Was Ou Yushan's AA Floor Exercise Underscored?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2021
  • Score Given: 14.333
    I decided to make this video because people commenting on her routine video were arguing if it was underscored or overscored. Of course her form is exquisite but there are definitely still deductions to take! Comment down below what you think!
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  • @dancingrick1014
    @dancingrick1014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Her form on the double tuck was amazing

  • @anikokoren3417
    @anikokoren3417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Her form is too amazing makes me wanna cry. This was one of the most perfect routines ever apart from some really small mistakes on the dance elements

  • @ruylsonsantos2464
    @ruylsonsantos2464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I think the split ring leap was perfect! 😍❤️

  • @freddycooks
    @freddycooks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think it was fair. I had her at 14.4. I couldn't see the crossed feet. Maybe if it was in slow motion, I would have, but I thought her form was beautiful.

  • @ruylsonsantos2464
    @ruylsonsantos2464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think the split ring leap was perfect

  • @marythiccmas
    @marythiccmas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    She has crossed feet on all of her laid out twisting elements except for the front layout 1/2. If you're going to take it for one, you should be taking it out for all of them. Other than that, I do agree with the video overall that she was scored fairly. I think even if the judges had deducted for crossed feet on all of her twisting elements, at least one of her .3 steps might not have met the meter threshold (the double tuck step was a bit borderline) so they only deducted .1 and it would balance out.

  • @leonardoaraujomoura7506
    @leonardoaraujomoura7506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    queen

  • @brisafranca8067
    @brisafranca8067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love her so much, her talent won't last other olympics, but she won't go to tokyo due to her unconsistensy 😔

    • @jansicra6813
      @jansicra6813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It’s still early in the season. The head coach said that her routines were downgraded to prevent injury, and they still have 2 more internal tests after this. It was a bad meet for her, that’s true, but if they work on consistency during this months she will absolutely make it to Tokyo. It’s a shame she won’t be able to go to any international competitions before the olympics to gain experience, but we’ll see. Praying for her.

    • @Plaspos
      @Plaspos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Who knows maybe it will last. Sui Lu won beam and floor at 2008 chinese nationals (even tying Cheng Fei on floor), didn't make the team and came back later in 2012 and made it. Surely Ou can hold out for 3 more years?

    • @bagelized
      @bagelized 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Russell Hayman Why are you so goddamn negative? Jesus...

    • @kojobaidoo4667
      @kojobaidoo4667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Russell Hayman I’m guessing you haven’t seen this. twitter.com/gayfetus/status/1329281587725398018?s=21 again, she downgraded her for injury prevention, but she’s perfectly capable of harder tumbling. Not even sure if she even should go for it though, a 14.3 is a great score either way

    • @MahmudinMahmudin
      @MahmudinMahmudin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Russell Hayman she really dont need to do that much harder tumbling. this rourine can get a silver in 2019 world.why do you think that she must have that harder tumbling? for what? if she want to upgrade, that is great. if she dont, that is ok. maybe a little upgrade is necessary.

  • @kojobaidoo4667
    @kojobaidoo4667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m not sure why you’re taking off for the switch ring and the crossed feet on the triple is probably not visible in real time (personally I can barely make it out in slow motion) but everything else looks good to me

  • @boosadan28
    @boosadan28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    just thinking if she does ncaa she’d be a floor champion
    WEIRD IF

    • @anikokoren3417
      @anikokoren3417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I would kill to see a chinese in ncaa but they get a lot of money which ruins her ncaa chances

    • @bagelized
      @bagelized 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Language differences would be too much.
      It’s like plopping an American in a Chinese uni.

    • @kristiankowalski2854
      @kristiankowalski2854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bagelized You'd be surprised. There are plenty of Chinese students in American Universities with some schools having a massive percentage of their student body from China. We don't see Chinese gymnasts in NCAA because of sponsorships but there are Chinese athletes in other NCAA sports!

