Why Democratic Governments Were Toppled in Pakistan? | Ep 01 | The Fight for Democracy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ส.ค. 2023
- From General Ayub Khan to General Pervez Musharraf, democracy in Pakistan has a history of suffering at the hands of military rulers. Episode 01 of 'The Fight for Democracy' sheds light on the challenges Pakistan's political setup had to face in its lifetime.
TCM presents ‘The Fight for Democracy’, a documentary series exploring the turbulent history of civil-military relations in Pakistan, the electables' phenomenon, and how geopolitics enabled military rule in Pakistan. The aim is to offer insight into possible reforms to enable the fight for democracy in its truest sense.
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pakistani people still unaware that real problem is establishment and people ignorance
Not establishment but Islam
@@jitendratiwari6886bro etna b root cause ki trf mt jayn 😂 hazam ni hota etna sach awam sy
@@jitendratiwari6886 lol Islam is the reason that shit*ole region of Bharat became superpower known as Hindustan and Mughal Empire. An ignorant jobless idol worshipper working for BJP media cell doesn't have enough mental capacity to comment on religious topics.
@@jitendratiwari6886They're are 50 Muslims majority countries and many of them have used Islam in their politics and nothing happened to those countries. So NO, it is not religion; it is corruption, the lack of democracy, martial rule and all kinds of dirty politics that has destroyed the country. Stop blaming a religion which has existed for 1400 and ruled your country for a 1000 years, that it is responsible. Your people submitted to the rule for almost a millennia, if it was how you say it is, you wouldn't even exist anymore.
@@jitendratiwari6886 with the name of peace if emarica spread disaster does it mean that peace is responsible for that
The most important trait of an army is discipline. Discipline means obeying orders of elected representatives. If an army doesn't obey to an elected leader....it is no more called as Army.....it becomes a " mercenary "
Mercenaries of their American bosses
This is not Pakistani issue, its a Islamic problem , Not sure what is the issue everywhere Islam is in majority this problem exists
@@WaheedKhan-bq3sl😂true
@@vkp6360 Stop talking bullshit, just look at America. If you ever read American constitution,they have 3 branches,which has check and balances ok each other. Whereas Pakistan civilian imposed first martial law. Which made army confident. Pakistan has parliamentary system. Which is the problem,In this system Parliament is Executive and Legislative at the same time. Which gives army upper do whatever the fuck they want. In America president is the army chief.
It is amazing that since the inspection of Pakistan, the mindset of the establishment is the same & they think that THEY are the savior while infact they destroyed the country.
Yes, the same diary conspiracy again
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
Bro I'm pretty sure everybody absolutely hates the military now. Except army brats who are arrogant spoiled cunts.
Pakistan is doomed to collapse...your country was established on the base of religion so it was meant to fall....you guys threw all the good minds like your famous scientist Abdus salam...you guys never cared about Baluchi people,non muslims....and your people are not united...they dont have the guts to stand againts the military....if you guys stood againts the military they wont dare to intervene anymore....
Pakistan is a sad country. it always had worst/chore/corrupt politicians/police/Army/CivilService. all of them harami/mafia/goonday. Paki people are so good/nice then why the ruling classes are super harami? kaash PakiAwam had courage to put all of them in jail for life and elect good people.
Pakistan was always meant to be a British military outpost in the region. Now, leased to the U.S.
Even US kicked out Pak now
Indian reunification is the only way for real progress in South Asia…. Justice Katju’s views on Indian reunification may seem radical now but will manifest themselves….. We the 90s and 2000s generations will live to see a united subcontinent…..
Thanks...for having sensibility to understand british motive for creating pakistan and why pakistan is a military state forever.
India do not want 240 million Islamist extremist on their country.
@@BadAss_691
You are from India and you are right. However the Muslims will have no place in United India. Hinduism is extremely intolerant. It finished Budhism and many others from indian soil, they are finishing Muslims in India and and the United India is not going to be an exception.
