The biggest advantage of this bike over BMW, KTM, Triumph, Ducati etc., is that it's a Honda - it will not be seen on the back of recovery truck. It's quality and an absolute trustworthiness. And it sounds gorgeous with standard exhaust. And it goes like clappers. And I love this bike😍
well, those bikes are so bad that people choose them over Hondas. Only seen an africa twin once where i live, but i see all of those worthless bikes every day. Have you sat on an africa twin? it's like an elephant and you must be at least 190 and power lifter to control the chunk. No soul, no character and the sound is just exhaust.
@@ampm9771 I'm 197 cm, rode the new Africa and loved it. If anything, I wouldn't mind if she was a little taller. Sublime suspension, perfect handling, great brakes and gorgeous, grunty engine. Sounds absolutely fantastic even on standard exhaust. I appreciate your comment on Tenere 700, but they're not in the same league. If you say Tenere 1200 - oh yea, bring it on. But 700 - meh...
@@wojciechkosiorowski5008 Same here and it didn't have the ES Electronic suspension. So my choice is CRF 1100 Adventure Sport Manual Plus (Panniers, spot lights, centre stand etc) My mother lives in France so a 500 mile trip each way - Ideal for that.
Amir Rad You must be a very small framed human. Nothing about this bike is like an elephant. And nothing the Japanese make has a soul, nothing new there. But it will get you home!
I agree with you: Honda has made a very good job! What i also like very much, is the soothing sound. The motor never sounds overwhelmed. Thank you for this video and i wish you a happy 2020.
It's never going to be overwhelemed when it's producing about 20-25 hp less than it should have. I have a 2018 Africa Twin Adventure Sports, and I love so many things about it - but the engine should have been more powerful. If this new model had a proper output like 120-130 hp, I would have traded mine in, in a heartbeat. As it stands, I'm probably getting a KTM 1290 Super Adventure instead. Having a passenger on an AT is almost torture, because it's so damn slow. It's much better solo, but I still miss more power on the tarmac.
I rode the base 2020 AT three weeks ago and it was spectacularly good. Really torquey engine and great handling. Everything else on the road moved like it was stuck in treacle. I would like to try the DCT and I would prefer a road variant but I can’t afford it. Maybe the rumoured mid-range model for next year will be a bit more affordable and a tad lighter. If I had the money I would grab a this bike in DCT, no question! Thanks for the considered review. Nice work, well scripted and shot with an easy pace. Subbed!
Since I'm planning to buy this bike in 2022...I was searching videos in TH-cam And I saw many & many videos Bt yours was the best review I cud find Even if it was 2 years later Thanks Too gud review
Thanks for the great review! I like the black color too, so many praises about the blue white red color option but I prefer this one, simple and classy
I think Honda has made very good job. This is what I was dreaming about and even more, so have to change my not old Africa to new Africa again for this damn good highest model. Man lives only once, but sometimes even not whole.
Fantastic video!Ordered mine last week and i cant wait for her to arrive in 2 weeks.it's the tricolour AS ES manual.Will be my first liter bike so i expect to experience something special.Time will tell.
@@fraserhouchen901 it went really bad man.I had to cancel my order after 3 months of non stop delays and lies from the dealer and things turned ugly....I was lucky enough to take back my initial deposit and i bought myself the R1250 GS.Check it on my channel.
As always, an excellent review. I currently have a triumph tiger 1200 xca 2018 but after yesterday's ride this AF I am in love with this motorcycle. The DCT version is excellent. To replace the windshield with a little bit wider and the motorcycle is perfect.
Current 2019 models are $3-4K under suggested retail price. Same for 2018 models around Oct 2018. I hope they have some discounts and not have to wait until Nov 2020 for a $3000 off suggested retail. Money saved can be used for accessories. Great Review!
i dont mean to be so off topic but does someone know of a way to get back into an Instagram account?? I stupidly lost my login password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me!
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I like ur review very poised and very calm not in any hurry .....like u were enjoying every chunks of a meal ...... Nice one Mr. .....and about Honda .....u will never disappoint by the Honda 👍👍
I want that bike!! The metallic black with the gold wheels looks gorgeous, great value, awesome performance, all the tech... what more could you ask for!
After 50 I think it is the right bike for me, the DCT model makes it a relaxing and perfect ride. I hope in august this will be my new partner for my Spain Portugal trip ;)
I really enjoyed your review. I've been watching other videos on this bike. I liked the way you elaborated on the details and features of this bike. Very confidence inspiring. I'm hoping this will be my next bike thanks to your critique.
How is the wind protection at modest super-slab speeds of 70 mph/110 kph? How does it compare to the GS/GSA? I don't know about others around the world, but in the US to get anywhere many hours is spent on boring roads just trying to get to the preferred roads (scenery, etc.). Great video btw, super quality, and beautiful surroundings, including the architecture.
Great review as always, delivered in your unique style. I really think Honda are on to a winner here. Have a great Christmas from one of your senior subscribers.
4 thumbs up for this reviewer and review - I bought the same bike but without ES - Absolutely love it and got a great deal on one with panniers and extras ;-)
I have the VFR800X Crossrunner right now, last "touring" trail on Honda's catalogue. Too bad they focus on the Africa Twin only... Where is the Tiger 900 GT/Tracer900GT/F900XR alternative at Honda? They'll lose a loyal customer... And i'm not alone.
Lost me -I upgraded from a Honda LAMS/A2 bike to a KTM 790 Adv. I was looking for a middleweight bike with modern electronic rider aids and vacillating between a sport tourer or an ADV. But Honda don't have a convincing option in either category. The VFR800F and NC750X were nice enough bikes when they came out, but just don't cut it now. If they'd brought out a more up-to-date mid-sized VFR or a Trans Alp for 2020 I'd have been begging them to take my money for either one.
Yea, agreed, Honda needs two version of the Africa Twin, a 1200 and 900! 900 being the off-road focus and the 1200 being the touring version, now that'd be perfect.
