When I first started out working on cars with friends my job was to paint the engines and it was so enjoyable to do. I could paint engines all day long.
@@paulsilva3346 you'd like standby generators then. Brand new ones have tons of paint, and they usually assemble the whole thing, tape a few things off and spray the crap out of it. Sure they cover the turbo , but not the manifolds haha. And then it looks like they spray on like 2-3 wicked thick coats. Not to mention that an engine or generator is usually already painted before it's mated together. I've had plenty of bolts around the engine where you gotta set the box end of the wrench or socket on, and smack it on with a hammer cause it doesn't fit😝 That paint burns nice on the manifolds too 😝
Glad to see some one else install their camshaft first ! I always try and stress that to customers . No matter how much you try and install the bearings correctly there is always those that are a problem and it's a lot easier to fix without the crankshaft and rods installed . Recently I installed a set in a 15 liter Volvo industrial engine . Didn't have a cam to test it with , told the customer to be sure and check them . He didn't ! They were actually semi finished and hade to be line bored to fit the cam . The engine had to be completely disassembled to fix it .
Hey Hagerty, will Davin and Ben be doing a Redline Rebuild Explained for the straight eight Buick. I think I speak for many when I say that those are really enjoyable.
Davin, I just wanted to suggest to you a better way of installing cam bearings one at a time and checking for being able to turn the cam by hand, that way you know which bearing might be tight rather than checking with all the bearings installed. I learned this from Nick Panaritis on Nick's Garage on TH-cam.
Also, why not learn to use a CAM SCRAPING Tool.? Refer to SQUATCH 253, and their IN DEPTH International Harvester Super M wheeled tractor engine Rebuild.?.! Excellently rebuilt, in my opinion.!
I think it's cool that you use Glyptal. It used to be pretty common from what I understand but it seems that in recent years nobody takes the extra time to do it. A friend of mine sent me some pictures of a big block that he pulled out of his rock crawler to rebuild and I noticed that there was glyptal in the lifter valley. I mentioned it and he said that he wanted to do take care of all the little details. Which I thought was awesome as while I had known about the existence of glyptal i'd never seen it on an engine in person prior.
Because modern fuel contains ethanol, which attacks glyptal. Any in the oil and you've filled the oil pickup with paint sludge. Grind the inside of the block smooth or dont mess with it. Paint goes on the outside!
@@Danglebarry62 a quick google search didn't come up with anything. If you have a link to some testing i'd like to check it out. I run non-ethanol fuel in my 57 but not in my 79 (even though I probably should run non-ethanol in it too). And when the 79 gets a rebuild I don't want to put glyptal in it if it's going to end up killing my engine. My friend didn't have any issues with his big block.
You can 3D print softer more compliant materials to make silicone plugs if you have the right hot end setup on the printer. May be worth a look for those plugs.
Also there's Another trick of epoxying steel screen across the big openings where the lifters go in in the the lifter Valley that's for keeping out all types of little pieces of metal that may be in the top-end from getting down to the camshaft but if you want to keep those open so you can go ahead and access the cam bearings easier than yes you wouldn't put that in like that.
First rate detailed job on the painting! I would have loved to have seen how you checked the crank bearing clearances. You did check the crank bearing clearances, right?
I don't know what software you're designing those plugs in, but you should be able to change your export settings to get objects more curved rather than many noticeable flats. Would seal better in round holes.
Are those freeze plugs in the right way around? I've never seen them put in that way, always concave out. Is that right? Or do I just need to get out more?
91% or better isopropyl alcohol will take off glyptal without issue it cuts thru it like butter if you don't want to hunt for 91% alcohol use Heet fuel drier it will do just as good and cut thru the glyptal yes it's almost pure Alcohol .when it comes to freeze plugs I like to think of it like this do you want to replace that freeze plug in the back of the engine during winter because you used a steel one and it rusted out or just take the safe route and put in all brass . I have changed a lot of freeze plugs in my time and learned the hard way to only use brass ones .
What a work of art, too bad the internals get covered up. You reminded me of a kind of a parable my father told me as a kid, about the roofer who did a rough job because nobody would ever see it close up. The moral of the story was to do everything as if it's your own, no one needs to see it for you to know that you've done the job as it should be done. Anyway, paint on gaskets looks so backyard shed.
