$16 Wheels vs $2,600 Wheels | CASH vs TRASH
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Do you need to spend up big cash on wheels, or can you use trash? In this new series, we'll get both, then get an expert to decide. Along the way, one car will modified with loads of cash, and the other one will be modified with parts found from dumpster diving, recyclers, second hand parts or the cheapest parts we can find.
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Hey MCM Gang. We're making our own mods by dumpster diving for this new series on the Peugeot, while the Swift will get legit JDM parts before they go head to head in a Cash vs Trash final battle. We hope you enjoy it!
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How did you decide who went trash & who went cash, just curious ?
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Haven’t herd from Cheryl lately?
I have a set of old new stock Koni shock absorbers for a 206,if you organise the shipping you can have them,or trade for a Cheryl’s box lol
I like this but once its all over I would also like to see what happens if the cars are switched. Of course that would involve buying two sets of mods each - so probably a no go on financial grounds - but it might give a better idea if it was the money or the chassis' adapting to mods giving the edge.
Its funny you say that the Swift gets JDM race part.. here in Europe the Swift is something your granny drives, and the Peugeot 206 is the one where you can get everything from rally to race parts, a little bit like a Civic but more rally
OEM+ is always a good starting point for a cheap wheel upgrade. If there are higher trim levels of your car that have better factory wheels, you can sometimes pick them up cheap through online marketplaces or even at the junkyard.
This. On my mitsubishi (legnum) i put EVO 8 enkei wheels because the fitment is perfect, found them for a great price and they are a quality cast. On my Talon I put Stealth wheels because again, fitment is perfect and price was amazing.
I don't find it reasonable to spend thousands on brand new wheels and tires. I always buy 2nd hand because it's what I can afford and it's better for the environment. Keep recycling, one man's trash is another man's treasure!
Certainly. Sometimes, you can also get wheels that are a huge upgrade from another model from the same make. Example: my 2005 Subaru Outback XT has 17" wheels from a 2013 Subaru BRZ. They fit perfectly and are a great upgrade for the car. Better Tire options and OEM impact resistance help greatly.
Definitely good when looking at Holden wheels. There are so many great factory options. I have VT GTS wheels on my VT Executive.
Can’t wait for the next episode where they discover the wonderful world of Peugeot torsion bars
We will discover how to not go anywhere near them and send the Peugbro hard into turn 1
@@mightycarmods lmao
Slide hammer? Check. Fire? Check. BF hammer? Check. Knuckle rash, frustration and despair? Check. Driving down the road with unequal height rears due to not marking the splines? Check. Ahh the fun of torsion bars in pugs...so much joy happiness and strong sense of inner wellbeing.
@@richbrown5852 I wonder if they punish the motorsport mechanics with them too 😂😂
@@richbrown5852 sounds just like an old valiant. lol.
They are heavy, but I personally like the look of the rims that Marty ended up with. That sort of Lancia Delta rally type rim.
Yeah those are actually rota recce wheels, and I have a set of white ones for my fiesta st, I had a double take moment when they showed them 😂
I thought that about the delta looking wheels, compomotive? I bet they're a nightmare to get all the brake dust out of, good shout getting them in black
I got very confused when I read your comment halfway trough the video...
Was hoping the expert would also rate them
@@Kingcake57 If you bought them new, did you get them close to $250? Their website says they're $310 now.
Been waiting for you guys to do hi/low, can't wait for this series with them being cars a lot can afford 👌
Except that it's all low because it's in Australia 🦘🌏 😹
@@TheG60528XiJinPing actually, it's upsidedown here so its low\hi
Yeah I thought High/Low as well But I like this spin better. Even if your gonna spend it does not need to be expensive(High)
This has the potential to be the best series yet!
Irony, I get it!
No disespect to the MCM boys...but...... it deffinitely worked when donut media did it......multiple times....to the point it became a regular series for them.
So long as it doesn't have some boring expert come in and talk dribble for most of each episode
@@FPVsean bAcKpReSsUrE
There is a huge selection of 4x108 now. Not as much as 4x100 but really anything worth getting comes in it now.
Here in france, 4x108 is common af, plenty of aftermarket wheels (and oem) on the second hand market.
