One issue that drives me crazy! Firewood bags are not recyclable. They are garbage. Tired of seeing them draped over site posts. Throw them out. GREAT vids. I’m an experienced RVer/camper but there is always something to learn!
Yes, way back the park staff picked them up, however it's very rare now and people keep doing it waiting for the wood fairy to come and pick it up. I've seen post with at least 15 bags on/surrounding them
Great video! One thing we ran into is people declaring the water tap there's. We've seen people leave there soap, towels and etc at the tap. It's there for everyone. Not just you!
With the end of the camping season upon us, there are several things we observed this summer that were very annoying. 1....people who go camping, but are totally unprepared or ignorant of park rules.....don't have anything to store water in; wander around for a place to wash dishes because they didn’t bring anything to do dishes with; forget to bring an extension cord, even though they booked a hydro site and brought electric appliances; try and start a fire with lighter fluid because they didn't bring an ax; 2....Twinkle lights....everybody seems to have them but our neighbors at Emily PP had them on 24/7, including a Christmas tree. It was super annoying.....and the park people did nothing when they did their drive by. 3....people who don't put out fires properly. One of the reasons we camp is to enjoy fresh air. Fires that are not properly doused tend to smoke or could ignite again. We had 2 sites close to us make fires in the morning before leaving and then leave with fires still smoking in the fire pits. We reported it, but park staff did nothing. We ended up putting water on the fire ourselves. With all the forest fires this summer, this is not acceptable and park staff should be more responsive! 4....Excessive dog barking. Camping is a great way to vacation with a dog, but there are some people who have no control over their dogs who bark at everything and anyone all the time especially when they are left unattended at the campsite.
Park Etiquette number one..... . Provincial parks need to stop charging ten dollars a bag for crappy firewood that will burn for an hour or two tops... You use their wood to cook dinner on the fire, and then you have no wood left for a nice fire at night, unless you want to spend ten or twenty dollars for more, or even more if the wood is really bad... At the Pinery Provincial park, there is a nice camping store along the highway where you can purchase three bags of good wood for 6 bucks(you have to bag it yourself).. but the wood lasts forever and is worth it.. A provincial park site now is almost 50 dollars a night.... the wood is about ten bucks a bag and honestly... for people who like to sit by fires.. you need three of those bags a night... especially if you need to cook on coals.... The price of buying wood almost doubles the price of a campsite.. In contrast.. if you camp in PEI, the sites there are barely over ten dollars... so you can warrant paying for the wood(which is also cheaper there). So my number one pet peeve about camping etiquette is how the Ontario Government is gouging people on not just the price of camping.. but on wood.. If the provincial parks want people to stop collecting wood to burn.. then they need to reduce the cost of their wood that they sell, or at least give people twice as much wood for the price.. It is ridiculous.. You can literally camp for free in Alberta and BC, but in Ontario, you might as well pay to stay in a motel for your camping... food, and firewood.. . Camping is supposed to be a cheap vacation.. but seven days campings... is about 45 a day, plus a minimum of ten dollars for a small bag of wood, and then food, then the gas to get there and back.. a person could easily spend a thousand dollars a week to camp.. As the saying goes... Camping.. when you spend a small fortune to live like a homeless person.... lol I personally think that the price of firewood needs to come down to three dollars a bag. We pay taxes already for things like provincial parks... So why is camping almost as expensive now as renting a hotel or motel room? The pinery is literally my number one favorite place to camp.. not just for the amazing beaches(if the black flies are not out), but because of the cheap firewood I can buy down the road from the park.. As someone who has camped all over Ontario and other places.. I now plan my trips on whether or not there is a place to buy cheap firewood nearby the park. So if the parks really cared about whether or not campers "collect" dead wood nearby to burn.. they would reduce the price of their firewood significantly... But they know people collect wood to burn because of high firewood prices, and thus they don't care about the environment. So not burning dead wood around the site is something I don't agree with.. despite me agreeing with it in principal. For the price of booking a site, and.... buying firewood.. you might as well book a trip to Cuba or rent a cottage. And trust me when I say I follow the rules.. I have spent 50 bucks or more a night on buying firewood from parks to burn at night, and in the morning.. but it sucks and is the number one reason why Ontario Provincial Parks are money grabs.... They are amazing parks.. but they are getting far too expensive now.. The sites are expensive, but when you combine that with the price of firewood... it is ridiculous.. so if you see wood for sale cheaper on the road near your campground, buy it, and then when you pull in, tell the people in the office that you bought "cheaper" wood outside the park.. The problem is all the newbies who are there for a day or two a year..... and thus spending that kind of money on firewood is no big deal.. But for us people who camp from spring until fall.. the price of firewood is a deciding factor if that lifestyle can be lived anymore.....
