreds upon hundreds of pure bred world champion legends from john l Sullivan,to jack dempsey,to mclarnin,monaghan rinty,mcguigan, Collins, Flanagan,Walsh, gene Tunney, Laughran, billy conn, fitzsimmons , I could literally go on and on for a year and notice how I never mentioned any of are top 5 of all time!!!!!
Collins was a great fighter with excellent technique,he seldom gets hit and is very accurate with his punches,a true champion
thanks for posting
What are you talking about, that's the irish style,get hit four times and punch back harder with two vicious shot,get hit ten times and fire back two or three even harder shots!!!!! Up real irish blooded micky ward!!!!!! Steve collins!!!!! Barry mcguigan!!!! Tyson fury!!!! Terry flanagan!!!! Walsh!!!!!! Jason quigley!!!! Jon joe nevin !!!!!! Tiocfaidh at la!!!!
Tomas O'Se still thought eubank beat him doing a lot of wild attacks and missing then aweful neck grabs
Lol
... and a chin like a brick too.
I forgot how biased the commentators were in those days.
They talk about Benn as if he was an old man, he was just a year older than Collins.
They constantly go on about Benn's hard career, compared to Collins, but he only had a few more fights than Collins, and he didn't fight the calibre of fighters Collins fought in America, where he was robbed of 2 wins on very controversial decisions.
The only blot on his career was an early loss on points to Mike McCallum, a world champion in 3 different weight divisions, and one of the best pound for pound fighters in any division, when he was only 25. He was never KO'd by anyone, and deserved more recognition that the media gave him credit for.
Jake C Benn fought more wars than Collins which takes its toll in the end Collins waited while Benn was at end of his career Showed his true colours when young fresh JC came along
The reason Collins beat Eubank and Benn is because he never let them set their feet which is exactly how Pavlik beat Taylor. This is a common tactic used by boxers with greater cardiovascular endurance against those with more explosive power.
That does make sense Melissa. Are you his wife? lol. Steve Collins was definitely an underrated fighter. 4-0 against Benn and Eubank!
Brian, my husband made that comment 6 years ago while using my account!
No we aren’t related.
nonsense, Pavlik had a war with Taylor! Nothing to do with setting his feet. Eubank was a counter puncher with poor balance, if a fighter didn"t "come"onto him he struggled.. Collins better cardio? I would say Benn was as fit as anyone
A Hard Man was Steve Collins.
I cannot understand why people say that Eubank and Benn only lost to Steve Collins because they were too old and past it, do you know that Eubank was younger than Collins and Benn was the same age?
Eubank at the time was 28 and Benn was 30 the same age as Collins, yeah yeah they were really old, pathetic.
5eurocups2005 people will make excuses.
+5eurocups2005 its not about age, more about form.
+Music Music There's was nothing wrong with their form. Eubank was undefeated in the prime of his career. Benn was on a great run, shy of a bad split-decision loss to Malinga. Collins won because he fought harder, and was the better man.
+Sean Ó Briain benn was not the same fighter. Now to look at the records yes you would say he was fine, however, it is very evident to me after watching those bouts, benn does not look the same fighter.
One might argue steve collins was the levels above etc,but to me it looks to me like benn's form was not the same as in previous bouts.
I am not taking anything away from steve collins however, i am simply stating benn did not look the same, you could argue it tooth and nail, its just my opinion and from what im seeing watching the fights.
It's obviously not the age but the fact that Benn was a shot fighter ... take Jones and Calzaghe - same age but Calzaghe deliberate it took the fight only when he knew Jones was a spent force :(
Steve Collins had the heart of a lion. His style wasn't the easiest on the eye. But he just kept coming forward. He suffocated the likes of Benn and Eubank because he wanted it more. An out and out machine who never took a backward step.
Irish Pride did when eubank dropped him then stood off let him recover
@@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk Collins boxed the 2 ears off Eubank twice and Benn twice.
