A 4 second gain?! Better than I expected, but it's a goes to show how much you can improve with a good driver and the right set-up. It's always great to see the Catfish getting love Jeremiah, I got a '97 myself, more Camaro content!
I’m glad that B2B has basically become the successor to Science Garage, I still love learning about some of the more complex dynamics of a car that can be difficult to learn on your own.
@@purwantiallan5089 They're everywhere on TH-cam -- once a channel hits some threshold of viewership, they really pound the comments... Having a lot of early (Notification Squad-type) comments also is the key for the bots -- notice that they only reply to other's comments, not post new comments of their own. The bot accounts are subscribed to all of the big channels, and when they get notified of a new video, the bots scan the comments and auto reply to everything they find. Perhaps a way to combat them is to upload with comments disabled for some period of time, then open up for comments after the bots have been triggered. But that would have to be done manually, as I don't think TH-cam gives creators the tools to automate that.
Whilst I do wish Science Garage had a successor, I wish they'd just rename this B2B as Science Garage (so same content, just use the old name)... Then bring back the original B2B aswell with James (reviewing specific cars, like that ME E30 with the engine swap)... With that in mind, they'd have to lose a series aswell, which for me, would be D-List, as no matter how many times I try to watch it, I just can't
Forgot where I heard it from, but I remember an experienced tuner say that if you're gonna mod out your car for performance, always start from the outside going in. As in the progress line should be wheels and tires, then brakes, then suspension, then intake, then exhaust, then finally the engine. It kinda annoys me so many wannabe racers always do it the other way around
Yeah I definitely agree. Engine upgrades are great, but if the rest of your car isn’t built to deal with the extra power and transfer it to the road then it’s pointless.
Miatas would come to the local autocross events and literally change their tires to autocross tires and beat the crap outta corvettes, supras, 300zs, m3s. It is not always about power. Great video Jerry!
@@stevemisfit1 when did i even mention that? Donut is a youtube channel and wants interesting videos that people watch and to make the video interesting they pay for things to put into the video, not the car itself most likeley since its Jeremiah's camaro but what i was saying with my comment was that Jeremiah probably asked donut if they could do a show with his camaro and that results in some nice mods to his camaro, yes there is a possibility that Jeremiah is paying for the things aswell.
Better tires won a lot of drag races for me on the weekends in Highschool, even against kids with "modified" cars. Nothing was high powered so getting off the line and not spinning was king! The most expensive and impactful modification I ever did to my first real car ended up being the tires. P.S. Don't street race kids, we were idiots back then, you are smarter than us!
@@triston2735 you think roll racing hasn't been around for years??? And btw spinning should still be an issue (granted not as bad) if you're even kinda fast. My stock truck will break loose at speed with only 400hp and 500fpt
My friends always wondered why I always took a podium position in Forza whenever we used to play all the time, even though I had a "slower" car. It took them too long to learn that power means nothing without proper grip. I always buy the tire and suspension upgrades before adding power so I know I dont have to worry about losing traction. This is also why once I get my RX7 running again, I'm focusing on the suspension and tires first before slapping a turbo on, even though everyone I talk to want me to turbo it asap lmao
I assume you're talking about Forza Motorsport... in Horizon, tires increase the PI number by so much, you're usually better off just jacking up power. (Of course, in Horizon, everything has insane lateral grip anyway...)
𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙚𝙭 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙫𝙚 PERFECTBODYGIRLSS.WEBSITE 👈 tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
I’d love to see a donut series where someone from the team travels the US testing race tracks, let us know which ones are good, where they are, how much they cost, what safety requirements we need to know. Could be a solid show and encourage more of us to get more seat time.
𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙚𝙭 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙫𝙚 PERFECTBODYGIRLSS.WEBSITE 👈 tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
Best mod I have ever done in all my (many) years of modding - tires. Tracking a car for years without proper tires was not only wrong but it taught me to learn new ways to drive. When I finally ponied up for a set of RE-71's my car was 100 percent a different machine. I had to re-learn the car so much so that it became too fast. Funny to say that but it was too fast for autocross. Tires should have been first and brakes second.
𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙚𝙭 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙫𝙚 PERFECTBODYGIRLSS.WEBSITE 👈 tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
But don't you think that the experience of having shitty tires was valuable? I like the idea of going out with a crappy set of tires to learn the attitude of the car not to set the quickest time. Then when you switch to better tires you can be way more confident around that limit.
@@julianpenton1675 Totally valuable lessons learned, you are correct. I did teach myself to drive very aggressively and on the limit with the wrong tires. I memorized the car and could drive it hard. But, those track tires immediately stepped up my game and made the car drive to limits I never knew it could. Like we are talking almost scary limits. But she would take it.
A motorcycle tire episode would also be pretty awesome. Tire shapes on motorcycles have a huge, huge impact. Lots of content there to go over. As always, love the videos. Thank you donut.
This is neat. I come from an offroad background- mostly crawling- and a funny thing about that is if you have too wide of a tire, you can actually lose grip over rocks. You get less pressure per square inch which obviously affects how a rig handles. To me it's neat to see this play out in the track world
Kind of similar to tank tread design, cool! Tanks have to have a specific ground pressure over their footprint which can't be too thin (or they'll sink) or too wide (or they won't bite into the terrain)
to make your car faster, I've been taught that what you need to upgrade is, in order : 1/ tires 2/ brakes 3/ suspension 4/ weight & stiffness (rollcage and all) 5/ aero if possible or necessary 6/ power I actually never got to the "power" part of any car I owned XD
𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙚𝙭 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙫𝙚 PERFECTBODYGIRLSS.WEBSITE 👈 tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
The icing on the cake is an engine with stock power lasts for fricken ever. As soon as I stopped chasing big power on my fun car and went back to a stock engine, I started having way more fun. You know, because it ran.
well if you add a smoothing + 100 hp to your 200 hp you will feel the change in picking up on cars or top speed in the highway , grip brakes ect works better in racing roads , but in the highway and some rolling race i will go always with more power
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@@Svendrys Ok I forgot: 1/ racing stripes and stickers! xD
Like your choice of cars, been tracking mine for 30 years now, it has developed to be one of the fastest cars at the track, anywhere we unload, nearly 300 thousand miles on it now, mostly track miles, looks and drives better than new, I chose Wilwood also.
