One clarification: The price for the Camera Module 3 is still $25-not $35 as stated in the video-at least for the standard versions. The wide-angle versions of both the normal and NoIR camera modules are $35.
just got an email about this camera!, very cool. thanks for the video. Its a bit more expensive here in sweden, equal to 46 USD. (33 for the V2). Have a V3 on order :) ships 18th january. edit: actually found it for 33 USD here in Sweden now.. ah well :D
You gave me a spook, it's 34 USD in my country and I was dumbfounded. Of course it's $25 and with import tariff it ends up being $34. Thanks for the first impressions, hope you're doing well Jeff.
So glad you are up and running. Love your humor and your joy of life. And every time you show one of your projects it makes me feel I cooperated with them (even when I never ever would build one) Thank you!
Great to see you back up and about again, hope the recovery is going well. For the price that's pretty good performance in my book. It would be nice if they also offered a more expensive version with better lenses for people who want / need it but it seems that's pretty much covered by other offerings anyway.
I'd be interested in seeing this case being expanded to the idea of holding an internal battery. I have a couple of unused Raspberry Pis and as a amateur hobbyist photograph, this looks like a fun and cool idea.
I've built a few Pi-based cameras that stream over LAN and are powered by PoE, so it's not wireless, but it's a single cable installation which suits me fine, and the screen I used was connected via the DSI port which made the preview video butter smooth. I also used the HQ camera because I wanted interchangeable lenses, but overall it was a very satisfying build.
@dtebarrett I did something like this but used the arducam module as it was the only autofocus maodule at the time (last year). But tl;dr mjpeg-streamer was the route I took. But considering the picamera2 python library now used by the pi means you can build a very simple python webserver to stream images. If you use mjpeg-streamer route you still need something like stunnel4 to ensure encrypted streams over ssl, but the python server route should have options to use ssl direct.
Honest question. Why do people do this instead of just getting something like a Wyze camera and flashing open source firmware on it? The quality is 100x better and it's cheaper. I'm a nerd that loves this stuff to, but some things are just way more work then they are worth....unless I'm missing something?
@@dtebarrett Im using the UV4L streaming server. Initially I used VLC bit found that the latency was unacceptable. But UV4L is quite good. Not perfect, but it allows a HTML configuration page and latency is minimal so its useful.
@@isaackvasager9957 I cannot say why other people do this, but I would wager it's probably for the same reasons I like doing it, and it's for the joy of making it yourself and solving the technical problems that come with it. By buying a ready-made camera most of those problems are solved for you and all the fun of working it out yourself is gone. I agree, a camera from a reputable manufacturer will be 10 times better and likely more reliable, but there will be no love in it. My Pi camera looks like a Soviet cold war monstrosity, but I love it because I made it.
Great video Jeff! It really shows how much camera tech has improved, 25$ can get you quite far At the same time it shows how much is happening in software nowadays where it's never just one picture taken but several stitched together for sharpness better lighting and exposure, aided by a bunch of machine learning in the image processing stage I really hope we can get an open source camera software at some point that's at least close to the quality of modern cameras because the idea of a DIY camera you can actually modify yourself is awesome.
I was playing around with CHDK running on an old point and shoot camera at one point. This allows saving raw images and manual control + scripting in models that normally don't allow this. Even on this older style camera, the raw image was a grainy, distorted mess compared to the jpg image processed by the camera.
there are a few special drivers for that screen that gives it better framerate, people have developed it for portable arcade builds where frame-rate is needed for games, might help your viewfinder experiance
Jeff, you seem to be doing so well. Appear strong and energetic. What a nice surprise and answer to many prayers. Keep up the great work. Love the videos.
Hey Jeff. Thanks for all of your videos. I love the content and as a fellow STL guy, I love all of the STL love. As a matter of fact, I used to be responsible for the inspection/maintenance for that railroad bridge, back when I worked for that railroad. Keep it up!
Use a piSugar for power. It works really well on a Superman Lego radio I made. Add a shutdown button to power down and power up (Howchoo has a good script for that). And can you add a cheap flash? Also, does it take the pictures in RAW or JPG? It would be good to just have it take RAW images that can be processed in post.
"Like our SPONSOR!". For a minute there, I thought I'd entered the Twilight Zone and this was LTT. Seriously though, great video and very timely - got a notification this morning about the release of the Camera Module 3 and was on the fence about buying. I think I'll wait for now. It's also really great to see you back and looking so well, Jeff.
Well it's not everyday that I see a TH-camr with such a quality video just a few miles from where I live... LOL. Appreciate the content, looking into this for a project!
I'd love to learn more about the projects you do for your daughter, that's really adorable. It could be just a community post if you don't think it is worth a whole video
This would be amazing for long time lapse photography, for example a plant growing. Professionals in this field connect the grow lights with the camera, having them on during day cycle, then toggled on/off for photos at night. Pi would be great for this!
