As some commentators mention Winton Marsalis - who is great: watching Till Brönner here with Barenboim is wonderful. Brönner has been one of the most gifted contributors to Jazz and Jazz trumpet playing over the last decades. He’s is absolutely on par with the great Marsalis :)
I recently heard Wynton Marsalis express that same sentiment about "everyone knowing instantly if you play a wrong note" when you're a brass player. He too said it's the thing that bonds classical and jazz musicians. It would be a treat to listen to a conversation with Wynton and Daniel Barenboim!
These videos are very interesting to watch!I am so happy that the maestro gives us those conversations and 5 minutes on popular sonatas and so on.I really hope that i can have the honor to hear him preform live again!
I was once a full on classical guy but then I did a Level 3 Extended Diploma in Music where I was thrown into the world of pop, rock and jazz. I play saxophone and piano. 2 years later, my favourite artists are not just Beethoven and Liszt but also Pink Floyd, David Bowie, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Owl City (Adam Young) and Alexander Rybak just to name a few. I believe that in today's society, only swimming in the classical pool simply isn't enough to sustain a strong musical career. I know many classical musicians who look down on almost all other forms of music because "it isn't quality art". It's highly dangerous to say because it makes you blind to the many more ways of writing a symphony besides using an orchestra and 4 movements.
I think Music is just one since the dawn of time. Of course there are different idioms, like dialects, but the grammar beyond is always the same. What I think is changed by the time is how composers and players treat the dissonance, or, the tension and release if you like. As time goes by tension being held for more time probably because ears became more tolerant to it. Improvisation is born with music way before the idiom of Jazz brought it to life again. All great composers where improvisers, Scarlatti, Bach, Mozart, Chopin just to name a few, you name it. They where teachers, composers, interpreters, players, in one word they were real musicians. Youn can analyze Charlie Parker's solos and find the same lines Bach wrote, just with some "Jazz" accentuation. Then something bad happend: careers were separated. Improvisation, as well as playing by ear, became forbidden in the "academic" world. Damage done. To be an improviser, a real one, not a pattern player, you need to be a composer and develop some quite fine technical skills because you can't choose the best fingering, or have the chance to "erase" what you've played. In other words you don't wake up in the morning and decide to become one. Hard work behind the scenes. An improviser can't look for perfection, he looks for something unique he never heard or played before. Don't be caged by the plethora of labels market created for their own interests. There's only one Music: the bad one and the good one.
In case you're interested: an interview of Wynton Marsalis and Simon Rattle on the premiere of Wynton's "Swing Symphony" with the Berlin Philharmonic www.digitalconcerthall.com/en/concert/339#watch:339-3
Enjoy!! This is a playlist that begins with several tracks from "Brazilian Rhapsody" and includes "Take the A Train" from the album "Tribute to Duke Ellington": th-cam.com/video/2FwWMUUIctM/w-d-xo.html&start_radio=1&list=RD2FwWMUUIctM.
Mozart, Beethoven were great improvisers. Many stories about that ability they had. Beethoven was very famous first as a piano virtuoso and improviser and only later as a composer. Viennese people loved improvisation.
