Very good talk and look at the benefit of using Hahnemuhle's inkjet paper spreay varnish. It sure does in good job in preserviing the image that it's sprayed on than the ones without the protective spray. Great video.
The thing is, if you sell a print, the customer (/gallery) is likely to hang it on a wall, fully "exposed" to the elements. Regarding borders, I generally prefer "natural" papers (not only no OBAs, but off-white out-of-the-box) and most will be displayed framed and matted, so the borders won't show (and would be protected anyway). I'm mainly concerned about how the actual composition might be affected over time (much longer than a year, as quality pigment-based inks supposedly last 200-400 years, although good luck hitting them up for a warranty claim!).
I wonder why you see a shift of the paper color to yellow? I can’t see this with Hahnemühle papers I use within a year. What variant and is it OBA free? Anyhow, the spray will not really improve yellowing of the paper base. It protects the dye or pigment ink layer from UV light and potential oxidation reactions.
I use Photo Rag Baryta for the test. It has no OBAs. I did note that after 1 year the sparyed paper had less yellowing compared to one that was not sprayed. Check out time stamp 4.48. However, these print were let hanging unprotected in a room with a window under ambient light. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and thank you for watching!
Thank you Michael for bringing this one to us. Printing is one sure fire way of improving in photography. The spray you are using is German made.They also make great paper as well. I have 2 printers in my studio.The paper i use is the Canon Pro Platinum for prints up to A2 size and for the Epsom P9070 large format printer i use 100ft rolls of HP Premium Satin paper. I like to print big panos as these are on display in our gallery. Take care
Pro tip.! Put your prints in a box if they are not being displayed, If you want to frame and display them use a pigment inks printer and they will last a long time without treatment. I have prints hanging on the wall I made over fifteen years ago and they are still fine and have the files to print another if I need to. Having said that it looks like a product worth paying for so I may well try some, I'm sure it would go a long way even with A3 prints.
Great video, a few thoughts here… printing images at home and displaying them was the reason I invested in my Canon. As a recently retired art picture framer, we only ever used UV glass. As you’re paying oodles of $ for ink and papers, spend a little more and frame to display your fave images together with a spray coat rather than hide them. Just sayin✌️
Markie, you’re right! A good frame with some quality non reflective glass is very important. Indeed, I need more walls in my home, but I would settle for an art gallery that’s begging for my work 😀😉 Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Jubilanti left a comment, but I accidentally hit the hide button. I tried, but I have no idea how to get it back. See below: Thank you very much, so clearly explained! One question, although you've answered I suppose, written on the left. But to be absolutely sure : at the outcome of your experimentation what was the result on the COLOURS on the prints in your video. (I'm interested because often I don't show borders.) Thanks again. My answer: I could not see detect a noticeable loss in color when comparing the old print to the new one. Thank you!
By the way how to you get the same width on the printed papers with canons profesionall print&layout I always get a little bigger width than the other.
@@Keyboardwarrior42 Great question! Check the paper size and use the default setting. In Lightroom, the borders will not be changeable beyond the minimum when using the standard default paper sizes. The default is built to cover the printer's ability to transfer the paper. I’ve been considering making a video about this. But honestly, getting it right does require a bit of tweaking. Send me an email if you like, and I can walk you through how to get a perfect border with a Canon printer.
Well, after printing, I placed them on my board for a year where they were exposed to sunlight and the room’s ambient light. Probably not an environment that one would normally keep a print. Of course, it’s important to remember that only the white edge shows yellowing. The ink itself had no noticeable signs of color shift. Hope this helps.
Hello and thank you for this test Did you spray 2 layers as recommended by Hahnemühle ? I spray the 1st layer 24h after printing and the 2nd layer 24h after the 1st. Isn't the paper base colour getting already very slightly yellow just after spraying ? I guess what's bad for prints is not only direct sunlight but also ozone, so never hanging a print near a laser printer or xerox copier.
Hello, Jean-Claude! After allowing the print to dry for 24 hours, I spray the first layer in one direction, rotate the print 90 degrees and then spray a second layer. I wait about 20 minutes between the two layers. I found that the paper yellowing still occurs over time, but placing the print in an acid-free storage box, protective plastic sleeve, or even framing, does significantly reduce the effect of the elements.
