The Legacy of GoldenEye 007 | Design Dive
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2019
- Goldeneye 007 is one of the most cherished games of the 1990s, the third best-selling Nintendo 64 game of all time and paved the way for the FPS genre on consoles. But it's also one of the most influential games on modern game AI and in this episode I'm going to discuss why that is the case.
If you want to know how the GoldenEye AI actually works? Well I have another video dedicated to just that:
• The Secrets of GoldenE...
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Tracks from the Goldeneye OST Remake by Brandon Wiebe
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The way enemies respond to getting shot is still quite satisfying in this game. Wish some modern games would revive that idea
The ironic thing is that they are so satisfying because their reactions are exaggerated, almost cartoonish. Modern games use highly sophisticated procedural or physics based systems like Havok or Euphoria rather than GE007's simple canned animations, but because the effect of those systems has been tuned for more realistic effect they don't have the filmic punch of those canned but theatrical animations.
@@josephpotter5766 There's an interview with Christopher Lee where he's describing what it looks like when someone gets shot: a slight look of surprise and then they collapse. I wonder if canned animations actually do a better job of capturing that then a physics engine that throws rag dolls in the air. Even though they're exaggerated, they're more "realistic" than most physics based animations.
It's so hard to overstate how important this single title was to the entire landscape of video games from both a developer and a player perspective. Just such a classic. I'm so, so grateful I got to play it non-stop in its prime.
Yup. It's hard to explain to people what it was like to be a teenage boy in the mid 90s and experiencing how radically different video games suddenly became with Playstation and then Goldeneye taking the gameplay possibilities that far. It was a totally different way to experience a game that today is simply the way it's done, but back then nothing else like it had ever existed, at least for the home console.
I feel like it's amazing how little FPS games after it used the core ideas from Goldeneye. Having mission objectives encouraging you to replay levels over and over isn't very commonplace I can only think of Timesplitters which had a lot of the same developers.
"HA HA! I am invincible!"
wasn't that "Yessss! I'm invincible!" ?
@@yoshi314 it was 😂
Goldeneye 64 is still a masterpeice given how old it is
There are numerous games over the years that have shaped players perceptions of AI, but GoldenEye is one that had a subtle but indelible mark on the world. It's the game that got me thinking about game AI long before I started thinking about AI (and Games). Plus, as mentioned at the end of the episode, if you want to know how the AI of Goldeneye *actually works* check out episode 44 of the AI and Games show.
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P.S. It's amazingly dumb coincidence that I wound up releasing four videos on Sea of Thieves, followed by ANOTHER Rare game. It looks like I planned it, I definitely didn't.
Who doesn't like Rare games? Next time, do it on purpose. ;)
Tommy Thompson, arguably the best name ever
His middle name is Thomas
Despite being a five year old when I was playing this at a friends place. The local multiplayer was just a total blast.
As a kid, I thought the AK47 was a pencil, the white pistol was an eraser, the SMG was a sharpener, the sniper rifle was a water bottle and the rocket launcher was a thermos.
8:07 that always amused me. The AI rolling MUST complete the roll before doing the next action... In that case, dying.
Mentioning both Life-Force Tenka and VirtuaCop.
Aaaah...!
This mix the first time I've seen more then 2 seconds of this game at once and I'm actually kind of blown away by how good it looks
Blast Corps man. That was my jam when I was 10.
As much as I love Goldeneye I feel like Perfect Dark on N64 was just so much better in almost every way. From much better weapon variety, secondary functions on weapons (some of which completely changed how the weapon handled), actual reload animations, and the combat simulator actually having AI players so you could just jump into a game without needing friends. I still think it was dang near perfect for the time it came out and yet the game is so rarely discussed. Goldeneye almost always steals the attention and that always bothers me to no end.
Good memories. Your analysis is spot on in my opinion. It was very influential. You have good patrons. Keep listening to them.
Aye they're a good bunch.
Design Dive is such a great series.
Love your videos! I've watched so many of them that your voice has replaced my internal monologue when I read anything now. I'd love to hear more non-AI related games analysis from you. I think your channel name, although it undoubtedly helped your channel grow, has boxed you in a bit!
To be fair that's kinda how Design Dive came about, as I wanted to give myself a bit more breathing space. Though I still keep it very much in the realms of AI, because that's kinda how I think. But, I am working on new DD episodes that aren't really about AI. I'd like to do more games without AI, but also more on AI without games (keep flirting with the idea of AI in cinema). Who knows what the future will bring!
@@AIandGames how does AI work in movies?