Thank God, we got Visionary Leaders like PM Jawaharlal Nehru.
Despite 4 wars with Pakistan and 1 imposed war with China.
Despite all challenges, keep our Nation on track of Development , IT and progressive mood .
While Pakistan Army becomes undeclared Kings of Pakistan.
Ep1 is good. Hoping this saga will bring true case of pakistani democracy dying into the hands of dictators till date
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
It strikes me as odd that not a single prime minister has completed a full term in office since 1947.
Only country in the world where pseudo democracy exists and to have this dubious record, Embarassing to say the least.
More were removed by presidents and political wrangling than military
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
because they were not elected prime ministers... but imposed by Governor General of Pakistan.. no elections till 1958 ... why ??
Pakistan is a sad country. it always had worst/chore/corrupt politicians/police/Army/CivilService. all of them harami/mafia/goonday. Paki people are so good/nice then why the ruling classes are super harami? kaash PakiAwam had courage to put all of them in jail for life and elect good people.
Lieutenant Gen R is speaking in a manner which has to be changed.... Their mindset has to be managed and controlled from their training stages
In ka ye mindset training mai he tayar keya jata hai
@@WiseTv2019 exactly, issi liye to kaha h k training stages ei se mindset badalna h or pro democracy dimagh banana paren gy
Yeh loag zameen pay khuda banay huay hain.
@ibrarahmed2018 yeah tarbeat ingraze ki dee howi hy! Danday ky zoor pr awam ko ghulam jeasy rakho.
Kionke ye taaqat ke nashe mein choor hein.
Countries have army but in Pakistan the army has a country
Pakistan is a sad country. it always had worst/chore/corrupt politicians/police/Army/CivilService. all of them harami/mafia/goonday. Paki people are so good/nice then why the ruling classes are super harami? kaash PakiAwam had courage to put all of them in jail for life and elect good people.
Rattu tota
thank you to the few elites for throwing a massive country down the drain....warmest respects for army, politicians, bureaucracy, and judiciary....
Elites come from Pak Army, and political class who have put the Pakistan and its people in this situation and Media has no power against them.
One small point: army controls the other three institutions in the country.
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
“Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it”. Thanks for making this informative masterpiece, highlighting some major sad incidents so that we remember our mistakes and correct them.
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
Hum fauj ki wajah se bahut peeche reh gaye hain..... India hum se bahut agey nikal giya hai
Pak Foj = Pak Bhoj
We want establishment free Pakistan, we want democracy, not hybrid regimes.
Pakistan Zindabad 🇵🇰
Establishment Murdabad 🪖
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
Pakistan only need khilafat!!!!!
Extremely stupid
Pskistan Army Establishment'MURDA BAD'
Black Vigo will never leave that position now because the majority of the business in Pakistan are done by the Pak boj😂
this is what the pasktiani youth really need to watch ! good job
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
The hate for army is increasing rapidly in young Youth after watching and observing all these dictatorship and establishment games
12minute video bohat kam hay.
Bohat search kia magar Allama Iqbal ki zindagi pay koi video nhi mili.
Un k kalaam milay...
Un k akhri din pay aik 2 videos mili.
Na id pay video mili k Quaid.e.Azam beemari ki halat mai Road pay paray rahy magar un ko wo protocol na mila jo milna chaiayy tha.
Kia aaap haqeeqat samnay la sakaingy? Proofs k saath?
“humne bhutto sab ko kaha hum apko nikal diye gay” idhr he pakistan ki democracy ka janaza uth gia tha.
Outstanding job TCM❤ May you grow more.
A stupendous effort by TCM. We are desperately waiting for the coming episodes.
No matter how bad the situation gets the army or any institution has no right to dictate to an elected official what they should do.
Country matters more than the constitution.
@@thedemolisher1181 nations gather around a constitution. There is no country without a nation. Also we have broken the constitution multiple times, have you saved the country? The army must be held accountable for the situation we are in today.