If you dorks have been waiting a long time for this video your life is utterly pathetic. This is a children's automotive channel you understand this right? To save you people time im here to make fun thats it I get my automotive fix with adult channels.
@@springwoodslasher79 so like you just came here to insult people for no reason at all? Man that’s super cool and definitely feels like the vibe Donut gives off!
I bought a car with a staggered wheel setup, whereby the fronts are narrower than what could fit in the wheel wells due to increased offset. After watching, I am convinced that ditching the staggered setup is the right way to go. The fronts would be further out, but narrower while the rear would be nearly maxed out. Thanks for the insights on contact patch and pressure. Lucked out by buying a second square set of used forged wheels by accident.
Just bought my first car yesterday. A 1985 c4 Corvette inspired by donut media. It took me all year, but I've finally reached my goal to have the perfect first car
The LACK of information in the automotive world about tires is downright scary. Not many know what date codes are or what they mean. Not many know that all season tires suck ass in all 4 seasons. Not many know that all weather tires exist. Not many know that the recommended pressure lives on a sticker in the car and not printed on the tire. Not many know that two different brand 275/40R17 tires are actually different sizes. Some brands run larger than others for the same given size. And not many know that cars have 8 springs, and only 4 of them are damped. The tires are the other 4 springs. And pressure and construction affects the rate of those air springs.
Tires are damped internally, the effect of the belts cased in the carcass. go to a 4 post rig, adjust the Static pressures and watch the effects change the performance index.
I feel that this is one of the most valuable information ever shared on yt. So much it should be top secret. But I figured most people already know it just never been explained in this much depth. Just the fact that DM broke it down in the simplest explanation is just one of the main reason I love your channel. I will forever be grateful.
𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙚𝙭 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙫𝙚 PERFECTBODYGIRLSS.WEBSITE 👈 tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
When i first saw Jer-Ber in the earlier videos, I wasn't all that sure how much i was enjoying the presentation. I have to tell the gang at Donut though, Jeremiah has become my favourite presenter. Knowledgeable and fun presentations, not afraid to poke some fun at himself, and making all the nerdstuff fun to learn. Keep it up Donut! And a tip-o-the hat for Jer-Ber, I'll leave a mint on Mom's endtable for his next visit...
I have a Kawasaki 250 Ninja that’s a perfect example of that. We put K&N filters, a full exhaust and a Dynojet kit on it. It was good. It definitely woke up the motor. We put decent tires on it and sent the suspension to Lindemann Engineering. All of a sudden it was one of the best riding bikes I’d ever felt.
𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙚𝙭 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙫𝙚 PERFECTBODYGIRLSS.WEBSITE 👈 tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
My first two cars were V8 4th gen F-bodies back in 2000/2001 (Z28 then SS), so seeing that old girl out on the track really tugs at my nostalgic heart strings
I love how instead of being the guy who says oh let’s slap a blower to make more power jerry instead goes for suspension and more intricate parts of the car to make it faster
It’s the perfect time to upload this video, i am literally looking to upgrade my wheels and i needed somebody to basically tell me “what are you waiting for”
not too much air is already almost 80% nitrogen also heard that dealerships/other shops don’t even use their nitrogen machines to fill tires even when you pay for it
@Jaren Bea Yeah I remember part of Nissan GTR development and press was on the benefits of them using nitrogen over air for temp stability at high speed
I recently put a set of tires on my 2000 Camaro. went from 11 year old junk on the stock 245/50r16s up to a 275/40r17 like the video. Even with a smaller sidewall and wider tread the ride quality is way better, and I have so much more grip. Very worth while upgrade, and a lot more peace of mind since they are new :)
I was racing with my friends on gt4, and one guy kept losing, even after he bought the best turbos, so I basically said to him; Upgrade on this order: Transmission, suspension, tires, aero then turbo. He got a lot better, but still lost hahaha
Your video came up on my recommendations and I found it to be a great refresher. The information given was very clear and concise. I swapped from a top-end all season tire (Conti DWS) to top-end summer tire (Michelin 4S) made my daily driving much more enjoyable. There was no more wheel slips when kicking down. I got winter tires a few years ago and it felt the same both terms of driving stability and safety as well.
The owners manual of my 944 had front and rear tire pressures for summer, winter and racing. Of couse I had to try them all and that's what got me into racing. Trying out tire pressures.
@@Stormtrooper-oc4vn A proper balance is high power with high performance tires. Also fairly beefed up suspension to take the abuse. Not like how most TH-camrs are like "let's add all the HP don't mess with anything else"
A good point to also mention lowering tire pressure helps with the tire expanding during heat up . When I use to race I would start the race at 25 psi when I came back into the pits I would see up to 40 to 50 psi in the front right #circletrack
I had a stock '84 RX7 GSL (nimble AF already). I found a set of killer rims which I got purely because they looked well, killer! They were almost 5lbs lighter than the stock rims and the difference was immediately noticeable. GOD I miss that car.... GREAT VID AGAIN!
