21:00 This is actually a pretty big change especially early game because if your humming bird got sniped then you'd lose the buff. This gives it to you for the rest of combat and makes humming bird much more worth taking
Salty Looter "summon" counts cycling Pirates as well. So it works for both APM and Summon Pirates. Idk when youd really want this for summon Pirates, but sounds nice for APM pirates since it works preemptively. Its a good mutanus target and good target to taunt because of how aura effects work with bramblewitch.
It could be similar to the quest reward (I forget the name) that occasionally gives a helpful refresh, like getting all tier 6s, or all buddies, or one of the minions is golden, etc. when you roll. Except the roll sometimes gives an extra Surprise Elemental.
@@AllToastersToastToast i think is more like the pirate greater trinket no? (eye patch one i dont remember the name exactly) it make more sense tribe wise
@@dark_zero0848 Yeah, that’s true. I may have worded it poorly, but what I meant was just to present my own wild guess (that it could randomly be refreshed in the shop). I agree though; your idea is interesting as a Designer Eyepatch-esque trinket.
16:40 This with eye of sargeras looks like they wanna enable some more apm demons, cycling cheap tavern spells to get demons that cost health which also makes your next tavern spell cheaper
Fun stuff, scary though. Still blown away by some of the trinket disparity--cost just isnmt a real balance excuse for some of the unplayable late game trinkets
I was so far behind in the making for this video as I was mid edit for the Demon guide, and bam this hit! Then after doing all the edits, and it was ready I FORGOT to hit post for a hour. I wish I knew this information prior to release so I could have it out faster!
I should just follow you already... thanks so much for this video man. I hate blizz so much that after all this time they still post patch notes like a treasure hunt. Minion changes , because ofc I know exactly what changed with JUST THE NEW things. Same for only the names of all going out and coming back in, man, I am a casual player, I don't know all these cards by heart
Yeah they can be tough. Even the website they officially have for minions/heroes/trinkets itself is full of errors, and old information. But hey! That means I have a niche!
You know what might be interesting? A guide done Heretic721 style on Hero power/Trinket synergies and combos. I see some crazy combos at higher elos that blow my mind. I would love to see a break down of how to get some of these wombo combos going
he has already done that... in his videos, where he is discussing the different tribes, there is a small section on heroes which and how thes synergize with that tribe/ build.... just check out his older videos. and remember, heretic just reached 6k that week :D :D better/indeptht content has just mr max mmr jeef, but he isnt uploading that often
It is a thought, and I like the idea. I am always just so far behind on the tribe guides. This new format takes significantly longer then my previous one!
@@Heretic721 I checked your twitch video from 21hours ago again, and it says u just got 6k... maybe alt acc... but I also have problems, peaked 6,4k and went straight down again... mostly due to my crazy love to strike oil
While Sellemental is obviously better, the Dragon isn’t terrible. It’s a much needed attempt at an economy unit in Dragons. It’s definitely going to see play, and you’ll have little reason not to at least buy it if you’re playing Dragons.
If you sell both its a slightly better pointy arrow. No way thats worth it when you should at worst be looking for better or not commiting to dragons that early anyway
@@Tatercon well you don’t just unconditionally buy this without synergy, of course, but with Battlecry or Dragon Buff synergy you’d definitely be more interested in it.
i dont see it. i think kalcgos dragons is dead, you need such a perfect setup to start.... btw, a discover battlecry(BC) like the 4* elemental is much better, you get one bc and 3 minions to sell again(with brann) with taht dragon you just get a bc and just 2 minions, so its just worse. dragons nowadays is played with persisent poet(4* divine shield dragon, where adjacent dragons keep combat buffs) - many of them, one 5* make dragon golden, one divine shield give dragon and the trinkets, where in combat, the first dead minion give its stats to 2 minions on board. you dont even need ANY 6* dragon. Posioniong is "extrahard" but then u can be afk and roll for more poets
Grear video as usual. Thanks for the info. Really glad the frog is gone! I'm not a fan of the sky pirate trinket... i just want to play my full turns. It's also nice to see that they aknowledged that menagerie couldn't win any lobby.
Hummingbird - unless I'm wrong, the start of combat giving your minions you summon the attack even if the bird is killed off? Feels that way? In which case that's quite a buff tbh
Am I missing something? Is diving shield on an undead super valuable? Or is Colossus of the Sun a bafflingly terrible tier 6? It looks like a misprint seeing it there.
@@Heretic721 Yeah... that's probably why my question was 'What am I missing?' instead of 'Does anyone like this?'. You could have at least elaborated on what play-style he fits.