Any chance of doing analysis of the Creature AI in Black and White? Teaching the Creature in that game was always interesting, especially how you could wind up with different creature behaviors between playthroughs.
Needed to pause the video to shout out how amazing Halo is. Halo is incredible.
Should look up soberdrawfs goldeneye video. he explains the development history of the experience. quite an incredible story.
*Goldeneye 007 (N64) - The Game that Changed the "Doom Clone" - Design Documentary*
Akemi Homura Thanks for this. Looks like a good channel.
YAYY GOLDENEYE!
If any classic 007 flix could be made into FPS games as good as Goldeneye, I’d say they’d be YOLT, TSWLM, Mooonraker, The Living Daylights and License to kill.
Then Goldeneye-like shooters are subtype of FPS that has unfortunately died out.
It was the original and only type and simply died out due to the popularity of the Counterstrike style games. Fast and responsive vs slow and methodical. The recent Doom remake did a good job updating this with modern systems. I think there's room for both styles going forward.
DuelScreen I think the Goldeneye- like shooters died out due to the more casual FPS fans gravitating towards Call of Duty from 2005 onwards. Additionally, the 007 games during the PS3/360 weren’t that successful. Perfect Dark Zero was the last popular Goldeneye-like shooter that I can think off, it had decent sales and remained popular on Xbox Live for about a year. Timesplitters : Future Perfect which released the same year, was arguably a much better Goldeneye-like shooter than PDZ. However,Timesplitters: Future Perfect didn’t do so well sales wise.
Online Multiplayer definitely had a hand in killing off Goldeneye type FPS’s. Back when single player was still the primary way to enjoy games, console FPS’s were way more story and mission based. Lots of PS1, N64, GameCube, and Ps2 FPS’s were like this.
And of course, as the 360 and PS3 rolled out, and as the ever growing online PC community grew, single player focused FPS’s died a painful death.
Just found you channel. Excellent stuff. Where in Scotland are you from pal
I tend to say Glasgow, I'm really from Renfrewshire, but nobody knows where that is anyway!
The AI in Goldeneye is better than the new Hitman...but that’s perhaps the worst bar to set for a developer.
AI and Games: "[Goldeneye] left behind a legacy in the design of its AI characters and systems that has set the standard for many-a-shooters to this day."
Goldeneye's AI: *throws grenade while in small room with player*
Rare designed my squad in Rainbow 6 Siege.
@ 8:30 Scully, is that you?
Ppl bitch about early 3D games only due to it "low gfx quality". But these games push the industry so forward that these games still are gems.
4:45 You are kind of incorrect in regards to Turok and Turok 2. You can perform stealth kills in those games using the bow (which are sounds the AI does not hear). Enemies also have a detection radius that you could also sneak around using the crouch button in Turok 2 (or the "walk" button in the original Turok 1 for the N64).
Doom 64 IS amazing
Do the Doom 64 video... DO THE DOOM 64 VIDEO also maybe take a look at Turok.
What emulator are you using for these stunning hi-res recordings?
It definitely does not look like that on the 64
Probably PJ64.
Hard to get a hold of because Nintendo doesn't want anyone to play their games.
It looks like the modded "1964" emulator that makes GoldenEye and Perfect Dark run at 60 FPS and have optional mouse and keyboard control support.
can you do a video of the emulator you used too?
You should talk about the multiplayer and how it was a game changer that was for consoles....yes ai is not involved.
How are you playing this with such high res? Emulation seems top notch even though this game is notorious for glitches and framedrops. Although even the original had horrid framerate (single digits on fregatte)
Goldeneye emulation is really good, you can play it with a mouse and all.
@@jesusstaccato8448 which emu?
I love goldeneye alot still the best game in the world at least to me I'm actually getting ready to play GoldenEye right now off of my Nintendo 64 this stuff makes so much of my childhood
What emulator are you using to run the game?
It's a modified version of the 1964 emulator (GEPD edition), with the GLideN64 video plugin.
@@AIandGames I had a feeling you were using GlideN64. Not many people use that plugin.
@@mintmag8748 I use that plugin. It's really good.
Alright, I'm happy.
That's one down!
Could someone please point me to the video with "Mario 64 and the fish thing"? I can't seem to find it.
As much as I kinda liked Call of Duty: Ghosts, they deserved to get a hard time for this.
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This game is epic. Also, I'm the best ever at it. It got to the point where I knew the spawns on each level and the order you appeared in them. If you played me using proximity mines you would just spawn and blow up. I'll play any three people on any settings and, "You vill lose".
To quote General Ouromov:
"You can't win."