Thank you, Rick! The cup contained some of Starbucks' finest dark roast ... Christmas blend. I always try to "corner the market" after Christmas, so I'll have it throughout the year. 😃
i have tried the ILFORD FineArt Protect but i have disappointed from that because it brings my super high gloss canon platinum paper close to semigloss and reduce the power of colors. I prefer my prints in frame without the glass. Have you find out the same thing also with the Hahnemuhle spray? Maybe i gona try a clear coat for cars
Honestly, I can't really tell any difference between the sprayed and unsprayed photos. The same is true for the Moab spray. For my best prints, I use non-reflective glass that seems to really reduce, if not eliminate, any glare from room lighting.
No, I mostly spray prints that I intend to frame or place in my portfolio albums. I like the spray and intend to continue using it. In fact, I sprayed two different papers about a year ago as a comparison. I'll post those results in a video around mid-March. Thanks for watching!
@@MDanceInc My mistake! So to answer your question, no I don’t spray all paper types, I only spray fine art papers, even textured and matte fine art papers. Hope this helps!
It’s a small portfolio binder I use to hold various sample paper so that I can reference it for future print projects. It helps me understand how a typical print will look on a certain type of paper from matte to glossy with different textures.
5:03 - When you are holding up 3 prints for comparison, camera should be on the prints, not on the speaker. 7+ min video with focus mainly on speaker, not on subject. This could have been done in 2 mins with zero speaker focus and camera directly over the prints so we could see what you are seeing. I would redo this video. 1. No mention of any other way of applying Hahnemuhle Varnish, besides the spray. I inherited 3 cans of this stuff and don't know how to apply it or use it. 2. Camera angle and lighting is so poor I cannot see the difference between glossy and matte finish. 3. Camera is 99% of the time on the speaker not on the subject. No close ups. 4. Disjointed information. Does it, or does it not protect from UV? It seems not. Useless.
Thank you for the feedback! It is effective on preserving the prints. I will consider a remake, thanks! The test shows a decrease in yellowing after one year.
Very good talk and look at the benefit of using Hahnemuhle's inkjet paper spreay varnish. It sure does in good job in preserviing the image that it's sprayed on than the ones without the protective spray. Great video.
Thank you, Agnetha! Excellent paper!
The thing is, if you sell a print, the customer (/gallery) is likely to hang it on a wall, fully "exposed" to the elements. Regarding borders, I generally prefer "natural" papers (not only no OBAs, but off-white out-of-the-box) and most will be displayed framed and matted, so the borders won't show (and would be protected anyway). I'm mainly concerned about how the actual composition might be affected over time (much longer than a year, as quality pigment-based inks supposedly last 200-400 years, although good luck hitting them up for a warranty claim!).
That's very true! I'm planning another video soon-a follow-up to this one. Thanks for watching!
I wonder why you see a shift of the paper color to yellow? I can’t see this with Hahnemühle papers I use within a year. What variant and is it OBA free?
Anyhow, the spray will not really improve yellowing of the paper base. It protects the dye or pigment ink layer from UV light and potential oxidation reactions.
I use Photo Rag Baryta for the test. It has no OBAs. I did note that after 1 year the sparyed paper had less yellowing compared to one that was not sprayed. Check out time stamp 4.48. However, these print were let hanging unprotected in a room with a window under ambient light. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and thank you for watching!
Thank you Michael for bringing this one to us.
Printing is one sure fire way of improving in photography.
The spray you are using is German made.They also make great paper as well.
I have 2 printers in my studio.The paper i use is the Canon Pro Platinum for prints
up to A2 size and for the Epsom P9070 large format printer i use 100ft rolls of HP
Premium Satin paper.
I like to print big panos as these are on display in our gallery.
Take care
Thank you for the comments! Hope you’re doing well!
I need to print more of my images, but I’m running out of walls! Interesting video, mate. 👍
Thank you, Peter!
Pro tip.! Put your prints in a box if they are not being displayed, If you want to frame and display them use a pigment inks printer and they will last a long time without treatment. I have prints hanging on the wall I made over fifteen years ago and they are still fine and have the files to print another if I need to. Having said that it looks like a product worth paying for so I may well try some, I'm sure it would go a long way even with A3 prints.
CJ, great tips! Archival boxes are an excellent way to store prints. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
Great video, a few thoughts here… printing images at home and displaying them was the reason I invested in my Canon. As a recently retired art picture framer, we only ever used UV glass. As you’re paying oodles of $ for ink and papers, spend a little more and frame to display your fave images together with a spray coat rather than hide them. Just sayin✌️
Markie, you’re right! A good frame with some quality non reflective glass is very important. Indeed, I need more walls in my home, but I would settle for an art gallery that’s begging for my work 😀😉 Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Jubilanti left a comment, but I accidentally hit the hide button. I tried, but I have no idea how to get it back. See below:
Thank you very much, so clearly explained! One question, although you've answered I suppose, written on the left. But to be absolutely sure : at the outcome of your experimentation what was the result on the COLOURS on the prints in your video. (I'm interested because often I don't show borders.) Thanks again.
