Lec 20: Problem on Lossless Join Decomposition in DBMS | Check whether Decomposition is Lossless

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  • @hameed_ludba
    @hameed_ludba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    It is not dependency preserving as F can't determine A.
    Even at 1.5x speed I can understand her very easily and saves a lot of time. Thank you ma'am for your videos these are well explained.

    • @ruqaiyyaaslammalik1792
      @ruqaiyyaaslammalik1792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I watch it at 2x

    • @ashleylove6840
      @ashleylove6840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ruqaiyyaaslammalik1792 i watch it in 3X

    • @The_attacker99
      @The_attacker99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ashleylove6840 😮 flash or wot

    • @pratham8275
      @pratham8275 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Got that

    • @lemniscate23
      @lemniscate23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      bro i pause the video, and skip 10seconds take 2seconds to understand... that means it plays on 5x

  • @JrundBerg
    @JrundBerg ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Answer for the last question: I got { C --> AB, AB ---> C, C --> DE, D --> EC, E --> F }. Comparing with the original FDs, the one I found does not contain F --> A, either directly or indirectly.

    • @arpitjaiswal5133
      @arpitjaiswal5133 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes this is correct, So the R is not dependency preservation decomposition.

    • @sanjaysm783
      @sanjaysm783 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How did E->D come? Could you spare some time explaining

    • @priyankasingh6792
      @priyankasingh6792 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      C-->A and D-->E ..but I didn't get F-->A so this is not dependency preserving ..

  • @vibhavsamaga1693
    @vibhavsamaga1693 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Ma'am u literally explained everything my teacher tried to teach for 1 week in 1 video!How do you do this ma'am.Keep it Up 👏❤😊

  • @AnujKumar-tt5md
    @AnujKumar-tt5md 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hello Ma'am... I watched your all DBMS videos🎥. You have done a tremendous work for the respective audience. Your explanation is extremely good.
    Your work truly helped me to revise the concepts after 10 yrs of completing my engineering..Thanks🙏

  • @JoffreyB
    @JoffreyB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I've watched and completed all 19 videos in "DBMS (Database Management System)" playlist. I'M SOOO READY FOR THE EXAM. BRING IT IN!!!!!
    BIG thanks from Russia. I've understood every single video I've watched and this happens rarely, because others don't explain some details over and over and sometimes you forget them and can't understand what's going on and what are we even doing. That's what I think you've done better than all of them. I've watched with every piece of a passion all your videos and wasn't bored once, but the main thing was - I UNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING.
    One suggestion if you don't mind: sometimes, when you say: "if someConditionA, someConditionB, someConditionC are true, then we can say that it's lossless decomposition" it's better to back it up with some theorem or something, because for example when I'm gonna explain it to my teacher he might ask: "and why is that so? Why if these condition are true, then it's lossless decomposition?" and I probably won't be able to explain.
    So, yeah. Thanks again for all your effort, appreciate it very much, one of the best teachers on TH-cam!

    • @soumyamitra7831
      @soumyamitra7831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can derive it yourself, just use a little bit of what Madam has taught. It's there but not like Theorem. She is teaching so that we can understand a bit better, you can get it as theorems in books.

  • @soumadipdas271
    @soumadipdas271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you ma'am, it's very helpful for campus and placement purposes as I am from ECE background and I don't have any idea about DBMS, thank you as I got place in 3 companies because of you ❤️❤️❤️, love from Kolkata🤩🤩😍😍😍😍😍

  • @sachinmishra5885
    @sachinmishra5885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beauty + knowledge =Jenny Ma'am 🤘

  • @shivamsahu3465
    @shivamsahu3465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a prefinal year student from Amity university, your videos are really helpful and easily understandable and after seeing your bloopers video I m in love with you,LOL😂

  • @anirudhdevpura2798
    @anirudhdevpura2798 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mam, the growth of your channel itself shows how much students love your channel😊.

  • @chandankumarms4288
    @chandankumarms4288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    PLEASE MAM CONTINUE THIS VEDIO LECTURES ON DBMS IT IS REALLY GOOD

  • @salmakd3586
    @salmakd3586 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess this video should come before #20 (the one preceding this). Thanks for all your amazing videos!

  • @AhmadRazaNaveed
    @AhmadRazaNaveed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mam you and your method of teaching so nice❤❤

  • @sattiwrites3186
    @sattiwrites3186 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big fan mam from Pakistan. your lecturers are very helpful...