Why can't they bring Goldeneye back out thereby releasing it on the Nintendo D'S as it was made and keep the buttons the same.
You would have to bring 3 companies together legally. Goldeneye is never gonna be re-released
There was a GoldenEye released for the DS.
@@Dash120z that wasn't the official Goldeneye 007 game. No shooter game for Nintendo will ever beat Goldeneye 007 release on the Nintendo 64 in 1997
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TTD: Time to DOOM
An interesting video, thanks. Goldeneye doesn't seem to get the credit for invention that it deserves; when people talk about innovative first person shooters, they mention Doom, Quake, Half-Life, etc, but rarely Goldeneye. Duke Nukem 64 is another game that rarely gets the credit for it's (at that time) new and experimental features.
Even today, Goldeneye is my second ever favourite game, after the superb Perfect Dark. To me, nothing else has even approached them, other than Timesplitters 2 and Timesplitters: Future Perfect (not Timesplitters 1, though that was an OK game, but the lack of a real single player campaign, and it's 'too simple' feel didn't endear me to the game).
I love Duke Nukem, but what exactly was new and experimental in Duke Nukem 64? It was just a quality (but censored) port of Duke Nukem 3D?
I dont think any other game showcased an npc being shot in the ass as he bled and jumped up and down holding his ass cheeks
What about AI in World is not enough?
Okay, the escort AI may have been new and revolutionary. But it was horrible by any standard. She ALWAYS ran into EVERYONE's line of fire. I get angry just thinking about it.
Also, and this is completely unrelated (and I probably said this before): I never tire of a Scot saying "Doom".
The escort ai is actually pretty good, she's immune to enemy bullets and can only be shot by you in most stages, only in jungle and control do enemies damage her, it's akin to adjusting your aim to not hit ashley in RE4.
I think they did a good job. Once you learn the AI and patrols she's not too bad. I can't say that for some modern games. I have far worse memories of Elvis from Perfect Dark which came out after this for example.
@@ZapWires True enough, but isn't the idea of a good AI that I don't have to adjust my aim? Mostly at least. Obviously it won't smooth out all my errors, but I prefer it when the AI just focuses on always standing behind me, instead of trying to be smart about it.
Then again, I haven't played it in 15 years, maybe I only remember when it screwed up. It was a good game over all.
It was frustrating to me at first but I later learned to have trigger discipline in bunker 2 and It got way better.
This is the remastered version not the original N64 as I’ve noticed it’s more than 15 frames a second
There is no remastered version of Goldeneye. Rare were working on one for the XBox 360, but for legal reasons it was sadly abandoned. Presumably Goldeneye in this video was played on an emulator, probably the one available from
www.shootersforever.com/forums_message_boards/viewtopic.php?t=7045
which gives up to 60 frames per second, and automatically remaps the controls to use the WASD keys and the mouse, as in PC first person shooters.
Goldeneye on the N64 does drop to 15 FPS or less at times, but it also runs higher, depending on what's on screen at the time (full screen explosions especially can hammer the frame-rate). This was the time where true 3D was emerging, so the games of that era, be they on the N64, Playstation, or PC (via the Voodoo 3Dfx cards, etc), had frame-rates that were often in the teens and very rarely even got close to 30 fps. At the time, we (the players) rarely noticed it unless it got really bad, as it was all we were used to, and even today many of the games are still fully playable if you take the time to get used to the low frame-rate and low resolution.
But, I'd imagine, someone only used to playing modern PC first person shooters at more than 60 fps would probably assume, if they then tried an N64 and Goldeneye, that there was something wrong with the console. In the same way that nowadays many children probably don't realise that there was a time when televisions could only show black and white.
crazy how Bethesdas Starfield managed to have worse AI then Goldeneye 64...
i love consauls!
3:00 Is...is that a poster of Karl Marx?
Certainly looks like it. I've never noticed that before, thanks for pointing it out.
I've hardly ever played goldeneye but the AI doesn't look particularly bright in this video. ok, maybe it was better than doom or quake, but maybe the fact they featured monster opponents play in their favor, as it's less shocking if they do something stupid.
uhh...
Quake release date was June 22, 1996.
Several Amiga FPS games were kicking around before that even.
Quake was the first for "mainstream" PC gaming.
Maybe you said Doom by mistake?
*I should be more clear. Doom did not allow you to look around. Was really a platformer or fancy asteroid. Mouse look changed immersion. Defining what was a PC FPS game.*
What are these "Consawls" you keep referring to?
Lol goldeneye ran at like 15 fps what are you talking about