DEBATE: The Best Premier League Striker In Their Prime.
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- In this video, James Allcott and Joe Thomlinson take on the bracket to find out who was the best Premier League striker in their prime!
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Let's mix it up James, best inverted wingers....?
I'd like to see the same again with Pens removed & the new definition of "Attackers"
Best defenders of Premier league all time. Think it will be a very interesting one, maybe with Flav
You remember Kane hasn’t won a prem right?
this talk about kane would of beat shearer record. shearer had some season that didn't even count to his Prem record people tend to forget this Shearer's total of 283 top-flight goals, 23 of which were scored in the pre-Premier League era, also known as the old First Division.
I don’t understand how you can ask about the “best season ever” and then compare career averages to prove why Henry has a slight edge over Suarez. It took Suarez a few months to get used to the league, but that 13/14 season was unbelievable. You’d be more surprised to hear he wasn’t involved in a goal or two in a match than if he was.
Truly unstoppable.
8 games banned as well and didn’t take penalties
Not to mention assisting
He scored half his goals that season vs the bottom 3…
@@johnnybaddeley8488he served like half that ban the season before though
@@johnnybaddeley8488he was the best in the world at that point. I don't see how this is a debate. I'm a Liverpool fan but my friends that are united fans agree.
5 games banned. So he was better than everyone else playing 5 less games. Not only the numbers, he consistently scored once in a career goals.
It was the striker skillset version of watching Messi walking through people down the wing in his prime.
On a single season he's the best player to ever play in the league and I'll die on that hill.
Joe’s argument against Torres might as well have just been Joe holding up a Man United kit. Bro couldn’t any reasons against Torres other than “I won’t have Rooney crash out”
Like cmon man, I agree with you but make a stronger argument, I know you’re capable of it
Cause it’s a stupid argument Rooney had more goals in his best season and offers far more creativity, work rate and just about everything
@@dazza4105then argue that instead of making a bad point.
Sorry IVIRnathanreilly, we will now all do exactly as you say, sweet sensei, I hope we are all enough for you @@IVIRnathanreilly
Suarez is the best in his prime he done everything, would do the dirty work by running around chasing players , scored screamers, made his team mates better. Got 31 goals without pens and missed like 6 games. He probably would have scored 45 if he had taken pens and played the full season joke of a player who then went on to win it all at barca
Suarez in 13/14 got 48 goal contributions in 33 games and had Liverpool playing great football, he played at 100 miles an hour and that rubbed off on his teammates. But I have no qualms about Henry finishing above him here either, he was class
31 goals & 12 assists is not 48 G. Don’t make it better than it was. 43 in 33 is stil very, very good tho
Aguero had better stats that season
@@Matthew_koch He got 17 assists not 12
@@kieran9882 prem page says different
@@kieran9882 don't know where you have your stats from but officially he got 12 assists
I unfortunately was never able to watch Henry but my older brother did and he feels the same way he just can’t describe truly how amazing he was in his prime, he said I have had to watch him to understand
Henry was better player, Shearer was a better striker
@@NUFCOfficialShearer had the added benefit of longevity in the league plus several 42 games seasons though. Henry got more assists and had a superior goal to game ratio.
@@NUFCOfficialHenry also won more golden boots than Shearer
@@NUFCOfficialHenry would definitely be the top scorer if he played 183 more games. Being 85 goals behind Shearer
Henry was a joy to watch. My favourite premier league striker of all time.
Awesome video, love stuff like this! If you ever do a GK version (Obviously I’m biased) but Nigel Martyn has definitely got to be in with a shout. 21 Clean Sheets in a season (97-98 with 24 in all competitions) while not playing for a “top” team (if the rule is still peak seasons etc). Also the Premier League record for number of Clean Sheets in the League is Cech with 24 (only 3 more than Nige) and Cech had the best defence the league has ever seen that year. Also if you add the Clean Sheets for the 3 years Martyn was playing in Div1 before the Premier League started, Martyn would now be 2nd in the PL all time Clean Sheets Table. Martyn was also voted PFA Keeper of the year 3 years running. All while not playing for a Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool etc who all had better defences and their keepers had less to do a lot of the time, so for Nige to still be comparable in stats speaks volumes to me. Yes he didn’t win anything unfortunately, I always feel that’s more of a team achievement, but in terms of ability, I always say that Nigel Martyn is up there with the greatest ever Premier League Keepers, at least Top 5 in terms of ability alone.
