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- Jousting world champion Shane Adams rates eight horseback fight scenes in movies and television, such as "Lord of the Rings," for realism.
Adams discusses the accuracy of horseback fight scenes in "Game of Thrones" (2011); "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" (2002), starring Viggo Mortensen and Orlando Bloom; and "John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum" (2019), with Keanu Reeves. He comments on the armor and tactics of cavalry battles in "The Last Duel" (2021), starring Matt Damon and Adam Driver; "Gladiator" (2000), featuring Russell Crowe; and "A Knight's Tale" (2001), with Heath Ledger. Adams also analyzes unconventional riding styles highlighted in Disney's "Mulan" (2020) and "Ben-Hur" (1959).
Adams has 20 jousting world championships. He hosted the History channel show "Full Metal Jousting" as well as the jousting reality show "Tilt."
Website: www.extremejousting.com/about-us
"Tilt" TV series: www.amazon.com/gp/video/detai...
EDITOR'S NOTE: The distribution company of "The Last Duel" (2021) is 20th Century Studios. It is incorrectly labelled as "Lionsgate" in the first three seconds of the video. Insider regrets the error.
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“I had little injuries” , a minute later: “I broke my hand 7 times… bone coming out of my hand..” .
Like a boss.
Tbf, he said he had little injuries jousting. He said he broke his hand several times learning to deliver the blow 😀
@@ZesPak Yes, but I think the point was that he just threw out there that he considered breaking his hand so many times as 'little injuries'.
@@conniewilkinson9347 yes, I’m pretty sure he was just repeating what the original comment was saying
If you do any combat sports, you're going to break your hands a time or 12. There's a reason they're called Boxer's Fractures.
Tis but a scratch...
This guy could be a character in Game of Thrones and I would totally buy it
He is every got character combined
@@meu02136 He will probably be the guy to defeat the wight walkers in the books
@@meu02136 what!? Ee no
He kinda looks like the smith that made needle arya’s sword in winterfell
I saw some of his older photos of him in his jousting gear and he absolutely could have been cast as Robert Baratheon
and the award for "most forgiving expert so far" goes to...
seriously. other experts on this style of breakdown video are like "lance is 7 inches too short and the helmet is missing a rivet. 2/10" , but this absolute legend is like "I love what i do, im very knowledgeable but also just a tiny bit insane... everything gets a progressively higher and more forgiving score just because im getting visibly excited talking about it"
bring this guy back please.
Giving marks on a 10 scale is just a bad ending to an awesome talk.
Lmao. I'm trying to figure out what's going on with his hair...is it dyed...is it made of rope? Is it just enchanted and has a better defensive bonus so he wears it anyway? I need answers...
most are actually too nice
He does it because of the changing accuracy it seems
also idk if he's more insane than much tohers
@@mikemurphy5898 I'm pretty sure he just doesn't wash it, at all.
This guy not just explain by talking. He also shows us what some of those equipments actually look like. Definitely need more videos of him.
“Flying through the air is easy… it’s the sudden stop that sucks”😂
That's what my friend wanted to find out but sadly he wasn't able to tell me how it felt
@@wheresyourmama6925 r/cursedcomment
That comment reminded me of Jeremy Clarckson’s quote “high speed doesn’t kill you, suddenly becoming stationary kills you”
@@alessandroriva2832 thats what I thought too
It's not the fall that kills you, its the sudden stop at the bottom.
This guy is awesome! Clearly a different cat, but also a well spoken, articulate, and knowledgeable dude who is sharing about his greatest passion in life. More experts like this please!
A cat? How uncool go back to the 70s noob
@@TheNaturalGamer1 We could assume the person is also older, hence the usage of cat.
Yeah, this guy was fun
Do none of you seriously not know this was the host of the show full metal jousting that had a season on tv? It was a reality show about a jousting tournament and the competitors.
@@kevinross6235 Nope, I assume they're black
I love how he said: "And the horse realizes it's stupid" 😂
Like "I didn't sign up for this sh*t"
2:30 was intentional murder by the Mountain and probably Cersei. It's heavily implied in the first book. The guy who died was Jon Arryn's squire newly knighted where his own Lannister squire 'forgot' to put his gorget on. It meant Ned couldn't interview him for information.
He also called him the hound?
@@colinprentice2878 No, the Hound is his brother. That was The Mountain that Rides, Gregor Clegane.
@@theduckchick Yes, but the guy in this video called him the Hound. 2:32
Being newly knighted is meaningless in this example. No way former squire would forget about gorget. It was his job for a long time, not knights. You can justify for example lack of experience in combat and so on, but not this.
@@Woodsie_Lord hence the quotes, implying it was intentional.
I performed on the stage next to Shane Adams & the Knights of Valour for a decade. He's one of the most knowledgeable and capable horsemen I have ever met. Excellent choice for this video! Great to see him again. Shiver your timbers, Sir Shanton!
Do you know if this guy has a TH-cam channel or something?
@@NemesisApocaliptic i bet he doesnt. This dude probably made a deliberate move to an area that lacks every kind of telecommunications service just so he can live the most genuine medieval existence possible. He looks like he drinks his hawaiian punch out of a goblet.
Nerdddddddddd!
I think they briefly did a reality show where they went through a season of the jousting. Incredible stuff. Unfortunate that it doesn't draw more spectators, but it's REALLY hard to find a lot of good athletes willing and able to do this and survive a whole season without injuries.
Really? Why? Why'd you perform? Doing what? Not snide simply curious. Were you doing the kind of jousting he was talking about? And, if so, why? He's not the 1st person I've heard its like being in a car wreck so that begs the question why punish yourself for that? Personally, I love the historical aspect but not the umm.. "lets do this and see what its like aspect". But, thats me...