Really glad you got through your hospital stay and back to making videos. Hope you're feeling normal-ish! Keep up the videos my guy, I know so many people that enjoy your channel!
Hey Jeff, I love DIY stuff and it seems you take it to another level! Awesome! All I need is a 3D printer and your instructions. I learned a lot from this video. Keep this up and I hope this finds you well and healthy.
I agree with everyone else... It's great to see you back! I may have to see if I can find one at Microcenter just to take a stab at designing a case. Looks like a great project!
Great vid Jeff. You have given me a steer for a project that I have in building a cctv system. Unfortunately still waiting for rpi's to be available in the uk :(
i hope they keep developing the interface and making it easier for translator interfaces to be imposed between the camera and the connection so we can get modules that let the pi talk to professional, full frame sensors so parts of old DSLRs with dead controller boards can get a new lease on life
There's a few LCD screens for the pi that use DSI which gives better performance than the ones that plug into the GPIO headers which typically use SPI if memory serves. You can also squeeze a little bit more performance out of SPI of you do frame buffer copying. Idk if the old frame buffer tricks still work or not though.
They do, on better drivers, but the one Waveshare ships didn't have the right tweaks. It might be possible to fix it though, I just haven't had the time to dig deeper.
@@JeffGeerling If memory serves I had to trick the pi into thinking that HDMI was connected and then copy that frame over to SPI. Found someone doing it github. Idk if that helps. Good luck. Cool stuff.
@@cprogrck Yeah I saw a few instances of that but couldn't get any other drivers for the same screen to compile on the custom image I was testing with. Hopefully we can get that solved!
Hey Jeff, could you please make a video to test it the various pi camera modules can be used to build a digital microscope for electronic repairs? Thanks. Phishing lines optional. 😉
I will use the Arducam HD version or something like that. Don't know the name at the moment but it is basically exactly the same as the Pi HQ Cam with the sole difference being that it has 4 lanes of CSI-2 instead of 2 lanes. Meaning I can record 4k video. Problem the RPi4 doesn't have a 4 Lan csi-2 interface, so I will have to use the CM4 which does. Also the RPi can't encode 4k H265 so I want to connect an FPGA via PCIe which encodes it in H.265 or maybe AV1.
I so far haven't found any way of encoding H.265 (or especially AV1) in a reasonable/performant way on the Pi. So far the GPU features for that are also locked behind drivers that don't like the Pi CM4's funky PCIe bus... but maybe we'll get that working someday!
The GPU for the BCM2711, as per the RPi datasheet, seems to only be able to do H.265(4k60 decode) and H.264(1080p60 decode, 1080p30 encode) so the most optimal path would be using what the hardware supports OOB, otherwise a dedicated accelerator will have to be used to encode/decode same or better codecs. Though do be wary of doing hardware accelerated encoding as it may increase the size of the resulting file by a ludicrous amount that would quickly fill up whatever storage medium you intend to use. So if you manage to develop or find such a solution, please do share it :D
Great video, I love the Pikon camera housing! Have a look at the HyperPixel 4.0 as a display alternative, it’s a 4” IPS display with capacitive touch - I bought one a while back for a project that I never got around to finishing.
I'll second the HyperPixel 4.0. It's a nice looking screen that uses the Pi's header pins instead of SPI. For what it's worth, my project runs an MQTT broker but is also unfinished!
Loved the camera you put together! Enjoyed the comparison between the iPhone and the camera you made with the Module 3. I would be interested in comparing the differences between the Module 3 and the Module 2. Looking forward to your next video!
You did not suffer enough in hospital -> let's throw pi camera module in your general direction :) Great video. I wonder how much better the lens/sensor in the phone really is and how much is software "magic".
Haha exactly. I was 50/50 on making a video on this since I'm at the tail end of the most annoying part of recovery... but I got a ton of energy in the past week so decided to knock it out and see how it goes! Going to get some sleep now, though. They launch these things at 2 a.m. my time lol
I'd like to see some experiments with this: 1) Comparisons of this with the HQ camera. 2) Modding the lens to be higher quality. 3) Running Android on the Pi and using the Google Pixel camera app. That may possibly result in better software processing that would compare with the iPhone more.
I’m curious if the HQ version would have been a better choice for the camera based on the number of various lenses available to choose from. Also, have any other ccd’s ever been used in place of the basic pi camera ccd modules.
Great video Jeff. Just a quick question. Is it possible to make this screen-free, so like a proper film point and shoot? What is the purpose of having a screen? Thanks!