And showed what he was when joe calazage appeared fresh not diminished by ring wars Collins ran away hide shitting himself you must see highly over rated in Eubank fights the fresh air took a beating from Colin's Eubank dropped him let him recover most think Eubank won crowd cheer Colin's wild attacks when 1 out of barrage of wild swings land
Brendan W And Colin’s the coward showed his true colours when young fresh fighter appeared ( Joe Calazaghe) he shit himself feared the beating ran away such a brave act
Benn was never up against anyone as hard as that before
To be fair mclellan was never tested great boxer puncher but he never fought anyone like benn
Bookworm 4 no Benn wasn’t as up for Collins way over rated Irish brawler in eubank Benn fights eubank rematch he missed wildly thought eubank won
@@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk eubank said himself he lost second fight fair and square
@BestCanKeanRob2 eubank was 2 years younger than collins and unbeaten at the time benn was the same age so hardly past it also collins was fighting at middle weight and in America he moved up in weight to fight them as for calzaghe he was better than all three without a doubt but at the time he was only an up and coming fighter collins wanted the roy jones jr fight which he never got he retired after that
GJ1607 what he said was I wasn’t sure how to approach fight how I lost decision is a mystery judges must have being drunk in first I still think Collins performance was over rated in both eubank fights wildly swinging missed with far more than he landed first eubank clearly had Watson in his mind let Steve off after knock down
I agree, Benn was never the same again after the McClellan fight, by the time Collins got him he was a shadow of his former self. Collins even said it was a shame he didn't fight Benn a few years earlier.
Benn looks like a pretty much shot fighter here.
A shadow of what he used to be.
Great fighter- Collins
🥊
Would have loved to see him fight Roy Jones Junior, Steve had one of the best chins in boxing I've ever seen
Benn swallowed it twice
Collins just tooo strong! end of!
Alan Thomas Collins shit
@@MultiMcgurk Benn the coward even shitter! 😂🤣
He said he likes a tear up but Quit, not once but twice 🤔🤔🤔😂🤣👍
franko 117 Collins shit buddy
franko 117 no spectre of the Gman Benn nearly killed him never the same after
MultiMcgurk Is he yeah?
You've obviously never heard of Jimmy McLarnin, the greatest Boxer to ever come out of Ireland.
Katie Taylor is.
Does Collins have any tools beyond an iron chin and holding/hitting?
eric strada doesn’t seem to have think it was only way he could land hold & hit when not holding he missed wildly
Worked though didnt it he won twice
great victory for Collins..one of the best fighter ever..and nigel benn was too small for steve colllins..
Rodolfo Hernan that’s a bit of an exaggeration fought benn who was in decline Eubank let him off the hook clear memoirs of Watson Collins ran away when joe calazaghe came along
@@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk😂😂😂😂 no clue about boxing. Dry your eyes kid.
@@brucepaul81 colins ran away from calazaghe fact
Collins never really got much credit in the game.
I've read people's comments below, and I don't know why they can't just accept that Collins was the better man on the night. That's the sport.
I do think Benn wasn't training properly, but so what? He lost because on the night he wasn't good enough and Collins was.
Third fight will be interesting, and I'll bet you anything you like, that Eubank comes out to fight the winner. I'd love a Benn Eubank three.
(that sounded wrong haha)
That killer instinct was gone from Benn, it didn't help that he was fighting a man that had a chin like an anvil! Big pay day for the both of them!
Well he used the Hypnotiser for the first fight, he beat him twice you know. Roy Jones offered him a fight for 3 million after he retired, but he said he had to fight Calzaghe (who was up and comin at the time) first. Collins start training for the Calzaghe fight when he collapsed. He did get checked. And he retired on the spot.
Get it right Colin’s was shitting bricks at prospect of fighting joe he wasn’t over the hill colins would have being exposed and he knew it
Collins was a good infighter and counterpuncher. If you fought in close you can take a set puncher's power from him. Also, Collins had a steel chin so Benn could not hurt him. Collins was neutralized by a very good boxer in McCallum. But Benn was not a boxer, therefore he was easy to hit.
no man can take those punches unless there Steve
Bens last pay day , Steve Collins fought a great fight both times against Ben and Eubanks at the right time but when it came down to defending he’s title against a fighter in he’s prime he bottled it as he had already made he’s money
the irish man is made of iron xxx
SistorCarrera got rusty when a fresh challenger came along a welsh man Collins ran and hide
Chris I don't recall Collins running from any man but I don't want to argue..its just opions and the are often wrong
SistorCarrera it’s a well known fact Collins bottled fighting JC a good judge just wasn’t in the same league good fighting boxers at end of career or nobody’s joe put fear in Collins he bottled it plain and simple
Collins is the hardest man outside of Marvin Haglar but fair play to you can we agree to disagree?