here you go! pls correct if i have any mistakes: Aujourd'hui, je suis tres veinard d'avoir pres de moi M. qui est a la fois mon parallele et mon paradoxe car il est en effet un musicien, mais il joue un autre chose de musique. Je veux discuter sur ce sujet. Tu sais, je viens d'Argentine ou le noyau de musique est le tango. Et c'est le tango que tous les musiciens classiques connaissait, jouait et dansait. Aux Etats-Unis, Jazz etait toujours quelque chose isole. Le plupart des musiciens ont l'avis qu'il ne faut pas melanger Jazz avec Classique et inversement. Et maintenant, voici quelq'un qui a attenu le plus haut socle de joueur trompette, et qui a dedicace son vie a jouer au Jazz. La premiere difference que j'ai songe quand j'etait tres jeune (la derniere annee :P) c'est que la majorite de Jazz est improvisee. Autrement, tu sens quelque inspiration ou idee, et tu devise. Chez classique, on a limitee a la musique sur papier. Il y a 200 ans que musicians sont tres grands improvisateurs, comme Mozart a fait avec ses cadences sur les piano concerti. Je suis de facon desole que le monde classique a perdu cette merveilleuse emotion de liberte qu'on recevoir quand on improvise. Est-ce-que ca qui vous etez attirer dans le Jazz? T: Je me mettre d'accord avec l'idee que cette liberte m'a visite immediatement. J'avais une education classique a l'epoque (j'avais debut quant j'etait 9 ... D: tu avais des poumons formidables!), et cette jeune age de commencement vient de mon cadre familiel. C'etait une tres agreable experience avec les organistes et autres gens dans l'ecole de jadis. Mon maitre insiste que 'la trompette est ton avenir, car les gens aimaient toujours ce bel son que tu produce, un des plus importants ingredients. Donc, alors on joue du Haydn et du repertoire classique'. Tous roulait biens avec les orquestres et les ateliers, mais au moment qu'un de notre joueurs au bass montre-nous un disque de Charlie Parker, ma vie etait transformee. C'est comme tous etait prener une nouvelle couleur, apres d'etre en noir et blanc. D: Et tu etait? T: 12, et je ne l'oublie jamais. Le piece etait 'Anthropologie' ---- il joue -----. Et ainsi de suite. On a beaucoup des notes au dessus d'une melodie centrale, qui aurait deja existee. D'apres je trouve que tous ces merveilleux ebats autour de la melodie sont fondes sur autres compositions de Parker. En effet, il les a prener (
As some commentators mention Winton Marsalis - who is great: watching Till Brönner here with Barenboim is wonderful. Brönner has been one of the most gifted contributors to Jazz and Jazz trumpet playing over the last decades. He’s is absolutely on par with the great Marsalis :)
I recently heard Wynton Marsalis express that same sentiment about "everyone knowing instantly if you play a wrong note" when you're a brass player. He too said it's the thing that bonds classical and jazz musicians. It would be a treat to listen to a conversation with Wynton and Daniel Barenboim!
These videos are very interesting to watch!I am so happy that the maestro gives us those conversations and 5 minutes on popular sonatas and so on.I really hope that i can have the honor to hear him preform live again!
Tremenda entrevista! Gracias máster!
You are fantastic Daniel Barenboim
El Jazz es todo improvisación. Me encanta, porque cada músico pone su Alma..Gracias MAESTRO Daniel Barenboim
Grande Daniel
Gran representante de la Patria grande Latinoamérica ,no solo de Argentina
Excellent!
I was once a full on classical guy but then I did a Level 3 Extended Diploma in Music where I was thrown into the world of pop, rock and jazz. I play saxophone and piano. 2 years later, my favourite artists are not just Beethoven and Liszt but also Pink Floyd, David Bowie, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Owl City (Adam Young) and Alexander Rybak just to name a few. I believe that in today's society, only swimming in the classical pool simply isn't enough to sustain a strong musical career. I know many classical musicians who look down on almost all other forms of music because "it isn't quality art". It's highly dangerous to say because it makes you blind to the many more ways of writing a symphony besides using an orchestra and 4 movements.
Still very young!
I think Music is just one since the dawn of time. Of course there are different idioms, like dialects, but the grammar beyond is always the same.
What I think is changed by the time is how composers and players treat the dissonance, or, the tension and release if you like. As time goes by tension being held for more time probably because ears became more tolerant to it.
Improvisation is born with music way before the idiom of Jazz brought it to life again. All great composers where improvisers, Scarlatti, Bach, Mozart, Chopin just to name a few, you name it.
They where teachers, composers, interpreters, players, in one word they were real musicians. Youn can analyze Charlie Parker's solos and find the same lines Bach wrote, just with some "Jazz" accentuation.
Then something bad happend: careers were separated.
Improvisation, as well as playing by ear, became forbidden in the "academic" world. Damage done.
To be an improviser, a real one, not a pattern player, you need to be a composer and develop some quite fine technical skills because you can't choose the best fingering, or have the chance to "erase" what you've played. In other words you don't wake up in the morning and decide to become one. Hard work behind the scenes.
An improviser can't look for perfection, he looks for something unique he never heard or played before.