Also if there are any metrics for spaghetti-eating capabilities, I'd back Nige against any man
39:40 Thank you for clarifying about how complete a striker Shearer was (I actually wrote something similar before seeing your Shearer comments). And it was an ankle injury which ultimately forced him into being more of a target man for much of his time at Newcastle. It's always annoying when I see people just say he offered nothing beyond goals like as if it's a crime to try to adapt your game post career threatening injury. In fact adaptability is a sign of a good all round player.
Also that season he suffered an ACL, he had 16 goals. Next season he comes back and scores 31 league goals, which is just ridiculous. Who suffers an ACL mid-season and scores 31 next season. And then 34 and 31 the two seasons after.
Can't believe Torres prime got disrespected like that. Absolutely destroyed every team he was up against
nah it was only the ginger geeza who disrespected him like that, other guy was praising him a bit
Tbf he did come up against Rooney
When other people have different opinions than me 😮
@@Flame-jw1hy it's less disrespect but more just the matchup screwed him rooney is the right pick and i'm a liverpool fan
Torres lowest amount of goals in a season from everyone on the list, one season in his career of 20 plus goals, one dimensional player. Wasnt disprespected at all, barely belongs on the list.
Think Peak is better described as a 2-3 season run. Dont think you want to oversell a single season. Think the goal is how good were they at their best *with a large enough sample size to feel certain.* I dont think you want to have overly rigid criteria get in the way of the spirit of the debate.
Edit: I think you treat it like a draft. You get each of these at their prime level for a full season, who you taking?
Top video Jim! So many categories you could do this for and all would be great viewing, just like this!
Best central midfielders in the Prem has the potential to be spicy.
This was frustrating, it’s just a prime season it doesn’t necessarily matter on the name even if they are the best over their career. Struggled to keep to your own concept. Man U bias was strong.
I'm a lifelong Liverpool man, but the way they went straight past Cole's best season in '93/94 - pretty sure it's still the highest non-penalty season ever in Prem history (34G,13A in 40 games with zero pens I'm pretty sure), beating peak Alan Shearer to the golden boot is bizarre and completely, just...wrong. It makes Anything Vardy did completely pale in comparison
What is he on about Suarez peak was at Barca? So? Just means that he had an even higher level to go to? So we just disregard him getting 31 non pen goals and 43 goal involvements after missing the first 8 games with the craziest array of finishes cos he was better at Barca? Makes no sense at all he’s so clearly the best season
First 5 games*
I don't have to agree with your choices to enjoy the show. Love this format, hope to see more of this sort of thing.
I only disagreed with 2 results great bracket lads 👍
in fowlers defence vs kane, he did have 3 exceptional seasons, his big goals against newcastle, arsenal, man utd, against amazing goalkeepers, his 2 against schmiechel are better goals technically than kane has ever scored. that being said its kane. plus 3 against seaman in 5 mins.
I'm a Liverpool fan who was 8/9 when Fowler was at his peak and he was literally my childhood hero, room covered in posters all my shirts were Fowler 9, but even I have to say Kane deserved to beat him. As much as it saddens me.
@@jamescurrall9341for sure a very underrated finisher. One of the best tbf
The amount of shite you’ve spouted makes a bull jealous
Blackburn weren't set up to service Shearer. They had two strikers. I remember Sky Sports promoting games as a race to see who would become the leagues top scorer, Shearer, or Sutton. It had been close for months.
You get a time machine and put blackburn shearer at 22-23 before he did his ACL into last seasons man city team he's getting 60 goals. He was just that good.
The fact shear lost to Kane because Kane does more for the team, yet Shearer had that 40+ goals and assist season is puzzling
Theres no contradiction there
He does make the 'team' better more than shearer. Its obviously kane for the simple reason he played for spurs for christ sake meanwhile Chelsea arsenal man united Liverpool and City are all spending 100s of millions.
Kane has now probably surpassed shearer as England's greatest striker
Andy Cole should have made the semis in this run-in.
