The _Albatros_ pictured at 0:28 is not the same vessel. That one is a Dutch klipper (shallow-draft trading ketch) built in 1899, and is still afloat today, based in Wells-Next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England. Aside from that, this is an excellent summary of the life of a tall ship, with obviously a lot of research: I like that you found some actual footage of her which I had not seen before, rather than the stock footage so many other channels use. I read Ernest Gann's 'Song of the Sirens' as a teenager, all about the trials and tribulations of a boat-owner - his descriptions are so vivid that I fell in love with _Albatross_ before I even saw a picture of her.
Thank you, you are correct. During research it turned out that there were several “Albatrosses” at the time. Anyway, this one was used for the purpose of visualizing elements such as name with one "s" and type of sails.
Several other images of schooners in this video don't appear to be the vessel under discussion either. 1 or 2 of them appear to be racing yachts of the late 1800's or early 1900's...
"badass tidbits of history". This channel is kinda awesome.....myself, and my cat, currently rationing fuel @ anchor in Alaska. waiting to be frozen in.... Located emergency shelter in the woods in case boat catches fire... Tis' a good life...SV "INGRID38" that movie was super sad at the end. excellent acting I remember. okay bye. now.
Changing the rigg from schooner to square brought the sailpoint ( combined forces on the sails) much more forewards. He probably also made a heavier mast and also the Ra’s were additional weight. I think she dove forewards into the waves on a for-the-wind coarse or broad reach.
A sailing ship with square sails only at the forward mast and gaff sails on the aft mast is more accurately called a schooner brig. A true brigantine also carries square topsails on the aft mast. I'm currently refitting and re-rigging the former schooner brig Flying Coney.
@@uasupply Thank you so much! When I first saw the film the white squall I knew that I want to have such a sailing ship. I even talked about it with a friend who wanted to become a teacher at that time. I think I was 15 back then.
A 2-masted vessel carrying square sails on both masts is usually a brig. If the fore-&-aft mainsail is set from another spar standing between deck & maintop, that is a snow. To be a brigantine it must have a ship-rigged foremast of 3 sections with a schooner-rigged mainmast of 2 sections. All these terms were different in the early 1700's. It's very complicated!
Whenever a vessel and especially a sailing vessel is rerigged, a thorough stability analysis should be conducted by a licensed, qualified naval architect. I doubt this was ever done in this case.
During the Great Age of Sail there were no "qualified marine architects". Ships sank or swam on the skill of their builders, captains & crews. Ballasting & sail carried was always ultimately the Captain's call. Rigs were often modified &/or ballast shifted during the maiden voyage to better suit the Captain's preferences for handling, speed or safety.
@@angelikaopland7880 The 1960s was not the “age of sail” and there were thousands of licensed, qualified naval architects available to be hired for assessing the stability of a vessel. A prudent owner/operator of a sail training vessel in that period would have spent the money for that service.
NOT "the same reason". Same wind phenomenon, but Albatross was under way, under sail & Bayesian was at anchor with all sails furled, & STILL tipped right over & flooded. A vessel similar to Albatross was nearby, at anchor with sails furled, & survived. Both vessels dragged anchor some distance before the wind passed, but Bayesian went to the bottom.
@@robertsigsworth8229 They must, because they had already okayed riding at anchor with the centerboard up...& they stuck on that oversized mast. Both were bad calls.
More ballast could have been added to compensate, or perhaps ANY sailing vessel might have been overwhelmed, had it been there. This is why the officers & crew must keep a constant "weather eye" open & be ready to cast off sheets & head off the wind. Let the sails flog to shreds if it's that or the ship....
White squall was probably one of the best movies ever made
The _Albatros_ pictured at 0:28 is not the same vessel. That one is a Dutch klipper (shallow-draft trading ketch) built in 1899, and is still afloat today, based in Wells-Next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England. Aside from that, this is an excellent summary of the life of a tall ship, with obviously a lot of research: I like that you found some actual footage of her which I had not seen before, rather than the stock footage so many other channels use. I read Ernest Gann's 'Song of the Sirens' as a teenager, all about the trials and tribulations of a boat-owner - his descriptions are so vivid that I fell in love with _Albatross_ before I even saw a picture of her.