Wish they spent more time on Knight's Tale, it's a sports movie for jousting. That scene with the crappy helmet was intentional, the "knight" was broke and his incorrect and cobbled together gear was to show him as an underdog.
Yeah, a lot of that nuance was missing for the GoT clip too.
wrong: the broken helmet was used as an excuse to hide his face from the local lord.
at that point, he was posing as his former master, who had died before the tournament, *to which* they wanted to assist, *to the end* of gaining some money, *because* they were broke.
order.
@@bcn1gh7h4wk Yes but you missed the OP point; the actual fact of the armor that was used; it was cobbled together from his former master, and did indeed show him as an underdog; the reason he didnt *remove* the helmet, despite there being clearance to do so was for the reason you stated.
@@blackie126 right but the point the expert made was about the type of helmet, not the quality. When you think about it jousting helmets tend to be one solid piece, which is takes less skill to make and is thus cheaper. His style of helmet would've shown him to be anything but an underdog.
So no, I disagree that the expert missed the nuance. The nuance was irrelevant to the point he made.
@@dillongage Not always cheaper, and not always a single piece - we have a plethora of medieval manuals and journals describing jointed and hinged helmets that were oft used for jousting as tournaments often also included other bouts than just jousting. In fact, it was fairly common to enter three bouts of three sorts, regardless of what type of bout. Most of the time, the purpose made jousting helmets such as one made known in popular culture by Dark Souls (the name of which escapes me at the moment, but a cursory google search would likely find) were incredibly impractical for anything else, and also expensive.
Further more, again, this was armor cobbled together from another knight and what he could scrounge; therefore, older, not tailored to his own stature, and thus depicting of an underdog. Just because a piece *may* have been expensive does not negate the storytelling. A poor carpenter in a cobbled together and ill fitting suit of armor of varied price and wear that may have once been expensive in part does not particularly strike me as a regal hero-expected-to-be knight.
Not gonna lie, loved it when he said "punching the lance will break your arm". I'm trained with using spears and polearms on foot and have this chain and hitch that links my weapon and gauntlet together so during sparring my weapon doesn't go flying. I have a friend who raises horses and once I asked if I could take one of his plow horses for a spin and attempt a cavalry charge. I used my footman's pike which doesn't have the lance's choke, thinking that the chain will be enough. Basically what happened was the impact of the pike hitting the hay bale we set up as a target and the ensuring yank snapped the chain, the pike shaft, and BOTH my forearm bones, and I was wearing my armor that had reinforced steel strips along the arms for extra protection and structural integrity, if I had not been wearing those gauntlets I won't be surprised if my entire arm got ripped off. Needless to say, I've never tried that stunt again, and I don't plan to, not until I've learnt proper horseback combat.
Maybe you shouldn't have used a static and pretty massive target ^^
@@Red80008 True, but smashing watermelons is kind of cliché and with a pike it's not going to look as impressive as, say, a massive sword/axe/hammer, there won't be the splatter. With spears and pikes and the like some of us like to hit with enough force to shove something big and bulky aside or completely demolish something that can but isn't easy to shatter. I personally love doing stunts with blocks of ice, but making a big piece of ice is difficult and requires some specific equipment, and I didn't have the kind of gear to lug my freezer onto my friend's ranch so I thought we'd just improvise.
@@1003JustinLaw I guess its simple physics at work: The hay bale is a massive heavy dense object with a somewhat good structural integrity. Depending on the size of the hay bale and how it is held together the bale has a MASSIVE advantage through weight and stability. It likely will not budge!! The horse is massive. It won't budge. You are locked in the saddle and the saddle is tightly strung to the horse. Your hips won't budge. Your arm is connected to your body that is locked into the saddle (Thank god it did not rip! But the muscles and bones were the weak part and did flex and break...). Your weapon is locked into your hand/gauntlet+chain. It was the weakest link (thank god!!) so there was material tear that lightened (!!) the stress on your bone and muscle mass. Thank god it gave way because otherwise the weakest link would have been the arm and it might have ripped. Else you might have been unmounted from the saddle (depending on the angle).
You basically had a car crash with the impact force of the speed and mass of the horse and the energy got transfered over the weapon to your joints/muscle/bone structure. Scary stuff!
Always use a target that is MUCH lighter than yourself. Slicing or piercing through a hay bale needs colossal impact and structural integrity. You basically need the structural integrity of a forklift to do that. Now imagine the forklift charging at the haybale and we can imagine the damage to the forklift because of the weight of the hay bale...
What you want is a straw man, that is standing and under pressure will fall over or be ripped apart. Or a thin (!!) structure that will under all circumstances be pierced and collapse. Everytime the object has meaningful weight or structural integrity the physics will check against your skeletal structure and you roll the dice to tear and rip of your body.
Hay bale makes for a juicy target though for throwing practice from horseback. So you can throw spears from horseback and from a standing point and compare how much deeper the horseback throw penetrates through the bale. If it is a well compacted bale there will be meaningful differences because the horses speed gives much more piercing power than you can generate from a standing position (even with better technique!).
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@@MrVlonk Right? Personally, I'd have jerry-rigged a quintain. Takes a bit of time, but saves you from injuries exactly as described, for the reasons you described.
I’ve seen him running jousting competitions twice and boy is it impressive. I have two of their broken lances mounted on my wall. Equestrian sports are extremely dangerous as is (I know from personal experience) combined with a full contact combat sport is insane. However the most impressive thing about this guy is how much he truly cares about the welfare of the horses. You might expect a sport like this to be really rough on the animals, but his care for the animals and implementation of rules for their protection is unmatched in any other equestrian sport.