I think aguero was hurt with the suarez match up. Aguero was unique he played better against the better teams. Im seeing talks about suarez scoring 4 vs norwich being impressive. Aguero would put 5 past a great team no problem. Aguero was someone you coukd rely on he was inevitable. The way his career ended for city summed his career off. He comes of the bench scores twice in 10 mins at home. He could score from every angle at any moment vs anyone. He could make goals out of no where. Not many other strikers on this list could do that
Best True Prime striker that played in the prem as a striker, i think has to be Luiz
Suarez:15/16 GP53, G59, A24 (4 Pens*) G+A 83 top 3 team in Europe *subjective* (Barca)
Henry: 03/04 GP51, G39, A15 (7 Pens) G+A 54 top 3 team in Europe *subjective*
Van Persie 11/12 GP48 G37 A13 (5 Pens*) G+A 50 top 10 team in Europe *Subjective*
Haaland: 22/23 GP53, G52, A9 (8 Pens*) G+A 61 top 3 team in Europe *subjective*
Kane: 22/23 GP49, G32, A5 (6 Pens*) G+A 37 top 15-20 team in Europe *subjective*
Rooney's 11/12 season great shout in only 43 games played
Great video James! i think you guys need to really clearly set the metric of how you are qualifying the players. Individual Season? only prem season? or any one season for them? League-only stats or all games? etc. This would simplify the debating I think as it seems to change player to player (data from TF)
Now you know football my friend a honest unbiased fact. I don't know why they love Kane so much his great but he ain't nowhere near what Suarez was as a striker look at his stats before Liverpool signed him and barca at ATl M. Look what he used to do for Uruguay.
shearer went 31 34 31 in 3 consective seasons (yes more that 38 games). a 3yr peak...
Yea Kane over Shearer was a howler from James & Joe
@@NamedJoehow the fuck when Kane’s done something Shearer has never in winning both the golden boot and most assists in one season
Great video James! Will definitely be tuning in for the next episode
It's Suarez !!
If you do it again can you turn off the grid lines on excel/g sheets pleaseee, will make it look loads cleaner
Suarez was the right answer for one season peak even tho Henry is the pl goat
Aw man I just saw Van Nistelrooy being given an ‘easy’ over Le Tiss. Le Tissier was a phenomenal player and made the game look easy whilst playing for a bang average team
This is class.
Can't wait for more these
You boys absolutely nailed it
The left side was definitely more stacked.
Shame Henry and Suarez weren't on opposite sides because that's the best 2 seasons.
Sheringham more of an all round player than Cole (who was devastating in front of goal), possibly more of a 10 than a striker. But Sheringham was super-clinical in bigger matches too IMHO.
Suarez prime is the best ive ever seen bar Messi and Ronaldo, for that he should easily win it for me.
Phillips not beating hasslebaink is crazy, he wasn't just the golden boot winner that year he was the European golden boot winner....
I'm a fully bias Chelsea fan, but I gotta back Drogba 09-10 season vs Shearer 94-95
Minutes per goal
Shearer - 111min WITH 11 PENS
Drgoba - 102min WITHOUT PENS 96min if you include his 1 pen
Both 13 assists but Shearer played 10 more games!
Cant believe it was dismissed without even checking playtime, Drogba wins on STATS. The thing that always goes against him, still has 8 cup goals too
Completely agree they just brushed over it just cause shearer is all time goalscorer in the prem and didn’t take into account prime season cause they knew drogba would win if they talk about that
Les Ferdinand, Andy Cole, Owen, Fowler..... Van Nistelrooy, Alan Shearer, Henry..... Sturridge had a super season ... Suarez was admirable
These brackets are so weirdly laid out, massive players against each other so early on and then absolute stinkers vs. the goats
32nd vs 1, 31st vs 2nd… 15th vs 16th. That’s how these kind of things always work, there’s no other way to do it which is fairer
90's was easier to score goals? The tackles that lead to shearers injuries would have been red cards and six month bans on today's standard's, in todays game Shearer would bury Kane and Hallands number without a shadow of a doubt. whereas in the 90's (don't kid yourselves here) the way modern player roll round and act like theyve been shot haaland and kane would be mediocre at best.
Torres’ best season eclipses Rooneys, simple. By your criteria you set out it should have been Torres for sure. For career Rooney dog walks Torres, but unfortunately that wasn’t the debate
I don’t think it’s really fair to always judge it on just one season cuz that massively favours players whose prime lasted for 1 year only. The reason why Aguero and Suarez is close is not because Suarez didn’t have a better singular season but because Aguero’s prime lasted for 4-5 years!
Suarez prime lasted 6 years, just the majority were in Spain
@@robbiebrady7793being arguably the best player in a treble winning season too.
It may seem an outrageous shout but many Barca fans believe it.