Thank you, you are correct. During research it turned out that there were several “Albatrosses” at the time. Anyway, this one was used for the purpose of visualizing elements such as name with one "s" and type of sails.
Several other images of schooners in this video don't appear to be the vessel under discussion either. 1 or 2 of them appear to be racing yachts of the late 1800's or early 1900's...
"badass tidbits of history". This channel is kinda awesome.....myself, and my cat, currently rationing fuel @ anchor in Alaska. waiting to be frozen in.... Located emergency shelter in the woods in case boat catches fire... Tis' a good life...SV "INGRID38" that movie was super sad at the end. excellent acting I remember. okay bye. now.
Thank you and your good vessel INGRID38. May you have good luck and take care of yourselves from fire and frost.
...good luck Ingrid! been there,done that and would do it again to remind myself of just how great life on this planet really is❤
Changing the rigg from schooner to square brought the sailpoint ( combined forces on the sails) much more forewards. He probably also made a heavier mast and also the Ra’s were additional weight. I think she dove forewards into the waves on a for-the-wind coarse or broad reach.
A sailing ship with square sails only at the forward mast and gaff sails on the aft mast is more accurately called a schooner brig. A true brigantine also carries square topsails on the aft mast. I'm currently refitting and re-rigging the former schooner brig Flying Coney.
You are doing a great job!
@@uasupply Thank you so much! When I first saw the film the white squall I knew that I want to have such a sailing ship. I even talked about it with a friend who wanted to become a teacher at that time. I think I was 15 back then.
A 2-masted vessel carrying square sails on both masts is usually a brig. If the fore-&-aft mainsail is set from another spar standing between deck & maintop, that is a snow. To be a brigantine it must have a ship-rigged foremast of 3 sections with a schooner-rigged mainmast of 2 sections. All these terms were different in the early 1700's. It's very complicated!
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Whenever a vessel and especially a sailing vessel is rerigged, a thorough stability analysis should be conducted by a licensed, qualified naval architect. I doubt this was ever done in this case.
During the Great Age of Sail there were no "qualified marine architects". Ships sank or swam on the skill of their builders, captains & crews. Ballasting & sail carried was always ultimately the Captain's call. Rigs were often modified &/or ballast shifted during the maiden voyage to better suit the Captain's preferences for handling, speed or safety.
@@angelikaopland7880
The 1960s was not the “age of sail” and there were thousands of licensed, qualified naval architects available to be hired for assessing the stability of a vessel. A prudent owner/operator of a sail training vessel in that period would have spent the money for that service.
That’s a good move
Bayesian had the same fate for same reason
yes, yet the ship builders and and designers are still trying to blame the captain and crew.
NOT "the same reason". Same wind phenomenon, but Albatross was under way, under sail & Bayesian was at anchor with all sails furled, & STILL tipped right over & flooded. A vessel similar to Albatross was nearby, at anchor with sails furled, & survived. Both vessels dragged anchor some distance before the wind passed, but Bayesian went to the bottom.
@@robertsigsworth8229 They must, because they had already okayed riding at anchor with the centerboard up...& they stuck on that oversized mast. Both were bad calls.
Modifications, Modifications, 😢
More ballast could have been added to compensate, or perhaps ANY sailing vessel might have been overwhelmed, had it been there. This is why the officers & crew must keep a constant "weather eye" open & be ready to cast off sheets & head off the wind. Let the sails flog to shreds if it's that or the ship....
"Albatross!"
"Albatross!"
"Albatross For Christs Sake!"
"Salty petrel on a stick!"
"What flavor is it?"
"What do you mean, 'what flavor is it?'. It's bleedin' seabird flavor!"
Song of the Sirens...best E K Gs q work