I love this channel, but I gotta say the body filler on the oil pan hurt 😬. The crease mark by the oil drain I can understand, but the few dings could have been sorted with a few whacks from a hammer and dollie.
Any difference between the blue and yellow tape? Why was the bottom masked off at your shop and the top masked off at the paint shop? Great videos, you do a great job explaining the process.
Hello, i am french and i love all your video and in particular your timelaspt rebuilt WHO are amazing. So i recently bought a 1965 cadillac with 429 engine who i am now rebuilding but i found not the torque (Nm) for the crankshaft, the cylinder heads and the connecting rods. Your engine in this video is similary to my engine. Can You help me for this ? Thank You !!
Great assembly job. I'm wondering if the thick red lube on the crank and cam will mix with the engine oil without causing damage to the engine? Probably okay or Devin wouldn't use it.
😂🤭🤫 I was gonna give you ribbing for not using the shop truck.... then I seen the snow so guessing it's like 2°c or less than.... dont mind me I'll just sit in the corner🤣😂
+++ 8:20 AND UP UNTIL 8:27, I am comfy-cozy thinking ALRIGHT a nice soliloquy from a Wise Man while coating GLYPTOL... Awww, NO, the TIME-Lapse for GLYPTOL, 8:28 .!.!.?.? I have a Triumph TR 4 Engine to BUILD, and I bought a QT. of GLYPTOL for it and future Builds..! Also I paint gaskets also, as I have found they stay pliable for longer. Not EXPOSED to the Elements.... I am MOST Disappointed with Davin and the crew... Sigh...
When you installed the main bearings I saw that you installed one at a time including torquing the main bearings one bearing at a time... Instead of putting in the bearings and then bolting them in some sort of pattern (middle to outside?) I guess the installation of those main bearings don't require that kind of thing?
That's only necessary when the bolts you're torquing are all holding one single assembly, like a head for instance. The case of the main bearing caps, they're 5 individual pieces so torquing each one doesn't affect any other one at all so the order in which you torque them doesn't really matter.
This engine is very similar, its a 365. In 1959 it was turned into a 390 and then redesigned in 63 or 64 as the 429. In the redesign Cadillac made it smaller and more efficient, but enlarged it 429 cubic inches.
@Hagerty @Davin - What is the engine build lubricant that is used? I am curious because it paints on so nice... Looking for a different lube for my rebuilds and I would like to try what you use. Thanks for any info. :-)
A rebuilt motor without painted gaskets is perfect imo. Hmmm, apparently, I've watch too many kindigit creations having me believe a $1 roll of aluminum foil would of prevented your engine stand from over spray and kept it all red. Most painters don't care about over spray. Cheers!
exactly what assembly lube do you use?? my son and i have been talking about glyptol.. for a car that will sit all winter in the far north not running im thinking yes he thinks its a waste??? thoughts
Out of curiosity, how big's the difference of heat expansion between Brass & Steel freeze plugs? Other than aesthetics, is there any other reason to use the Brass?
I used to work in an machine shop for a summer job growing up, i asked the owner the same thing. He told me that he used brass for marine build engines (fresh water in the Great Lakes) he didn’t actually go into details but I assumed for corrosion purposes? And B, they look cool
Finally, a builder who puts the camshaft in FIRST, as intended.
I think Derek from vice grip garage also does it like this
I like to put the heads on first 😉
@@FixingWithFriends oh I’m sorry. I stand corrected lol
When I first started out working on cars with friends my job was to paint the engines and it was so enjoyable to do. I could paint engines all day long.
Learn a lot from these episodes. Keep em coming
💯 agree on paint pre assembly. I hate seeing paint on gaskets or over spray.
I myself, on the other hand, feel PAINTED Gaskets hold up better, and DO NOT dry out when sealed externally by Paint...?
Just watch if you use a Sharpie to mark, you wipe it off with something before paint or it'll bleed right thru.
@@paulsilva3346 you'd like standby generators then.
Brand new ones have tons of paint, and they usually assemble the whole thing, tape a few things off and spray the crap out of it.
Sure they cover the turbo , but not the manifolds haha. And then it looks like they spray on like 2-3 wicked thick coats.
Not to mention that an engine or generator is usually already painted before it's mated together.