4x100 tho, pretty rare on the second hand market if you want aftermarket (you could use oem renault, but those are generally hideous, with the exception of the clio 16s ones)
I think some later pugs came with 5x110, so the hubs may be interchangeable? though I think the only real way to polish a turd is with a constant stream of liquid nitrogen and a lot of skill...whether its worth the expense and effort is a whole different kettle of frogs
Man I'm struggling, got a Saab 900 Aero 4x108. Fucking pain trying to get some nice looking mesh wheels for it, ended up buying some BBS knock offs but it was such a headache
I love that this new MCM style is clearly not scripted and still sooooooo informative. Super duper work guys
Lol if you reckon this is unscripted you need to get your eyes/ears checked
Absolutely glad you gents are drawing a line at safety. Those pot-metal rims Marty found could turn a car into a death-trap on the track all by themselves, even if everything else was good.
Yay an actually watchable hi low series. Congrats MCM on making your version of the series. Looking forward to it.
Imagine if Marty gets to spend all of the money he saved before the final battle on one mod...
like a wildcard type thing. i like it. keep it secret right till the end. yep
A 206 gti lol
@@georgeoliver8300 A Renault Megan RS lol
Nitrous kit lol, 150 shot
Set of ps5s and proper springs
12.01 "I'm gunna be hard to beat off........the line". Classic Marty comment. Love it!! 🤣👍
This is going to be a great series. I like the idea of bringing in a specialist to deep dive on the difference between approaches, rather than just putting them on and forgetting about them. Great concept - more please. Cheers.
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So MCM take on Hi/Low series from Donut?! Cannot wait! You guys rock!
Thought the exact same thing
US vs AU challenger in the future. Both channels have good content. Love to see them work together in a competition.
Makes me wish we get a cross over eventually.
Would rather a JDM vs EURO like Humblemechanic/gearsand gasoline instead of Donuts hi/lo..
@@darianistead2239 I like that but I think by working with Donut it would just be giving respect to what they already accomplished.
12:01 "hard to beat off...., the line."
Lmfao
I love weds wheels, they look awesome, but the set Marty's ended up with look absolutely sick
4x108 was used on the Ford Contour/Mondeo and Ford Focus. I bought a Contour that the previous owner had put BBS wheels on. Sold the wheels for more than I paid for the car. :D
Love to see you doing new stuff lads, keep doing this for as long as you can, I'll be watching for as long as you do. I'd love if you did another trip to Europe sometime, I'd definitely use it as an excuse for a road trip to see you in person. 👍
Me too!
Funny to hear that 4*108 is rare in australia, here in france i had trouble to find cheap 4*100 for my ae82, but there's lots of 108 in the second hand market x)
Marty’s quote “i’m going to be hard to beat off……………the line”
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The Peugeot is already perfect and fast so it doesn't need expensive parts 😂 But that swift is going to need a lot to compete against the Peugbro 🏎️
Can't wait for the followups. The high car, low car over at Donut media was pretty entertaining.
12:01 hard to beat off… the line 🤣 well played… well… played…
I was hoping they'd upgrade their respective vehicles by sticking to the same overall budget (including the purchase price of the vehicle).
the 206 would absolutely dominate with the starting price difference put into performance parts. I would have loved to see it, but I guess they didn't go that way.
Stock take-off's from some of the higher end/trim models of vehicles is an excellent way to beat the system! You get well made alloy wheels for dirt cheap as alot of people with the fancy cars go aftermarket.
"Don't cheap out on stuff that connects you to the ground, grandson. Buy good shoes, chairs, mattresses and tires" Love you gramps!
You guys rock. Been watching for quite a few years now and just this week am about to pull the trigger on some APEX sm-10’s for my Mk6 GTI. This video was perfect timing.
Love this concept 🤩
Find it funny that the 4x108 pattern is uncommon in Australia, here in Scandinavia there is a overflow of lightweight racing wheels with 4x108 stud patters. And I know this since my Ford Mundane ST200 is 4x108.
Keep up the awesome show!
It is the same story as the replacement / custom parts for the peugeot. Uncommon in Australia, quite common in Europe. You see the same here for japanese performance cars though. Everything here seems to be German cars.
Damn, this series will be like the track car series that Donut Media made. Cheap vs. expensive mods.
A nice format indeed, and I am curious to see how the cars turn out in the end 😁😁
30 seconds in and I can already tell I'm going to enjoy this series. 👏
back to your roots, cheap nuggets, cheap stuff. this is the kind of stuff that made you guys what you are today, and seeing that you never lost the passion for nuggety cars simply makes me happy. you guys are the reason I wasnt ashamed to show up at meets with a cheap toyota echo (vitz outside america) on reps with sticky tires ,and I enjoyed those moment shared with other enthusiast. Now, I bought brand new, a 2023 mitsubishi mirage, one of the last subcompact in america to be sold with a manual, and growing up watching you made me realise, I dont need a 300hp car to enjoy doing roadtrips, and its not too stupid to throw my money at a good set of tires for my nuggets, since I'll enjoy those moment spent running backroads even if my car as ridiculous body roll.
thanks for all thoses years, inspiring us to do stupid stuff.