@@AbdulRehman-fn4nk If there is threat to the country then it is better to save the country even if one has to break the constitution. Constitution is for the country not the other way round.
@@Modic.deutsch Who said it is the colony of punjab. Muhajirs in karachi support musharraf. Remember it is muhajirs whom made pakistan. There was little to no support in kpk, balochistan while punjab and sindh was fifty fifty. If it is better for my country, I would support a military coup.
@@thedemolisher1181 There is a famous quote that goes something like this "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." We have had more military coups than most contemporary nations on the planet. Last two years of turmoil is also due to a quasi martial law. So I will support a martial law if its better for my country attitude is at best foolish and at worst treacherous. The generals of this army are criminal and just about as corrupt as any in Pakistan. So this nonsense "if its best for my country" is laughable and deeply saddening at the same time.
The smugness on this Lt. Gen Chishti, I’m 37 now, my whole life I have seen men like him rationalize an indefensible position with impunity.
This man has had no real achievement in his life other than march parading, and thinks he has the sophistication to handle a political mishmash.
Ridiculous how this Pakistani man lacks humility despite being humbled on the battlefield a number of times by the enemy.
The audacity is eerie!
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You can see the gradual Decline of the country's educational standards, infrastructure and the reputation the country had in it's prior years.
This is sickening and maddening. As a citizen they only thing i want from my country is to leave it behind like a bad memory.
The sad reality is Pak has always been under military dictatorship whether directly or indirectly.
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
Pakistan is a sad country. it always had worst/chore/corrupt politicians/police/Army/CivilService. all of them harami/mafia/goonday. Paki people are so good/nice then why the ruling classes are super harami? kaash PakiAwam had courage to put all of them in jail for life and elect good people.
TCM is the best yt channel on youtube of Pakistan Politics , current issues i must say now 👍👌
Great work by tcm , maximum information given in very short time. Keep it up
WOW! CANNOT WAIT FOR MORE-
Hope so you are fine, that are my views, which might be wrong:-
Visual in the talking head shoots are mind blowing, literally Netflix level content.
Visual storytelling:- 9.5/10
Sound effects:- 8/10
Editing:- 8.5/10
Keep creating such amazing contents. Best wishes for the TCM team ❤.
This is great, i will
Share this video everywhere possible, let the world know about the duffer military of Pakistan
My all productive time in TH-cam with you TCM❤. Bundle of thanks for worthy content 👍.
Such an amazing video. Waiting for the othe part(s). Thank you
😢shame on you aramy 😢
Not army.
Only Generals.
Our brothers are in Army
@@MR.FlyingMonkey agreed 👍 bro 😎
@@imranmughal9542 delete this comment.
Indian hindus become happy when they see pakistani people disrespecting their soliders
your these brothers wil kill you on the orders of their generals
@@MR.FlyingMonkeyFoji bhi army mein hi aate. Agar unko sach pta hai aur fir bhi generals k order follow krte to woh bhi ghalat hain
Keep doing these projects love it and waiting for second episode hope it will release soon
Thank you so much for making it.
It's really good to see such thought-provoking content are being made in such needy times to bring the paradigm shift but sadly we are still long road from brining that effective change to mend the things.
Well edited, really appreciate the the editor, and Thankyou TCM
Loved the comment, that if someone was not performing that it was the right of the people of Pakistan to deselect them not some dictator
This channel is highly recommended as it's the best source for neutral, fair, and balanced content. I used to only listen to Dr. Moeed, but now I prefer this channel. Highly recommended.
The way Gen Faiz Chishti said in this video about takeover need at that time pretty much sums up the sorry state of this country.
Thanks to the speakers for also highlighting which generals actually supported and followed the constitution
We want free and fair democracy in Pakistan. Establishment should not interfere in politics.