SistorCarrera if he was such a hard man why did he run away from calazaghe after defending against nobodys
Collins was a good fighter but Benn was never the same after the McClellan fight. Similar age but just look at the wars Benn had been through
How long have you being dating colins the coward had to have his nappy changed when he was told to fight calazaghe he would have being shown for what he was good fighting nobodies and shoot fighters
Brendan W hardly battered then Collins the coward shit himself JC ready to school the mano
Brendan W are you a bit slow email on mobile
Collins was a middleweight world champion when he moved up to fight Eubank. Collins took the fight at short notice and still beat Eubank. In the second fight Collins looks physically stronger because he had a full camp behind him and, imo, beat Eubank soundly.
Collins went to fight in America and fought Mike McCallum after only 16 fights, I can't imagine Eubanks ever doing something like that.
Collins could box and brawl, as Benn found out. Neutralise Benns power and you've the battle won.
Great sportsmanship by Ben
Jimmy mclarnin is Irelands greatest fighter by a mile.
also Mike McCallum rates Collins as having the best chin of anyone he ever fought, he said against Toney he would hit him with the straight right & James would move, he couldn"t budge Stevie Collins.
But eubank dropped him
@@ChrisThornburn-ke5xknonsensical, Collins also dropped Eubank, Collins was a "non puncher", but Eubank had granite chin! These things happen in Boxing! I will take McCallum"s anecdote anytime! He was a fantastic boxer...
dan32113 if you have boxed you can tell difference a flash knockdown or boxer hurt Collins was on very shaky legs it’s the punch that isn’t seen that does most damage Eubank stood off if he would have gone after Collins he would have got stoppage
And who does mccallum rate as best boxer he fought clue not a yank
@@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk Toney & Jones jnr (who used steroids) both Yanks
Collins started his pro career in the US, he didn't 'go over' to fight McCallum he had already been based there for four years.
Benn was never good at defense. And Collins was a really good fighter at this stage of his career.
Here he beat Benn to the punch repeatedly. Plus Benn has poor footwork.
Collins great boxer but Ben had a lot of wars and it catches up with you in the end.
where u do :)
Steve collins had head problems because he got punched in it too much. He fought Benn and Eubank when they were on the way out. A slow, easy to hit, fighter with mediocre punching power, like Collins, would be tailor made for Roy Jones. He would get demolished.
Collins will always be a hero in the sport of boxing for exposing Benn and Eubank. He gave them a taste of the punishment they would have received at the hands of RJJ or James Toney.
disgrapefruit2bitter daft post alert
Everyone knows Nigel Benn was never the same after that Gerald McClellan, War. Steve Collins was a tough fighter but he came at the right time when Benn and Eubank we're not in their Prime.
Excuses
The decision Toney got over johnson was controversial, and he got off the floor to do it. Benn or Eubank would not have touched Johnson with a ten foot pole, but were content to have have flashy domestic fights against eachother, or bum frings contenders, while defending the spurious WBO title. Barkley and dewitt were made to order for benn.
referee clearly out to disrupt collins from the moment he started to batter benn, is so obvious, no warning about the silly head butt just took a point off and when in the clinch shoved collins way back every time to give benn a breather
Hey Tiny Dicky,
First of all, the fighter you are trying to be up on is called Gerald not Gerard.
Secondly, the fight was pretty even apart from the first and eighth round. Benn was a great, value for money fighter and above all that, he never lost to an American.
Only decent fighter was Lewis and collins the rest hyped sissies
According to Benn they're going to do it again in 2017...can't wait!
Collins just looks a lot bigger to me than Ben, looks like 2 different weight classes, odd.
Collins colapsed while training to fight Calzaghe and a doctor told him he could die if he continued to take blows to the head.
Benn in his prime is the ko winner.
I walked up up to Steve in the beer garden of Dicey Reilly's off my head on E With every body in a semi-circle around him just staring at him and his 3 mates, I stuck out my hand and said "Steve Collins champion of the world congratulations" He looked as if he thought I'd come over to start something(it's Dublin). He shook my hand and said "Cheers bud appreciate it"
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Why bodies Benn keep shaking his head like a spacca?