I don't think it'd work too well in regards of collecting heat via radiation and convection if you leave it inside your vehicle in the sun or a hot day in the shade. It would probably thermal throttle or outright die unless you blast it with cold air from the front windscreen defroster. Otherwise it'd be a somewhat decent DIY to test granted you'd have to figure a power solution that either taps into the hot line on your battery or have a internal "ups" backup for limited runtime when the ignition is off.
Thanks. Good vid on an exciting topic. A whole bunch of "I wonder if". (I thought we were going to have some outtakes at last "sponsored by" quip but no joy -- I missed that end tag.)
0:20 nice upgrade but is not nice if is not compatible with a Raspberry Pi 5 :((, they provided me with the components, I notice that the connector for the RasPi 5 is smaller than this flex cable of the Camera Module V3 :// even with V2 is the same issue
I wonder if the tiny bit of video stutter was from writes to the SD card not keeping up? It would be interesting to see the same camera module tested with a zero 2, a Pi 4, and a CM4 using SD, emmc, and a m.2 SSD for comparisons. Clamp the camera module itself in a fixed position and have it aimed at something that moves in a repeatable predictable pattern so the output from all 5 runs can be compared. If the zero 2 can keep up I'd say it would be the ideal host system for the printed camera since it would leave a lot more room inside the case for a battery and it would take lass power. At the other end in theor somebody could make a custom CM4 carrier board with a slot for a SSD and including a dedicated header for a shutter release and maybe a few other hardware buttons and include a battery circuit for dropping in a battery pack. Because the CM4 can use two camera modules if two headers are included on the carrier the case could be designed for two side by side modules allowing for options like stereo photos, one for regular and one IR, or one regular FOV and one wide.
Question : is it possible to remove the lens from the PCB and add a longer cable between lens and pcb? I'm wondering if it would be possible to make a really small camera (endoscope)
What are some options for a battery power source that is small rechargeable and portable. Like the smallest you recommend which can run the raspberry for at least hour
Your plethora of knowledge is needed. I’d greatly appreciate the help. I have a pi4 that’s being used headless to 3d print using octoprint. There are no settings I have been able to find in octoprint to change image quality however I suspect it has to be changed in the pi. I have ssh’ed into the pi and gone into settings but it doesn’t show anything for quality adjustments like I’ve seen the menu display in other videos. So then I got a web came that’s 1080 and it also defaulted to 480 making it pretty useless. The ai can’t even recognize the item printing. Is there a command to change in the cli or do you have any suggestions how to fix it. I’ve tried all the common things. Thank you
6:50, nope the difference in clarity between the two is the image processing and upscaling happening in the iPhone. The lenses are pretty much about the same.
A bit of the difference is from that, but the lens on the standard FoV version isn't quite up to par and can't resolve the same amount of detail. Applying sharpening in post in Photoshop still can't get close to the iPhone's result, if looking at tiniest details like the window on the tower.
@@JeffGeerling Of course applying sharpening in photoshop won't get close. because that's not what apple is doing. Run the image through Topaz labs gigapixel and you'll get closer, but the image processing apple is doing on the Iphone is legit next level. The improvements in image quality on phones has nothing to do with the sensor or glass, it's software. MKBHD explains here: th-cam.com/video/88kd9tVwkH8/w-d-xo.html
Jeff, you didn't seem to do a follow-up on the noIR camera, I'm genuinely curious if it was decent at night. Did you ever get around to testing it, if so was it any good at low light?
My friend, do you think it is possible for me to create a digital back for my Hasselbad? I would have to fix the focal length, if I bought the camera with the lens, or I would have to have an optical element that compensates for the difference in sensor sizes, if I choose to use the sensor option without a lens.
you used to ssh in some Yi cameras back in the day and gopro has custom firmware that lets you do a lot of weird stuff. I used to be a developer for CHDK & Magic Lantern, we have created wonders, 10 YEARS ago.
One clarification: The price for the Camera Module 3 is still $25-not $35 as stated in the video-at least for the standard versions. The wide-angle versions of both the normal and NoIR camera modules are $35.
good to see you're up and about. :-) :-) continue to get well and sending you lots of positive thoughts. :D
just got an email about this camera!, very cool. thanks for the video. Its a bit more expensive here in sweden, equal to 46 USD. (33 for the V2). Have a V3 on order :) ships 18th january. edit: actually found it for 33 USD here in Sweden now.. ah well :D
Your video about blowing red shirt Jeff, last year???
Um is that what you really meant?
You gave me a spook, it's 34 USD in my country and I was dumbfounded. Of course it's $25 and with import tariff it ends up being $34. Thanks for the first impressions, hope you're doing well Jeff.
9:15 you Now ! Jeff have found a market gap its small but can be good.