According to recent news they are going to make a mid range AT for next year using a bigger NC engine. A lot of people think that will be too slow though. If Honda can give the engine more power and preserve some of the economy of the NC then they could have a winner. Especially with a better chassis, suspension and brakes than the NC.
Great review as always Scott, thanks. I’ve never really liked the look of any adventure bikes. Bit gawky, function over form. But the Husqvarna Norden 901 will change that; first adventure bike that also looks good IMHO. Merry Christmas and a safe new year to you and your family Scott.
Hi great review ,but no talk of DCT . I have the new Goldwing and have been waiting for a smaller lighter touring bike as good as Goldwing for technology, ride and DCT so bought this last week, the DCT ES with plus pack . ( not got pack yet as a problem with the welds apparently, all gone back to chad for remake) It’s fantastic and would genuinely never bother with a manual clutch again on any bike . Honda really have smashed it again and are definitely making the other big boys look dated . I tested the new GS 1250 and hated the ride and lack of finesse. I have had bmw in past and think they really need to up there game to get anywhere near Honda at the moment . One other thing the plus pack puts the cost at £20535 so there’s not any savings on fully loaded GS ! But far better bike by a country mile love it . Thanks again. Jonathan
Thank you but here is where I talk about DCT, I've done two Hondas with DCT: th-cam.com/video/INXMReTw1JM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/DF-3BweCyiQ/w-d-xo.html
You are in Germany and your English is amazing.I do not know your story but, did you move from the states to Germany? Considering picking up either this or the Super tenere. For me and the wife to get off-road on.We also ride a 2019 Super Duke R.
Hi, yea, I'm from the States and live in Germany now. One thing to consider about the Super Tenere, is that it's really not for off-road. If you are going to do light trail for example that is fine but anything more than that I would not want to do it on the Yamaha ST. This bike would be better for doing both on and off-road. Ride safe, Scott
@@NothingToProve Great reviews you do. Based on a lot of your insight, I purchased a brand new 2019 Honda Nc750S with DCT and LOVE IT! Loved my Moto Guzzi V7, but needed a change. Thanks for your review on that Honda 750 DCT you did. Just curious, you sound Canadian, but living in Germany obviously. I am Canadian myself living in London UK for many years. As said, just curious, and again, keep up the delightful and useful reviews! Jim
Not Canadian but close, I'm from Michigan, I grew up knowing a few Canadian's and doing some fishing/canoe trips up there in Ontario and one of my best hunting buds was from Manitoba, he now lives permanently in Michigan (he married a Michigan girl that I introduced him too) but still today (30 years later) he has a very heavy Canadian accent...he's funny. That's probably what you hear in my accent but now it's evolving even more talking with all the Germans here in Germany for the last few years. Sometimes in my videos I'll say the German word instead of the English word...if you pay attention :) Take care, Scott
NothingToProve Ha ha thanks for your reply! It is indeed a small world! I grew up in Saskatchewan but lived mainly in British Columbia and Ontario. Been to Michigan many many times! Lived in London since 1996 but love it here! Perhaps someday if my son and I are riding through Germany on our way to Cyprus, will have to look you up for a quick ride! Again, all the best, happy New Year, thank you for the terrific reviews, and safe riding! Love the catchphrase "nothing to prove" it's excellent and so true. Why didn't you tell me that when I was 21?😄 Jim
@@honeniheixiu8119 I have the 2019 Adventure Sports, I am only 5'9 with a '30 inch inseam. I thought it was too tall at first. But I have grown accustomed to it. And now I love it.
An 850cc version is coming in 2021. Well that is the rumor leaked from Honda "insiders" what ever the term "insiders" means. Who cares, at least we'll be getting a middleweight ADV from Honda!
I've had several shaft drive bike's and NEVER had a problem with reliability!! But on a bike that you can supposedly go to the farthest reaches of man! Perhaps finding or carrying master link's and chain/sprockets is easier....from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe
@@travelinben1966 That’s the decision facing me: the AT or the S10. Unfortunately the S10 is probably in it’s final year to be offered in the US, and it is already gone from Europe and the UK.
@@bukweet I’m surprised since the S10 is a great bike.Might be able to get a great deal on any remaining ones.There’s also the Moto Guzzi V85 TT that’s worth a look, or a Honda VRF 1200x.New 2017 models can still be had I’m told.
Thank you for the review and hope all is well Scott. Would you choose Africa Adventure 1100 ES or BMW 850 GSA for mainly touring ang some light offroading. Both have the same price tags in my jurisdiction and I will purchase with high seat 890 mm option. I am 195 cm and unfortunately test bikes are not available due to Covid 19 restrictions. I am going back and forth between two bikes.
I really enjoyed your review. It felt like you were talking to one person or a buddy rather than an audience. I have a 2018 Goldwing DCT tour and love it. However, after watching a lot of the Backroad Discovery videos, I want to eventually get an adventure bike. Do you ever do a video testing these bikes on dirt roads or BDR trails?
Thanks Steve. No I don't do roads like that yet, My channel is simply not big enough for an OEM to give me a bike for a few weeks or even a few days to shoot a video like that. Maybe in a few years when I get bigger :) Ride safe, Scott
Dear Scott" IAM Planning to Buy a Adventure Bike" So Which will be A Great Choice Africa twin or Bmw R1250gs on Price terms Africa twin is 30% Lower Than R1250Gs and Also Honda Assembly the Bike in India* but Where as Gs Comes As Fully Made in Their Bavarias Own House Germany.
What an amazing review! And motorcycle too! Have to ask you to compare with the big boys ktm 1290 SAS and bmw 1250gs. I know it's different but is it more suitable for communting and tour? How about the twisties? Finally would you go for the dct? Thanks! Love your channel!