Agree that the firewood is pricey for what you get. With the amount of camping we do, we rarely have a fire, but when we do, it's typically using, local to the park, purchased firewood
Another annoyance is when people wash their dishes at the water pump/tap. That is also a no no. Campers also need to secure their food and NOT feed the wildlife.
I loved camping at Mont Tremblant National Park.. they have little dishwashing sinks set up next to the comfort stations.... I think provincial parks should so something similar. Cleaning dishes is a pain in the butt, especially for tent campers.... People can scream all they want not to do dishes incorrectly at parks.. but knowing this is a problem.. the provincial parks should address this and have designated areas for people to do dishes... We have showers and toilettes.. hell even places for people to charge their electronic devices now... but they cannot make an effort to make some sinks next to the comfort stations to wash dishes(or inside comfort stations if bears are around). It is ridiculous.... I think provincial parks need to start making it a bit easier for campers to follow etiquettes... It is not that hard of a concept to put dishwashing stations or cabins in a park that already has running water for showers and toilettes? Am I wrong to think that in 2023.... Ontario provincial parks should have dishwashing areas... when for years, places like Mont Tremblant National park.. a place that does not even have paved roads to the sites.. can have dishwashing stations(in heavy bear country)??? So when newbies show up to camp, people who maybe camp one a year... or for the first time.. of course they are going to do dishes on their site, collect firewood to burn and etc.... The parks make it "easy" for them to do so. With firewood, the parks make it easy for them to do so because of the insane price they charge for small bags of firewood that will not last an hour or two. With dishwashing.. they make it easy with no convenient place for people to do dishes. At least with showers, there is no excuse to shower on site.. there are tons of showers and if you time it right, you can shower in a nice recently cleaned shower. But with dishwashing.. you just spent ten dollars on wood to burn to make coals to cook your food, your pan, grill, utensils are filthy.. you are tired.. it is getting dark, and have no good place to store the dirty dishes.... of course people are going to take short cuts to get those dishes clean and get the food smell off of them to prevent animals from showing up. And some vehicles are already packed up tight and have no places to put dirty dishes when people are too tired to clean them properly.. The price of firewood and no designated places to do dishes... my two biggest pet peeves about poor management of provincial parks.. If the provincial parks really cared about those two things.. they would make it easy for people to follow those etiquettes.
There must be many a-holes using Bon Echo walk-in sites because there are permanently visible walking path cutting through the sites. Through all sites. I have seen many a-hole lazy campers that didn't fully killed the camp fire before leaving. I remember once seeing little amount of smoking coming from fire pit (there shouldn't be any smoke), than as the wind started to blow... fire pit had fire again!!. Park patrols driving in "Ontario Parks" trucks saw that fire pit had smoke,,, ignored it at least 2 times... shows you how long it has been smoking. I went over with a bucket and used lake water to kill it off. Also, why the hell do people place plastic firewood mesh bag next to their site # post? WHY??? because some other lazy person did it? you follow? I just can't understand. Than again.... I work at a airport and I see so~~~~~~~ many lazy passengers around seating area by the gate, yet there are passengers that just leave garbage underder the seat of next to them... even when literally garbage bins are 2 steps away. Amazing how lazy people can be. I do hope park rangers will actively target those with drons making buzzing noise around campgrounds.
Yes unfortunately people are extremely lazy and have experienced many of the things you mentioned. We jokingly say that the people that put empty bags on the post are waiting for the wood ferry and a lot of parks use to pick them up, but not anymore. I also like the people that start a fire, sit there for 2 minutes and the go to bed right away, very dangerous
Had to drive to the gatehouse last summer to let the staff know someone had not put out their fire and there were a bunch of children (10 and under) unsupervised, tossing stuff in from the woods for fun. Warden sorted it out.
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One issue that drives me crazy! Firewood bags are not recyclable. They are garbage. Tired of seeing them draped over site posts. Throw them out. GREAT vids. I’m an experienced RVer/camper but there is always something to learn!