It's not a bottomless pit. Sooner or later we'll bounce. In today's digital era, you can't keep it hidden forever. The system will flush everyone out. It may take 10-15-20 years but we'll get there.
Excellent video, big congrats to the team who made it possible, hats off to you, love from india
TCM great work,keep doing it,we support you
I love TCM channel bcz of the references they give with each argument they present ⭐❤️🇵🇰
i dont have words to appreciate your effort.
Loved the comment about diversity reflected in the signatures of constitution and resilience of Pakistani nation.
My favourite channel of all time.❤
Wish i could be part of this initiative...
thanks for bringing this up. for sure many visuals of civil resistance against the undemocratic forces were kept away from citizens.
Pakistan is a sad country. it always had worst/chore/corrupt politicians/police/Army/CivilService. all of them harami/mafia/goonday. Paki people are so good/nice then why the ruling classes are super harami? kaash PakiAwam had courage to put all of them in jail for life and elect good people.
this is the only media channel that has valuable contents
The best program, well done!
I subscribed !! really great info
seeking forward for next interesting episode
Outstanding effort 👍👍👍
Thankyou TCM❤❤❤
We have blessed to have TCM
Great job TCM
TCM ❤ you're doing great job
Pakistan cannot move forward because of the high ambitions of Pakistan Army officers. This is not only a problem for Pakistan but also for many Muslim majority countries like Egypt, Algeria, Bangladesh etc.
Thanks TCM❤
Great documentary 👍
@TCMOriginals Quality production! 👍
There is a stark difference this time ... Earlier people welcomed toppling of the democratic govt. This time military EST toppled a people backed govt and leader.
Bhai 2018 me bhe people backed govt thi. Us waqt dance kr rhey they pti wale. Abh i hope samaj agai hogi in ko.
@@bekind913
Lekin PMLN aur PPP wale to bohot khush jain... Unke sath to 3-4 dafa hone k baad bhi unke dimaghon mein kuch nahi ghusta.
Really brave content by TCM during this tumultuous and unconstitutional time in Pakistan's history.
Which keeps coming over and over again. Reminds me of a quote that goes something like: the thing that humans do not learn from history is that they do not learn from history.
@@fahadhussain66 I agree. It's also something like "those who do not learn from events of the past, are doomed to repeat them". Its one of my fav quotes
InshaAllah Pakistan will rise with democracy
Pakistan Zindabad
❤ 🇵🇰 ❤
Ilaj krwayn bhai apna. Kia bol rahy ho
@@realaxis2562 tu ja kr apna ilaj krwa ly
Democracy is the only way for Pakistan❤
It’s not over till it is over.
Excellent work keep it up
good work.....
Only democracy is solution
excellent work
Beautiful series
Great keep going
Waiting for next episode
Well Explained.
Best info episode
Finally.. but stranger things by D- brothers will continue till there's a hero like Mujeeb at least that's what is shown by history.
❤ interesting
@TCMoriginals you are doing a good work plz Make more videos based on Reality.
Kindly exclude Imran Khan, he is not fallen yet, he has won the war against ignorance. He is succeeded.
Thanks sir very useful
Great work
5:13 audacity
Hn buddhay ko giraftaar krna chahye
Bhutto ne shi mai rigging karwai thi this is history na pata ho tou na Bola karo. Bhutto was also the reason we lost Bangladesh
@@mustafaahmed4410 o fauji chamchay . Faujiyon sy history suno gy to jhoothe history btayn gy .
Esi liay neutral perspective sy dekhna chahye cheezon ko
@@mustafaahmed4410 to court ka kaam hai rigging rokna ya fouj ka ???
@@user_9O837OO naam change karle....
Naam rakhle "Ram gand Narendra Kumar"
Teri soch par suit karega gaddar
The end, we still have hope!
General Sahab so proudly said that we had conveyed to ZA Bhutto clearly that if you don't make the situation better, we will fire you. Who the hell are you to fire people's representatives? How could they have been so proud at that time when it was only a few years after the fall of Dhaka and the wounds were still fresh? And why haven't they talked about the role of the USA in all this?