Quite a significant update. With pirates, everything is still weird. Exodia became stronger and that's it... Pirates are not given any other options. Why do you think that Colossus of the Sun is a bad 6? It is potentially 4 hits. If you managed to raise the attack of the undead, then it is better than Eternal Summoner, isn't it?
i hate colossus. Im no undead pro, but when i play undead, its always summon absed with baron in tha back to summon more. Also buffing the attack of undead is hard without baron, you either need many minions to die(so need baron formore deathrattle summons) or do it with taven spells, but how you want to get to 100 atk with spells? so you end up with a baron/deathrattle board. And colossus dying is less dead bodies for more attack scaling. but its a nice tempo card, if all the other options are bad
With a full board and Revinder, Eternal Summoner will not always split better than just 2 knights. While Colossus always takes up one place, allowing other cards to open up better. Summoner will be better if it was not possible to significantly pump up the attack, then you can go to a build on knights. But with a high attack, it is much better to have a board of cards like Colossus and Handless Forsaken. Colossus is a card for the final tables, not for pumping up the attack in the middle of the game.
I prefer Summoner, and Kel'Thuzad for triples/making more summoners. I do not want Ghoul-a-cabra unless I get it silly early, and even then that game is usually a loss. While the Colossus is a solid unit that does not take up much space. I prefer the self scaling of the Knights. There is nothing wrong with it when you have scaled your Army of the Undead up, but I still rather usually have the Eternal Summoner since taking a buffed attack in mind it is still better when coupled with that attack, and the Knights scaling.
I rather like colossus. as with the minion that destroys an undead to get a plain copy of it (and, late-game, Kel'thuzad) there may be a plausible chance for non-token undead to have a few moments here and there. Tokens will remain the cream of the crop but it's BORING (and combat takes ages to resolve).
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This is my go to channel for Hearthstone Battlegrounds 100%. The reason is videos like this. Thank you so much Heretic!
21:00 This is actually a pretty big change especially early game because if your humming bird got sniped then you'd lose the buff. This gives it to you for the rest of combat and makes humming bird much more worth taking
great video, and I really appreciate seeing the minion pictures for new/leaving minions.
Salty Looter "summon" counts cycling Pirates as well. So it works for both APM and Summon Pirates.
Idk when youd really want this for summon Pirates, but sounds nice for APM pirates since it works preemptively. Its a good mutanus target and good target to taunt because of how aura effects work with bramblewitch.
Summon Pirates could use it as a shock absorber, so you can get your Cruise Controller to do its work.
i have a wild guess for the surprise portrait, maybe when u buy a pair of elemental, it make sense to be like that in my opinion
Like zephrys HP but it also gives everything divine shield
It could be similar to the quest reward (I forget the name) that occasionally gives a helpful refresh, like getting all tier 6s, or all buddies, or one of the minions is golden, etc. when you roll. Except the roll sometimes gives an extra Surprise Elemental.
@@AllToastersToastToast i think is more like the pirate greater trinket no? (eye patch one i dont remember the name exactly) it make more sense tribe wise
@@dark_zero0848 Yeah, that’s true. I may have worded it poorly, but what I meant was just to present my own wild guess (that it could randomly be refreshed in the shop). I agree though; your idea is interesting as a Designer Eyepatch-esque trinket.
I think it’s just random like Kadgars wisdomball.
16:40 This with eye of sargeras looks like they wanna enable some more apm demons, cycling cheap tavern spells to get demons that cost health which also makes your next tavern spell cheaper
Fun stuff, scary though. Still blown away by some of the trinket disparity--cost just isnmt a real balance excuse for some of the unplayable late game trinkets
I was waiting for this video!
I was so far behind in the making for this video as I was mid edit for the Demon guide, and bam this hit! Then after doing all the edits, and it was ready I FORGOT to hit post for a hour. I wish I knew this information prior to release so I could have it out faster!
I should just follow you already... thanks so much for this video man. I hate blizz so much that after all this time they still post patch notes like a treasure hunt. Minion changes , because ofc I know exactly what changed with JUST THE NEW things. Same for only the names of all going out and coming back in, man, I am a casual player, I don't know all these cards by heart
Yeah they can be tough. Even the website they officially have for minions/heroes/trinkets itself is full of errors, and old information. But hey! That means I have a niche!
yeah, best educational hs bg in town, love u
The fact that faceless manipulator is a tier 7 minion..... omg the fishing rod is going to be an auto pick!
yeah but he probably wont be part of the T7 pool tho
As always THANK YOU for putting pictures of the minions, not like hearthstone that just put the names!
Humming bird's buff now also make +2 Attack stays if bird dies.
Yeah, way better
@@chrismccolm9341doesn't work on summons tho, not as toxic
@@SapereAude625works on summons. "Your beast have", not "give your beasts".
Works like goldrinn
That is true! I had not thought of it in that manner. Much better!
Magic Road Sign will very likely be nerfed to "... first plain cost minion" very quickly.
You know what might be interesting? A guide done Heretic721 style on Hero power/Trinket synergies and combos. I see some crazy combos at higher elos that blow my mind. I would love to see a break down of how to get some of these wombo combos going
he has already done that... in his videos, where he is discussing the different tribes, there is a small section on heroes which and how thes synergize with that tribe/ build.... just check out his older videos.
and remember, heretic just reached 6k that week :D :D
better/indeptht content has just mr max mmr jeef, but he isnt uploading that often
Wait I reached 6k what week? I was 8k in a couple of weeks of the meta's patch release.