Tires are a huge game changer and I think using the same one is a good call. I would love to see the difference on both cars lap times from the excellent Michelins and a more budget option
considering the wildly different stock wheels i wonder if not the track times would close in allot simply because of the added corner traction
Can't wait to see Marty's surprise when he sees how a 206's rear suspension works. Fully independent trailing arms and yet you can't run coilovers since it uses torsion bars. Or more likely, he mistakes it for a torsion beam like a Yaris.
Hopefully since this is a shorter episode, we'll get more frequent uploads!
I definitely agree with the comments on the wheels. Quality is king. I had a set of Volk SE37K's, two got bent due to unavoidable road damage & other than some discoloration to the bronze finish the repairs were perfectly executed, unfortunately it also costs allot of money to repair Forged wheels.
As a professional performance parts advisor, I'm genuinely happy to see this.
Glad you're not an amateur performance parts advisor, thanks for sharing
“Hard to beat off…the line” 😂👍👊
Im part of the Swift community in Singapore and I've had 2 of those ZC31s before. It's interesting to see your track builds going for really expensive 17" TC105s, as most (if not all) track build ZC31s' here in Asia are running on 15" or maximum 16" wheels. The most notorious ones here in Singapore run 15" wheels so it'll be interesting to see how your build turns out! I used to run 17s and 16s on mine and I've got to say I preferred my 16s. Maybe if you had a 15" wheelset lying around, it might be interesting to compare them!
I agree, on such a light and relatively low powered car saving unsprung/rotating mass on the wheels can give significant benefits.
Pretty sure UK spec ZC31S have 17s as standard.
I tend to agree. It's somewhat looks vs performance here as well as tyre choice. I think you can't get pilot sports in less than a 17", so that is prob a factor if they are sponsoring. I put 13" rims on my mini back in the day and it looked spectacular, but compared to a lightweight 10" minilite, the handling (and gearboxes!) suffered.
@@richardallen1629 If you specifically want Pilot Sports then you are stuck with 17s, but there are high performance road legal tyres available in 15" and 16" (higher performance than Pilot Sports, at least in dry conditions).
Looking forward to the results .. real world on the peugrot for a lot of people new to cars on a budget 👍
Ever since donut did this, I've wanted you guys to make a better version. You did not disappoint, thank you!
So a better version of donut media hi low... I love it 💜💜💜
These comparison vids are great...and the results are always interesting.
This gave me super early on MCM vibes! Loved it! Very excited for this series.
Stoked to see where this series goes. Looks like a blast.
Wow, a new season of Hi/Low already. Sweeeet!
I would have thought a bit "outside the box" with the wheels , I would have looked for a hub with the same stud pattern as the swift for the Purjo , then made them fit with a bearing resize or a bit of machining to suit if needed . That would make for a cheaper swap over even with a bit of machining paid for with a set of second hand wheels because of the availability of that stud pattern using second hand hubs 😉. It would be even better if you have the skills and tooling to machine the parts yourself or have a good friend that can do it for mates rates as I do .
When you have to send out parts for machining, things quickly become uncheap. The hubs would need to match the CV splines and have the correct offset, and then you'd need to redrill the disks and drums to match.
I used factory enki mags from a later model sport spec Honda on my Jazz, from 185 x 15 to 205 x 16 and added A003 tyres. Keeping factory, is cheap, 4 wheels with half worn tyres $ 200-00 on Gumtree. No curb rash, no chips or scratches. And same car later model no issues with fit at all. All up wheels and tyres $1065. As the boys say, big difference.
An unexpected direction for the series, but a welcome one
I LOVE that you're using the same tires on both cars
Kinda like hi-lo from donut
Lovely, can't wait to see where this goes
This series is going to be awesome!!!
This episode brings me back to the old cable car shows I used to watch, meaning I feel like I just watched a long commercial.
It would have been really interesting to see the expert compare the WEDS to the rep wheels
Really enjoying this fun and educational. I like the third party guys coming in giving us their opinions. I think we need a whiteboard put somewhere and th lads should have teacher hats and pointers😂
It's a shame they seem to be throwing the 206 under the bus, it's definitely the less popular car but it's a bit of an underdog, would like to see a Peugeot win back some bit of cred. Hope they don't just end up scrapping it or something at the end of this series.
I hope they do. Having had to work on several of these piles of merde they have few redeeming features.
I'm on/off with watching MCM but I will not miss a video on this series!