  • @baryagameplay3757
    @baryagameplay3757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best teacher and beautiful also 😄

  • @153chhaviagrawal2
    @153chhaviagrawal2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The answer to the question is that it is not Dependency Preserving because F->A which is not present in G.

    • @asrafnizan4670
      @asrafnizan4670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      D->B is also not covered

    • @motorway9787
      @motorway9787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      bruh... F->E is also not there, but i thought if it is loseless join decomposition then it would be preserving dependency, but it is not so my answer and ur answer is same.

    • @ShahdsExerpts
      @ShahdsExerpts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asrafnizan4670 yes it is because d determines c and c determines b so by transitivity d determines b

    • @divyarana9717
      @divyarana9717 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is not dependency preserving because in subrelation 1= fd-null in sub relation 2=fd-null but in subrelation 3 fd-E->.F is there only
      so at the end we came to conculsion that it f1 U f2 U f3= f main.

    • @divyarana9717
      @divyarana9717 ปีที่แล้ว

      not equal to

  • @sumeetsingh_96
    @sumeetsingh_96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This relation is not Dependency preserving decomposition. Because F cannot derive A. IN the union of (R1 U R2 U R3).

  • @ChristopherKim-vt1qg
    @ChristopherKim-vt1qg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YOU'RE THE GOAT

  • @_suman__
    @_suman__ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The schema R = (A, B, C, D, E) is given. Give a lossless-join decomposition into BCNF of schema R. A → BC CD → E B → D E → A.

  • @castmegently55
    @castmegently55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm new here from Pakistan, am trying to learning from your 1st videos. Hope I'll cover it soon. Your teaching way is easy to understand. Thank you. Bless you. 💐😊

  • @eagle_shadow6665
    @eagle_shadow6665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your lecture are awesome ,thanks a lot mam

  • @soumadipdas6043
    @soumadipdas6043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After watching this video I have decided to take computer science engineering in after finish my school

    • @darshu2062
      @darshu2062 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are bhai thoda aur dekhle
      Itni jldi main decision nhi lena chahiye

  • @zohaib166
    @zohaib166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You always prove to be a life saver

  • @manalirajguru438
    @manalirajguru438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mam, thank you for such a wonderful session. I have got the ans for your last qsn as ‘ decomposition is not dependency preserving’ is it correct ?request you to please share the ans

  • @talent_hunt2
    @talent_hunt2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damm short vedio and all concepts are perfectly clear... thankyou mam

  • @shrikant2820
    @shrikant2820 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best teacher ❤😊

  • @pablohernanrechimon7362
    @pablohernanrechimon7362 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Como te quiero Jenny!!!! Que fácil haces todo!!!

  • @4Explorer.
    @4Explorer. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma'am I really appreciate your efforts 💗

  • @christopher123___
    @christopher123___ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very Excellent videos maam

  • @kingmaker9082
    @kingmaker9082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Sweet speed is 1.5x . Thank me later.

  • @anmolsinghal484
    @anmolsinghal484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Mam i have been studying from you for a long time now and i want to thank you for making such helpful videos. However there is one question which is given to me as assignment in my college and i cant figure out a way to solve it. If you could help me with it.. it would be great. The question is:
    Assume we have one input queue, one output queue and a stack with its associated basic operations such as push and pop. No element from the output queue can be pushed into the stack. Also, once input from the input queue is pushed into stack it cannot be put back into the input queue. We can take elements from the input queue and push into the stack. At any time we can pop an element from the stack. However, if there is no element available in the input queue, then only pop operations are possible. A popped element should be always be placed into the output queue and cannot be pushed back on to the stack. The act of producing an output sequence from a given input sequence as explained is known as stack permutation. Suppose we have a sequence of k elements 1, 2, 3, ..., k available from the input queue. Generate all stack permutation of k elements. Clearly explain the nature of stack permutations and find out an expression for the number of stack permutations.
    i know i have commented the same comment on another post.. sorry or that ().

  • @ramsajivankushwaha487
    @ramsajivankushwaha487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best teacher and cute also

  • @talentaptitude3017
    @talentaptitude3017 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much mam..this has helped me immensely

  • @radhikasaini9333
    @radhikasaini9333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The given question is not dependency preserving decomposition. I am right or wrong please tell me mam... You are really good ... 👍❤️❤️

  • @sunshinetheuniverse5732
    @sunshinetheuniverse5732 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thnku so much mam for easy explanation

  • @aasthajain92
    @aasthajain92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

  • @vrajchokshi9731
    @vrajchokshi9731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ma'am please make lectures for DCDR

  • @roniasatourian6789
    @roniasatourian6789 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing video thank you so much

  • @abhinavpancholi4342
    @abhinavpancholi4342 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    superb video mam

  • @sunilpoojari91
    @sunilpoojari91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It is not dependency preserving.
    If anyone else has solved please let me know if I am correct or wrong.