I've had plenty of bolts around the engine where you gotta set the box end of the wrench or socket on, and smack it on with a hammer cause it doesn't fit😝
That paint burns nice on the manifolds too 😝
@@MrTheHillfolk Wow, extreme reply... Sorry you have been mistreated in your past.
@@paulsilva3346 who said anything about that, that's just from 20+ years of working on this stuff and seeing what I see on a daily.
With those shades of red and blue, I was half expecting there to be a stylized S somewhere on the block.
Also Thank You for taking the time and effort to not
be lazy and paint the engine assembled!!!
SO MUCH CLEANER and professional looking!
I really enjoy these videos!!!!!!
To the owner of the Vee Dub with Michigan tag USCGFAM: Fair winds and following seas.
Anyone else become very concerned when the assembly lube for the cam bearings looked a lot like the glyptal? lol
I was thinking the same thing
I thought to myself what the f-k
I thought “why did he say to be careful with it and then just slather it on the cam” until I realized it was assembly lube
@@estbeta me two my assembly lube is blue
So pretty, Blue and Red and pink.
Glad to see some one else install their camshaft first ! I always try and stress that to customers . No matter how much you try and install the bearings correctly there is always those that are a problem and it's a lot easier to fix without the crankshaft and rods installed . Recently I installed a set in a 15 liter Volvo industrial engine . Didn't have a cam to test it with , told the customer to be sure and check them . He didn't ! They were actually semi finished and hade to be line bored to fit the cam . The engine had to be completely disassembled to fix it .
Yeah for USCG FAM! I'm proud to have served 20 years in the USCG and am well aware Traverse City is a Coast Guard City. BZ!
Thats a dream shop . room, light , tools and heat. 😊😊
Awesome! Fun project. Great attention to detail. Can't wait for the next one (and the next one) and so on and so on.
Hey Hagerty, will Davin and Ben be doing a Redline Rebuild Explained for the straight eight Buick. I think I speak for many when I say that those are really enjoyable.
This, many times this!
Just had my 327 engine totally rebuilt to stock. Now I know why it cost so much. Love watching the Cad engine rebuild.
This is as clean as in a lab. This is impressive!
Davin, I just wanted to suggest to you a better way of installing cam bearings one at a time and checking for being able to turn the cam by hand, that way you know which bearing might be tight rather than checking with all the bearings installed. I learned this from Nick Panaritis on Nick's Garage on TH-cam.
That’s the way I used to build PCs, and now I do it with servers and networks. One piece at a time. Takes longer but make troubleshooting way easier.
Also, why not learn to use a CAM SCRAPING Tool.? Refer to SQUATCH 253, and their IN DEPTH International Harvester Super M wheeled tractor engine Rebuild.?.! Excellently rebuilt, in my opinion.!
I’m glad you painted the inside of the engine I did it on my MKII engine and a lot of people laughed. Your right it’s a real bugger to get off.
I think it's cool that you use Glyptal. It used to be pretty common from what I understand but it seems that in recent years nobody takes the extra time to do it. A friend of mine sent me some pictures of a big block that he pulled out of his rock crawler to rebuild and I noticed that there was glyptal in the lifter valley. I mentioned it and he said that he wanted to do take care of all the little details. Which I thought was awesome as while I had known about the existence of glyptal i'd never seen it on an engine in person prior.
If you want details, the Jafromobile channel has a deep-dive about glyptal. As Davin mentioned in this video, surface prep is critical.
Because modern fuel contains ethanol, which attacks glyptal. Any in the oil and you've filled the oil pickup with paint sludge. Grind the inside of the block smooth or dont mess with it. Paint goes on the outside!
@@Danglebarry62 a quick google search didn't come up with anything. If you have a link to some testing i'd like to check it out. I run non-ethanol fuel in my 57 but not in my 79 (even though I probably should run non-ethanol in it too). And when the 79 gets a rebuild I don't want to put glyptal in it if it's going to end up killing my engine. My friend didn't have any issues with his big block.
This dude is doing what I dream to do. Paint and build motors.
Going that extra step is well worth it . Great share ! ENJOYED..
I could watch davin all day long
Proper and righteous.
That crankshaft is freaking huge!
Thanks hagerty for uploading another video. Been waiting for this.
That’s going together great . 😎👍🇨🇦
You can 3D print softer more compliant materials to make silicone plugs if you have the right hot end setup on the printer. May be worth a look for those plugs.