Would it not be Jermain Defoe instead of Dwight Yorke? Feels strange not having Jermaine defoe in this list, I'm sure hes had a banger season at some point.
I think this video ended up having fair selections but incorrect descriptions. Prime doesn't just have to mean a prime season, and the number of seasons (or at least the percentage of seasons of your total PL tenure) you're in your prime should be a factor as well. But all in all quite fair I'd say.
Even pretending that the prime season of Rooney is even comparable to Suarez from the 13/14 season is total bias.
31 non-penalty goals having missed the first 8 or so games of the season as well as 13 assists is just insane given how unbelievable his all round play was. Truly unstoppable
I’m so excited for the centre back debate. That one will be colossal.
Terry all day long IMO. Rio, Vidic, VVD and sol campbell are up there as well.
@@upthechels90as a prime season it's obviously vvd
This should have been done on strikers, no 9's, Henry & co was just a wide forward not a striker
good video. was a bit jarring towards the end when you started using stats from their careers. why even bother wasting your time researching those stats when you know the debate will be about a players best individual season. for me the final should have been suarez and henry. anything kane did suarez could do it better.
edit: i also believe henry doesnt play to his peak ability in todays premier league, the amount of space he has to run into for most of his goals is ridiculous. teams nowadays are way better set up to prevent leaving space for players like henry.
tons missing from the shortlist, and I don't disagree with most the picks
No one here has ever seen anything like that suarez season from a football player. Not just good stats but the types of goals he scored were unbelievable. Henry’s highlight reel doesn’t even wash the shoes of Suarez. Easy win for him
All opinions obviously but i think Henry, rooney are as much strikers as son and salah.
Would have been better concept if you'd stated the best season/run of seasons for each player it would have taken career/trophy bias out of it.
The trophy balance is nonsense if fowler in his prime was in the city team last year I'd back him to score similar to haaland and this goes for suarez/cole/shearer/wright/owen etc
Basically okay concept ruined by Joe twisting into the debate he wanted to have.
Actually had to turn off. Just too long winded and Joe's knowledge on older players was too weak to give a real debate on players before 2010.
Shame I love your work usually James.
if you are truly discussing one season, it is hands down between Suarez, Andy Cole and Halland. That is why it was ridiculous to pick Henry over Halland. 😂 you guys are biased. 😂 And Kane over Shearer, without considering Shearer’s PL winning vs and Kane’s ZERO trophies ? 😂
Kane over Shearer is a disgrace. Kane most seasons wasn’t even the best player in his team (Son).
Kane also took top scorer and top assister in the league in one season
Need this for every position
Not sure I see Joe's logic about famous winger Son Heung-Min being unlucky not to get on a striker's list.
48:10 Depends what year you are referencing. In the early Henry years at Arsenal, Bergkamp was the better player. Henry surpassed him over time tho.
Weird one cause the argument for each one was different. The prime season thing kept being brought up, but if you are going solely off their peak/best season then Suarez or Haaland are the winners, end of
Andy Cole had 34 goals and 13 assists without a SINGLE penalty for a newly promoted team. Could easy be the winner here.
Suarez best season is by far the best ever performed in the Premier League.
Ronaldo 07/08
Not even close mate.@@dazza4105
@@dazza4105 Yeah hate to admit it (LFC fan) but Ronaldo was on another planet to anything I've seen in this league that season. That Suarez season might be second though.
Aguero had a better season in 13/14
@@ironheade22 that’s mental, Suarez and Ronaldo’s seasons are both well clear of agueros
If it’s prime it’s Suarez. Easily.
Honestly if shearer had gone to Man Utd instead of Newcastle, I don’t think this would have even been a conversation.
Love the vardy respect from James. The man doesn’t miss!
3:40 today I learned James is 37 years old...!!! What?!
Unreal collab
1 Season (Haaland), Peak (Suarez), Overall (Henry)
Its like you forgot it was peak season
Glad to skip to the end and see that it is Henry! No other answer makes sense. 🐐
Nitwits. Ian Rush straddled the introduction of the EPL and outscored all of these. He's certainly ahead of all the Liverpool candidates and in the Final.
Henry vs Suarez for best peak season of these strikers is the best matchup for the final.
Every argument made for Rooney should have put Le Tissier through against RVN.
Phillips won the European golden shoes ffs.
James you bottled it there... Should have taken it to the vote for Torres v Rooney. Yes Rooney is a premier league great but that first season with Torres is up there with the great individual seasons.