Was always guna end that way. Ben gave in the first fight so his heart wasn't in it anymore
Is it just me or does Benn just look utterly f*cked here? It's like he can't move around the ring any more. His body looks like it won't respond properly and his head doesn't seem to be in the game.
+Retro Brothers We were there and it appeared he was there just for a pay day !!!!!!!! I am a Benn fan but was so disappointed ....Great night of boxing though ....
+Julie Jones Yeah, it seemed to be 'one fight too many' for Benn - he was past his prime (even though he was only 30) at this point. I think the gruelling bouts against Eubank and Gerald McClellan had taken their toll on him.
Collins was one tough (and pretty damn skilled) fighter though, and Benn at this stage was outboxed by him. It was a good thing that he retired at the end of the sixth; no doubt his pride was hurt but better that than taking a severe beating.
Neither Benn or Eubanks had the power required to finish Collins.
The Irishman was tough as fuck.
Jack Carter eubank clearly could have but with Watson fight in back of mind let Collins of the hook
Yeah, cause he already did smash him, twice.. And where did you find that "fact"? Cause I just looked and found two where they had Collins second and Benn nowhere near him, and another that had Collins 6th and Benn 7th.
Shame he ducked out of a fight with Calzaghe, Joe would have destroyed him imo.
This isnt an argument.. this is some bitter old man cryin about Steve Collins beatin two of Britains top Super-middlewights. Thats one to two.
Collins beat Roy Jones in his prime, as a super middle weight?! I just can't see that at all! Collins going the distance yes, but win, no way.
+ATM Rise collins is dreaming if he think he can beat a prime jr
No way the hyped Irishman beats any SM in their prime
Loved nigel benn Great fighter toe toe stood his ground. Better than chris eubank in some ways
Read my first and second comment. But he did fight Mike McCallum and was robbed against Sumbu kalambay, not to mention beating the previously unbeaten Chris Euband, twice. And if you didn't notice, Collins was half way around the world when them two where in their "prime". Collins actually vacated the middleweight belt to move up and fight Eubank. And anyway, fuck Benn and Eubank.. who are they? Collins wanted Jones Jr, and Jones Jr wanted nothin to do with him! I question your knowledge mate.
nfpmg give your head a shake kalambay was one under rated fighter
lets talk proper sense, Benn was not overrated! He won his world Titles in USA & Italy, he blew away Barkley a very tough man. The tragic war with McClellan took alot of the fight out of Benn, that was as brutal a fight any boxer can have, not many go to a place that dark! Even Stevie Collins said Nigel was past his best when they fought. Now stop talking shit, & talk some sense! OK
All three greats
But there are always supporters of a certain fighter fans per say
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The Dark Destroyers Last Scrap? Eubank vs Benn 3 in the makings? How are Collins doing these days? He said being hit by Benn was like having his teeth broken! Got any teeth left?
steve collins was tough for sure shame he never foughtJoe Calzaghe might have been Calzaghe only loss
+lewi no way, joe would never lose
+lewi collin is slick compare to eunbank and benn, but calzaghe is the supreme boxing.
+lewi okay fair enough
Collins too slow for JC
+baan58adam with you there
Roy Jones said that Gerald Mcclellan was the most frightening fighter in the devision, no one wanted to fight him. And what happened when he met ben. Iran Barkley had come of two wins against Thomas Hearrns when he got Knocked out in the first round against Benn. Not sure who's reading the Sun or who mentioned Chris Eubank at all, are you sure it's me who needs to visit the real world? Carry on eating your TV dinner in your underpants and making assumptions about people you've never met.
Neither Benn, nor Eubank would get in there with the likes of Johnson or Mccallum. Watson was a shade better than either, and he weas handed a severe beating. When Eubank faced Collins, he was coming off one of his most impressive wins against henry wharton, and was three years younger than Collins. The fact is that he wouldnt have got in there against Collins at all if ray close hadnt pulled out of a rubber match. Gaps in my boxing knowledge? Who made a sweeping statement about the johnson?