Good call on the glyptal.
Love the attention to detail!
Love the color . I recently done a 50 Flathead Ford . It was a funky bronze color , had a hard time getting the right mix on it .
That's an awesome scissor lift at 2:07
You guys are amazing keep it going🧑🏻🔧
Hi Davin, looking very nice buddy, stay safe! 👍🇬🇧😊
This was very helpful.
Also there's Another trick of epoxying steel screen across the big openings where the lifters go in in the the lifter Valley that's for keeping out all types of little pieces of metal that may be in the top-end from getting down to the camshaft but if you want to keep those open so you can go ahead and access the cam bearings easier than yes you wouldn't put that in like that.
First rate detailed job on the painting! I would have loved to have seen how you checked the crank bearing clearances. You did check the crank bearing clearances, right?
excelente programa, subtítulos en español seria genial. saludos desde Chile. SIGAN ASI.
I don't know what software you're designing those plugs in, but you should be able to change your export settings to get objects more curved rather than many noticeable flats. Would seal better in round holes.
STL? Sorry had to. :)
Nice Ford blue!
...this beats joga - keep on guruing😉
enjoyed the video man
Красавец !!! 👍
(Smmmokin' looking engine, by the by!).
Are those freeze plugs in the right way around? I've never seen them put in that way, always concave out. Is that right? Or do I just need to get out more?
I saw that too & wondered why Davin put them in that way. Maybe he could elaborate on the difference?
Reverse freeze plugs exist, the flange taper is backwards. They are driven in as shown and center punched as shown to swell them.
Does glyptal really work?
Great news 👍
Nice job on paint prep. Who else body works their oil pan before painting it? Off to Pebble Beach!
Awesome 👍
"Cadillac Black !" 👍😁✌🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
91% or better isopropyl alcohol will take off glyptal without issue it cuts thru it like butter if you don't want to hunt for 91% alcohol use Heet fuel drier it will do just as good and cut thru the glyptal yes it's almost pure Alcohol .when it comes to freeze plugs I like to think of it like this do you want to replace that freeze plug in the back of the engine during winter because you used a steel one and it rusted out or just take the safe route and put in all brass . I have changed a lot of freeze plugs in my time and learned the hard way to only use brass ones .
Fun fact Glyptal dates back to 1914 and was first formulated by Thomas A Edison as Part of what became GE
I'm pretty sure in all my years I've never seen glazing putty be applied to an oil pan!!!! That did come out really nice, though! 🤣🤣👍👍
Wow, along with the great content, the background music is awesome!
Can you prove to me your attention to detail? "We fixed a small dent in the oil pan..." Got it, as you were! :)
What a work of art, too bad the internals get covered up. You reminded me of a kind of a parable my father told me as a kid, about the roofer who did a rough job because nobody would ever see it close up. The moral of the story was to do everything as if it's your own, no one needs to see it for you to know that you've done the job as it should be done. Anyway, paint on gaskets looks so backyard shed.
Uncle Tony would agree with you on the glyptal on the inside of the block
I think I saw Tony using rustoleum and cigarette ashes on his motors. 🤣
What kind of masking tape is that? Mine disintegrates immediately when I touch it with degreaser. Let alone spray it down with it!
Might be yellow frog tape but idk exactly
Maybe Scotch brand exterior masking tape. It has a plastic feel to it and is waterproof.
I love this channel, but I gotta say the body filler on the oil pan hurt 😬.
The crease mark by the oil drain I can understand, but the few dings could have been sorted with a few whacks from a hammer and dollie.
Super curious about those freeze plugs! Reversed? Not something I'm familiar with...
Any difference between the blue and yellow tape? Why was the bottom masked off at your shop and the top masked off at the paint shop? Great videos, you do a great job explaining the process.
Hello, i am french and i love all your video and in particular your timelaspt rebuilt WHO are amazing. So i recently bought a 1965 cadillac with 429 engine who i am now rebuilding but i found not the torque (Nm) for the crankshaft, the cylinder heads and the connecting rods. Your engine in this video is similary to my engine. Can You help me for this ? Thank You !!
I really do not understand the concern over the dents on the oil pan, but it seems like you should have taken the tine to hammer them out.