  • @thongminh1159
    @thongminh1159 ปีที่แล้ว

    you saved me, thanks a lot

  • @uniqueversalunicorn2412
    @uniqueversalunicorn2412 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The given example is not dependency preserving.. because F cannot determine A in R3. Hence, the union of all the decomposed relations (R1, R2, R3) won't have F->A. Hence the result is NOT DEPENDENCY PRESERVING.

  • @christianoronaldo1662
    @christianoronaldo1662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mam ,is the playlist complete? if NOT ,then please complete it as soon as possible . Placements are to become .

  • @kshitizpathak7289
    @kshitizpathak7289 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mam .. Please make videos Design and Analysis of Algorithms (DAA) after DBMS

  • @NONAME_G_R_I_D_
    @NONAME_G_R_I_D_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are great! Thank you, Small question. Can the common attribute in a two relations be a composite key? Lets say the Composite key is the candidate key in one relation. can we say that it is Lossless? Thank you

  • @ArvindSingh-wj7vy
    @ArvindSingh-wj7vy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mam plz make more videos of DBMS
    Why u stoped making videos of DBMS?
    I will suffer much because of thus😥

  • @shubhamoybose2129
    @shubhamoybose2129 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks didi 🙂

  • @devanshsaxena8064
    @devanshsaxena8064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maam plzz make a video on SHA algorithm

  • @deluluatul
    @deluluatul ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you man

  • @Anitakumari-hx4tl
    @Anitakumari-hx4tl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mam within how many days will u upload rest of the topics?

  • @DebashisSaha-xh9jy
    @DebashisSaha-xh9jy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You mam

  • @debasishmishra3507
    @debasishmishra3507 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you take first R2 and R3 then R23 is satisfy all three condition then combine with R1 and R23 all three condition is satisfy so i think this is lossless decomposition

  • @pannagabm2100
    @pannagabm2100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tqqq mam... 🤩🤩

  • @vishalraina1898
    @vishalraina1898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    F->A not covered...so not dependency preserving

    • @kallakurianirudh9055
      @kallakurianirudh9055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      C->D also
      not covered so not dependency preserving

    • @aravintha6166
      @aravintha6166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kallakurianirudh9055 C->DE here C determines D so here D->EF and F->A are not covered

  • @A1Tech6111
    @A1Tech6111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks madam

  • @momscookbook2222
    @momscookbook2222 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @prernadhiman8731
    @prernadhiman8731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mam when are you going to make videos on multivalued ,4 th and 5th normal form??

  • @ankitrastogi8719
    @ankitrastogi8719 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi ,Jenny ma^m,pls make videos on System Analysis and Design.

  • @sahithi_sribhashyam
    @sahithi_sribhashyam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    mam if we have two common attributes in given decomposed subrelations then we should find closure for both attributes???

  • @code-express
    @code-express 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mam' theory of automata , kaa bhi lecture upload kar do .....plzzzz🙏🙏🙏

  • @princepratikvines2555
    @princepratikvines2555 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mam please make on design and analysis algorithm

  • @PavanKumar-di4yy
    @PavanKumar-di4yy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super mam

  • @radhikasaini9333
    @radhikasaini9333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mam ap relational model or ER model par BHI viedo bna do please...

  • @amasiancovers4779
    @amasiancovers4779 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why all are saying F->A not covered?,F->A is there right? Because in dependency EF,when finding F closure we get F->A right? Then how F->A is not there?i cant understand

  • @sanjananayak9366
    @sanjananayak9366 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma'am there was a doubt why it is not a lossless decomposition ? as C is a candidate key E is not but we have to find atleast one only right?

  • @prathmeshsharma7628
    @prathmeshsharma7628 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make videos on Linux os and c++

  • @anishjoshi1999
    @anishjoshi1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you mam

  • @aviralkhanduja5834
    @aviralkhanduja5834 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    not dependency preserving as AB->C and F->A are not present

  • @akshatchaudhary9393
    @akshatchaudhary9393 ปีที่แล้ว

    not necessarily candidate key.. it can be super key too

  • @imshubh17
    @imshubh17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm first viewer🤗😘

  • @VamsiKrishna-ym3cr
    @VamsiKrishna-ym3cr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the common attribute should be candidate key or it can be super key ...?cause in previous videos at some point you told it was super key and after that you are saying for candidate key all the time...

