After playing many different brands of grand piano in many shops over time, I had noticed (without realising why until watching this) that Kawai actions felt absolutely gorgeous. Very consistent and predictable, allowing me to play incredibly softly compared to most of the other pianos which were sometimes good, sometimes not.
I find ABS Styron and ABS carbon fibre to be the best piano actions around! As a piano tuner I always recommend kawia as their touch and response and power is amazing (not to mention tone)
I have a question.When we talk about millenium 3 action on upright and millenium 3 action on a grand are they the same or are they different? How does millenium 3 on upright compare with grand feel action in terms of repetition speed
they are different, bc the actions on upright and the actions on grand structured differently. They all called millennium 3 not bc they are structured the same, but made from the same material. One more thing is millennium 3 on upright has longer key length compare to other brands.
Steinway pianos are all over the board. Sometimes you will find excellent Steinways that will be impressive. Other times, you’ll find Steinways that are mediocre. There are many stories I’ve heard of where pianists have to go through many Steinways to find the one that they want.
@@worldlinerai "pianists have to go through many Steinways to find the one that they want" That's perfectly normal for every instrument of a certain quality, because handmade instruments have their own character. It's not a cons, it's what makes them better than the industrial products, and it applies to guitars, violins, everything. And it doesn't mean that some of them are bad, it simply means that one artist can prefer the sound from a specific piano, and another artist can prefer another one.
In Norway, an overhauled Steinway Model M (170 cm) costs about as much as a brand new Kawai baby grand (157 cm). (I don't like the baby word). I'd certainly go for the Kawai, unless test playing would prove disappointing, which I don't expect.
Somehow the concert pianos are still using old action. So professionals have to deal with the old technology. Unless they are liek Zimmerman who carries his own action everywhere.
My apologies for not being able to offer a reply. I doubt Kawai actions would fit other makers' pianos. Please email info@kawaius.com to reach a technician. Indicate whether you are asking about an acoustic or digital piano action.
I wish I had a kawai dealer near me, id love to play one of these pianos. I am a millennial, a machinist and a pianist, and have wondered when someone will make a completely user-serviceable piano (no voicing/regulation, user-replaceable felts (or substitute material that lasts longer, etc.) Looks like this is headed the right way! I am sure between Yamaha and Kawai, we will see less and less wood used as time goes on. Bittersweet...
Hi, congrats for Your great improvements! May I ask You for using just a couple of seconds of this presentation for a music-education oriented video I'm editing right now? Obviously it's a completely NON-PROFIT video! I strongly hope You kindly let me use just a couple of seconds. Really thanks in advance.
This video is pretty cringe, is this really made from official kawai marketing team ? Looks like a video made by a teenager that gets payed 50 bucks to record a sponsored message
Piano is a technology and music making of all forms relies on material (i.e. technological) evolution and progress. KAWAI has been wise to realise this and continue to innovate the modern era of mechanical actions in piano. The belief that wood is always the best material for a musical instrument as compicated as a piano is just fetishism.
Oh please! Total propaganda. "Wood is not stable". So why then Yamaha or let's say Bösendorfer are still making action using wood? Just was wondering how so there aren't any Kawai grands on major concert stages.
I know that’s right! They act like the action is the only wooden component of the piano-the whole thing is wood! And it’s still not good enough for 98% of concert artists, so I’ll pass
@@KawaiPianosOnTH-cam I must credit you for making a very good video and finding a way of rolling into composite parts of the action. Great promotional solution! I did not like the sentiment of Kawai being the only one, the best, the smartest... probably not my style. In terms of Shigeru we all have personal preferences. 20 years ago I did prefer Kawai over Yamaha. it had a warm tone an a nice touch ( I am a performing pianist/composer with a doctorate degree). These days even Shigeru would not be my top choice, especially near CFX or Estonia. But again for many people it might be. The controversy coming between wood and carbon fiber is alarming though. Wood changes, carbon doesn't.Parts claimed to be unbreakable- well, there are cases of them being broken. Any feedback on that?