Great assembly job. I'm wondering if the thick red lube on the crank and cam will mix with the engine oil without causing damage to the engine?
Probably okay or Devin wouldn't use it.
Gm should have used the blue instead of Orange nice job
😂🤭🤫 I was gonna give you ribbing for not using the shop truck.... then I seen the snow so guessing it's like 2°c or less than.... dont mind me I'll just sit in the corner🤣😂
+++ 8:20 AND UP UNTIL 8:27, I am comfy-cozy thinking ALRIGHT a nice soliloquy from a Wise Man while coating GLYPTOL... Awww, NO, the TIME-Lapse for GLYPTOL, 8:28 .!.!.?.? I have a Triumph TR 4 Engine to BUILD, and I bought a QT. of GLYPTOL for it and future Builds..! Also I paint gaskets also, as I have found they stay pliable for longer. Not EXPOSED to the Elements.... I am MOST Disappointed with Davin and the crew... Sigh...
When you installed the main bearings I saw that you installed one at a time including torquing the main bearings one bearing at a time... Instead of putting in the bearings and then bolting them in some sort of pattern (middle to outside?) I guess the installation of those main bearings don't require that kind of thing?
That's only necessary when the bolts you're torquing are all holding one single assembly, like a head for instance. The case of the main bearing caps, they're 5 individual pieces so torquing each one doesn't affect any other one at all so the order in which you torque them doesn't really matter.
The paint looks awesome, is that any special paint? Like heat resistant? Also do you use clear coat on top.
A little overkill, but makes a really nice motor. 👍
Would soda blasting or dry ice blasting save you the sanding time in the paint process? Great work.
What are you using to do the final cleaning on the metal ?
Davin, have you considered using a foam paintbrush?
I'm sure many fans will want to know what kind of paint you used to spray the block?
Like to see rebuild of the 1967 429 Cadillac engine
This engine is very similar, its a 365. In 1959 it was turned into a 390 and then redesigned in 63 or 64 as the 429. In the redesign Cadillac made it smaller and more efficient, but enlarged it 429 cubic inches.
What kind of tape do you use? Do the modern paints require a special tape? Charles
@Hagerty @Davin - What is the engine build lubricant that is used? I am curious because it paints on so nice... Looking for a different lube for my rebuilds and I would like to try what you use. Thanks for any info. :-)
What kind of engine lube did you use?
what is that pink grease he's putting on everything?
why did you torque the main caps as you installed them, one at a time
? is that a caddy thing?
See you later Davin.
What media do you use when sandblasting? Sand or Glass beads, or something else?
What was music you were playing for this video?
What are you using to wipe down the engine before painting?
What was that red paint? I didn't understand for what it was used.
Did they bake in the glyptal?
What was all that white stuff on the ground up there in traverse City? (signed) Fraz from Ocala, Fl...
It's pretty much gone now. 50 degrees today!
Vroom!
Could it be a square patch welded into the pan? I an thinking someone stripped the plug and went cheap on the fix.
Where can I sign up to have my engine rebuilt by Davin?
When will you start the ct70 again?
A rebuilt motor without painted gaskets is perfect imo.
Hmmm, apparently, I've watch too many kindigit creations having me believe a $1 roll of aluminum foil would of prevented your engine stand from over spray and kept it all red. Most painters don't care about over spray. Cheers!
what kind of paint you using on block? appears to not need primer!
I think in a past episode he’s said that they use a single stage paint but I don’t remember a brand
exactly what assembly lube do you use?? my son and i have been talking about glyptol.. for a car that will sit all winter in the far north not running im thinking yes he thinks its a waste??? thoughts
Out of curiosity, how big's the difference of heat expansion between Brass & Steel freeze plugs? Other than aesthetics, is there any other reason to use the Brass?
I used to work in an machine shop for a summer job growing up, i asked the owner the same thing. He told me that he used brass for marine build engines (fresh water in the Great Lakes) he didn’t actually go into details but I assumed for corrosion purposes? And B, they look cool
Mesin apa ngab
Inside of my engine was coated. It is grey. Now I am trying to figure out if they did not use glyptal.
Glyptol is supposed to be baked after application..... It says that on my can and on the official information.
What, running the engine doesn't count? lol
What does a guy need to spray on the block to prep it for paint?
Use the brass because the steel rots!