The first time i experienced the shock of the grip of low-profile tires was with my first Audi Quattro. As standard it came with 15" wheels and 195/65/15 tires. Of course couple of months in and me being 22, i decided to get 18". The only tires i could fit w/o rubbing were 245/25/18 (you always want 235/30/18) but even with the worse option it was incredible how much more pronounce the surface feedback was and the amount of grip you have. Of course it didn't take long to find the negative side of the low-profile tires - just the very next day hit a pothole and had to replace both the tire and the wheel. But ever since them i always go for 245/35/18 as a default choice on my cars - comfy and grippy. Of course now i always make sure beforehand that the car can fit them :)
𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙚𝙭 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙫𝙚 PERFECTBODYGIRLSS.WEBSITE 👈 tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
You probably won't see this Jeremiah, but because of your catfish it put me on the hunt, I finally got my 95 catfish with the LT1! I'm super excited and I'm slowly fixing its quirks!
You mentioned increased tire width, decreased wheel weight, and improved the rubber compound. Don't forget the reduced sidewall profile also improved your track performance.
This truly supplements my automotive class knowledge in high school at my technical high school with a lot of rowdy but funny classmates, significantly- thanks Donut Friends. God bless.
Love this series. One thing that would have been interesting would have been first running a “performance summer” tire at the stock size, before switching to the Falkens. Then you’d have a comparison to a proper track tire vs a road tire (comparison for a first time track day), and then a track tire vs the optimal size of track tire and high end wheel.
You guys should get some sort of government educator kickback/subsidy. It always blows my mind how this little car channel is not only wildly entertaining but legitimately informative to boot. Bill Nye probably hella proud of y'all
Changing my Mustang to summer tires from the OEM "eco" tires was indeed a massive improvement in every way. If you can't transfer the power and handling to the road, it's all just numbers. I can't weight ( bad pun) to swap my OEM 33lb chonky rims for something in the 19-20lb range. That's almost 150lbs equivalent in unsprung weight off of the car, which is huge.
Hi there Donut. Its thanks to you that ive become sooo interested in cars, racing and just plain having fun with driving cars. Everything i learned about cars has mostly come from watching your videos. You guys are such great teachers, keep it up.....With much love from CPT, SOUTH AFRICA keep doing your thing Donut
Good tires do wonders for icy/snow conditions as well. Southeast got hit with a huge storm last weekend and I was able to make it from WV to NC in a RWD only Tacoma with the LSD turned on and a set of knobby all terrain tires. I saw several lifted 4x4 with huge rims and thin "performance" tires sliding all over the highway.
Reminds me how so many people think that AWD on it's own is a viable alternative to snow tires in harsh winter conditions. It doesn't matter what kind of power the car can put down or to where, if the tires can't even grab the road
I'm way too poor to even think about having a car to run laps with, but these videos still help me with tuning in Forza because suddenly a lot of tweaks and such make sense now.
Reminds me when I spent a week on tire pressures. At 32 PSI, it pushed. At 36, is over rotated. At 34 PSI, it was a great balance. No change in anything but tire pressure.
The tire compound secret thing is real. I work at Toyo. And I work in the tire building area. And the Mixing area is where the compounds come together. And we're not allowed to know any of the compound info unless we switch departments.
My old auto tech teacher who's now retired said it best. First upgrade to your car if you really care about performance is tires. You go faster, you stop faster, and you turn faster. Nothing else out there does it all like that
You have to be careful with how you interpret the information, they were on a taller tire so the car was traveling faster. A taller tire means a greater diameter meaning for one revolution of the wheel, it's traveling farther. If you put a taller tire on your car and don't adjust the speedometer you're actually going to be traveling faster than what your gauge says. Still all the information they presented is great information comparing how size ,pressure and compound can affect performance
@@nodo7575 A taller and heavier wheel can slow you down but In the video the newer 18" wheels were lighter than the stock 17". I'm saying that one can technically use a taller-lighter wheel, taller tire, similar side wall width, and technically be traveling faster than stock. In the video he went from 275/40/17(25.7" tire) to 295/30/18(25" tire). But i initially misread the numbers and thought it said 295/35/18(26.1" tire). So his tire was 2/3 of an inch less than stock. So this his gains are more impressive since he would be traveling "slower" than what his speedometer read. That's why they were using gps to track speed.
In the ecoboost mustang comunity it is well know that a Ecoboost mustang with bolt ons and better tires can beat a stock mustang GT at the drag strip. Great episode learned alot mostly about camber being important!
measuring lateral Gs at a set speed is a good way to measure cornering grip. tells you right about where the line is between grip and slip, and the bigger the amount of lateral Gs you can pull while cornering while maintaining a constant line will give you an idea of how hard you can push before you lose traction and understeer
i read an article in project car magazine YEARS ago where they got an EG hatch and just did tires, brakes and springs and got 13 seconds off the lap time
I'm an engineering freak and I found this very interesting (how one thing leads to the next and to the next ...until it leads back into the beginning). But it puts some light into the best approach into making performance mods in your car. 1. Start getting as light as possible, 2. Follow with the suspension setup you actually need for the intended purpose. 3. Get a good set of wheels and tyres (think about next point in this stage) 4. Get better brakes please! 5. Now you start making more power, boost and all that. This way you start improoving your power to weight ratio and possibly your aerodynamic drag if you change bumpers and other key areas. Then you proceed with making the vehicle suitable for the task and allowing its structure to mold better to the ground Then you get the first hp gains, get significant grip gains and remove some unnecesary weight from a critical point (even better power to weight ratio). You continue making your car safer and faster by allowing it to brake later, having more time up to speed and more distance of high speed (so less time and distance wasted in braking). Now, you spice things up by finally touching that powerplant. You improve your power to weight ratio again, but now from the traditional point of view, you improve your throttle response, you squeeze more torque out of that little engine and hopefully think about future expenses that will come with an engine that has a shorter lifespan (but more power baby). Once you are done, you will have the best performing vehicle your car can be (or your wallet can afford).