Yes, way back the park staff picked them up, however it's very rare now and people keep doing it waiting for the wood fairy to come and pick it up. I've seen post with at least 15 bags on/surrounding them
Great video! One thing we ran into is people declaring the water tap there's. We've seen people leave there soap, towels and etc at the tap. It's there for everyone. Not just you!
Ohh that's crazy, I've seen people wash dishes at the tab, but never declaring it theirs and leaving their stuff there!
Great upload and thumbnail bud. You presented this fantastically!
Thank you 😊
With the end of the camping season upon us, there are several things we observed this summer that were very annoying. 1....people who go camping, but are totally unprepared or ignorant of park rules.....don't have anything to store water in; wander around for a place to wash dishes because they didn’t bring anything to do dishes with; forget to bring an extension cord, even though they booked a hydro site and brought electric appliances; try and start a fire with lighter fluid because they didn't bring an ax; 2....Twinkle lights....everybody seems to have them but our neighbors at Emily PP had them on 24/7, including a Christmas tree. It was super annoying.....and the park people did nothing when they did their drive by. 3....people who don't put out fires properly. One of the reasons we camp is to enjoy fresh air. Fires that are not properly doused tend to smoke or could ignite again. We had 2 sites close to us make fires in the morning before leaving and then leave with fires still smoking in the fire pits. We reported it, but park staff did nothing. We ended up putting water on the fire ourselves. With all the forest fires this summer, this is not acceptable and park staff should be more responsive! 4....Excessive dog barking. Camping is a great way to vacation with a dog, but there are some people who have no control over their dogs who bark at everything and anyone all the time especially when they are left unattended at the campsite.
Yes very much agree with your observations
Park Etiquette number one..... . Provincial parks need to stop charging ten dollars a bag for crappy firewood that will burn for an hour or two tops... You use their wood to cook dinner on the fire, and then you have no wood left for a nice fire at night, unless you want to spend ten or twenty dollars for more, or even more if the wood is really bad... At the Pinery Provincial park, there is a nice camping store along the highway where you can purchase three bags of good wood for 6 bucks(you have to bag it yourself).. but the wood lasts forever and is worth it.. A provincial park site now is almost 50 dollars a night.... the wood is about ten bucks a bag and honestly... for people who like to sit by fires.. you need three of those bags a night... especially if you need to cook on coals.... The price of buying wood almost doubles the price of a campsite.. In contrast.. if you camp in PEI, the sites there are barely over ten dollars... so you can warrant paying for the wood(which is also cheaper there).
So my number one pet peeve about camping etiquette is how the Ontario Government is gouging people on not just the price of camping.. but on wood.. If the provincial parks want people to stop collecting wood to burn.. then they need to reduce the cost of their wood that they sell, or at least give people twice as much wood for the price.. It is ridiculous.. You can literally camp for free in Alberta and BC, but in Ontario, you might as well pay to stay in a motel for your camping... food, and firewood.. . Camping is supposed to be a cheap vacation.. but seven days campings... is about 45 a day, plus a minimum of ten dollars for a small bag of wood, and then food, then the gas to get there and back.. a person could easily spend a thousand dollars a week to camp.. As the saying goes... Camping.. when you spend a small fortune to live like a homeless person.... lol
I personally think that the price of firewood needs to come down to three dollars a bag. We pay taxes already for things like provincial parks... So why is camping almost as expensive now as renting a hotel or motel room? The pinery is literally my number one favorite place to camp.. not just for the amazing beaches(if the black flies are not out), but because of the cheap firewood I can buy down the road from the park.. As someone who has camped all over Ontario and other places.. I now plan my trips on whether or not there is a place to buy cheap firewood nearby the park. So if the parks really cared about whether or not campers "collect" dead wood nearby to burn.. they would reduce the price of their firewood significantly... But they know people collect wood to burn because of high firewood prices, and thus they don't care about the environment. So not burning dead wood around the site is something I don't agree with.. despite me agreeing with it in principal. For the price of booking a site, and.... buying firewood.. you might as well book a trip to Cuba or rent a cottage. And trust me when I say I follow the rules.. I have spent 50 bucks or more a night on buying firewood from parks to burn at night, and in the morning.. but it sucks and is the number one reason why Ontario Provincial Parks are money grabs.... They are amazing parks.. but they are getting far too expensive now.. The sites are expensive, but when you combine that with the price of firewood... it is ridiculous.. so if you see wood for sale cheaper on the road near your campground, buy it, and then when you pull in, tell the people in the office that you bought "cheaper" wood outside the park.. The problem is all the newbies who are there for a day or two a year..... and thus spending that kind of money on firewood is no big deal.. But for us people who camp from spring until fall.. the price of firewood is a deciding factor if that lifestyle can be lived anymore.....