Hi again! DCT, YES! I love the DCT that Honda makes. It is almost perfect. Commuting and touring is what this version was built for...and yes it is very good at it...just like the 1250 & 1290. It just comes down to a matter of what your heart wants. Twisties, this is probably a little bit slower than the 1250/1290SAS because of the 21" front on the Honda. But with that said they are close but I feel like I could do corners faster on the other two vs. this. Merry Christmas, Scott
Thank you. The DCT is worth it, imho, but the question is do you want it and will you use it. That is the question that you have to ask yourself and if the answer is "yes & all the time" then it's worth it but if the answer is "I'm not sure or just some of the time" then it's probably not worth it. Ride safe, Scott
All of these bikes today are fantastic. BUT, if you're like me and decide you don't want to deal with a chain drive bike, that narrows your choices considerably. So what's out there? The GS, the Guzzi, the Triumph, Harley (belt) on their bag bikes, and a few other Japanese standards, Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha, but these are not ADV bikes. I'm going to ride the Guzzi this week, but probably I'm landing with the GS. To me, it's still the bike of bikes. I'm not jazzed about spending 20k on it, but that's just always going to be the case when you're looking at "BMW".
I have a 1000 2015 versus is it worth while to upgrade to the Africa Twin adventure? Does the ES come with the dct? Again great review. Thankyou. Yes I am seriously considering this bike.
It's just the refresh rate of the camera is different from the TFT. No 19" option that I'm aware of. The DCT can come with either of the two AT's. Good luck!
How big of an issue or annoyance is the windscreen? Another video made a similar comment about not liking the height/ configuration of the windscreen. Great review btw, I think an AT is on the horizon for me
Not bad actually but I was on it for only one day. It might bother me day after day, week after week and that is why I said I'd cut off 2-3 inch off the top if I got it.
Great review. I love my 2020 AT. Guess less travel is for lower seat height. Right hand controls fill up if you get DCT model, hence why looks bare for your review. I used to think the LH controls were over the top ... but now I realise that they are great for when wearing thicker gloves!!! Apple Car play is awesome ( or Andriod Auot ), I use it all the time.
Great review as always. Besides not being my style of bike I could never own one anyway with a 28" inseam! Regardless I just enjoy watching good reviews on any bike. Thanks
You mentioned good job Honda for this effort. I'm not sure how to interpret that. Does that mean the bike is on par with a GSA, better than, or still has some way to go? I see less suspension travel between this version and last years. Any comments on how this bike compares to prior Adventure Sports, major leap forward, or subtle improvements? I noticed you touching the TFT screen and it not being responsive, is this an issue? It appeared to be acting sticky. Regarding the TFT, if you put up a nav app, then you have the small screen below, does that small screen display fuel range? Regarding the TFT - are you able to run apps from your android phone? Music from the phone? Have you tried the DCT version? Any comments on the difference, preference between the two, preference? Regarding the hand guards, are they fully plastic or is there some kind of aluminum support frame? Back to the TFT, I understand it cannot be operated when in motion, but while in motion can it be controlled via the switches on the left handle bar? Finally, where was this shot? Great scenery. - Thanks.
This model (2020 adventure sport) is marketed for mainly touring with some offroad. If you want the more off road model go with the standard AT. The previous year model adventure sport is slightly more off road worthy, has a better suspension than the standard. But if you want my two cents, buy used and put an ohlins front forks and rear shock, upgrade the fueling and exhaust and go conquer the world. Youre welcome.
I love the DCT on any Honda. I did do the 2019 AT DCT: th-cam.com/video/INXMReTw1JM/w-d-xo.html Check that out and I talk about the DCT and how it preforms on and off-road. Is the DCT worth it, short answer = yes. Long answer...well watch the video 😁 Ride safe, Scott
Hmm.. Very interesting. This bike takes on a different persona in the Darkness colorway. I like it a lot. Apparently you do too! It is big though. That actually makes it more attractive to me! I just wonder if there are other luggage options. 2K for those aluminum cases is too steep. That is not what I would want anyway. Definitely a bike to keep in mind. Thanks, Scott.
Yea, you should try the Versys or V-Strom or 1290SAS or and the list goes on...the GS is heavy but not top heavy unless you get the ADV and fill the tank full then it is a little.
@@NothingToProve I think I’m gonna have to wait till I pay it off to consider anything else. Would lose too much money trading it in to a dealership. And having trouble finding a buyer since I am still making payments. I got the lower seat with an inseam of 32 in and I’m 5’9 definitely tip toeing It backing it up.
Love the review, I see how you are so excited in riding the new 1100, if you don't mind, what kind of video equipment do you use for your channel reviews?
Thank you Michael, It can vary for each video, so I put the gear used in each video description, this is the gear used for this video. Video Gear: Camera A: GoPro HERO7 Black Camera B: GoPro HERO7 Black Camera C: Samsung S9 Audio A: Zoom H1n & Zoom F1 Microphone: Sony ECM-CS3
Hi Andrew, you'd have to get on a plane and fly to Germany to ride those beautiful roads. The Germans take very good care of their roads. That's probably why the taxes are so high :( Ride safe, Scott
One thing I don’t like is bikes seem to keep gaining wait. Is the “adventure sport” worth the extra (I think)14kg in weight over the standard? Especially with most of that being 6LT’s of extra gas up high. I never considered the “adventure sport” over the standard before now; only for the adjustable windscreen and tubeless wheels. Also, is the dct worth while, or stick to manual? Ideally I’m hoping they announce the cfr850l as true before I get the money saved on this (only a rumor here in Japan, but a strong rumor), but for now, “adv sport” or standard?
Well, depends on what you are doing to do, off-road or all on-road? Some off-road then the standard. But if you are going to do mostly road, then the Adv. Sports. But yea, agree with the weight, just wait for the 850 to come out next year.
@@NothingToProve thanks. I'll be 90 percent on road for sure but dont like heavy bikes. Ideally I'd stay between a 650 and 800, but in that range you need to sacrifice all the tech like criuse control. Either way, thanks for all the "real world" reviews. Your content is great and you understand that most of us wont be needing 150hp to get to Starbucks 🤣
Hi Fred, this bike did not have one, so I cannot compare it to those other bikes. But with that said the shifting on all other Honda's I've ridden have been very good, so I would imagine that it's the same on this bike. Ride safe, Scott
Thanks for your fair review Scott as always 👍👍 I have been planning to buy new AT DCT ES after Honda's launching and waiting for your review.. I can go to Honda dealer now with mind at peace ✌️
Hi Scott, could you compare in few words suspensions and engines Africa Twin 1100 and Triumph Scrambler 1200 ? Which is better on the the road and in offroad ?