This upload would make Car and Driver alumni writers and editors from the '70s through the '90s proud -- something called "empirical data" -- not just impressions clogging up TH-cam automotive media. Six million-plus subs, congrats. Try to steer away (no pun intended) from the frantic, teenager/juvenile-style editing and really focus on quality content. Donut Media has the opportunity to become a truly credible resource on many automotive subjects.
Man. I wish you taught my engineering physics classes when I went through university haha. You make this so much more interesting than my professor ever did.
𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙚𝙭 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙫𝙚 PERFECTBODYGIRLSS.WEBSITE 👈 tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
surprisingly you can learn a lot playing forza horizon 5. this was one of the first things i learned after downloading the game. you upgrade your tires and your vehicle and go from a D to an S1 vehicle just from a grip improvement.
Running a 120 HP Lotus Elise on track against 911t, F40and other fast cars. Careful suspension setup and scrubbed Toyos with my temp/pressure charts - they could only get me on long straits before the braking zone but not overtake. Same with my 90hp Lotus Europa. 135/75/14 front and 185/7014 crappy Firestone rated at 200kg per corner. That's wobbly tires on a 2200lb car and smooth on a1100lb Lotus. One up.. MT on a tricked out sus of 450hp Cobra AC. AR shocks, swaybars carefully located, dedion carefully setup allowed low pressure all around. Rims were light nascar steelies and that meant biiig rear tires without diverging too much from the front wheel frequency. Smooth, fast
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A 4 second gain?! Better than I expected, but it's a goes to show how much you can improve with a good driver and the right set-up. It's always great to see the Catfish getting love Jeremiah, I got a '97 myself, more Camaro content!
I have a 94 z28 with 295/35r18's on all 4 corners, love the amount of grip it has!
Camaro SS w an LS1??? Yes please
I’d love it if they get an SN95 Cobra too :)
97?🤢 LT1? 🤮
Gotta love TH-cam... Remove dislikes but allow all the bots.
I’m glad that B2B has basically become the successor to Science Garage, I still love learning about some of the more complex dynamics of a car that can be difficult to learn on your own.
Why Donut Media has tons of bots lately?
@@purwantiallan5089 youtube
@@purwantiallan5089 They're everywhere on TH-cam -- once a channel hits some threshold of viewership, they really pound the comments... Having a lot of early (Notification Squad-type) comments also is the key for the bots -- notice that they only reply to other's comments, not post new comments of their own. The bot accounts are subscribed to all of the big channels, and when they get notified of a new video, the bots scan the comments and auto reply to everything they find. Perhaps a way to combat them is to upload with comments disabled for some period of time, then open up for comments after the bots have been triggered. But that would have to be done manually, as I don't think TH-cam gives creators the tools to automate that.
Whilst I do wish Science Garage had a successor, I wish they'd just rename this B2B as Science Garage (so same content, just use the old name)... Then bring back the original B2B aswell with James (reviewing specific cars, like that ME E30 with the engine swap)... With that in mind, they'd have to lose a series aswell, which for me, would be D-List, as no matter how many times I try to watch it, I just can't
@@AndrewAMartin If I ever found a bot on my channel,imma block it,or just straight up disable comments
Forgot where I heard it from, but I remember an experienced tuner say that if you're gonna mod out your car for performance, always start from the outside going in. As in the progress line should be wheels and tires, then brakes, then suspension, then intake, then exhaust, then finally the engine.
It kinda annoys me so many wannabe racers always do it the other way around
Yeah I definitely agree. Engine upgrades are great, but if the rest of your car isn’t built to deal with the extra power and transfer it to the road then it’s pointless.
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With drag you can kinda ignore brakes, because when you're going fast enough to need better brakes you get a chute too.
Oh, where do you race?
@@boostgoober7262 wannabe racer spotted
Miatas would come to the local autocross events and literally change their tires to autocross tires and beat the crap outta corvettes, supras, 300zs, m3s. It is not always about power. Great video Jerry!
Autocross? Yeah, they wouldn't need much tire - I think weight is the real factor here.
@Reactionary Hermit - agreed, but go-karts can beat a bugatti in autocross
I did the same in my Honda eg hatch porch 911 gt3,vipers,bmw all wondering what’s under the hood and pissed when they see a stock sohc 1.5l lol
Dude basically made donut buy his upgrades, respect
@@stevemisfit1 agreed, but Luja sure does!🤣🤣🤣
@@stevemisfit1 when did i even mention that? Donut is a youtube channel and wants interesting videos that people watch and to make the video interesting they pay for things to put into the video, not the car itself most likeley since its Jeremiah's camaro but what i was saying with my comment was that Jeremiah probably asked donut if they could do a show with his camaro and that results in some nice mods to his camaro, yes there is a possibility that Jeremiah is paying for the things aswell.
Your 1st Donut video?
@@rideredRC51 as Nolan has stated of why he won't do a video with his old car, if he does the result of the car becomes property of Donut.
@@stevemisfit1 And you actually took that comment seriously. lol
Better tires won a lot of drag races for me on the weekends in Highschool, even against kids with "modified" cars. Nothing was high powered so getting off the line and not spinning was king! The most expensive and impactful modification I ever did to my first real car ended up being the tires.
P.S.
Don't street race kids, we were idiots back then, you are smarter than us!
Not if they eat tide pods.
And need warning labels not to drink battery fluid.