This is most well documented study I have ever seen. However, being IK supporter i just wanted to say try to show all the main events happened in martial laws govements. Then we gonna realise what we have lost and in democratic government what we gonna achieve.
IK is only leader who showed the reality of autocratic government and the ones who is governing almost most than 35 years. He told us we are not slaves. This is the only point i am with him more than 20 years.
@@user-zs6tt7bf3n IK is not the first one, benazir and nawaz also stated it in 90s, diff is that IK just mixed foriegn intervention in it too
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
@@ahmedmanzar4575mixed? Soo u still believe "SYPHER" is a lie? ....come on man. The world knows now 👍
Well explained
The future of our coming generations is lost because of the generals who consider themselves as the master of this country. The only possible way considered to survive is to leave and settle elsewhere.
We all talk about the history but no one talks about the present. It means we have not yet learned our lesson!!!
واہ ہم نے صبر کیا۔۔۔ کیا کہنے، کتنا غرور ہے کیا آئین میں لکھا تھا کہ تم نے ایسا کہنا ہے کہ ہمارا کہنا مانو ورنہ ہم یہ کر دیں گے۔۔۔ اللہ تمہیں ضرور پوچھے گا۔ کمزور لوگ تو کچھ نہیں کر سکتے۔۔۔
It’s such a good series but edited in a very bad way. The shots go by so fast, no breaks given between the speakers. Atleast, there should have been a 2-3 second break in between, atleast.
Also, I had to rewind and go back to the start two times because it just didn’t feel like a start. I thought I started a second or a third episode or I started from the middle. The names of the speakers are also a miss. Here’s hoping further episodes are better edited.
The trailer was so good! But the series doesn’t hold attention for me at all and that is only because of the edit.
Great work, TCM :)
Achi reports ha
Many things to look into but the few most important are; Constitutional reform (according to the genius of our people rather than copying the UK), Religious extremism, Hereditary politics, Military role, and sorry to say the Punjabi attitude toward Pakistan ( no offense). And I request the TCM to create some constructive contents which contributes to the progress of the youth, instead of scratching the past. these things only implant negativity in our minds.
whats a punjabi attitude? asking as a punjabi!
@@AnnieZehra condescending!
@@AnnieZehra I'm sorry! But it has an issue that need to be addressed.
Good documentary
Sir, kya rice m sita nikalny k wqt ya sita nikalny k bad kr skty hn ?
Constant fight of interest between military and civil establishment the reason why Pakistan could not because a democratic state but what steps should be taken in near future to make it democratic
Sad reality civilians in Pakistan are left on the mercy of allah 😔 a large population doesn’t even got a proper water to drink 😒 no proper education n healthcare system 🙁
Muslim hun India se hun , Allah ka lakh shukr yahi reh gaya, mei apne marzi se shariyat pe b amal,kar saktahun yahan. Alhamdulilah
@@appleworld2958 Definitely, ask me i will tell you the reality, media and politicians infested your minds about India.
@@appleworld2958 no no seriously ask me , anything you have heard about us.
Don't pollute opportunist with great Khan. IK is a saviour of the nation
It’s actually some valuable and informative content which all pakistanies should watch to understand there’s true history. Not the manipulated narrative that shown in the history books.
Pakistan is a sad country. it always had worst/chore/corrupt politicians/police/Army/CivilService. all of them harami/mafia/goonday. Paki people are so good/nice then why the ruling classes are super harami? kaash PakiAwam had courage to put all of them in jail for life and elect good people.
WE KASHMIRIS ARE LISTENING TO THIS ALL.
May Allaah Give Hidaayah to all muslims round the globe.
The lives of 250 million Pakistanis will never be put in danger for 20 million Kashmiris
Pakistan needs to acquire a sincere leader. To give a good outcome, for the present story.
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Hegel.