My answer: I could not see detect a noticeable loss in color when comparing the old print to the new one. Thank you!
By the way how to you get the same width on the printed papers with canons profesionall print&layout I always get a little bigger width than the other.
@@Keyboardwarrior42 Great question! Check the paper size and use the default setting. In Lightroom, the borders will not be changeable beyond the minimum when using the standard default paper sizes. The default is built to cover the printer's ability to transfer the paper. I’ve been considering making a video about this. But honestly, getting it right does require a bit of tweaking. Send me an email if you like, and I can walk you through how to get a perfect border with a Canon printer.
Great video, I really like it and it's very informative. I am just starting printing by myself, so there are so many questions comming up 😉 lg Klaus
I’m glad you enjoyed the video! It’s always a pleasure to help out a fellow photographer.
What is causing the yellowing or discoloration in your prints?
Well, after printing, I placed them on my board for a year where they were exposed to sunlight and the room’s ambient light. Probably not an environment that one would normally keep a print. Of course, it’s important to remember that only the white edge shows yellowing. The ink itself had no noticeable signs of color shift. Hope this helps.
Hello and thank you for this test
Did you spray 2 layers as recommended by Hahnemühle ?
I spray the 1st layer 24h after printing and the 2nd layer 24h after the 1st.
Isn't the paper base colour getting already very slightly yellow just after spraying ?
I guess what's bad for prints is not only direct sunlight but also ozone, so never hanging a print near a laser printer or xerox copier.
Hello, Jean-Claude! After allowing the print to dry for 24 hours, I spray the first layer in one direction, rotate the print 90 degrees and then spray a second layer. I wait about 20 minutes between the two layers. I found that the paper yellowing still occurs over time, but placing the print in an acid-free storage box, protective plastic sleeve, or even framing, does significantly reduce the effect of the elements.
Good topic and great tips, what was in the cup?
Thank you, Rick! The cup contained some of Starbucks' finest dark roast ... Christmas blend. I always try to "corner the market" after Christmas, so I'll have it throughout the year. 😃
i have tried the ILFORD FineArt Protect but i have disappointed from that because it brings my super high gloss canon platinum paper close to semigloss and reduce the power of colors. I prefer my prints in frame without the glass. Have you find out the same thing also with the Hahnemuhle spray? Maybe i gona try a clear coat for cars
Honestly, I can't really tell any difference between the sprayed and unsprayed photos. The same is true for the Moab spray. For my best prints, I use non-reflective glass that seems to really reduce, if not eliminate, any glare from room lighting.
do you spray all paper types....????
No, I mostly spray prints that I intend to frame or place in my portfolio albums. I like the spray and intend to continue using it. In fact, I sprayed two different papers about a year ago as a comparison. I'll post those results in a video around mid-March. Thanks for watching!
I was curious about paper "Types" not their intended purpose...I will watch for the video in March
@@ScottymanPhoto
@@MDanceInc My mistake! So to answer your question, no I don’t spray all paper types, I only spray fine art papers, even textured and matte fine art papers. Hope this helps!
What is binder book that you showed?
It’s a small portfolio binder I use to hold various sample paper so that I can reference it for future print projects. It helps me understand how a typical print will look on a certain type of paper from matte to glossy with different textures.
5:03 - When you are holding up 3 prints for comparison, camera should be on the prints, not on the speaker. 7+ min video with focus mainly on speaker, not on subject. This could have been done in 2 mins with zero speaker focus and camera directly over the prints so we could see what you are seeing. I would redo this video.
1. No mention of any other way of applying Hahnemuhle Varnish, besides the spray. I inherited 3 cans of this stuff and don't know how to apply it or use it.
2. Camera angle and lighting is so poor I cannot see the difference between glossy and matte finish.
3. Camera is 99% of the time on the speaker not on the subject. No close ups.
4. Disjointed information. Does it, or does it not protect from UV? It seems not. Useless.
Thank you for the feedback! It is effective on preserving the prints. I will consider a remake, thanks! The test shows a decrease in yellowing after one year.