We do rolls now so we don’t have to worry about spinning lmao
Too late 😎
@@triston2735 you think roll racing hasn't been around for years??? And btw spinning should still be an issue (granted not as bad) if you're even kinda fast. My stock truck will break loose at speed with only 400hp and 500fpt
Kids now day all they know is uber and lyft. They dont want to drive
My friends always wondered why I always took a podium position in Forza whenever we used to play all the time, even though I had a "slower" car. It took them too long to learn that power means nothing without proper grip. I always buy the tire and suspension upgrades before adding power so I know I dont have to worry about losing traction.
This is also why once I get my RX7 running again, I'm focusing on the suspension and tires first before slapping a turbo on, even though everyone I talk to want me to turbo it asap lmao
Plus, don't you have to mess with car's computer to integrate a turbo?
I assume you're talking about Forza Motorsport... in Horizon, tires increase the PI number by so much, you're usually better off just jacking up power. (Of course, in Horizon, everything has insane lateral grip anyway...)
@@jlco no he’s probably talking about horizon
@@sufferr2914 it sounds like he's talking about motorsport
@@jlco the upgrade system in the entire Forza series is also much deeper than Gran Turismo dude.
So many people ask what's the easiest to go faster, I always say tires, it's amazing how much faster you can be when not using long longs
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tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
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@@pikamenja2321 how many fucking domains does this scamsite own??
What are "long longs"?
@@DarkMan2555 sorry I meant ling longs, super cheap budget tires
@@ampedex Ah, ok
Proper upgrade steps:
1. Suspension
2. Wheels and Tires
3. Chassis stiffening (bushings, strut bars, etc.)
4. Weight reduction
5. Intake and exhaust
6. Engine inductio
7. Engine internals and cooling
Awesome episode!
I’d love to see a donut series where someone from the team travels the US testing race tracks, let us know which ones are good, where they are, how much they cost, what safety requirements we need to know. Could be a solid show and encourage more of us to get more seat time.
I 2nd this
We are doing tire now in my high school mechanics class. This is perfect timing!
𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙚𝙭 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙫𝙚 PERFECTBODYGIRLSS.WEBSITE 👈
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
That's some quite good timing indeed, send the video to your teacher (?
(Also, plz, report those h03s websites.)
How many kids does it take to do a tire?
Best mod I have ever done in all my (many) years of modding - tires. Tracking a car for years without proper tires was not only wrong but it taught me to learn new ways to drive. When I finally ponied up for a set of RE-71's my car was 100 percent a different machine. I had to re-learn the car so much so that it became too fast. Funny to say that but it was too fast for autocross. Tires should have been first and brakes second.
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tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
But don't you think that the experience of having shitty tires was valuable? I like the idea of going out with a crappy set of tires to learn the attitude of the car not to set the quickest time. Then when you switch to better tires you can be way more confident around that limit.
@@julianpenton1675 Totally valuable lessons learned, you are correct. I did teach myself to drive very aggressively and on the limit with the wrong tires.
I memorized the car and could drive it hard.
But, those track tires immediately stepped up my game and made the car drive to limits I never knew it could. Like we are talking almost scary limits. But she would take it.
Seriously the most entertaining automotive channel!
I have Falken Azenis RT660's on my car and the difference between these and standard street tires is astounding
That’s awsome to hear you like them i have a set of 4 waiting to go on my car after I get it out of storage
@Damar Fadlan hello
@@jarb688 they're amazing. They're so grippy, they're confidence inspiring and only my second set of track tires
How do they compare to the 615ks?
Key word Falken. Lol I would hope they are better than standard or you need money back lol
A motorcycle tire episode would also be pretty awesome. Tire shapes on motorcycles have a huge, huge impact. Lots of content there to go over. As always, love the videos. Thank you donut.
Bias vs radial
Multi compound tires
Even do a darkside comparison
motorcycles stinky
This is neat. I come from an offroad background- mostly crawling- and a funny thing about that is if you have too wide of a tire, you can actually lose grip over rocks. You get less pressure per square inch which obviously affects how a rig handles. To me it's neat to see this play out in the track world
Kind of similar to tank tread design, cool! Tanks have to have a specific ground pressure over their footprint which can't be too thin (or they'll sink) or too wide (or they won't bite into the terrain)
The power of physics, babeh!
to make your car faster, I've been taught that what you need to upgrade is, in order :
1/ tires
2/ brakes
3/ suspension
4/ weight & stiffness (rollcage and all)
5/ aero if possible or necessary
6/ power
I actually never got to the "power" part of any car I owned XD
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tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
The icing on the cake is an engine with stock power lasts for fricken ever. As soon as I stopped chasing big power on my fun car and went back to a stock engine, I started having way more fun. You know, because it ran.
7/ racing stripes
well if you add a smoothing + 100 hp to your 200 hp you will feel the change in picking up on cars or top speed in the highway , grip brakes ect works better in racing roads , but in the highway and some rolling race i will go always with more power
@@Svendrys Ok I forgot: 1/ racing stripes and stickers! xD
Like your choice of cars, been tracking mine for 30 years now, it has developed to be one of the fastest cars at the track, anywhere we unload, nearly 300 thousand miles on it now, mostly track miles, looks and drives better than new, I chose Wilwood also.
Been wondering when this episode was coming, definitely an interesting subject matter.
Wtf is going on with this accs spamming, btw, yeah, been waiting a loooong time for this vid.
@@FDemeis report every one you see.
If you dorks have been waiting a long time for this video your life is utterly pathetic. This is a children's automotive channel you understand this right? To save you people time im here to make fun thats it I get my automotive fix with adult channels.
@@springwoodslasher79 so like you just came here to insult people for no reason at all? Man that’s super cool and definitely feels like the vibe Donut gives off!
@@springwoodslasher79why are you watching this then????
You’ve probably never boogered a tire or seen a cold tear in your life.
I love seeing the actual field data and getting to see you guys out actually having fun with your vehicles!