Agree that the firewood is pricey for what you get. With the amount of camping we do, we rarely have a fire, but when we do, it's typically using, local to the park, purchased firewood
Another annoyance is when people wash their dishes at the water pump/tap. That is also a no no. Campers also need to secure their food and NOT feed the wildlife.
100%
I loved camping at Mont Tremblant National Park.. they have little dishwashing sinks set up next to the comfort stations.... I think provincial parks should so something similar. Cleaning dishes is a pain in the butt, especially for tent campers.... People can scream all they want not to do dishes incorrectly at parks.. but knowing this is a problem.. the provincial parks should address this and have designated areas for people to do dishes... We have showers and toilettes.. hell even places for people to charge their electronic devices now... but they cannot make an effort to make some sinks next to the comfort stations to wash dishes(or inside comfort stations if bears are around). It is ridiculous.... I think provincial parks need to start making it a bit easier for campers to follow etiquettes... It is not that hard of a concept to put dishwashing stations or cabins in a park that already has running water for showers and toilettes? Am I wrong to think that in 2023.... Ontario provincial parks should have dishwashing areas... when for years, places like Mont Tremblant National park.. a place that does not even have paved roads to the sites.. can have dishwashing stations(in heavy bear country)??? So when newbies show up to camp, people who maybe camp one a year... or for the first time.. of course they are going to do dishes on their site, collect firewood to burn and etc.... The parks make it "easy" for them to do so. With firewood, the parks make it easy for them to do so because of the insane price they charge for small bags of firewood that will not last an hour or two. With dishwashing.. they make it easy with no convenient place for people to do dishes. At least with showers, there is no excuse to shower on site.. there are tons of showers and if you time it right, you can shower in a nice recently cleaned shower. But with dishwashing.. you just spent ten dollars on wood to burn to make coals to cook your food, your pan, grill, utensils are filthy.. you are tired.. it is getting dark, and have no good place to store the dirty dishes.... of course people are going to take short cuts to get those dishes clean and get the food smell off of them to prevent animals from showing up. And some vehicles are already packed up tight and have no places to put dirty dishes when people are too tired to clean them properly..
The price of firewood and no designated places to do dishes... my two biggest pet peeves about poor management of provincial parks.. If the provincial parks really cared about those two things.. they would make it easy for people to follow those etiquettes.
There must be many a-holes using Bon Echo walk-in sites because there are permanently visible walking path cutting through the sites. Through all sites.
I have seen many a-hole lazy campers that didn't fully killed the camp fire before leaving. I remember once seeing little amount of smoking coming from fire pit (there shouldn't be any smoke), than as the wind started to blow... fire pit had fire again!!. Park patrols driving in "Ontario Parks" trucks saw that fire pit had smoke,,, ignored it at least 2 times... shows you how long it has been smoking. I went over with a bucket and used lake water to kill it off.
Also, why the hell do people place plastic firewood mesh bag next to their site # post? WHY??? because some other lazy person did it? you follow? I just can't understand. Than again.... I work at a airport and I see so~~~~~~~ many lazy passengers around seating area by the gate, yet there are passengers that just leave garbage underder the seat of next to them... even when literally garbage bins are 2 steps away. Amazing how lazy people can be.
I do hope park rangers will actively target those with drons making buzzing noise around campgrounds.
Yes unfortunately people are extremely lazy and have experienced many of the things you mentioned. We jokingly say that the people that put empty bags on the post are waiting for the wood ferry and a lot of parks use to pick them up, but not anymore. I also like the people that start a fire, sit there for 2 minutes and the go to bed right away, very dangerous
Had to drive to the gatehouse last summer to let the staff know someone had not put out their fire and there were a bunch of children (10 and under) unsupervised, tossing stuff in from the woods for fun. Warden sorted it out.