Even back then, I'm talking the actual centuries of jousting, knights, etc, there was an unbreakable bond between riding animals and humans. Like Shane said, no one in their right mind would target a horse at all in these competitions. Knights were prideful but not enough to consider themselves above the horse that they have to accomplish what they do. Animal cruelty, even back then, was heavily frowned upon. Welfare of horses was treated just as important as personal health. Usually, Knights had a single horse they bonded with. Taking another's horse or trading out their horses wasn't really a thing unless absolutely necessary where the horse couldn't compete anymore temporary or permanent (old age, injury, pregnancy).
@@Tigressa101 yes, and when you understand horses and how finnicky they are and how long it takes to earn their trust to do these things the knights would be asking them to do it makes a lot of sense. horses aren't machines, even in modern horsemanship when you find a good one you stick with them like glue.
Should have seen how mad Sean got when a rider struck a horse in his show, full metal jousting. First, they reprimanded the contestant, and then they kicked him out after Sean had time to dwell on it. He couldn't tolerate any form of abuse to the horses.
@@MadSpaceWolfDiary right? And it wasn’t even a hard hit. That kind of behavior is *encouraged* in other equestrian sports. When I saw that was when I first became a huge fan of his.
I've never thought to myself what an 'average jouster' looks like but Shane just gave me my new mental image lol
This guy looks like he’s one second away from proclaiming someone the King in the North.
You know nothing Aidan Rogers.....
HOLY CRAP best one ever
Not only is he knowledgeable but the dude is so badass he called them Goblins.
In Tolkein's lore, the term orc is a translation of goblin, so the two words are pretty interchangeable. In The Hobbit, the orcs are referred to as goblins for the most part.
@@TheRedWon as far as I know uruk-hais are half-orcs at the most, but would not use the term orcs/goblins here.
Except they are Uruk-hai and not Goblins...
@@AliDixon95 Goblin, Orc, and Uruk are all different words for the same thing and tolkien used them interchangeably. Whilst there are different "races" of orc (much in the same way there are different races of men) the Goblin->Orc->Uruk distinction is purely an invention of the films.
Goblin is the "english" word for them. It is not a term used in middle-earth, but, as tolkien described it, "in the language of translation". He predominantly uses goblin in the hobbit and, whilst he shifts towards mostly using orc in LotR, he continues to uses both terms throughout all of his publications.
In the preface to , Tolkien writes:
"Orc is not an English word. It occurs in one or two places but is usually translated goblin (or hobgoblin for the larger kinds)."
In the two main elvish languages it is either Orco or Orch (quenya and Sindarin)
In the language of Mordor it is Uruk (Black Speech)
In the language of Men is it Orka or Orc (Westron)
Uruk-hai is what orcs call themselves. It just means "orc-folk".
The elves of Lothlorien and Mirkwood knew Sindarin, but mostly used a different form of elvish called Silvan, which is why legolas refers to them as Yrch at one point when talking to another elf.
Tolkien refers to Azog as both an orc and as a goblin multiple times.
The same goes for Saruman's "uruk-hai":
"At that moment Pippin saw why some of the troop had been pointing eastward. From that direction there now came hoarse cries, and there was Grishnákh again, and at his back a couple score of others like him: long-armed crook-legged ORCS. They had a red eye painted on their shields."
"The hobbits felt Grishnákh's fingers twitch. 'O ho!' hissed the GOBLIN softly. 'That's what he means, is it? O ho! Very ve-ry dangerous, my little ones.' "
"There were four GOBLIN-soldiers of greater stature, swart, slant-eyed, with thick legs and large hands. They were armed with short broad-bladed swords, not with the curved scimitars usual with ORCS: and they had bows of yew, in length and shape like the bows of Men. Upon their shields they bore a strange device: a small white hand in the centre of a black field; on the front of their iron helms was set an S-rune, wrought of some white metal."
"Upon a stake in the middle was set a great GOBLIN head; upon its shattered helm the white badge could still be seen."
@@radred609 i know.. we are talking about the films 😄
You're also a maasive gimp for typing all that x
Normally the accuracy is the thing i appreciate the most in these. But the care for the horses, both in his actual life and in his explanations, was a special treat.
It was far more back then. Like he said, the investment that went into training and maintaining a horse, especially a war horse was insane. They didn't want to just lose that.
"I haven't had many injuries while jousting" but "I have broken my hand 7 times while training to joust". Lol.
Probably still not many in comparison to the horse training.
I judged this guy in the first 30 seconds and shame on me, this guy is extremely knowledgeable, funny, intelligent and an absolutely amazing teacher during the entirety of the video. Bring this man back. I couldn't be happier to be wrong.
Often the way with Insider vids I find. That's why you gotta sit through them all and 9 times out of 10, you look forward to them coming back on.
Never judge a book by its cover ;) And stay curious ^^ I used to be a judgmental person too in the past, but it happened so often that I was pleasantly surprised by people that in the end I decided that my judgment wasn't worth anything and was actually keeping me from discovering great things.
@@steerj07 With a last name like Dupuis you shouldn't b judging anyone.
What was the judgement can you elaborate?
@@punawelewele fair haha
I've met Shane and conversed with him several times and even was fortunate enough to go to his stables. He truly is a genuinely good human. So cool to see him do this video!
What are his horses like?
Love all of this. Will say, for the lord of the rings part, Theodin was injured just before the ride, so makes sense he would wobble in his seat. Then you have the actor who probably struggled in the armor, which is the real reason he wobbled. Love how coincidence fed into the realism of the scene
The horse was also going down stairs. Which adds to the rough ride.
I would love to see more of his reactions. Great information, not too negative, honest and clear. Please book him for a part 2
Id definitely dig another run down by this guy. He seems like a historian of Medieval arts.