I bought a car with a staggered wheel setup, whereby the fronts are narrower than what could fit in the wheel wells due to increased offset. After watching, I am convinced that ditching the staggered setup is the right way to go. The fronts would be further out, but narrower while the rear would be nearly maxed out. Thanks for the insights on contact patch and pressure. Lucked out by buying a second square set of used forged wheels by accident.
This episode is absolutely fantastic for anyone wanting to get into lapping, but more importantly such a fun watch. THANKS for making it!
Just bought my first car yesterday. A 1985 c4 Corvette inspired by donut media. It took me all year, but I've finally reached my goal to have the perfect first car
Swag phantom froces
Good choice cause TH-cam might have just went on a C4 wave with adam lz and rich rebuilds and the rest
Congrats man. Time to hop on some forums and get modding lol
Perfect? Glad you think so lol
@Max Power stfu let this man enjoy his car
Only Forza Gamers understand: From *B700 Class* to *A724 Class* 😂
Always tryna put the better tires 😭
@@novathepug6692 better tires and driveshaft.
*not PI efficient* 😂
*horizon
The LACK of information in the automotive world about tires is downright scary. Not many know what date codes are or what they mean. Not many know that all season tires suck ass in all 4 seasons. Not many know that all weather tires exist. Not many know that the recommended pressure lives on a sticker in the car and not printed on the tire. Not many know that two different brand 275/40R17 tires are actually different sizes. Some brands run larger than others for the same given size. And not many know that cars have 8 springs, and only 4 of them are damped. The tires are the other 4 springs. And pressure and construction affects the rate of those air springs.
Thanks for the fact on difference size per brand
Tires are damped internally, the effect of the belts cased in the carcass. go to a 4 post rig, adjust the Static pressures and watch the effects change the performance index.
My driver’s Ed teacher tought us this but I doubt anyone but me remembered.
Bro you find that scary I find the lack of knowing how to use a turn signal much scarier lol. But nah I totally agree lol
Is info on the actual size of tyres available from manufacturers?
I feel that this is one of the most valuable information ever shared on yt. So much it should be top secret. But I figured most people already know it just never been explained in this much depth. Just the fact that DM broke it down in the simplest explanation is just one of the main reason I love your channel. I will forever be grateful.
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tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
When i first saw Jer-Ber in the earlier videos, I wasn't all that sure how much i was enjoying the presentation. I have to tell the gang at Donut though, Jeremiah has become my favourite presenter. Knowledgeable and fun presentations, not afraid to poke some fun at himself, and making all the nerdstuff fun to learn. Keep it up Donut! And a tip-o-the hat for Jer-Ber, I'll leave a mint on Mom's endtable for his next visit...
Use this car for more videos by far the coolest car you guys use. Sincerely, a biased firebird ls1 owner.
Can't wait to see where you end up on this series. Would love to see the science of what is too much horsepower. Beginner's guide to streetability.
Too much horsepower? No such thing lol! Seriously though, there really isn't if you can put it to the ground, weight, tires, etc.
That's so true. We all seen builds on YT when car makes insane power but it can't put it down because of tyres
With more power comes the need of more traction. Funny how most high HP builders don't get that through their heads first and foremost
Good tires and good brakes is the best combination for great lap time.
bald tires=drag slicks
7:35 Man that RackaRacka clip brings back fond memories.
Yes for sure do more stuff on motorsport. I would love to see a series about track days or autocross
I have a Kawasaki 250 Ninja that’s a perfect example of that. We put K&N filters, a full exhaust and a Dynojet kit on it. It was good. It definitely woke up the motor. We put decent tires on it and sent the suspension to Lindemann Engineering. All of a sudden it was one of the best riding bikes I’d ever felt.
Remember driving with too low tyre pressure can destroy the bead wall on the wheel.
𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙚𝙭 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙫𝙚 PERFECTBODYGIRLSS.WEBSITE 👈
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
My first two cars were V8 4th gen F-bodies back in 2000/2001 (Z28 then SS), so seeing that old girl out on the track really tugs at my nostalgic heart strings
Gotta get another!
I love how instead of being the guy who says oh let’s slap a blower to make more power jerry instead goes for suspension and more intricate parts of the car to make it faster
I hope they make an episode on the driver mod
It’s the perfect time to upload this video, i am literally looking to upgrade my wheels and i needed somebody to basically tell me “what are you waiting for”
Great video can we get one on the difference between filling a tire with air vs nitrogen
not too much air is already almost 80% nitrogen also heard that dealerships/other shops don’t even use their nitrogen machines to fill tires even when you pay for it
@Jaren Bea Yeah I remember part of Nissan GTR development and press was on the benefits of them using nitrogen over air for temp stability at high speed
Learning WITH entertainment is the absolute best!!
Your mom jokes are legendary, seamless transition as always. 8/10
I recently put a set of tires on my 2000 Camaro. went from 11 year old junk on the stock 245/50r16s up to a 275/40r17 like the video. Even with a smaller sidewall and wider tread the ride quality is way better, and I have so much more grip. Very worth while upgrade, and a lot more peace of mind since they are new :)
I went from nexen to nittos big difference in grip
I was racing with my friends on gt4, and one guy kept losing, even after he bought the best turbos, so I basically said to him;
Upgrade on this order: Transmission, suspension, tires, aero then turbo.
He got a lot better, but still lost hahaha
Your video came up on my recommendations and I found it to be a great refresher. The information given was very clear and concise. I swapped from a top-end all season tire (Conti DWS) to top-end summer tire (Michelin 4S) made my daily driving much more enjoyable. There was no more wheel slips when kicking down. I got winter tires a few years ago and it felt the same both terms of driving stability and safety as well.