I don't really understand this, one minute stats trump the other player, then it's a club achievement or clear bias from the united fan. Which is it, numbers or factors outside of that? If you're just going on how good the player was in terms of skill. Bergkamp wins the whole thing.
I think the conversation shifted back and forth between "best player" and "best striker" a little too often. Best player is easily Thierry Henry, but best striker is between Haaland/Kane/Shearer for me.
Hey James think this is a great idea and thing but I think next time you should do it a bit quicker like just shoot off some names quick fire quick stats quick facts thoughts like really debate the greats but the simple ones just quickly do it cause I think the fact it’s such a long vid is off putting for many people
I still dont see how Suarez didn't win maybe its cuz i wasnt around to really watch henry but the season from Suarez was just different even if his peak was at barca
Seems weird to make this about peaks, then ignore that and choose Henry and Kane who are the better choices overall, but whose peaks are behind Suarez and Shearer's. I'm a Newcastle fan so I may be biased on that, but in the final Suarez wins, his peak was insane. Cole should be waaaaay higher too.
Henry had 44 G/A in the league in the unbeaten season. This wasn’t even mentioned in the video. Henry prime is an all round striker was the best the league has ever seen. Suarez is the only one who came close, and if they’d won the league that season it may have been him
As a goal scorer Haland might go down as one of the greatest or maybe the 1. But as a complete cf , Thierry Henry, you cannot look left or right coz he was just phenomenal , he used to destroy his opponents,
Can you explain why he's more complete
@@csbdcsbd8728 better g/a per 90 than Haaland, more involved in the play, scored more types of goals. I assume you weren’t old enough to watch Henry, but he’s the best player this country has ever seen, and it’s not actually that close (Salah, KdB, Kane and Rooney being the next 4 imo)
James : Salah is not a striker.
Also James : Popular Southampton and England midfielder Matthew Le Tissier... is a striker.
Shearer led a plucky Blackburn Rovers to the title against Alex Ferguson's golden generation. It's not the sexy answer, but it is the correct one
Thomlinson's bias is outrageous !!
"Let's put stats aside" and "TroPhieS!!" has to be used constantly !!
This is not about best playee, but best striker.
Tores being "The Man", means he's the ONE the opposition needs to take care of, rather than being one of THREE the opposition s scared of at once.
JLA would have done this better on his own.
Henry deserves better than to be compared to Salah and KDB. Those two are not untouchable
51:15 I ruined it for myself, had to check the comments. Raging - Henry is obviously the GOAT but peak season it’s semi-comfortably Suarez. 31 non pen goals, 17 assists all whilst missing the first 5 games of the season - playing with fucking Jon flanagan, mignolet, aly cissohko, Lucas leiva, joe Allen ffs
The argument of better players allowing is a nonsense, if they were that could they would have been bought, the only time that argument can be used is internationally.
I also dislike the he scored more because he had more chances, we cannot start comparing stats that exist to possible stats in a fantasy world
Suarez beats Aguero if we are talking 1 season. Aguero bests Suarez if we are talking about PL career. Suarez beats Aguero if we talk overall career. Period.
Harder to score goals now then the 90s is a crazy statement defenders are literally not allowed to touch a striker these days giving them way more breathing space back then they could just crunch you so you had to be way smarter to score goals think shearer beats Kane any day of the week clear recency bias there
You're clearly not thinking with an intelligent mind as to how piss poor the tactics and player iq was back in those dinosaur days. Genuinely a ridiculous statement
We all know the vampire has the best season the pl has ever seen by a land slide
I love how mad people in the comments get 😅 it’s not some premier league list this is just a video. It’s not that deep lol
Good concept but ye kept going away from the "prime" and trying to justify some choices with longevity. Henry was great over time but prime season has to be Suarez. Le tis over van and Phillips scoring 30 for Sunderland gets beat by hassle seriously? Torres and Rooney is a tough one but Rooney did win them a title after van Persie left
Would have preferred if James did this video with just him and the chat 😂😂😅
Why does James hate drogba so much
surely prime could and should be a string of seasons in a row? if a player scores thirty in one then dips and another player scores 25 for 5 seasons in a row - id argue the latter has a better prime…
i get its rhetoric but hey
Where's Lacazette?
So Torres scored 3 less than Rooney and took no pens? He also came 3rd in the ballon dor. You slept on Torres then. His peak he was the best striker in the world.