There is a History Channel Jousting show "Full Metal Jousting" and Knights of Mayhem (Discovery?) that he did back around 2012. Highly recommend them.
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I like how this guy LOOKS like he’s outta the medieval times
yeah, like a Viking probably, because not every culture back then, had the custom of male long hair.
@@maximilianolimamoreira5002 Most did to some extent, at least by modern standards. Not this long, though.
This is why I watch this channel. The level of professionalism and knowledge, while still trying to be 100% honest and true. It's amazing.
Not all of them unfortunately
I love A Knight's Tale. it's just a fun film that tries to translate the sport of jousting to a modern audience in a fun, touching way. there's no weird colour shading, no trying to convince us everyone back then was covered in filth, no grimdark edginess trying to be cool... it's just such a great movie!
It's, to this day, my favorite Heath Ledger role
One thing that I loved about the Duel was the that armor actually worked! Swords and axes does not slice through plate armor like paper. There were multiple times in the scene where the sword struck the armor with no effect. love it.
Oh yea? How'd you like that helmet?
i also loved how they used their swords as clubs, which is really realistic and is a genuine skill used at the time.
@@ufc990 well they paid for the actor's faces, they wanted their money's worth and it conveys the actor's emotions better; more dramatic effect. Realism is usually on the top of my list but in this case, I feel the rest of the fight was so well done
@@mr.c.3760 Garbage, it's alright you can say it
@@mr.c.3760 Iron Man has a fully enclosed helmet at all times during combat, and they still let us see his face by simulating camera shots within the visor. The half helm was just ridiculous. Plus the faces were in the movie without helms on for the vast majority of the movie. It was a dumb choice that they made.
Did this guy really call the mighty Uruk-hai of Isengard "Goblins"?
Probably the worst way any Uruk has ever been insulted.😁
Serves them right for dropping their pikes!
To be fair. The term Orc and Goblin can be interchangeable. In the Hobbit, Orcs are referred to as Goblins.
Most people think of Goblins though as a separate smaller breed.
I know that Uruk-hai are a different breed of Orc entirely, however it's almost acceptable to refer to all Orcs and Uruk-hai alike as Goblins.
I don't take orders from orc maggots.
In Tolkien Orcs and Goblins are equivalent.
Uruks are referred to as goblins a few times in the books. Goblins and orcs mean the same thing in Tolkien's work.
Interesting history about the charging into spears part (just adding to what you pointed out) during the last large scale Crusade in 1396, against the Ottoman Empire, during the Battle of Nicopolis, the French avangarde (made up of young, inexperienced and impetuous knights and mounted archers) were defeated because of riding into stakes fixed in the ground, archer fire and spearwall. The interesting part is that they managed to win the first charge, after which they took out the stakes to make way for the rear lines of knights and managed to rout the first Ottoman lines - made up of inexperienced conscripts. Then they decided to pursue the first lines of the routing Turkish conscripts uphill, into the second line of defense - well trained spearmen and archer infantry. They actually had the option to wait for the Hospitaler and Templar knights, and the rest of the allied contingents - especially the Bulgarian, Wallachian and Hungarian armies whose rulers already had extensive knowledge about anti-Ottoman tactics. But they still decided to charge, and in the chaos and enthusiasm they fell into a deadly trap which generated a chain of events that led to the defeat of the crusade. There are various sometimes conflicting sources, but the fact that knights charged into spearwalls, that spearwalls were not always the shotgun to the cavalry seems to be agreed upon. I believe that in a Western European conflict, where most wars were fought between nobles of various standings and later with mercenaries, the scope was to prove might, to intimidate and show off your valour on the field, not to kill your expensive horses into spears. That is why there was such a revolution and an offence from the part of the English to train and employ peasant archers, to use fire and stakes or horse traps into their armies during the 100 years war. On the other hand, in Eastern Europe, where all able bodied peasants, brigands and various mercenaries were levied and hired to fight armies made up of hundreds of thounsants of slaves, mercenaries and sometimes even brigands, you would rarely see chivalry, prisoner exchange or protection for their animals...one brutal tactic was killing all livestock, burning all the fields, poisoning the wells and demolishing buildings in the way of invading armies. We tend to give medieval people too much of a modern sensibility sometimes. Some things were pretty similar to our modern view upon the world and some things were utterly barbaric and alien to us.
How many times have you been injured
I enjoy the fact that every battle-related movies breakdown, whether made by Insider or GQ, always features scenes from LotR.
He looks exactly what i imagined a cavalry expert looks like... only thing missing is his horse with a strange medieval name like "Ama'ury" and he gets really mad if you dont pronounce it with a medieval german accent.
You know this guy drink all his beer...excuse me....ale from a hollowed out horn and he always smells like sweat and old leather.
Fun fact Amauri is a relatively common Brazilian name
@@memyself898 Let me correct you, I'd bet its ale or mead for this man.... *smiles*
@@syreallewyatt5048 touche' good sir!!
I´d love to know how they manage to keep finding such extraordinary people
Research. Good research. Unfortunately a lost skill in a great many videos online.
Good research can be as simple as movie credits. If you look for people who were hired on as consultants for a film, you can find great people.
This one was great! He offered so much information and it was relevant to each clip while also talking about his own experiences. He also has a ton of knowledge of jousting history without technically being a historian, great video!
It's also logical to throw away the reins. Horses were expensive (and good horses still are) and if you fell and the horses didn't, well, it saved a lot of money. Also, when a horse falls onto you, you can break much more as if you fell alone. So, it's always more intelligent to not fall with a horse.
Yes, the Knights horses were the race horses, and Hunter/Jumper show horses of the day and with the training involved they were a real investment.