I love your videos keep up the good work ❤️
The owners manual of my 944 had front and rear tire pressures for summer, winter and racing. Of couse I had to try them all and that's what got me into racing. Trying out tire pressures.
It's funny when people add power, bigger brakes and upgrade their suspension, but then put the cheapest tires on their car. Sounds counterproductive.
Lol a lot of TH-camrs did this lol
@@Stormtrooper-oc4vn A proper balance is high power with high performance tires. Also fairly beefed up suspension to take the abuse. Not like how most TH-camrs are like "let's add all the HP don't mess with anything else"
A good point to also mention lowering tire pressure helps with the tire expanding during heat up . When I use to race I would start the race at 25 psi when I came back into the pits I would see up to 40 to 50 psi in the front right #circletrack
FK510 is among the heaviest tires on the market in its category. Imagine the difference with a kg less / wheel with a different UHP tire.
I had a stock '84 RX7 GSL (nimble AF already). I found a set of killer rims which I got purely because they looked well, killer! They were almost 5lbs lighter than the stock rims and the difference was immediately noticeable. GOD I miss that car.... GREAT VID AGAIN!
Wheels and tires are BY FAR the best mod you can do to your car hands down
Idk a turbo LS mod is pretty sic
@@brianking9215 disagree
@@pancake5830 ok
Agree
The first time i experienced the shock of the grip of low-profile tires was with my first Audi Quattro. As standard it came with 15" wheels and 195/65/15 tires. Of course couple of months in and me being 22, i decided to get 18". The only tires i could fit w/o rubbing were 245/25/18 (you always want 235/30/18) but even with the worse option it was incredible how much more pronounce the surface feedback was and the amount of grip you have. Of course it didn't take long to find the negative side of the low-profile tires - just the very next day hit a pothole and had to replace both the tire and the wheel. But ever since them i always go for 245/35/18 as a default choice on my cars - comfy and grippy. Of course now i always make sure beforehand that the car can fit them :)
Next- Why massive steel balls are slowing you down!
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tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
You probably won't see this Jeremiah, but because of your catfish it put me on the hunt, I finally got my 95 catfish with the LT1! I'm super excited and I'm slowly fixing its quirks!
Crazy how they got Tony Hawk to interview in this episode
What a difference a better set can make
Day 152 of asking Donut media to do either a Up To Speed or a Wheel house on the oil crisis
Yea a weelhouse. Nolan does a great job with these kinda things
I somebody already has it's called school and google
You mentioned increased tire width, decreased wheel weight, and improved the rubber compound. Don't forget the reduced sidewall profile also improved your track performance.
hopefully there is a limit to that, I dont want to have to get 22s with a rubber band of a tire for max performance
So uh, anyone gonna talk about how that Pontiac went faster around buttonwillow than the money pit miata?
Miatas ain’t anything special with their engine man, engine swap it and maybe you’ll start seeing some great lap times.
This needs to be addressed. 100%
Neither car went around buttonwillow. This is streets of Willow in the video and the money pit Miata did Big Willow
@@RassoolRacing ahhh that makes more sense. I was extremely confused why a Pontiac was outpacing it by that much.
This truly supplements my automotive class knowledge in high school at my technical high school with a lot of rowdy but funny classmates, significantly- thanks Donut Friends.
God bless.
Day 256 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back
Ah yes. TH-cam doesn't have a bot problem.
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@@FragTix ee
Love this series. One thing that would have been interesting would have been first running a “performance summer” tire at the stock size, before switching to the Falkens. Then you’d have a comparison to a proper track tire vs a road tire (comparison for a first time track day), and then a track tire vs the optimal size of track tire and high end wheel.
Without a doubt Jeremiah is the best presenter on this channel. Don't @ me
You guys should get some sort of government educator kickback/subsidy. It always blows my mind how this little car channel is not only wildly entertaining but legitimately informative to boot. Bill Nye probably hella proud of y'all
Changing my Mustang to summer tires from the OEM "eco" tires was indeed a massive improvement in every way. If you can't transfer the power and handling to the road, it's all just numbers. I can't weight ( bad pun) to swap my OEM 33lb chonky rims for something in the 19-20lb range. That's almost 150lbs equivalent in unsprung weight off of the car, which is huge.
i took the stock wheels off my Y61 and saved 6kg a corner. the difference was absolutely extraordinary - the first and still best mod.
Hi there Donut. Its thanks to you that ive become sooo interested in cars, racing and just plain having fun with driving cars. Everything i learned about cars has mostly come from watching your videos. You guys are such great teachers, keep it up.....With much love from CPT, SOUTH AFRICA keep doing your thing Donut
The progression on the quality and effects in the newer videos are awesome. Can’t wait to see the future for these guys👍
Good tires do wonders for icy/snow conditions as well. Southeast got hit with a huge storm last weekend and I was able to make it from WV to NC in a RWD only Tacoma with the LSD turned on and a set of knobby all terrain tires. I saw several lifted 4x4 with huge rims and thin "performance" tires sliding all over the highway.
Reminds me how so many people think that AWD on it's own is a viable alternative to snow tires in harsh winter conditions. It doesn't matter what kind of power the car can put down or to where, if the tires can't even grab the road
Can't believe you made this video just as I am planning my next wheel/tire set up
Definitely will keep this video saved so I can do my research when I start on my falcon
Jeremiah has quickly become my favorite on here he cracks me up
I'm way too poor to even think about having a car to run laps with, but these videos still help me with tuning in Forza because suddenly a lot of tweaks and such make sense now.
"Entertainment plus learning..." You guys are hitting the Mythbusters formula here. Pretty much the best thing ever.
It's ridiculous how good this video is!