  • @aviralkhanduja5834
    @aviralkhanduja5834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MAM PLEASE UPLOAD 4TH AND 5TH NF

  • @elaksuthra6324
    @elaksuthra6324 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ma'am when will you do the lecture for TOC, DAA. pls am waiting

  • @MohitRaj-do8gv
    @MohitRaj-do8gv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mam please upload all the alogo from cormen book.

  • @lingamurthylingamurthy4083
    @lingamurthylingamurthy4083 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please keep data structures in order mam

  • @jainarayananr8679
    @jainarayananr8679 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone please tell me how to get the FDs of each decomposed relations in which mam has asked us to check Dependency Preserving condition

  • @darthdaenerys
    @darthdaenerys 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not dp as F->A is not present in the union of all the sub relations

  • @akshaywagh9157
    @akshaywagh9157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    AB-c is also

  • @neerajprakash4271
    @neerajprakash4271 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jenny meri jaan 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @bongnemesis1057
    @bongnemesis1057 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mam what happen if there is no super key?

  • @praveenkumar-wh1qg
    @praveenkumar-wh1qg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    NET paper first ki preparation kaise ki aapne. Can u please share with us

  • @anngrahdhar7400
    @anngrahdhar7400 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is not dependency preserving

  • @Touay
    @Touay 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow i like ur coat mam !
    It's osmmm

  • @kavitarani5891
    @kavitarani5891 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mam I have problem in few questions...... Can you please help me with that

  • @saivarun1748
    @saivarun1748 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's Not dependency preserving

  • @akshaywagh9157
    @akshaywagh9157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    E is candidate key

  • @harshittiwari2281
    @harshittiwari2281 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks mam ... nd ha kdi hss v liya kro ;)

  • @ashubehera115
    @ashubehera115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mam please add coa lessons

  • @mahmoodtashaf
    @mahmoodtashaf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it the end of DBMS tutorial?

  • @mytravellingtales_
    @mytravellingtales_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What are your qualifications? Are you from any tier 1 college? How peoples are comparing you to IIT profs. ? Please tell your qualifications nation wants to know :D

  • @souravsengupta627
    @souravsengupta627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maam video daliye kaha hay aap, no videos for 20 days......

    • @JennyslecturesCSIT
      @JennyslecturesCSIT  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am under medical supervision and on a complete bed rest ...

    • @souravsengupta627
      @souravsengupta627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JennyslecturesCSIT Sry maam
      I didn't know about it
      Take rest madam
      Get well soon madam

  • @Cookiesandnuts
    @Cookiesandnuts ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did f go ?

  • @vivekkumaryadav5977
    @vivekkumaryadav5977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma'am PHP script Ki video banao

  • @kallakurianirudh9055
    @kallakurianirudh9055 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    C->D not covered so not dependency preserving

  • @chetanraj7974
    @chetanraj7974 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hii mam , would you like to have dinner ? Final year student at IIT Kanpur

  • @FINANCIALYOGI
    @FINANCIALYOGI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question of Dependency preserving Decomposition: R(ABCDEF) FD F(AB-C, C-D, D-EF, F-A, D-B)
    Decomposed(ABC, CDE, EF). This not dependency preserving Decomposition as Decomposed relation attributes can't determine F attribute. Dependency D-F of F FD is not in G FD. Kindly advise where I can see yr videos for 4NF and 5NF and decomposition methods

    • @soumyamitra7831
      @soumyamitra7831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Umm.... NO. In G i.e. F1 U F2 U F3 = { AB->C, C->AB, C->DE, D->CE, E->F } So, clearly, by transitive property, we can conclude D->F, so, that's there in F too and not the reason for failing to preserve dependency. Rather it is F->A which is the responsible.

  • @Gg-pq3bq
    @Gg-pq3bq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥰

  • @HunterAG
    @HunterAG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ♥️

  • @aashishsingh8489
    @aashishsingh8489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Na ho payga aisa padahi😬😂🤣

  • @KrishnaPandit1999
    @KrishnaPandit1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is not DP.

  • @kikkarasrinivas3050
    @kikkarasrinivas3050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    btw who's this jenny ?