Well, First: on paper - the 1200 is lighter and has more torque down low and at peak. Second: feel while riding - the weight of the 1200 felt higher and therefore felt almost as heavy as the 1100, but the torque on the 1200 was noticeably more than the 1100. Third: off-road - 1100 wins there, no question for me. Not many ADV bikes are as good as the 1100 off-road...so comparing the 1200 to it is really unfair for the 1200. Off-road for the Triumph is really an after-thought and the 1100 it's the focus and it shows. Forth: on-road - the suspensions are pretty close to being equal, both have a high turn in but are stabil in corners, so suspensions I can't really complain about either one given what they are made to do.
It's rare when a quickshifter comes standard on any bike. Usually it comes with some package or grouped with an option. And no it's not a must have for this bike, simply because the trans is so easy to do clutch-less shifts that I didn't even notice not having a quickshifter. This is one of the reasons I gave 3 thumbs up for the powertrain on this bike. Ride safe, Scott
Of course I can only give opinion on what actually exists, on the bikes that are actually at the dealerships that we can touch, feel, experience it in first hand. When the Tiger 900 gets the the dealerships I can and will do that but any thing before that is just fantasy. And just because it's 7" does not mean it's better. Only time will tell. Ride safe, Scott
Dear Scott, congratulations for this review! Really good job here! Comparing this moto with Ducati Multistrada 950 s, what’s your opinion?? These two are not exactly same bikes but cost is abt same and there two are my choices! I am in between both of them. Any reply will be appreciated! Keep the good work!
The biggest advantage of this bike over BMW, KTM, Triumph, Ducati etc., is that it's a Honda - it will not be seen on the back of recovery truck. It's quality and an absolute trustworthiness. And it sounds gorgeous with standard exhaust. And it goes like clappers. And I love this bike😍
well, those bikes are so bad that people choose them over Hondas. Only seen an africa twin once where i live, but i see all of those worthless bikes every day. Have you sat on an africa twin? it's like an elephant and you must be at least 190 and power lifter to control the chunk. No soul, no character and the sound is just exhaust.
BTW
I'd pick 700 Tenere over this sny day of the year and that's half the price!
@@ampm9771 I'm 197 cm, rode the new Africa and loved it. If anything, I wouldn't mind if she was a little taller. Sublime suspension, perfect handling, great brakes and gorgeous, grunty engine. Sounds absolutely fantastic even on standard exhaust. I appreciate your comment on Tenere 700, but they're not in the same league. If you say Tenere 1200 - oh yea, bring it on. But 700 - meh...
@@wojciechkosiorowski5008 Same here and it didn't have the ES Electronic suspension. So my choice is CRF 1100 Adventure Sport Manual Plus (Panniers, spot lights, centre stand etc) My mother lives in France so a 500 mile trip each way - Ideal for that.
Amir Rad You must be a very small framed human. Nothing about this bike is like an elephant. And nothing the Japanese make has a soul, nothing new there. But it will get you home!
I agree with you: Honda has made a very good job! What i also like very much, is the soothing sound.
The motor never sounds overwhelmed. Thank you for this video and i wish you a happy 2020.
It's never going to be overwhelemed when it's producing about 20-25 hp less than it should have. I have a 2018 Africa Twin Adventure Sports, and I love so many things about it - but the engine should have been more powerful.
If this new model had a proper output like 120-130 hp, I would have traded mine in, in a heartbeat. As it stands, I'm probably getting a KTM 1290 Super Adventure instead. Having a passenger on an AT is almost torture, because it's so damn slow. It's much better solo, but I still miss more power on the tarmac.
I rode the base 2020 AT three weeks ago and it was spectacularly good. Really torquey engine and great handling. Everything else on the road moved like it was stuck in treacle. I would like to try the DCT and I would prefer a road variant but I can’t afford it. Maybe the rumoured mid-range model for next year will be a bit more affordable and a tad lighter. If I had the money I would grab a this bike in DCT, no question! Thanks for the considered review. Nice work, well scripted and shot with an easy pace. Subbed!
Since I'm planning to buy this bike in 2022...I was searching videos in TH-cam
And I saw many & many videos
Bt yours was the best review I cud find
Even if it was 2 years later
Thanks
Too gud review
Thanks for the great review! I like the black color too, so many praises about the blue white red color option but I prefer this one, simple and classy
How do you get the black color one? I only see the blue one available in Adventure Sports.
I think Honda has made very good job. This is what I was dreaming about and even more, so have to change my not old Africa to new Africa again for this damn good highest model. Man lives only once, but sometimes even not whole.
Love your videos. Thank you for being completely honest. That is something you have over almost every other Moto reviewer on TH-cam.
Fantastic video!Ordered mine last week and i cant wait for her to arrive in 2 weeks.it's the tricolour AS ES manual.Will be my first liter bike so i expect to experience something special.Time will tell.
How did it go Nicolas?
@@fraserhouchen901 it went really bad man.I had to cancel my order after 3 months of non stop delays and lies from the dealer and things turned ugly....I was lucky enough to take back my initial deposit and i bought myself the R1250 GS.Check it on my channel.
@@nicolasrap7832 sorry to hear that. I’ll check out the channel.
Despite your channel name you always prove to me that your reviews are the best. Good JOB! Greetings from Brazil.
LOL! Thank you!
As always, an excellent review. I currently have a triumph tiger 1200 xca 2018 but after yesterday's ride this AF I am in love with this motorcycle. The DCT version is excellent. To replace the windshield with a little bit wider and the motorcycle is perfect.