Peter James that’s pure ignorance graham was very unlucky against mccallum to say benn dodged is silly Johnson made for eubank inexperience lost Watson fight with mccallum was worn down not severe beating
U need 2 give Benn his props for amount the greatest comeback u are likely 2 ever see against someone he had nothing 2 gain from fighting. Realise the fight was not stopped because Benn landed on the outside of the canvas. That "wet sock" put the most dangerous up and comer in a wheel chair. Steve fought a retired Benn with no desire 2 fight. If u seriously think Collins holds a candle to Roy Jones, when Collins was out boxed Mccallum who got smashed by Jones and James Toney. Collins is bad.
Barkley had only fought Hearns once when he fought Benn.
Peter McNeeley got DQ'd against Tyson. Tyson got beat by Kevin McBride. Thats not how your coming off, mate. Your attacking Collins, basicly comin off as a Collins hater. Your not here to have a Boxing discussion, you've done nothing but abuse him.
benn is pretty and Collins is made from steel
Collins wud have murdered Marvin Haglar
It's not an opinion and he's not my hero. Never particularly cared for the man actually. Just dealing in facts, not conjecture.
Terminated who exactly? Eubank was over the hill and still went 12 rounds with him, Benn came back out of retirement and broke his foot. What is there 2 boast about? Instead of Collins paying a hypnotist 2 perform magic spells on him before fights, he should of learnt how 2 bob and weave. Then he wouldn't of had 2 retire with his only claim 2 fame being beating 2 once great champions. Collins is a glorified ginger punching bag, who won fights because people grew tired of hitting him.
in his prime benn wud never have ko'd the steel chined collins,as for the old comment eubank was coming off the greatest win of his career against henry warton before fighting collins,also collins was older thatn both benn and eubank at the time of these fights.
Collins disgusting mind games made me lose Respect for him playing on the fact both nearly killed an opponent
@@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk Can you explain what mind games Collins played on both Benn and Eubank that played on the fact both nearly killed an opponent?
Ross Gartlan you just have to listen to him preflight like saying to Eubank he had being hypnotised so he could carry on when normally he would be out
@@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk Okay so he used the hypnosis mind games on just Eubank not Benn. He stated prefight he would feel less pain and see the punches coming in slower time. Eubank knew the real reason Collins would never be out was because he had a steel chin. In the first fight collins took a count got up and then Eubank threw a punch, missed and was thrown that hard that Eubank fell through the ropes, not the actions of man concerned about what happened in his previous fights. People are in denial if they don't accept that Collins was a better fighter than both Benn and Eubank. Eubank was beaten at his own game. Collins would also have beaten Roy Jones who ran scared of Collins.
Ross Gartlan no he was getting into his head it can be seen clearly in the first fight as Eubank stood of and let Collins recover when he was there for the taking
Collins gassed Benn out dry! 😴
Eubank and Benn are extremely overrated, like most British fighters. I'm sorry, but both Eubank and Benn get demolished by Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr.
Clear you don't have a clue like benn v Barkley and the gman its USA fighters that get over rated like nunn etc
I realise that Collins could take a punch as well as anyone I've seen, right up there with Ali, but his skills were no more than mediocre. Lots of heart and fair skills. Good luck to him but not a memorable fighter. Nice to see him beat Benn though. Benn was no more than a brawler. Again, lots of heart, but if that's a world class boxer I'll go he. Just goes to show you how overrated McClellan was. No defence at all. Yep, I'm supposed to be sorry for him and I am, but prior to his defeat by Benn what a piece of work he was. A fucking psycho sadist.
Could Calzaghe have took them? Because they put Barcaly down in his peak
Calzaghe was clearly better and a workhorse
Hearns KO"d Duran, but Hagler went 15rds with Duran. Are you saying Hearns is better than Hagler. Styles make fights. Benn punched harder than Collins, but Steve was more durable. FACT
haha love watching Collins beat the shit out of these overrated English fighters with padded records.who the fuck did ben or eubank even beat all the top fighters where in America and they never beat any of them.
Benn beat Iran Barkley and Gerald McClellan - two greats - better than any fighters on Collins' record
+baan58adam Benn is on Collins record, lol
+baan58adam you are saying that Benn beat men better than himself.....ok then...
+DanIrish409 And Jones is on Calzaghe's record - it proves nothing
baan58adam big difference there
Benns whole style is based around slipping punches and landing on the inside. He is constantly bobbing and weaving, look when Collins has him on the ropes. The fact that u can't spot that tells me 2 things: 1, u have never set foot in the ring for yourself but u are extremely opinionated for someone who knows nothing. 2, u are filled with a prejudice hatred towards these fighters which blinds u from the facts. Do u know how easy it is 2 pass a medical, no cause u'v never had one.