    • @bagelized
      @bagelized 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kristiankowalski2854 I don’t have to be surprised. I’m an East Asian (Korean) going to an American university & I know how many of my friends suffer from language issues and eventually return to Korea because of the alienation they feel. I myself feel too much cultural differences sometimes.

    • @Boymanjusri
      @Boymanjusri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bagelized Chinese are tougher and more resourceful… plus we have no choice my dear

  • @MahmudinMahmudin
    @MahmudinMahmudin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What is excessive preparation on the wolf turn? I think she do it quckly. Is there explanation on the code of point?

    • @briancockerham4731
      @briancockerham4731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yea these are ridiculous... she didn't take that much time

    • @dej01
      @dej01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      she barely took any time at all, there was no excessive preparation

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  • @Zuranthium
    @Zuranthium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Steps have to be over a meter to get .3 deduction. I have 1.1 in deductions:
    -.1 double tuck step
    -.1 double tuck stiffness on landing
    -.1 triple wolf pause
    -.1 double wolf balance
    -.1 double wolf precision
    -.1 layout 1/2 step
    -.1 double L-turn pause
    -.1 double L-turn precision
    -.1 switch split 1/2 form, including stiffness on landing
    -.1 not enough complexity in choreography
    -.1 not enough musical interpretation (look at this routine before she had the wolf turns in, there was a lot more dance happening)
    I think she should take one of the Double Turns out of the routine and get some more choreography back in. She has 9 elements in the routine, so that extra double turn adds only .1 value, and will probably always get at least .1 deduction, which means it's doing nothing but hurting her.

    • @marythiccmas
      @marythiccmas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stiffness on landing is not a real deduction. And while the double tuck step is borderline on the meter metric, the step on the layout 1/2 is definitely a .3 step.

    • @Zuranthium
      @Zuranthium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marythiccmas Stiffness on landing is a real deduction. It can also be described as "Hesitation during performance of element" or "Body posture fault". Her landing of the Double Tuck thuds a bit, there's a slight break at the waist and minor whiplash up through the neck, and she doesn't immediately present the landing. Compare her landing/step here to the landing/step on the Layout 1/2, where she is fully upright and fluidly goes into choreography with the arms and head.
      BTW, her legs aren't even a meter long. The length between her feet on that Layout 1/2 landing isn't longer than her legs. That landing actually very nearly looks like a planned, controlled step back - the kind that are allowable in NCAA and might be allowed in Olympic competition next quad too.

    • @marythiccmas
      @marythiccmas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zuranthium Bro NEITHER of those deductions means stiffness on landing. Body posture fault is with regards to chest being down on landing and hesitation means LITERAL HESITATION. What you described does not equate to any actual deduction in the code of points, and you are making shit up.
      Also, you seem to genuinely not understand what the length of a meter is, but I can tell you right now her legs are definitely more than a meter long. Just because it would be allowed in the NCAA deduction free does not mean that it's not a .3 step in the current code. It definitely is, and you're completely full of shit arguing otherwise.
      Please, read the code of points. I'm begging you. You very clearly do not understand how the deduction system works, and it shows in you misappropriating deductions to non deductible things.

    • @Zuranthium
      @Zuranthium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marythiccmas The semantics you're attempting to argue are incorrect. The fact of the matter is that body form and control and finishing of elements is looked at in every aspect, whichever word you want to use, and there is an applicable deduction to take for the flaws I described. I've analyzed jumps for ages, and done them myself, I know how it feels and looks to land ideally, and can spot very quickly when there's an issue. Her landing had too much of a thud/hesitation for me and her body is factually much less upright than an example I even provided.
      RE: a meter - you seem confused about how long it is and how long a non-tall person's leg typically is. You can look up the typical measurements, and could also measure the space between her feet on video as compared to her body. Math doesn't lie.