Superb work. I m a fan of all your videos. You share each & every details of all the bikes. Love from INDIA. Looking forward for your next video
Current 2019 models are $3-4K under suggested retail price. Same for 2018 models around Oct 2018. I hope they have some discounts and not have to wait until Nov 2020 for a $3000 off suggested retail. Money saved can be used for accessories. Great Review!
I don’t think they will give discounts on a new model,wait till late 20
I appear to watch your whole videos because I go to sleep with your melodic voice. Very soothing
Great review, Honda has really stepped up then with this model, I bet the DCT version must be sublime.
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Got my ATAS 1100 EERA DCT, (same Colour) last weekend, after 500km, I am so Happy:-) great Job Honda
I like ur review very poised and very calm not in any hurry .....like u were enjoying every chunks of a meal ......
Nice one Mr. .....and about Honda .....u will never disappoint by the Honda 👍👍
This is SOOOOO Helpful!! I have access to a 2019 Adventure DCT, but I wanted a comparison to the new one, and HERE IT IS! Thank you!!!
I want that bike!! The metallic black with the gold wheels looks gorgeous, great value, awesome performance, all the tech... what more could you ask for!
I am waiting to pickmine up with the OEM crash bars and center stand 🤤
After 50 I think it is the right bike for me, the DCT model makes it a relaxing and perfect ride.
I hope in august this will be my new partner for my Spain Portugal trip ;)
I really enjoyed your review. I've been watching other videos on this bike. I liked the way you elaborated on the details and features of this bike. Very confidence inspiring. I'm hoping this will be my next bike thanks to your critique.
How is the wind protection at modest super-slab speeds of 70 mph/110 kph? How does it compare to the GS/GSA? I don't know about others around the world, but in the US to get anywhere many hours is spent on boring roads just trying to get to the preferred roads (scenery, etc.). Great video btw, super quality, and beautiful surroundings, including the architecture.
Great review love the black colour on this one
Great review as always, delivered in your unique style. I really think Honda are on to a winner here. Have a great Christmas from one of your senior subscribers.
Thank you Peter, have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Scott
4 thumbs up for this reviewer and review - I bought the same bike but without ES - Absolutely love it and got a great deal on one with panniers and extras ;-)
I have the VFR800X Crossrunner right now, last "touring" trail on Honda's catalogue. Too bad they focus on the Africa Twin only... Where is the Tiger 900 GT/Tracer900GT/F900XR alternative at Honda? They'll lose a loyal customer... And i'm not alone.
Lost me -I upgraded from a Honda LAMS/A2 bike to a KTM 790 Adv. I was looking for a middleweight bike with modern electronic rider aids and vacillating between a sport tourer or an ADV. But Honda don't have a convincing option in either category. The VFR800F and NC750X were nice enough bikes when they came out, but just don't cut it now. If they'd brought out a more up-to-date mid-sized VFR or a Trans Alp for 2020 I'd have been begging them to take my money for either one.
Yea, agreed, Honda needs two version of the Africa Twin, a 1200 and 900! 900 being the off-road focus and the 1200 being the touring version, now that'd be perfect.
@@NothingToProve 900 with 200kg!
@@NothingToProve The have 2 versions.
According to recent news they are going to make a mid range AT for next year using a bigger NC engine. A lot of people think that will be too slow though. If Honda can give the engine more power and preserve some of the economy of the NC then they could have a winner. Especially with a better chassis, suspension and brakes than the NC.
Great review as always Scott, thanks. I’ve never really liked the look of any adventure bikes. Bit gawky, function over form. But the Husqvarna Norden 901 will change that; first adventure bike that also looks good IMHO. Merry Christmas and a safe new year to you and your family Scott.
Agreed, the Husky 901 is a masterpiece (hopefully the production version is mostly intact, usually Husky are pretty good at that).
Try the DCT version in the base model
Hi great review ,but no talk of DCT .
I have the new Goldwing and have been waiting for a smaller lighter touring bike as good as Goldwing for technology, ride and DCT so bought this last week, the DCT ES with plus pack . ( not got pack yet as a problem with the welds apparently, all gone back to chad for remake) It’s fantastic and would genuinely never bother with a manual clutch again on any bike .
Honda really have smashed it again and are definitely making the other big boys look dated .
I tested the new GS 1250 and hated the ride and lack of finesse. I have had bmw in past and think they really need to up there game to get anywhere near Honda at the moment .
One other thing the plus pack puts the cost at £20535 so there’s not any savings on fully loaded GS ! But far better bike by a country mile love it .
Thanks again. Jonathan
Thank you but here is where I talk about DCT, I've done two Hondas with DCT:
th-cam.com/video/INXMReTw1JM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/DF-3BweCyiQ/w-d-xo.html
You are in Germany and your English is amazing.I do not know your story but, did you move from the states to Germany? Considering picking up either this or the Super tenere. For me and the wife to get off-road on.We also ride a 2019 Super Duke R.
Hi, yea, I'm from the States and live in Germany now. One thing to consider about the Super Tenere, is that it's really not for off-road. If you are going to do light trail for example that is fine but anything more than that I would not want to do it on the Yamaha ST. This bike would be better for doing both on and off-road.
Ride safe,
Scott
@@NothingToProve Great advice. Thank you very much. We really enjoy the videos. Going to pick up the Africa Twin soon. Ride safe!
Great review! The DCT edition must be fantastic! You live in a beautiful part of Germany...enjoy and safe riding man!
It is! I love Honda's DCT, it is so smooth.
Thanks James, ride safe, Scott
@@NothingToProve Great reviews you do. Based on a lot of your insight, I purchased a brand new 2019 Honda Nc750S with DCT and LOVE IT! Loved my Moto Guzzi V7, but needed a change. Thanks for your review on that Honda 750 DCT you did.
Just curious, you sound Canadian, but living in Germany obviously. I am Canadian myself living in London UK for many years. As said, just curious, and again, keep up the delightful and useful reviews!