It is a thought, and I like the idea. I am always just so far behind on the tribe guides. This new format takes significantly longer then my previous one!
@@Heretic721 I checked your twitch video from 21hours ago again, and it says u just got 6k... maybe alt acc...
but I also have problems, peaked 6,4k and went straight down again... mostly due to my crazy love to strike oil
@@sepprotzfrech93 hehe it is the same account, but when I am want to just mess around, and tired of the grind I switch to Europe for more fun.
While Sellemental is obviously better, the Dragon isn’t terrible. It’s a much needed attempt at an economy unit in Dragons. It’s definitely going to see play, and you’ll have little reason not to at least buy it if you’re playing Dragons.
If you sell both its a slightly better pointy arrow. No way thats worth it when you should at worst be looking for better or not commiting to dragons that early anyway
@@Tatercon well you don’t just unconditionally buy this without synergy, of course, but with Battlecry or Dragon Buff synergy you’d definitely be more interested in it.
i dont see it.
i think kalcgos dragons is dead, you need such a perfect setup to start....
btw, a discover battlecry(BC) like the 4* elemental is much better, you get one bc and 3 minions to sell again(with brann)
with taht dragon you just get a bc and just 2 minions, so its just worse.
dragons nowadays is played with persisent poet(4* divine shield dragon, where adjacent dragons keep combat buffs) - many of them, one 5* make dragon golden, one divine shield give dragon and the trinkets, where in combat, the first dead minion give its stats to 2 minions on board. you dont even need ANY 6* dragon. Posioniong is "extrahard" but then u can be afk and roll for more poets
Grear video as usual. Thanks for the info.
Really glad the frog is gone!
I'm not a fan of the sky pirate trinket... i just want to play my full turns.
It's also nice to see that they aknowledged that menagerie couldn't win any lobby.
just used putrid pupil. it isnt bad as a filler card
Hummingbird - unless I'm wrong, the start of combat giving your minions you summon the attack even if the bird is killed off? Feels that way? In which case that's quite a buff tbh
Summons dont get buffed if its start of combat
@@Taterconits "your beasts have", not "give your beasts".
Have means it affects summons
Another great update 👍
wont slippery sliders be really good with a naala build??
Bird Buddy just made lasher attack scaling good again
Am I missing something? Is diving shield on an undead super valuable? Or is Colossus of the Sun a bafflingly terrible tier 6? It looks like a misprint seeing it there.
He is a love hate minion. Either you think he is great, and fits your play style, or he is meh then you wonder why people like him.
@@Heretic721 Yeah... that's probably why my question was 'What am I missing?' instead of 'Does anyone like this?'. You could have at least elaborated on what play-style he fits.
Orc estra just need to target ally stuff, so we can use the tier 6 murloc and the beast to repeat the battlecry
Combine that "play a non Naga" with the trinket that when you discard you play a blood gem on everything
right? you could literally just go a battlecry build with that
Quite a significant update.
With pirates, everything is still weird. Exodia became stronger and that's it... Pirates are not given any other options.
Why do you think that Colossus of the Sun is a bad 6? It is potentially 4 hits. If you managed to raise the attack of the undead, then it is better than Eternal Summoner, isn't it?
Eternal Summoner gives you minions that scale themselves on a death rattle, which can scale more with Baron
i hate colossus. Im no undead pro, but when i play undead, its always summon absed with baron in tha back to summon more. Also buffing the attack of undead is hard without baron, you either need many minions to die(so need baron formore deathrattle summons) or do it with taven spells, but how you want to get to 100 atk with spells?
so you end up with a baron/deathrattle board. And colossus dying is less dead bodies for more attack scaling.
but its a nice tempo card, if all the other options are bad
With a full board and Revinder, Eternal Summoner will not always split better than just 2 knights. While Colossus always takes up one place, allowing other cards to open up better. Summoner will be better if it was not possible to significantly pump up the attack, then you can go to a build on knights. But with a high attack, it is much better to have a board of cards like Colossus and Handless Forsaken.
Colossus is a card for the final tables, not for pumping up the attack in the middle of the game.
I prefer Summoner, and Kel'Thuzad for triples/making more summoners. I do not want Ghoul-a-cabra unless I get it silly early, and even then that game is usually a loss. While the Colossus is a solid unit that does not take up much space. I prefer the self scaling of the Knights. There is nothing wrong with it when you have scaled your Army of the Undead up, but I still rather usually have the Eternal Summoner since taking a buffed attack in mind it is still better when coupled with that attack, and the Knights scaling.
thanks
I can't be the only one that audibly went WHAT to the goose trinket right?
i feel like goldrinn build is like insanely strong now LMAO
Blizzard is sleeping so hard on uprising content creators
Losing Scarlet Skull feels wrong 😢
right its such a good early game minion for undead :
I rather like colossus. as with the minion that destroys an undead to get a plain copy of it (and, late-game, Kel'thuzad) there may be a plausible chance for non-token undead to have a few moments here and there. Tokens will remain the cream of the crop but it's BORING (and combat takes ages to resolve).