So basically @donutmedia hi car lowcar?.....
except mcm didn't have to sell out to do it. 👌
@@preysidius190 eeeh maybe not their entire brand but we do see catastrophes like the E30 once in a while.
Bloody still gettin ya moneys worth outta that In The Bin clip. Love it.
Feel like I have to say that the issue with Marty's wheel cracking is nothing whatsoever to do with it being made of recycled metal, it's about the ductility of the metal (how far it will deform before fracturing). Those cheap (and old wheels) would have been cast and cooled very quickly, which results in larger crystalline structure of the metal and as a result, lower ductility.
I loved that pause, it's gonna be hard to beat me off...the line.
Brilliant series thank you guys
“…hard to beat me off….the line” 😂😂😂
"Hard to beat off...the line"🤣
Aww I would've been awesome if the cash went on the Peugeot 😂 Awesome series guys, keep it!
For a budget track car I d go with big steelies. They are cheap, repairable and oftentimes lighter than stock alloy wheels. And with a lick of paint they usually look okay
"Out of the bin!"
Gonna be hard to beat off.
The line 😂
Mark from Barrel bros is a legend. They refurbished my 18 inch ss vy wheels even though that's not there scene.
Lmao "I'm gonna be hard to beat off.. *pause*... the line"
BEST SERIES YET !!!!!!
No joke! Why am I so excited about this series?!?
A little high car low car action!
Citroen C5 "steelies" is where it's at for the Peugeot. 15", 4x108, dirt cheap cuz look like steel wheels, but actually aluminium alloy and crazy light, lighter than Ultraleggeras and other expensive ones.
Nice to see you moding a Peugeot using the same parts bin as they do in the factory. Keeping the purity
Another well made episode beginning a series that's going to be great. Disappointed though to watch an episode about wheels and tyres but at no point are we shown each vehicle once installed.
Love the concept of this series.
Bit Suss there Marty 😉 “Hard to beat off… the line” 😂
Yeah I completely loved the show and I completely love the idea of it altogether
4x108 with an offset of 27 (Peugeot 206 specific) or more is of course found on a lot of Peugeot and Citroën cars and also Opel Crossland X (2007 - ), Saab 900 (1988 - 1993), Saab 9000 (1985 - 1998) and Volvo 850 (1991 - 1993)
@@sys-administrator those won't fit unless you machine the center hole.
The Mk6 (Gen V) Fiesta ST uses the Pug wheel pattern 4 x 108. Pug wheels have a much wider offset from my research into getting some for my ford. Be interested to see how you get on and how well they sit in the well. Watching keenly!
I've got the TC105X on my Evo Wagon. Lovely wheel, great choice.
Oh I'm fired up for this series!!
when you throw €3000 into the 206... it starts to be fun. b12 suspension, harder stabilizers... finished head (catcam) and modified intake and exhaust system... it costs way under €3000. this tu5jp is a very good engine
Looking forward to this series!!
Marty's wheels are the ROTA Recce 4x108 R17, you can also find them as MAK NTT
its actually a fake Rota Fighter wheel with a ford badge, actual Rotas have actual quality
@@GTChucker86 keep watching the video and you'll understand.
@@bearded_bastard oh right I thought you meant the garbage wheel, my bad 😔
@@GTChucker86 no worries ✌🏻
A great budget way to upgrade peugeots rimswise is to use rims from a bigger model like a 306 or 406
back to the roots. i love it!
Heres my vote for a junkyard turbo setup on the Peugot!
This is fantastic. Your special sauce makes this entertaining as always, and the comparison is excellent.
Hell yeah, Australian HiLow!
U guys been bloody awesome letting time fly by since being in hospital
Hard to beat off… the line 😂
This is goijg to be an awesome series! I agree that wheels and tires are something to spend money on. When i got new wheels for my 2020 Civic, I got a set of Motegi Racing MR131 Traklite wheels wrapped in BFGoodrich GForce Comp 2 A/S+. I got cheaper tires because they had better tread wear that something nice and high end like PS4s or something. Plus, the BFGs are $185USD vs $300+ for PS4s. Those Motegi's did save some weight! Stock size, but 11lbs(4.9kg) lighter per corner. Definitely feels better than stock!
TC105N (and X) are one of the best wheels ever made. I love my TC105N’s on my DC5. They really suit the car.
"I'm going to be hard to beat off...the line" 😂😅
"Lawn Furniture and cocaine' -love it! Hahaha
I guess they found out after the fact that aftermarket support for the 206 in Australia sucks. Hence this series.
Its fun though
Great opportunity to explain exactly why cheap crap is just a waste of money when it comes to cars. "Do it right, do it once." ✌