Jim
Not Canadian but close, I'm from Michigan, I grew up knowing a few Canadian's and doing some fishing/canoe trips up there in Ontario and one of my best hunting buds was from Manitoba, he now lives permanently in Michigan (he married a Michigan girl that I introduced him too) but still today (30 years later) he has a very heavy Canadian accent...he's funny. That's probably what you hear in my accent but now it's evolving even more talking with all the Germans here in Germany for the last few years. Sometimes in my videos I'll say the German word instead of the English word...if you pay attention :)
Take care, Scott
NothingToProve Ha ha thanks for your reply!
It is indeed a small world!
I grew up in Saskatchewan but lived mainly in British Columbia and Ontario.
Been to Michigan many many times!
Lived in London since 1996 but love it here!
Perhaps someday if my son and I are riding through Germany on our way to Cyprus, will have to look you up for a quick ride!
Again, all the best, happy New Year, thank you for the terrific reviews, and safe riding!
Love the catchphrase "nothing to prove" it's excellent and so true.
Why didn't you tell me that when I was 21?😄
Jim
Greetings from Greece .I realy like your excellend reviews .
Love your work Mate. Are you planning to ride the new model by chance?
Thank you!
Actually no, I was not planning on doing it. I was not aware that there was a new model. What is new from the 2020?
Actually, sorry, you are right. The 2022 model I’m looking at has some software updates and a new set of colors. Thx u, and congrats on the new RT!
Stunning, amazing bike - I wish Honda would do a 650 version for smaller guys like me! ;) great review.
TRANSALP!!!
@@Unburdened_Beauty it is toooo old.
I’m 5’9”, Will test ride the lowest seat option
@@honeniheixiu8119 I have the 2019 Adventure Sports, I am only 5'9 with a '30 inch inseam. I thought it was too tall at first. But I have grown accustomed to it. And now I love it.
An 850cc version is coming in 2021. Well that is the rumor leaked from Honda "insiders" what ever the term "insiders" means. Who cares, at least we'll be getting a middleweight ADV from Honda!
Thanks Scott
Great bike and better vídeo editing. Great review.
Shaft drive, and an electronic windscreen and I’d be all over it.Great video.Thank you.
I've had several shaft drive bike's and NEVER had a problem with reliability!! But on a bike that you can supposedly go to the farthest reaches of man! Perhaps finding or carrying master link's and chain/sprockets is easier....from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe
Like it,I’d buy it if it were shaft drive.Great review Scott.👍👍
That would be Honda’s answer to the Super Tenere.
@@bukweet
I’d opt for the Super T by virtue of its shaft drive.
@@travelinben1966 That’s the decision facing me: the AT or the S10. Unfortunately the S10 is probably in it’s final year to be offered in the US, and it is already gone from Europe and the UK.
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I’m surprised since the S10 is a great bike.Might be able to get a great deal on any remaining ones.There’s also the Moto Guzzi V85 TT that’s worth a look, or a Honda VRF 1200x.New 2017 models can still be had I’m told.
crazy pretty countryside to ride in. 2 thumbs up!
Seat not too firm and narrow for all day riding?
How about the XT1200? Compare with CRF1100L?
Wow .. Have you tried the adventure sport without the ES? i am planning to get one without it
Sorry no 🤔
Pillion ride comfortable for long rides ?
Greaaaaaat review again. Its a great fantástic bike but I decided to go for the KTM 1290 super adventure.
Yea for me in the heavy weights, it's close between these two when it comes to bang for buck.
Thank you once again Sergio! Ride safe, Scott
Nice review and very nice footage ! I like how you change from diferent views when standing.
Thank you for the review and hope all is well Scott. Would you choose Africa Adventure 1100 ES or BMW 850 GSA for mainly touring ang some light offroading. Both have the same price tags in my jurisdiction and I will purchase with high seat 890 mm option. I am 195 cm and unfortunately test bikes are not available due to Covid 19 restrictions. I am going back and forth between two bikes.
I really enjoyed your review. It felt like you were talking to one person or a buddy rather than an audience. I have a 2018 Goldwing DCT tour and love it. However, after watching a lot of the Backroad Discovery videos, I want to eventually get an adventure bike. Do you ever do a video testing these bikes on dirt roads or BDR trails?
Thanks Steve. No I don't do roads like that yet, My channel is simply not big enough for an OEM to give me a bike for a few weeks or even a few days to shoot a video like that. Maybe in a few years when I get bigger :)
Ride safe, Scott
What about DCT?
Happy 2020 Year Dear Scott" Your Reviews Are always Entice Me To watch Keep it up Buddy 👍
Thank you Jeevan!
Dear Scott" IAM Planning to Buy a Adventure Bike" So Which will be A Great Choice Africa twin or Bmw R1250gs on Price terms Africa twin is 30% Lower Than R1250Gs and Also Honda Assembly the Bike in India* but Where as Gs Comes As Fully Made in Their Bavarias Own House Germany.
What an amazing review! And motorcycle too! Have to ask you to compare with the big boys ktm 1290 SAS and bmw 1250gs. I know it's different but is it more suitable for communting and tour? How about the twisties? Finally would you go for the dct?
Thanks! Love your channel!
Hi again! DCT, YES! I love the DCT that Honda makes. It is almost perfect.
Commuting and touring is what this version was built for...and yes it is very good at it...just like the 1250 & 1290. It just comes down to a matter of what your heart wants. Twisties, this is probably a little bit slower than the 1250/1290SAS because of the 21" front on the Honda. But with that said they are close but I feel like I could do corners faster on the other two vs. this.
Merry Christmas, Scott
@@NothingToProve Thank you!!! Got it! Merry Christmas from Madeira Island!
Thank you for nice review. Question: Why is that flickering on the screen. It is pretty destructive!?
Na, it's just the refresh rate difference in the TFT and the recording camera.
Very intuitive video, have a quick question is it worth to buy with DCT transmission with $800 more but with almost 20 lbs heavier?
Thank you.
The DCT is worth it, imho, but the question is do you want it and will you use it. That is the question that you have to ask yourself and if the answer is "yes & all the time" then it's worth it but if the answer is "I'm not sure or just some of the time" then it's probably not worth it.