I'm an engineer and a pianist and I love technology. But please let's be clear, ABS is simply plastic, the same material used in Lego bricks. Plus all high end pianos other than Kawai still use wood and make fantastic sound and speed
Some of the parts are carbon fiber but many are still wood. Wood still twists and changes with the environment. Felt still wears and actions need adjustment for this. Some who sell KAWAII pianos are advertising this action as one that “never wears out!” This is not accurate. Soundboards are still wood as are pinblocks and keys and action frames etc. KAWAII pianos are good pianos but the partial composite action is not without its flaws too. There is no perfect piano as my experience has discovered. IMHO!
DXWV Hi. Yes your right. The issue is a piano dealer who is selling the idea that the piano will never wear out to unsuspecting customers. So we hear people come in to our store who are comparing say they have been told that the piano will never need to do anything to repair or regulate or possibly even tune the piano. This is my problem.
After playing many different brands of grand piano in many shops over time, I had noticed (without realising why until watching this) that Kawai actions felt absolutely gorgeous. Very consistent and predictable, allowing me to play incredibly softly compared to most of the other pianos which were sometimes good, sometimes not.
Timlhto
Concert use: Steinway and Bosendorfer ( Renner Wooden Action )
Home use : Kawai ABS action
My next piano would definitely be a Kawai if you put a Millenium III action in a controller keyboard like the VPC-1.
I find ABS Styron and ABS carbon fibre to be the best piano actions around! As a piano tuner I always recommend kawia as their touch and response and power is amazing (not to mention tone)
"Kawia" sounds great!
What is "Kawia"???
😂😂😂
Really well made video. Good explanation
You really are everywhere aren't you
I'm ready for my Shigeru SK-EX. Going to buy one soon!
I have a question.When we talk about millenium 3 action on upright and millenium 3 action on a grand are they the same or are they different? How does millenium 3 on upright compare with grand feel action in terms of repetition speed
they are different, bc the actions on upright and the actions on grand structured differently. They all called millennium 3 not bc they are structured the same, but made from the same material. One more thing is millennium 3 on upright has longer key length compare to other brands.
I could never go back to “conventional wooden actions”. As a piano tuner. Conventional wooden action in a piano is so sluggish.
May I ask why carbon fiber action is faster(I’m not a piano tuner)? Is it because carbon fiber is lighter than wood or more flexible etc…
Excellent!
It is time for Kawai to build a carbon sound board.
Go to 4:40.
That was an excellent advertisement! Almost persuaded me for a second to get a Kawai and not a Steinway.
Steinway pianos are all over the board. Sometimes you will find excellent Steinways that will be impressive. Other times, you’ll find Steinways that are mediocre. There are many stories I’ve heard of where pianists have to go through many Steinways to find the one that they want.
@@worldlinerai "pianists have to go through many Steinways to find the one that they want"
That's perfectly normal for every instrument of a certain quality, because handmade instruments have their own character. It's not a cons, it's what makes them better than the industrial products, and it applies to guitars, violins, everything. And it doesn't mean that some of them are bad, it simply means that one artist can prefer the sound from a specific piano, and another artist can prefer another one.
@@worldlinerai that’s not just Steinway, that’s all pianos.
Can I put a Millenium III ABS-Carbon Action in my KG5C?
In Norway, an overhauled Steinway Model M (170 cm) costs about as much as a brand new Kawai baby grand (157 cm). (I don't like the baby word). I'd certainly go for the Kawai, unless test playing would prove disappointing, which I don't expect.
What’s the dif from Grand Feel ?
I’m using KG2E since 1990s. It is a jewel.
Somehow the concert pianos are still using old action. So professionals have to deal with the old technology. Unless they are liek Zimmerman who carries his own action everywhere.
What "stability problem" did the early piano system had?
@@KawaiPianosOnTH-cam what about the rest of the wood in the piano? Like the keys? We don’t care about that?
Beautiful, love Kawai pianos... btw @ 5:56 "last" without "s"
@5:33 inner-national? xD
lats???
😂😂😂
It’s right
Blüthner Patent Action?
