I tried this in my hive that had laying workers. I left her in the push-in cage about 3 days then released her. 2 days later she was laying. Thanks for the help. I'm glad I didn't do a shake-out!
The correct way to fix a laying worker colony is by the addition of uncapped brood. If you do that, plus use your cage, you will be good to go. I would not do it without the addition of at least two frames of uncapped brood.
Trying this method now will see what happens. I made the cage much much larger so she has room to lay up probably 1/4th of a frame. Gonna check on her in a couple of days and see how they are treating here. She has some nurse bee's in there with her to help her out.
Sir please help me what to do? I have a laying worker hive but I oldrady introduce a queen which in 2 week they accepted a queen but the laying worker still continue laying multiple eggs in the cell that the problem Sir
The tricky part is that there is not a good answer to this question. It's something that would benefit from a great research study, though. Introducing queens, especially to laying workers, is the thing beekeepers through the centuries have spent the most time trying to figure out, and we are still working on figuring it out. You will need to make your best guess and hope they accept her. Some beekeepers wait a couple hours, some overnight, some several days. If it were me, I would wait about 3 days and then give it a try.
@@thehoneycompany I actually found a method that works perfectly. But I do in the case of either removing an older queen, or queen dying, I wait eight days before introducing a new queen. During those eight days, I tape a piece of queen temp pheromone strip to the top of one of the frames. This tells the Bees they still have a queen and they do not attempt to make any queen cells to replace her. At the end of the day I remove the queen pheromone strip, and by that time there are no viable larva left to make a replacement queen. It is then that I add the new queen into a pushing cage, and keep her cage up to 5 to 7 days. Done this now seven times and it’s worked successfully every time.
We in Ireland usually shake the bees off every frame about 20 ft from the hive and the laying worker or workers do not find there way home we then use the push in cage that you used in he video!!!
Strange. I thought the laying worker would generally be a forager bee, and thus would be able to orient their way back to the hive if shaken off? That was my thinking but maybe I'm wrong.
Shaking out don't ALWAYS WORK,they can follow back in. WHAT DOES WORK IS OPEN BROOD FRAMES , because PHEREMONE it gives off suprecesses the laying working FROM LAYING, and if ALREADY LAYING it helps dry ovaries up then Queen in cage to finish job.IF they accept Queen it'll stop the laying WORKERS PLURAL, SOMETIMES HUNDREDS OF THEM ,NEVER ONLY ONE , HARDLY EVER.. ANYWAY WORKERS will start Killing laying workers once QUEEN Pheremone back in hive AND brood especially OPEN BROOD giving off pheremone the laying workers that don't get killed dry up and quit laying.GETTING Queen accepted is HARDEST Part,after that it'll fix itself, Getting Queenright again is hardest part because they won't accept queens, putting in laying Cage increases chances better than any other way that I know of
So much for working the bees gently. Totally unnecessary. Use queen cage normally. The only thing I suggest is to manually release her after 1 day and watch her go into the hive. If they are going to reject a queen, they do it immediately. One club speaker had them jump in his hand and ball the queen as he was opening the cage.
I tried this in my hive that had laying workers. I left her in the push-in cage about 3 days then released her. 2 days later she was laying. Thanks for the help. I'm glad I didn't do a shake-out!
That cage is pure gold!! Thanx, LP
The correct way to fix a laying worker colony is by the addition of uncapped brood. If you do that, plus use your cage, you will be good to go. I would not do it without the addition of at least two frames of uncapped brood.
Trying this method now will see what happens. I made the cage much much larger so she has room to lay up probably 1/4th of a frame. Gonna check on her in a couple of days and see how they are treating here. She has some nurse bee's in there with her to help her out.
It worked not as planned but worked. They dug her out in about a day but she was fine. I guess she had time to start laying.
Sir please help me what to do? I have a laying worker hive but I oldrady introduce a queen which in 2 week they accepted a queen but the laying worker still continue laying multiple eggs in the cell that the problem Sir
How long should one leave a new queen in a pushin cage before releasing her? Is four days enough? Thx
The tricky part is that there is not a good answer to this question. It's something that would benefit from a great research study, though. Introducing queens, especially to laying workers, is the thing beekeepers through the centuries have spent the most time trying to figure out, and we are still working on figuring it out.
You will need to make your best guess and hope they accept her. Some beekeepers wait a couple hours, some overnight, some several days.
If it were me, I would wait about 3 days and then give it a try.
@@thehoneycompany I actually found a method that works perfectly. But I do in the case of either removing an older queen, or queen dying, I wait eight days before introducing a new queen. During those eight days, I tape a piece of queen temp pheromone strip to the top of one of the frames. This tells the Bees they still have a queen and they do not attempt to make any queen cells to replace her. At the end of the day I remove the queen pheromone strip, and by that time there are no viable larva left to make a replacement queen. It is then that I add the new queen into a pushing cage, and keep her cage up to 5 to 7 days. Done this now seven times and it’s worked successfully every time.
We in Ireland usually shake the bees off every frame about 20 ft from the hive and the laying worker or workers do not find there way home we then use the push in cage that you used in he video!!!
Strange. I thought the laying worker would generally be a forager bee, and thus would be able to orient their way back to the hive if shaken off? That was my thinking but maybe I'm wrong.
Does not work.
Shaking out don't ALWAYS WORK,they can follow back in. WHAT DOES WORK IS OPEN BROOD FRAMES , because PHEREMONE it gives off suprecesses the laying working FROM LAYING, and if ALREADY LAYING it helps dry ovaries up then Queen in cage to finish job.IF they accept Queen it'll stop the laying WORKERS PLURAL, SOMETIMES HUNDREDS OF THEM ,NEVER ONLY ONE , HARDLY EVER.. ANYWAY WORKERS will start Killing laying workers once QUEEN Pheremone back in hive AND brood especially OPEN BROOD giving off pheremone the laying workers that don't get killed dry up and quit laying.GETTING Queen accepted is HARDEST Part,after that it'll fix itself, Getting Queenright again is hardest part because they won't accept queens, putting in laying Cage increases chances better than any other way that I know of
Awesome idea !
Thanks for education and sher idea success
What size/kind of wire do you use?
So much for working the bees gently. Totally unnecessary. Use queen cage normally. The only thing I suggest is to manually release her after 1 day and watch her go into the hive. If they are going to reject a queen, they do it immediately. One club speaker had them jump in his hand and ball the queen as he was opening the cage.
poor video quality.
Why da fuq am I waching bees?