Can't imagine jousting. Now Dressage, the equivalent of dancing ballet on a horse, I wouldn't mind that.
This is the first thing taught in horse lessons. DROP YOUR REINS. Get your feet out of the stirrups if you can. Don’t tense up (if you can.) You do not want to 1. Bring your horse down with you or 2. Be dragged by the horse. It actually hurts when your foot gets caught on the way down.
@@Lukiel666 I do dressage, English Equitation and Showjumping. Honestly, showjumping is the most fun. Dressage is all about perfection which drives me loony sometimes. I honestly love having fun and going over stuff.
@@KateandBree I did dressage just for fun not competition. Had English trained horses at trail riding stable. Ever see "Man in the iron mask' movie? Laughed out loud in the theater. They showed the capriole to Leonardo DiCaprio and I said to my barn manager watching with me, "Leonardo, the capriole."
@@Lukiel666 I do dressage on the Special Olympics level, so it’s more like Dressage Lite. It’s still one of my hardest tasks as concentrating on that amount of perfection is lunacy for me. I’ll save that for the Tempel Lippizans which are near me. 😂
I like how he and the other warfare expert react to the calvary charge on pike formation differently yet came to the same conclusion that direct head on charge in horses is not a good idea.
Normal person with sanity would not run headlong into a pike formation, so why would anyone assumed an intelligent animal like a horse would be willing to charge a wall of pike or polearms despite their training.
Normally yes, but if you take a 6m long lance and some ballsy riders with great tactics you get a formation that hadn't lost a battle for over 100 years. It worked because a typical pike was only 3 m long so before it could reach the rider, the calveryman would have already impaled the 2 pikesman behind you. But how could have you known that since all you learn about european history is how they colonized the world. Try listening to some real europen reanactors who know what they are talking about and know that europen history wasnt just like some big reneissance fair.
@@kacperk8734 I find it highly doubtful that medieval cavalrymen used lances that were 18ft long. Most of what I can find in terms of length is usually about 3 and at most 4 meters. Pike formations really didn't come into major effect until the high and late middle ages when the infantry revolution began. Before that it was shorter spears, and you are right that in that case a horseman would be able to out reach an opponent in many cases. Yet, you must also remember that the main power of a cavalry charge was not its frontal deadliness but rather the fear factor and psychological impact of seeing hundreds or thousands of heavily armed riders thundering towards you. Cavalry charges against lines of determined infantry who held their ground didn't work a lot of the time. You can see that at Hastings, Bannockburn, Nicopolis, Agincourt (though that battle did have other factors), and many other engagements. At the Battle of Jaffa (I think), in which Richard the Lionheart defeated Saladin, the charge of the outnumbered Crusader cavalry put the entire Muslim army to flight, because of the terror that seeing thousands of pounds of horse and rider induced. Cavalry charges were meant more often than not to scare the enemy into breaking ranks and routing, because when an enemy turned their back it became far easier to kill them, and the rout is where the real slaughter took place in most battles.
@@lordblenkinsopp1537 for medival riders you are correct. However you may want to look into 17 th century battles. Thats the time period to which I was refering. For example the battles of Kircholm, Chocim, Kłuszyn, Trzciana, and finally Vienna.
@@lordblenkinsopp1537 winged hussars used 6m long lances but theyre not really 'medieval'
Calls The Mountain "The Hound". 1/10
He knows his stuff regarding actual jousting, though, so 9.9/10 overall.
Seems like left-handed jousters would have a huge advantage
This was fascinating. Shane is a really engaging speaker about his sport, which I didn’t know was being preserved to this extent. I’ll go look up some jousting videos, and maybe see where there are events to spectate from the crowd. Thanks for the video!
0:28 First Clip: Game of Thrones 4/10
3:12 Second Clip: Gladiator 8/10
4:51 Third Clip: A Knight's tale 7.5/10
8:07 Fourth Clip:The lord Of Rings 7/10
10:49 Fifth Clip: John Wick 8/10
12:15 Sixth Clip: Ben-Hur 10/10
13:51 Seventh Clip: Mulan 9/10
14:57 Eight Clip: The last duel 9/10
This is no rabble of mindless Goblins. These are uruk hai. Their armor is thick and their shields broad.
Yet they get cut down like grass every time 😉
I have fought many wars, Master Dwarf. I know how to defend my own keep.
still goblins
WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE ME DO???
But their pike lines are unreliable and let cavalry through with a glint of sunlight.
13:01 lets not forget: the highest payed athlete in history was a chariot racer: "Gaius Appuleius Diocles" is said to have won over $15 billion in today's dollars.
Compound interest over 2,000 years really adds up.
@@CorePathway 15 Billion accounting for inflation, no interest
I love how it's "who cares about riders, SAVE THE HORSE!" I appreciate that stance 😆
"They've been riding since birth." Crazy as it may sound, that statement is actually very literal. Horse cultures like the Huns, Mongols, and even the Native American Commanches are all people that learn how to ride a horse BEFORE they learn how to walk.
Highly unlikely. Walking first is definitely a first for riding horses.
Comanches were serious business. Lars Anderson has a video showing that the Comanche were skill-wise the greatest horse archers on Earth and even managed to shut down the Conquistadores, even though they lacked almost every cavalry and bow technology of the other great horsearcher civilizations. Glad to see someone else loves them!
@@Donjuanantoine Just retelling myths. How can a toddler guide a horse?
@@Donjuanantoine I think he's referring to babies and toddlers riding with a parent.
@@varelion Riding a horse is all about balance. If a child can sit up - well, a horse's back is broad. And there are many many stories of people who rode before they could walk.
FINALLY one of these is a professional rider reviews movies! This was missing for a long time.
The kneeling archery scene in Battle of The Bastards in GOT is still the most impressive in my opinion.
what kneeling archery?
kneeling archery scene?