Reminds me when I spent a week on tire pressures. At 32 PSI, it pushed. At 36, is over rotated. At 34 PSI, it was a great balance. No change in anything but tire pressure.
The tire compound secret thing is real. I work at Toyo. And I work in the tire building area. And the Mixing area is where the compounds come together. And we're not allowed to know any of the compound info unless we switch departments.
My favorite Donut videos by far. Love this channel
Wow, I knew there would be a measurable difference but 4 seconds!? That's amazing
My old auto tech teacher who's now retired said it best. First upgrade to your car if you really care about performance is tires. You go faster, you stop faster, and you turn faster. Nothing else out there does it all like that
Weight reduction accomplishes all of that also.
I’m really a firm believer in working from the ground up to go faster. Tires to rims to brakes to suspension. Makes a world of difference
Wow, 4 seconds/lap is a lot more than I expected. Goes to show why everyone always recommends wheels+tires as the best improvement you can make.
You have to be careful with how you interpret the information, they were on a taller tire so the car was traveling faster. A taller tire means a greater diameter meaning for one revolution of the wheel, it's traveling farther. If you put a taller tire on your car and don't adjust the speedometer you're actually going to be traveling faster than what your gauge says.
Still all the information they presented is great information comparing how size ,pressure and compound can affect performance
@@fattygamer94 That was the least impoertant part of time gain. Hell larger wheels make you accelerate and decelerate slower.
@@nodo7575 A taller and heavier wheel can slow you down but In the video the newer 18" wheels were lighter than the stock 17".
I'm saying that one can technically use a taller-lighter wheel, taller tire, similar side wall width, and technically be traveling faster than stock.
In the video he went from 275/40/17(25.7" tire) to 295/30/18(25" tire). But i initially misread the numbers and thought it said 295/35/18(26.1" tire). So his tire was 2/3 of an inch less than stock. So this his gains are more impressive since he would be traveling "slower" than what his speedometer read. That's why they were using gps to track speed.
I didnt know the compound might be different from year to year. Sick!!
I once got myself r888r’s and I couldnt even get it to do a burnout. Now it was only a 100hp. BUT the grip difference was insane
In the ecoboost mustang comunity it is well know that a Ecoboost mustang with bolt ons and better tires can beat a stock mustang GT at the drag strip. Great episode learned alot mostly about camber being important!
Jeremiah rapidly become the most entertaining donut host, at the same time as being the most informative. Great work my friend
measuring lateral Gs at a set speed is a good way to measure cornering grip. tells you right about where the line is between grip and slip, and the bigger the amount of lateral Gs you can pull while cornering while maintaining a constant line will give you an idea of how hard you can push before you lose traction and understeer
i read an article in project car magazine YEARS ago where they got an EG hatch and just did tires, brakes and springs and got 13 seconds off the lap time
More Azenis FK 510 content! I bought my tires because of Aaron and G&G, so let's add Donut to that list for when I get a second set!
I'm an engineering freak and I found this very interesting (how one thing leads to the next and to the next ...until it leads back into the beginning).
But it puts some light into the best approach into making performance mods in your car.
1. Start getting as light as possible,
2. Follow with the suspension setup you actually need for the intended purpose.
3. Get a good set of wheels and tyres (think about next point in this stage)
4. Get better brakes please!
5. Now you start making more power, boost and all that.
This way you start improoving your power to weight ratio and possibly your aerodynamic drag if you change bumpers and other key areas. Then you proceed with making the vehicle suitable for the task and allowing its structure to mold better to the ground
Then you get the first hp gains, get significant grip gains and remove some unnecesary weight from a critical point (even better power to weight ratio).
You continue making your car safer and faster by allowing it to brake later, having more time up to speed and more distance of high speed (so less time and distance wasted in braking).
Now, you spice things up by finally touching that powerplant. You improve your power to weight ratio again, but now from the traditional point of view, you improve your throttle response, you squeeze more torque out of that little engine and hopefully think about future expenses that will come with an engine that has a shorter lifespan (but more power baby).
Once you are done, you will have the best performing vehicle your car can be (or your wallet can afford).
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This upload would make Car and Driver alumni writers and editors from the '70s through the '90s proud -- something called "empirical data" -- not just impressions clogging up TH-cam automotive media. Six million-plus subs, congrats. Try to steer away (no pun intended) from the frantic, teenager/juvenile-style editing and really focus on quality content. Donut Media has the opportunity to become a truly credible resource on many automotive subjects.
Man. I wish you taught my engineering physics classes when I went through university haha. You make this so much more interesting than my professor ever did.
Love these episodes. That weight really matters on cars like miata. The difference is huge!!
𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙚𝙭 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙫𝙚 PERFECTBODYGIRLSS.WEBSITE 👈
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
Next level explanation. Well done Jman.
this video gives me nostalgia from playing gran turismo on the track that your driving on
surprisingly you can learn a lot playing forza horizon 5. this was one of the first things i learned after downloading the game. you upgrade your tires and your vehicle and go from a D to an S1 vehicle just from a grip improvement.
Maybe I just saw it but that boost creep ad bit was great
Running a 120 HP Lotus Elise on track against 911t, F40and other fast cars. Careful suspension setup and scrubbed Toyos with my temp/pressure charts - they could only get me on long straits before the braking zone but not overtake. Same with my 90hp Lotus Europa. 135/75/14 front and 185/7014 crappy Firestone rated at 200kg per corner. That's wobbly tires on a 2200lb car and smooth on a1100lb Lotus. One up.. MT on a tricked out sus of 450hp Cobra AC. AR shocks, swaybars carefully located, dedion carefully setup allowed low pressure all around. Rims were light nascar steelies and that meant biiig rear tires without diverging too much from the front wheel frequency. Smooth, fast