Ride safe,
Scott
Very helpful review, with some details I have not seen elsewhere.
Good review!
Are from the US?
Yeppers!
Thanks Scott... another good review!! Merry Christmas!
Thank you!
Merry Christmas, Scott
All of these bikes today are fantastic. BUT, if you're like me and decide you don't want to deal with a chain drive bike, that narrows your choices considerably. So what's out there? The GS, the Guzzi, the Triumph, Harley (belt) on their bag bikes, and a few other Japanese standards, Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha, but these are not ADV bikes. I'm going to ride the Guzzi this week, but probably I'm landing with the GS. To me, it's still the bike of bikes. I'm not jazzed about spending 20k on it, but that's just always going to be the case when you're looking at "BMW".
Why does the screen keep blinking? All that tech and no compass? Love all your reviews. Is there 19 inch tire option?
I have a 1000 2015 versus is it worth while to upgrade to the Africa Twin adventure? Does the ES come with the dct? Again great review. Thankyou. Yes I am seriously considering this bike.
It's just the refresh rate of the camera is different from the TFT.
No 19" option that I'm aware of.
The DCT can come with either of the two AT's.
Good luck!
Why is your display bliching, that would annoy if there was no way to correct
It's not the Honda, it's the gopro Hertz/refresh rate is not the same as the Honda display.
How big of an issue or annoyance is the windscreen? Another video made a similar comment about not liking the height/ configuration of the windscreen. Great review btw, I think an AT is on the horizon for me
Not bad actually but I was on it for only one day. It might bother me day after day, week after week and that is why I said I'd cut off 2-3 inch off the top if I got it.
Great review. I love my 2020 AT. Guess less travel is for lower seat height. Right hand controls fill up if you get DCT model, hence why looks bare for your review. I used to think the LH controls were over the top ... but now I realise that they are great for when wearing thicker gloves!!! Apple Car play is awesome ( or Andriod Auot ), I use it all the time.
Great review as always. Besides not being my style of bike I could never own one anyway with a 28" inseam! Regardless I just enjoy watching good reviews on any bike. Thanks
Wind protection is poor on ATAS compared to GSA but is more reliable I think.
You mentioned good job Honda for this effort. I'm not sure how to interpret that. Does that mean the bike is on par with a GSA, better than, or still has some way to go?
I see less suspension travel between this version and last years. Any comments on how this bike compares to prior Adventure Sports, major leap forward, or subtle improvements?
I noticed you touching the TFT screen and it not being responsive, is this an issue? It appeared to be acting sticky.
Regarding the TFT, if you put up a nav app, then you have the small screen below, does that small screen display fuel range?
Regarding the TFT - are you able to run apps from your android phone? Music from the phone?
Have you tried the DCT version? Any comments on the difference, preference between the two, preference?
Regarding the hand guards, are they fully plastic or is there some kind of aluminum support frame? Back to the TFT, I understand it cannot be operated when in motion, but while in motion can it be controlled via the switches on the left handle bar?
Finally, where was this shot? Great scenery.
- Thanks.
This model (2020 adventure sport) is marketed for mainly touring with some offroad. If you want the more off road model go with the standard AT. The previous year model adventure sport is slightly more off road worthy, has a better suspension than the standard.
But if you want my two cents, buy used and put an ohlins front forks and rear shock, upgrade the fueling and exhaust and go conquer the world.
Youre welcome.
Great review as always...Are you planning to test the dct model ?We want your opinion about this gear box
I love the DCT on any Honda. I did do the 2019 AT DCT:
th-cam.com/video/INXMReTw1JM/w-d-xo.html
Check that out and I talk about the DCT and how it preforms on and off-road. Is the DCT worth it, short answer = yes. Long answer...well watch the video 😁
Ride safe,
Scott
Hmm.. Very interesting. This bike takes on a different persona in the Darkness colorway. I like it a lot. Apparently you do too! It is big though. That actually makes it more attractive to me! I just wonder if there are other luggage options. 2K for those aluminum cases is too steep. That is not what I would want anyway. Definitely a bike to keep in mind. Thanks, Scott.
Which bike do you think is best if you had to pick between the AfricaTwin and the Yamaha Tracer 9GT? For street riding no off road
I personally would take the Tracer 👍😁
old legend is back 👍🏻
Being top heavy is my complaint. But maybe you didn’t mention that since it’s common with the heavy weight adventure bikes.
Yea, you should try the Versys or V-Strom or 1290SAS or and the list goes on...the GS is heavy but not top heavy unless you get the ADV and fill the tank full then it is a little.
@@NothingToProve I think I’m gonna have to wait till I pay it off to consider anything else. Would lose too much money trading it in to a dealership. And having trouble finding a buyer since I am still making payments.
I got the lower seat with an inseam of 32 in and I’m 5’9 definitely tip toeing It backing it up.
Love the review, I see how you are so excited in riding the new 1100, if you don't mind, what kind of video equipment do you use for your channel reviews?
Thank you Michael,
It can vary for each video, so I put the gear used in each video description, this is the gear used for this video.
Video Gear:
Camera A: GoPro HERO7 Black
Camera B: GoPro HERO7 Black
Camera C: Samsung S9
Audio A: Zoom H1n & Zoom F1
Microphone: Sony ECM-CS3
I have the same bike year and colour. I love it other than the apple car play, Leaves a little to be desired.
Well..... this is a perfect review.... like it... thumbs up..... 👏
That's such beautiful countryside, where is that? I'd love to ride around and explore that area
Hi Andrew, you'd have to get on a plane and fly to Germany to ride those beautiful roads. The Germans take very good care of their roads. That's probably why the taxes are so high :(
Ride safe,
Scott
I wonder if the seat is more comfortable than the 2019 version.
It felt about the same to me.
Good review buddy...
Great review! Will you also do a test the suzuki 1050xt?
Yes, been waiting for the dealership to put demo plates on it...then video!