@@paloma4444 oops, it was in the "Dothraki attacks the Lannister Army" part, not the battle of the Bastards. There's just so much impressive stunt riding you kind of forget.
But the way you'd have to have a horse bridled up, then put your one knee on the seat of the saddle, would be incredibly tricky. I'd just never seen that done before.
@@Jacob-ge1py The Dothraki did it, in one of their siege scenes
@@elisabethandersen1102 I don’t recall the specific shot you’re talking about, but trick riding is trick riding. Just owing to human nature, I’m guessing it’s been around about 6 months less than humans riding horses. The gear has changed and the weapons have changed over time but the basics of trick riding have not…
Anyone else love listening to experts talking about their passion no matter the topic?
Please invite this gentleman again! It's a delight to hear the explanations but also watch someone who enjoys the good scenes.
I'm going to watch this video with my dad. I took him to his first joust three years ago and he had been hooked ever since. Great job explaining jousting!
You should have stunt scenes from Polish film "Teutonic knights". The film was made in 1960, I think, and has some amazing stunt performance of the battle of Grunwald. One of the biggest battles of medieval Europe.
I'm also kinda disappointed that an expert horseman and jousting champion didn't get to see any scene involving The Winged Hussars as well.
No need. It happened for real. The movie just retold their story.
Shooketh first time I’ve even seen an expert rate one of these clips a 10. Ever. This man truly must be an expert.
Probably the best movie analysing video I’ve watched. Really interesting, cheers 🍺🍺👍
I met Shane several years ago in 2012... then 2014... and many times after that. Shane is the mosy humbling and wise person that I've ever spoke to, especially as someone that has had a TV show and so many titles. I was a young teen that loved horses and wanted to joust myself, and he showed nothing but kindness. He made every effort to make me feel welcomed and special, including giving me a signed piece of a broken lance that I still have today!
I would love to be able to see him joust again, especially after all these years.
Video only just started and immediately I want This guy to have his own TH-cam channel. 🖤
This guy is a Rohirrim for sure. A warrior of Eorlingas. 🐴
You can tell he loves what he does and appricates the skill involved in all of the productions from the High marks he gave almost every scene
Excellent information, beautifully done, thank you.👏🏻
I really enjoyed this one, he explained very well, without the unnecessary comments about how it's not realistic.
Exactly. Too many of their experts get very ticky tacky on their criticisms.
I think he realizes the difference between wouldn't and shouldn't.
As in you shouldn't wear that helmet/shield while jousting, but not going to give it a 1/10 because it could have happened. Instead he says what is wrong, why it is wrong, and judges the piece as a whole, not that one detail.
@@yunofun You summed it up nicely! You have to look at it and criticize it as whole in the context of the movie or whatever content you're asked to evaluate.
I also would add that some of them focus too much on realism and forget that probably the filmmakers purposely ditched realism for a certain scene just to make it look cool and exiting in front of the camera, so I really appreciate someone who understands that, and always considers nuances before judging.
Next up; dreadlocks expert rates various experts' hair.
So awesome that people keep historical realism alive. I really want to start being a part of recreating these eras. I've bought some weapons and now want to start buying the clothing and light armor and joining guys like this.
I've never met him, but he's a legend, and justifiably so. The only thing I wold criticize is more in the scope of the video itself. Horsed combat is a truly huge and really fascinating subject. Shane Adams could easily reel of a hundred entertaining hours or more merely within his own specialty, but even more there a few hints at some of the vast areas not even touched on in the video.
The scene from John Wick, I am told, was inspired by the native American horse warriors, who rode rings around the professional military forces. The use of the horse as cover is obvious, less obvious was that sometimes that horse was chased for long seconds before the white guy realized the warrior was gone, off to surprise his squad mate, and him drawn away. Their inventive tactics and theleticism coupled with incredible skill was never equalled, unless by the mongols, and other steppe peoples, who invented the stirrup and made heavy lance combat possible at all. Two huge subjects there, and then a third. I said, 'heavy lance'.... But the earliest lances, and the last to become obsolete were six -8 foot slender straight grained spears, designed for strength and flexibility, with wickedly sharp points. In complete contrast to the heavy lance, these were always used with a thrust, and thus could at the last instant be redirected anywhere. After a charge, lancers would fence with their lance, much as a rapier swordsman night with a sword, and the skills of lancers were legendary. Many of the best came from India, and in fact the British subjugated at least one country to the empire largely to co-opt their nearly invincible regiments of lancers. The light lance is a more subtle and less spectacular way to fight than the heavy, but as gunpowder made even the heaviest armour obsolete, jousting became a relic, no heavy armoured horsemen took the field once a single sunstone could knock them from the saddle dead as a doornail a hundred yards away. The heavies adjusted to the crossbow, to the vicious welsh longbows, the cunning pit traps, but the gun proved too much. There are those who believe we stand at the brink of another such change: That the modern main battle tank, the direct heir of the heavy armoured lancer, is now too vulnerable to the modern gunstone, the missile. It remains to be seen. Great video.
Damn man you really like jousting / medieval weaponry.
@@demeter-the-great You know, honestly I was always far more interested in foot combat, both professionally in my youth, and then as a hobby. Horses are thin on the ground these days, during a fight, but there is so much more to martial arts than the flashy Chinese opera stuff and whatever is most fashionable in MMA at the moment. Europe was fulll of warriors for thousands of years creating and honing combat techniques that somehow nobody bothered to record in depth when guns made it all obsolete for warfare. Why that happened in parts of Asia but not most of Europe is a mystery and a great loss.