Don't be caged by the plethora of labels market created for their own interests. There's only one Music: the bad one and the good one.
This conversation is amazing, it would also be nice to have Wynton Marsalis
I second that opinion!
In case you're interested: an interview of Wynton Marsalis and Simon Rattle on the premiere of Wynton's "Swing Symphony" with the Berlin Philharmonic www.digitalconcerthall.com/en/concert/339#watch:339-3
Muy interesante.
I would like to see Mr Barenboim playing some Jazz.
Enjoy!! This is a playlist that begins with several tracks from "Brazilian Rhapsody" and includes "Take the A Train" from the album "Tribute to Duke Ellington": th-cam.com/video/2FwWMUUIctM/w-d-xo.html&start_radio=1&list=RD2FwWMUUIctM.
@@annedwyer797 Lol, written jazz...:-)))
I love jazz, and I often think of it as the first draft of what eventually could become a classical composition.
Mozart, Beethoven were great improvisers. Many stories about that ability they had. Beethoven was very famous first as a piano virtuoso and improviser and only later as a composer. Viennese people loved improvisation.
Cyprien Katsaris improvised. Hopefully more will have the courage.
No French subtiles :'(
here you go! pls correct if i have any mistakes:
Aujourd'hui, je suis tres veinard d'avoir pres de moi M.
qui est a la fois mon parallele et mon paradoxe car il est en effet un
musicien, mais il joue un autre chose de musique.
Je veux discuter sur ce sujet. Tu sais, je viens d'Argentine ou le noyau de
musique est le tango. Et c'est le tango que tous les musiciens classiques connaissait, jouait et
dansait.
Aux Etats-Unis, Jazz etait toujours quelque chose isole. Le plupart des musiciens ont l'avis qu'il ne
faut pas melanger Jazz avec Classique et inversement. Et maintenant, voici quelq'un qui a attenu le plus haut
socle de joueur trompette, et qui a dedicace son vie a jouer au Jazz.
La premiere difference que j'ai songe quand j'etait tres jeune (la derniere annee :P) c'est que la majorite de Jazz
est improvisee. Autrement, tu sens quelque inspiration ou idee, et tu devise. Chez classique, on a limitee a la musique sur papier.
Il y a 200 ans que musicians sont tres grands improvisateurs, comme Mozart a fait avec ses cadences sur les piano concerti. Je suis de facon
desole que le monde classique a perdu cette merveilleuse emotion de liberte qu'on recevoir quand on improvise. Est-ce-que ca qui vous etez attirer
dans le Jazz?
T: Je me mettre d'accord avec l'idee que cette liberte m'a visite immediatement. J'avais une education classique a l'epoque (j'avais debut quant j'etait 9 ... D: tu avais des
poumons formidables!), et cette jeune age de commencement vient de mon cadre familiel. C'etait une tres agreable experience avec les organistes et autres gens dans l'ecole
de jadis. Mon maitre insiste que 'la trompette est ton avenir, car les gens aimaient toujours ce bel son que tu produce, un des plus importants ingredients. Donc, alors on joue
du Haydn et du repertoire classique'. Tous roulait biens avec les orquestres et les ateliers, mais au moment qu'un de notre joueurs au bass montre-nous un disque de Charlie Parker,
ma vie etait transformee. C'est comme tous etait prener une nouvelle couleur, apres d'etre en noir et blanc.
D: Et tu etait?
T: 12, et je ne l'oublie jamais. Le piece etait 'Anthropologie' ---- il joue -----. Et ainsi de suite. On a beaucoup des notes au dessus d'une melodie centrale, qui aurait
deja existee. D'apres je trouve que tous ces merveilleux ebats autour de la melodie sont fondes sur autres compositions de Parker. En effet, il les a prener (
ironmaz1 Oh thank you very much and don't worry i Can understand what you write :)
What a shame to write Haydn as "Hayden" in the EN subtitles!
I dont understand. In the 80s you went to Saturn and you could buy ANY jazz recording you wanted or needed. ANY.
But not necessarily in Bonn, right? - and not all of the records in the store in Cologne if I remember correctly :)
I never liked jazz