Can a Kawai keyboard be fitted to other brand pianos?
My apologies for not being able to offer a reply. I doubt Kawai actions would fit other makers' pianos. Please email info@kawaius.com to reach a technician. Indicate whether you are asking about an acoustic or digital piano action.
@@KawaiPianosOnTH-cam No need to apologize. Thanks,
Kawai outstanding piano
I wish I had a kawai dealer near me, id love to play one of these pianos.
I am a millennial, a machinist and a pianist, and have wondered when someone will make a completely user-serviceable piano (no voicing/regulation, user-replaceable felts (or substitute material that lasts longer, etc.) Looks like this is headed the right way! I am sure between Yamaha and Kawai, we will see less and less wood used as time goes on. Bittersweet...
ABS-Carbon is not the same Carbon fiber.
Bicycle and Car... using carbon fiber...
exactly, carbon fiber (resin bound) is much lighter and the fibers can be oriented according to the structural needs.
Hi, congrats for Your great improvements! May I ask You for using just a couple of seconds of this presentation for a music-education oriented video I'm editing right now? Obviously it's a completely NON-PROFIT video! I strongly hope You kindly let me use just a couple of seconds. Really thanks in advance.
NO!
Grand piano
I unfortunately watched this video too late
And baseball bats turned from wood to aluminum. And that sucked.
That's why you don't see any aluminum piano actions
This video is pretty cringe, is this really made from official kawai marketing team ?
Looks like a video made by a teenager that gets payed 50 bucks to record a sponsored message
Piano is a technology and music making of all forms relies on material (i.e. technological) evolution and progress. KAWAI has been wise to realise this and continue to innovate the modern era of mechanical actions in piano. The belief that wood is always the best material for a musical instrument as compicated as a piano is just fetishism.
I still prefer wood
Oh please! Total propaganda. "Wood is not stable". So why then Yamaha or let's say Bösendorfer are still making action using wood? Just was wondering how so there aren't any Kawai grands on major concert stages.
I know that’s right! They act like the action is the only wooden component of the piano-the whole thing is wood! And it’s still not good enough for 98% of concert artists, so I’ll pass
@@KawaiPianosOnTH-cam you would have the capacity if people wanted them. But no one does.
@@KawaiPianosOnTH-cam I must credit you for making a very good video and finding a way of rolling into composite parts of the action. Great promotional solution! I did not like the sentiment of Kawai being the only one, the best, the smartest... probably not my style.
In terms of Shigeru we all have personal preferences. 20 years ago I did prefer Kawai over Yamaha. it had a warm tone an a nice touch ( I am a performing pianist/composer with a doctorate degree). These days even Shigeru would not be my top choice, especially near CFX or Estonia. But again for many people it might be.
The controversy coming between wood and carbon fiber is alarming though. Wood changes, carbon doesn't.Parts claimed to be unbreakable- well, there are cases of them being broken. Any feedback on that?
@@ninasiniakova estonia is crap lol
That’s why you had played the Yamaha U1 vs Kawai K300. The k300 wins hands down in almost all categories
I'm an engineer and a pianist and I love technology. But please let's be clear, ABS is simply plastic, the same material used in Lego bricks. Plus all high end pianos other than Kawai still use wood and make fantastic sound and speed
Some of the parts are carbon fiber but many are still wood. Wood still twists and changes with the environment. Felt still wears and actions need adjustment for this. Some who sell KAWAII pianos are advertising this action as one that “never wears out!” This is not accurate. Soundboards are still wood as are pinblocks and keys and action frames etc. KAWAII pianos are good pianos but the partial composite action is not without its flaws too. There is no perfect piano as my experience has discovered. IMHO!
DXWV Hi. Yes your right. The issue is a piano dealer who is selling the idea that the piano will never wear out to unsuspecting customers. So we hear people come in to our store who are comparing say they have been told that the piano will never need to do anything to repair or regulate or possibly even tune the piano. This is my problem.
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yeah but kawai sounds inferior. I would still choose others
WNG
Kawai parts are much better.