When are we gonna get "the queen rates royal scenes"?
love his hair his personality his thought process! i want more of him! :D thanks for having him on
I was waiting for Antonio Panderas in th3 original Zorro film. I loved his horse riding scenes since I was a kid in the 90s, but his comment on the Mongolian flip had it close enough. Great video sir
This guy rocks! Very informative, crazy (in a good way), clearly wonderfully nerdy and so much fun to listen to. More please! :)
I'd have to say that the best nerds are the people who can actually do the things that their fandom values. I mean, who wouldn't want a Dungeon Master who could give accurate Medieval tavern fare? Or a "Lord of the Rings" fanatic who can actually make good jewelry, or a "Dark Souls" geek who can forge weapons?
When he actually looks like a medieval old man of the Lord of the Rings, you can trust him
He has the face of a modern bald guy... I guess jousting makes you happy enough to not loose your hair. Such a happy camper. I just fed from his enthusiasm. Love this video. Great video! I am going to go about my day now "riding" this feeling! 😁👍 I'll let myself out. 🤣
I like that he brought gear with him and explained so much about it. Learned a lot from this guy, and sure could learn alot more!
Didn't expect to see Shane Adams here. I Remember seeing a short documentary about his jousting team. I hope they bring this sport back one day 😎
If they used modern materials they could make it way safer. But that new battle arena league with actual weapons never really took off though that I know of. I think these types of sports have a very niche audience like fencing, that sport is so hard to watch as a spectator.
@@EricHamm maybe eye and neck protection
I think the cost of armor and horse kept most potential jousters out of the event! A competitive, well-trained horse would start at $10,000, plus $300 to $400 per month for vet, feed and stabling. Proper tack could cost another $2,000. Plus, the horse would have to be worked with almost daily, and the actual knights would need to spend hours learning everything required to compete!
Historically, knights were trained almost from birth -- they were the upper echelon military officers who spent every minute learning battle skills and tactics. It wasn't cheap and it wasn't easy; they were expected to capture an enemy knight in battle and hold him until the family paid ransom to get him released, which would help reimburse the winning knight's father for money spent to educate his son.
Some of the knights became good friends with those they captured, and considered them brothers. The fathers discouraged it because the ransomed knight might not be eager to head back to his home country. Some "captives" preferred to remain with their former enemies' family -- it wasn't unheard of for them to even marry their captor's sister!
Good times.
@@krisaaron5771 Marrying sister who's brother captured you is kinda funny 😆 I didn't realize , how expensive it would be to joust. I thought you could be set with 1-3k horse and 1-2k armor. But yeah you have to train and horse must be trained also.
@@mrdato116 Back then, finding a suitable husband or wife wasn't easy (no internet, no bars where women could hang out). A LOT of flirting went on whenever an acceptable mate was in the area, and your brother's buddies were fair game!! (the buddies knew that and if the sister was cute they visited frequently)
Knights were all from the economic upper-classes, and even the son of the king's wealthy, powerful enemy was more acceptable to the girls' fathers than a boy from the neighborhood whose parents were tradespeople or servants.
I desperately wanted a Percheron draft horse -- they're sweet, gentle and big teddy bears! But then I learned that they cost almost double for feed, shoeing and vet care than what a standard-size horse costs!!
The suit of armor has to be custom-made, and an authentic suit weighs around 100 lbs. so you'll need a BIG horse that can handle the additional weight (I just wanted the horse).
“Stay on your horse” spoken like a true trainer
I really enjoyed this video, he seems like an immensely likeable and knowledgeable guy, could have listened to him for an hour
"I'm a total GoT geek."
"The Hound's lance."
Hahahaha! " How does it feel to come of your horse? Flying through the air is easy, its the sudden stop when you land thats devestating" I think of Douglas Adams perfect explenation of how to fly. Just fall and miss the ground...
Can we get this guy to review the cavalry charge in Return of the King?
It’s basically the same deal as the one at the end of the Battle of Helm’s Deep. The orcs lost their nerve and dropped their pikes, allowing the cavalry charge to get them. Theoden is lucky orcs are mostly cowards.
I like the fact that he's explaining what's going on and what the pieces of armor do. Thank you sir
For non horse people who don't know, when he refers to a horse size in "hands" a "hand" is 4 inches and we measure from the ground to the top of the horse's withers, the tallest part of the horse's back with is above and slightly behind the shoulder. A horse that is 15 hands is 60 inches, or 5 feet tall at that point. Hope this helps if your not around horses all the time.
Judging by what he's saying, he's giving quite a high numerical rating. Every time he describes the scene I think he's going to give a rating that's 2-3 points lower than what he actually gave :O
I wonder if he judged the scenes based on his horsemanship skills and historical knowledge? He saw things I never would have noticed -- fascinating to hear him give details those of us in the 21st century would have otherwise missed!
Another great expert, thank you for these videos!
I love history and have studied it pretty extensively yet today I learnt what 'list' meant. I thought when they said things like 'Daemon will be there, he can't avoid the lists' they meant the 'list' of knights competing, rather than the wood dividing them. Thank you! This guy is amazing. Love his passion.
Shane I loved watching you in this video! I am the Templar that goes to the Ohio Renaissance Festival.
You are incredible for all you do with rescuing horses and every time I go I make sure that I donate as much as I can.
So a lot of very great information, but the one knit pick I have is that Stirrups definitely *existed* in the world before the battle of Hastings in 1066, they were not common Europe until the advent of Knights, but in Asia and India they existed far earlier. He is accurate that the introduction of stirrups in to England was in large part facilitated by the Norman Invasion and the battle of 1066, as the Saxons, Danes, and Celts of Britain at the time did not use much in the way of heavy cavalry.
Introduced to Europe by Atila, so after the period suggested.