    • @marythiccmas
      @marythiccmas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zuranthium I'm not arguing semantics. You're just full of shit and don't actually understand the code. NONE of what you're describing is a landing deduction, and at this point you're just throwing around fancy language to make it look like you know what you're talking about. You don't.
      Also, I'm well aware of what a meter step looks like in gymnastics. I've been watching it for long enough.

  • @mattj5391
    @mattj5391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had a 0.1 pause before the first tumble. Nothing on the first tumble (in real time I couldn’t see crossed feet). 0.1 pause before the second tumble. 0.1 step on Double Tuck. Excessive prep 0.1 and balance 0.1 on triple wolf. Excessive prep 0.1 balance 0.1 precision 0.1 on double wolf. 0.1 step on barani. 0.1 loss of balance on double front attitude. Nothing on double full. Nothing on switch ring. 0.1 precision/body shape on switch half (it’s almost a straddle). Apparatus deductions: 0.1 lack of variety in corners. Artistry 0.2 (disconnected elements; insufficient complexity). = 8.6 E Score

  • @maussolo
    @maussolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see the same time preparing the double wolf than preparing the double L turn, yet you deducted only the first one. And isn't she piking down her triple twist?

    • @ragansmithgymnastics7782
      @ragansmithgymnastics7782  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I did debate taking for the second pause, but I think maybe because it came after dance instead of just squatting in a wolf position? Also I think her triple is fine she just pikes down a tiny bit at the end but not much at all.

  • @dej01
    @dej01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i strongly disagree on the excessive preparation on the wolf turn and you definitely can't see crossed feet in real-time

    • @MahmudinMahmudin
      @MahmudinMahmudin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. Another thing that i dont agree is deduction for cross feet and ring leap.

  • @jerbear3930
    @jerbear3930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Angi Cipra 2017(?) floor music👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

  • @MahmudinMahmudin
    @MahmudinMahmudin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think if we judge like this on any other gymnast, we might see 5.0 Execution without a fall. I mean crossed feet on triple twist is ridicilous. Excessive preparation on her wolf turn is wrong. Her ring will not get any deduction. I saw some kind of this video and this chanel didnt deduct too much like this. So, I dont agree with this excecution breakdown.

  • @drake_healy2984
    @drake_healy2984 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9 months late but I have nothing better to do on my work break lmao
    I did this in one go in real time
    Triple Full - 0.1 Crossed Feet
    Double Tuck - 0.3 Step
    Triple Wolf - 0.1 Bent Knee Takeoff
    Double Wolf - 0.1 Bent Knee Takeoff
    0.1 Lack of Balance
    0.1 Precision
    Layout 2.5 - 0.1 Crossed Feet
    Front Layout 1/2 - 0.1 Crossed Feet
    0.3 Step
    Double Front Attitude - 0.1 Lack of Control
    Double Full - 0.1 Crossed Feet
    Switch Half - 0.1 Precisión (it is a borderline straddle)
    10.000 - 1.600 = 8.400
    5.5 + 8.400 = 13.900
    Idk why the judges overscored her so much

  • @AtlantaGymFan
    @AtlantaGymFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very weak ending with a double full

    • @lauraxxx6412
      @lauraxxx6412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah, but with perfect execution. It's better doing a perfect C element than a D/E with deductions.

    • @lalareal180
      @lalareal180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      China and their double fulls. lol

    • @mattj5391
      @mattj5391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For someone like her, she doesn’t need a difficult dismount. It’s changing in the next Code - but she’s right to do this here.

    • @MD-722
      @MD-722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattj5391 There have only been proposed changes for next quad; nothing is guaranteed. Also I'd rather see a clean C-skill or a 3-pass programme to close an FX than another flexed-footed double pike with leg separations which indicate that anything more difficult than that would only mean worse execution.

    • @mattj5391
      @mattj5391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MD-722 the FIG released the final version of the 2022-24 code last week. It is guaranteed. The dismount rules are changing such that D+ dismounts performed without a fall will get a 0.2 bonus.