Collies is not aboxer
Nigel Benn = Biggest quitter
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@BestCanKeanRob2 at least Duran fought the best!
Benn quit twice like a pussy against Steve Collins
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Propa tearup.
i love nigel und steve so im saying nothing
Patrizio Sumbu Kalambay
That's it, u hav nothing 2 say so just spam fake laughter. U'v given up on the boxing then, is that a losing battle?
Benn was technically one of the shittest boxers i have ever seen. He had guts and would fight anyone. As far as skill he was terrible. No combinations , No footwork and shit defense. He once said he wanted to fight Roy Jones, it wouldnt have lasted a round. Jones would have beaten Benn and Eubank on the same night as long as he fought Benn first. Eubank would have taken him a few more rounds. Collins, Benn, Eubank and Calzaghe would all have been destroyed by a peak RJJ.
Mark Stephens don’t know benn very well RJJ is type of fight Benn shone in like when he had no chance with Barkley and the gman
Benn TKO The G Man
I hope G man can recover from his injury ASAP same he said for Michael Watson.
ben should of put more waite on be for this fight he was to thin i think if i was him i would of packed it in the last fight i won he got the money too at least he would of ended is last fight on top poor old been had to lose is last fight like this thay get greedy for money thats all hes got a lot to last him so why want more
+Brian Greaves speak english
its spelled "weight " and "they"
Don't fuck with Steve Collins
James Toney atSM would of beaten them both.
Parrinkinpau carmona bollocks what about Toney getting smashed by unknown forget his name tapihra something like ithat
Or are you just a Collins hater?
ben got a real good hideing just look at is face he was to old fat and slow he should of gave up boxing wen he was good
School not your strong point I see.
Collins a boring fighter? he came to fight every bout, hardly boring. Eubank was average only 1 win out of 4 against Irishmen Collins & Close. Very dodgy decisions against Watson, Amaral & Schommer. Chwis had shit footwork.
dan32113 eubank was a counter puncher had great foot work on defense not attacking
The black supreme propaganda over calzagi slapped benn and Eubanks as well , so black guys still think your superior ?
What an ugly and dirty fight:how such a warrior like Nigel Benn could give up like this?Or maybe he was not anymore the real dark destroyer?
He, and Benn, underestimated Collins - who was as tough as teak.
brendan w Collins was tough for real,but the prime Benn would have presented to us a memorable war.
Frédéric Avalli Probably so - but both he and Eubank could have fought Collins a lot earlier than they did. The better man won on all four occasions.
+brendan w No way - who else did Collins beat? Anyone good?
baan58adam I thought the topic was Collins/Benn - beaten twice by Collins as was Eubank.
Get over it ffs Benn was so battered he didn't want to carry on.
you'll never beat the irish........
The reason Collins won against Eubank and Benn is they were both shot and past it. Steve Collins is an over rated pug who should not be be mentioned in the same breath as Eubank and Benn
Rubbish
He beat both of them around the ring twice and was the same age so your full of shit mate sorry!
***** Tough man over the web Mr. Far - I can tell your'e all mouth and got nothing.
Is that why he beat them both twice.
You are absolutely correct.
I like Collins, he's a tough guy, but Benn in his prime would have taken him. He deteriorated alot as his career went on. He took too many big shots and it took it's toll.
Nigel benn had a rubbish style... really don't like to see his fights, it was the last time
Benn would have won in his prime
+Jhonny Bhoy prime doesn't necessarily mean age? Benn had been in too many wars and was finished here.
Lol haha sorsby are you serious???? The facts are facts, and one fact is certain that supposive Englishman like you will always try to diminish are irish boxing legends.....when he fought eubank twice,what happened there the same thing???? Lol English people will always hate on us real irish because there has never been any real blooded English boxers that were legends ....irish however, have had hundreds upon hundreds of pure bred world champion legends from john l Sullivan,to jack dempsey,to mclarnin,monaghan rinty,mcguigan, Collins, Flanagan,Walsh, gene Tunney, Laughran, billy conn, fitzsimmons , I could literally go on and on for a year and notice how I never mentioned any of are top 5 of all time!!!!!