I caught that as well. Continental European use is almost certainly from at least the Carolingian age. The Avars definitely used them during their conflicts with the Franks (and others) and plenty of people think Charles Martel did as well (i.e., potentially from the very beginnings of the Carolingians).
Also, it's 'nit' pick (only mentioning since it's an opportunity to nit pick the use of 'nit pick' ;)
@@BigPimp238 Yes, definitely after the Romans. Though the use of cavalry in Gladiator is super anachronistic in general (as are quite a few things - not like Ridley Scott was going for historical accuracy in a film where Commodus kills Marcus Aurelius because the latter wanted to restore the Republic :D)
@@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers you got me!
It's funny, I hate Insider.... but I'm legitimately addicted to these
He is very good as a person. Informative, not too much negativity and critique while staying true based on his experience. Please, get him, the ditch guy and Mr. Toby to be in the same video!
that would be an absolute masterpiece!!!
This is perhaps the best expert-type review of movie scenes I've ever seen!
14:06 I'm surprised he didn't mention that Mongolian archers could shoot behind them while seated normally in the saddle, making that cool turnaround move unnecessary.
It’s a Parthian shot. Lots of the Eastern Steppe peoples could do things like that since they were such superb riders.
He literally showed it on 14:37
@@satyakisil9711 He didn't talk about it, they just showed a picture. Someone uninitiated could easily miss the significance of that picture.
@@marcusclaudius266 its possible he did and they edited it out for time.
I would have loved to have seen you look at some older ones like the 1952 Ivanhoe movie and that whole tournament they shoot in that movie. Also the 1961 El Cid movie as well there are some great Jousting tournaments that you should look at.
love hearing from him! such a unique and fascinating perspective.
Most entertaining video I have seen about movies for a long one
Surprising that he didn't mention (or it got edited out) that in addition to people dying in chariot races, one of the stuntmen in Ben Hurr also died making that stunt...
In regards to the Keanu scene, it makes me think of the book “Empire of the Summer Moon.” In true historical fashion, the Comanche tribe members were capable of straddling their bareback horses to the side to launch arrows from their bows during combat. Tragic (and rather recent) history but fascinating skill; I highly recommended the book.
Absolutely love this book. It's phenomenal! Heartbreaking and moving and brutal
There needs to be a part 2 with this guy. He's great.
Great vid! Thanks :)
In Mulan the archers do not use thumb-release , but the western foot-archer style 3 finger release. But the modern Hungarian horse archery school uses that too...
i watched gladiator like 100 times and it's the very first time that i realise this guy 3:48 isn't Russel Crowe.
Huge game of thrones fan, yet called the mountain, the hound 😂 nevertheless a great video
I don’t envy the Mountain’s horse.
@@evilsharkey8954 2:34 “the hounds lance”
@@derrickhammond7791 I know what you’re talking about. I still wouldn’t want to be the horse carrying around a fully armored Gregor Clegane.
@@evilsharkey8954 I would unalive myself as that horse
Thank you for the Battlestar Galactica cylon reference, lol. Made my morning ;)
Loved this interview. Guy seemed to know his stuff.
Perhaps one of the reasons the 'Ben Hur' scenes were done so well inspite of no 'green screen' tech was because there was also no Humane Society type watch-dogs at that time; over 100 horses died during the making of that movie.
Regulations in general were almost non-existent at the time. That allowed for stunts you'd NEVER get away with nowadays.
unnecesseray death suck, but to be honnest if we dont need animal, they arent rise train or simply nobody want them born at all,...so its a good thing they die after doing a long career. because if theres no job for them, theres no life and no death either for them.
in France theres around 1million horse actually, 40%riding, 25%poney, 16%race 9%work etc..... a small portion of how many equidae were at the start of the 1900 century. the engine and wheel replaced them, if you forbidde race, there wont be race horse anymore,...same goes for movie industry, or other live stock, if we dont need them, they wont exist anymore, because the wild is something who doesnt exist in many place, savage cattle herd doesnt exist, they are all in ferm.
@@eriklerougeuh5772 It almost sounds as if you are saying that what happened during the filming of those films like 'Ben Hur' added greater meaning to the lives of those horses even if it resulted in them meeting a 'rough' end. If so, then what of the horses' pain that occurs after they crash, break their legs and then languish in suffering before they are 'put down'? Has it no meaning to you or is the utility of their 'purpose served' more important?
@@KPC-123 It almost sounds as if you accusing people of things they clearly didn't say.
@@brobmiller8384 If that is the case then I apologize for getting it wrong.....
Great breakdowns loved it. Wished the had Arnold riding the horse in True Lies because you know he would have given that horse a 10 when it realized Arnold wanted to jump to the next building and stopped dead flipping Arnold off its back.
Got to see the Knights of Valor back in 2017- whole tournament was wonderful, including a double-unhorsing. Hope to see another show someday, it's such an invigorating sport to witness.
This is very interesting!! I'm going have to remember to look for this next time I have more time.
this guy is awesome. definitely want more of him. also i think the lances in The Duel didn’t have coronels because it was a duel to the death so ya know. stabby was okay.
I believe his point was they should have had sharpened cornels so they are more dangerous rather than just the bare shaft
Jarrod Bright ahhh that makes more sense for sure. good point. thank you!
It's kind funny, in a way, that he mentioned chariot racing and people dieing in them because one of the chariot drivers actually died filming that scene. Not only that, they actually kept that scene in the final cut of the film.
That was just great to watch. So much information
A proper expert!
Knowledge, experience and well spoken, keep it coming :)
(Though...he missed a lot of nuisance in the GoT scene, the gear on the knight from the Vale...was somewhat intentional.)
Damn if there was a “look” for a medieval tournament jouster, this guy is it ! Absolute legend