Sutton only managed 15 goals in the title winning season.
Joe trying to put Rooney over Suarez based on prime is one of the most biased shouts I’ve ever seen. Suarez had the best individual season in prem history.
Rooney was better than Suarez in his prime, imo. Suarez had 1 transcendent season at Liverpool and 1 great season at Liverpool. Rooney's prime was much longer, from his 2nd season at Man United in 05-06 to around 2013-2014, and he won much more over that period of time. Rooney's prime would've lasted longer if the injuries didn't start piling up and he wasn't required to play almost every game for United. Suarez scored more goals in a singluar season than Wayne, however; Wayne Rooney had multiple seasons with double digit goals and assists, as well as winning 5 titles at United, as their best player, by far.
And this is coming from an unbiased source, since I'm a West Ham fan, and actively enjoy both Suarez and Rooney as footballers. So I'm not mad that you went with Suarez, but I just do not agree, respectfully🤝
@@Young_Brumm15 What is Rooney’s prime season tho? Joe literally couldn’t even name a prime time and that sums it up. It doesn’t matter how long the prime was, the question is AT THEIR PRIME who was better. Suarez scored 31 goals and got 17 assists while missing 8 games of the season, and taking not a single penalty. That is absolutely unheard of mate.
Rooney’s best season is either 17 goals and 12 assists or 27 goals and 7 assists, and those numbers simply do not compare to Suarez’s numbers in 13/14. Add in the fact that Rooney played with teammates who were on a different PLANET than Suarez’s Liverpool teammates and you simply cannot take Rooney over him prime for prime mate.
Don’t give me that talk of “what he won” either. Those are team trophies and what Suarez did that season should win ANY team trophies if his teammates aren’t absolutely garbage.
@@nathaningram3382 The reason that I harped on it so much is that Joe and James were so inconsistent when it came to talking about players' peaks and primes. When it came to Harry Kane being compared with Vardy, Joe said that Kane had a 5 year prime that could match up with many strikers, and that even though Vardy had a better singular season (winning the Prem and scoring in 13 games straight), it doesn't matter because Harry Kane did it for longer. But when it came to Aguero and Rooney, who had better primes than Suarez in the Prem, it was all about that 1 season peak and how Suarez's one season was better than either of the two players that I named.
@@nathaningram3382 I'm just confused on the criteria that James and Joe are going by. When I read and hear the word "prime" I think of someone's career, or at least the years that they were massively successful and put up good numbers. "Peak," which is what James and Joe meant to say, is someone's best season or best 2-3 seasons, if you catch my drift. If we are talking straight up numbers for one season, then I can't argue against you because Suarez has better numbers in the 13-14 season than Rooney and Aguero. Rooney's best season by numbers would be 11-12, where he had 27 goals and 4 assists in the Prem, but if we include the Champions League and Europa League (since they went down), it would total 32 goals and 5 assists. Aguero was in 14-15, with 26 goals 8 assists.
If we are talking based on the true definition of what a prime is, when it goes to Aguero and Rooney hands down, no competition. However, I will be say that by going by the "prime" argument, it would be unfair to Suarez because he was only at Liverpool for 4 seasons.
@@Young_Brumm15 Nah I get you man, and it’s especially hard when Joe uses certain criteria for some and others when his bias affects it, like with Rooney. The question of how long their prime is doesn’t really come into account, it’s just how GOOD they were in their prime. Of course Rooney’s premier league prime lasted far longer than Suarez’s, Luis was only there for a few seasons lol. However as you’ve just admitted, the numbers in Suarez’s prime are undeniable. I do get what you’re saying but when the question is who was the best at their prime I struggle to take ANYONE over Suarez thanks to that season.
Sorry but half of the point you made for suarez against others then changed points. I thought it was supposed to be who had the best season in terms of goals he missed the 1st 1/4 of the season and prob would have had more than haalands last season stupid really don't change points for different players the criteria has to be the same.
If Suarez beat rooney he beats the lot in terms of best singular season season no debate
Henry and Suarez getting a lot of attention. Henry performed against the big teams and ripped them apart. Watching him you just cannot describe.
Suarez is definitely 2nd though, and it’s close.
1. Henry
2. Suarez
3. Rooney
4. Shearer
5. Torres
Which big teams did he perform against
@@csbdcsbd8728 Man Utd, Juve, Real Madrid, Inter Milan.
where’s michu