@@NothingToProve fantastic! Subscribing :)
One thing I don’t like is bikes seem to keep gaining wait. Is the “adventure sport” worth the extra (I think)14kg in weight over the standard? Especially with most of that being 6LT’s of extra gas up high. I never considered the “adventure sport” over the standard before now; only for the adjustable windscreen and tubeless wheels. Also, is the dct worth while, or stick to manual?
Ideally I’m hoping they announce the cfr850l as true before I get the money saved on this (only a rumor here in Japan, but a strong rumor), but for now, “adv sport” or standard?
Well, depends on what you are doing to do, off-road or all on-road? Some off-road then the standard. But if you are going to do mostly road, then the Adv. Sports.
But yea, agree with the weight, just wait for the 850 to come out next year.
@@NothingToProve thanks. I'll be 90 percent on road for sure but dont like heavy bikes. Ideally I'd stay between a 650 and 800, but in that range you need to sacrifice all the tech like criuse control.
Either way, thanks for all the "real world" reviews. Your content is great and you understand that most of us wont be needing 150hp to get to Starbucks 🤣
Did I miss it? Don’t see anything but chain or shaft drive or if it has cruise control. Otherwise I’m liking the bike.
Chain yes of course, cruise yes of course.
Hi Scott, how do you compare the quickshifter to the other 5 competitors? And how is the front brake, has it a lot of initial bite? Thanks!
Hi Fred, this bike did not have one, so I cannot compare it to those other bikes. But with that said the shifting on all other Honda's I've ridden have been very good, so I would imagine that it's the same on this bike.
Ride safe, Scott
Thanks for your fair review Scott as always 👍👍 I have been planning to buy new AT DCT ES after Honda's launching and waiting for your review.. I can go to Honda dealer now with mind at peace ✌️
You will love it!, I really is a very good bike. I hope you enjoy it!
Take care, Scott
devri alim You are making me jealous! Go for it! 🤣
Nice review as always!!! Probably my next bike????
Why is the color scheme different than what is listed on Honda's web site?
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Colors vary depending on the country.
Nice vid!
So this or the Tiger 900 rally pro?
Rally Pro but just barely :)
Great review. Thank you.
Hi Scott, could you compare in few words suspensions and engines Africa Twin 1100 and Triumph Scrambler 1200 ? Which is better on the the road and in offroad ?
Well,
First: on paper - the 1200 is lighter and has more torque down low and at peak.
Second: feel while riding - the weight of the 1200 felt higher and therefore felt almost as heavy as the 1100, but the torque on the 1200 was noticeably more than the 1100.
Third: off-road - 1100 wins there, no question for me. Not many ADV bikes are as good as the 1100 off-road...so comparing the 1200 to it is really unfair for the 1200. Off-road for the Triumph is really an after-thought and the 1100 it's the focus and it shows.
Forth: on-road - the suspensions are pretty close to being equal, both have a high turn in but are stabil in corners, so suspensions I can't really complain about either one given what they are made to do.
@@NothingToProve
Thank you for your response. You do a great job.
I read that quickshifter doesn't come as standard, do you think is it a must have as an alternative to dct?
It's rare when a quickshifter comes standard on any bike. Usually it comes with some package or grouped with an option. And no it's not a must have for this bike, simply because the trans is so easy to do clutch-less shifts that I didn't even notice not having a quickshifter. This is one of the reasons I gave 3 thumbs up for the powertrain on this bike.
Ride safe, Scott
Have to agree, so much so I pick mine up on Friday😊 great job Honda 👏🏼👏🏼
Hello, "better than the triumph display" compared to what model ? something like the Triumph Tiger 900 for example ?
Hello, pick any of the Tigers, same TFT and any of the Triples too.
@@NothingToProve Because on the new tiger 900 it's a new color tft 7''
Of course I can only give opinion on what actually exists, on the bikes that are actually at the dealerships that we can touch, feel, experience it in first hand. When the Tiger 900 gets the the dealerships I can and will do that but any thing before that is just fantasy. And just because it's 7" does not mean it's better.
Only time will tell.
Ride safe, Scott
waiting for my atas delivery in a few weeks. you really made me think of swapping for a black one
With the 21” front wheel, will that make it wobble on the irregular pavement ?
If anything it would make the contrary...
in Asia come.with 810 am seat...with 785mm and 850mm seat option
How about comparate with yamaha st 1200 in terms of off road and handling ?
Yamaha ST doesn't hold a candle to this bike.
@@Konstantin-qt6yw Thank you .
Great review! How does it compare to Triumph Tigers?
Better :)
Do you have a GIVI top case mount on the OEM rack?
No, that is the Honda rack mount.
Where are you riding?
Germany
@@NothingToProve I am from France. I tried this motorbike 2 years ago. I love it. Thank you for your job.
man that is a stunning bike , no doubt about it , i originally liked the try colour but man , im not sure now ???
Youareforgettingthe Yamaha Super Ténéré 1200... Why?
600lbs of love and joy - oy
keep on going I very much like your clips! 3 thumbs up! Thanks
Dear Scott, congratulations for this review! Really good job here!
Comparing this moto with Ducati Multistrada 950 s, what’s your opinion??
These two are not exactly same bikes but cost is abt same and there two are my choices! I am in between both of them. Any reply will be appreciated!
Keep the good work!
Thank you.
I don't know yet, I plan to ride all the Ducati's this year and the 950 is on the list. Then I'd be able to answer your question 😁
Thanks!
I like everything about that bike. Nicely done Honda!
Hold on for the new BMW F900R and XR models being already at some dealers.
Maybe .....though their not Honda's !!
Super reliability, Dealers all over the world !! Go ahead and get what you want, and get out and ride !!
Cheers
@@brianharrigan8821 Indeed. I loved my NC750X but, needed more power.
The F900XR is the best answer I can buy as a crossover with plenty power.
Great review. Good job Honda and good job to you!
Bro, do a video on that Jacket.
I was torn between that one and the Klim Kodiak. I ended up getting the Klim, (and I love it. )
Yea, I've been thinking about doing some gear videos, I'll think some more about it :)
Ride safe, Scott