I hope you’re feeling well Jeff and continue to be on the mend. Your dedication to pushing out content is pretty amazing.
me too, it may pre-recorded, before hand ? just set publish on a set day?
So glad you are up and running. Love your humor and your joy of life. And every time you show one of your projects it makes me feel I cooperated with them (even when I never ever would build one) Thank you!
Great to see you back up and about again, hope the recovery is going well. For the price that's pretty good performance in my book. It would be nice if they also offered a more expensive version with better lenses for people who want / need it but it seems that's pretty much covered by other offerings anyway.
Glad to see your doing well Jeff.
Happy to see you doing well! My motionEye setup was eagerly waiting for something like this to be out!
I'd be interested in seeing this case being expanded to the idea of holding an internal battery.
I have a couple of unused Raspberry Pis and as a amateur hobbyist photograph, this looks like a fun and cool idea.
it would be great if u could ship one😅
@@tarun4.6 was just about to comment the same
The camera module is decent. A bit of post-processing in the form of tonemapping should bring a massive improvement. Definitely usable.
Wonder if any of the Buster vs Bullseye stuff will prevent Raw output, DNG's from the new module would make post work easier.
@Karl with a K Sure, but can you run Raspbian on it?
That sponsorship segway at the end really got me and was so entertaining!
I've built a few Pi-based cameras that stream over LAN and are powered by PoE, so it's not wireless, but it's a single cable installation which suits me fine, and the screen I used was connected via the DSI port which made the preview video butter smooth. I also used the HQ camera because I wanted interchangeable lenses, but overall it was a very satisfying build.
How did you set it up to stream over LAN?
@dtebarrett I did something like this but used the arducam module as it was the only autofocus maodule at the time (last year).
But tl;dr mjpeg-streamer was the route I took. But considering the picamera2 python library now used by the pi means you can build a very simple python webserver to stream images.
If you use mjpeg-streamer route you still need something like stunnel4 to ensure encrypted streams over ssl, but the python server route should have options to use ssl direct.
Honest question. Why do people do this instead of just getting something like a Wyze camera and flashing open source firmware on it? The quality is 100x better and it's cheaper. I'm a nerd that loves this stuff to, but some things are just way more work then they are worth....unless I'm missing something?
@@dtebarrett Im using the UV4L streaming server. Initially I used VLC bit found that the latency was unacceptable. But UV4L is quite good. Not perfect, but it allows a HTML configuration page and latency is minimal so its useful.
@@isaackvasager9957 I cannot say why other people do this, but I would wager it's probably for the same reasons I like doing it, and it's for the joy of making it yourself and solving the technical problems that come with it. By buying a ready-made camera most of those problems are solved for you and all the fun of working it out yourself is gone. I agree, a camera from a reputable manufacturer will be 10 times better and likely more reliable, but there will be no love in it. My Pi camera looks like a Soviet cold war monstrosity, but I love it because I made it.
Great video Jeff - loved the comparison with the iPhone lens!
Thanks, and I loved the PIKON case you made ;)
Good to see you back on your feet 😊
I already spent my January budget on the self-hosted project but I hope I can get a new cam module in February.
Glad to see you're back in action. Been praying for you.
I had no idea a new pi cam was being released. Thanks for the heads up and honest look!
Hope you are feeling better!
Great video Jeff!
It really shows how much camera tech has improved, 25$ can get you quite far
At the same time it shows how much is happening in software nowadays where it's never just one picture taken but several stitched together for sharpness better lighting and exposure, aided by a bunch of machine learning in the image processing stage
I really hope we can get an open source camera software at some point that's at least close to the quality of modern cameras because the idea of a DIY camera you can actually modify yourself is awesome.
I was playing around with CHDK running on an old point and shoot camera at one point. This allows saving raw images and manual control + scripting in models that normally don't allow this. Even on this older style camera, the raw image was a grainy, distorted mess compared to the jpg image processed by the camera.
Glad to see you are doing well Jeff, love you videos.
I love that LTT-style transition to the sponsor! Keep up the great work, Jeff!
there are a few special drivers for that screen that gives it better framerate, people have developed it for portable arcade builds where frame-rate is needed for games, might help your viewfinder experiance
Jeff, you seem to be doing so well. Appear strong and energetic. What a nice surprise and answer to many prayers. Keep up the great work. Love the videos.
Good to have you back, Jeff! Hope you are feeling better.
Hats off to you man for being consistent after being in such dark place ...
Respect from India 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hey Jeff. Thanks for all of your videos. I love the content and as a fellow STL guy, I love all of the STL love. As a matter of fact, I used to be responsible for the inspection/maintenance for that railroad bridge, back when I worked for that railroad. Keep it up!
Great job on the video Jeff! Thanks for making it.
Glad to see you out of the hospital man. Don't push yourself and take it easy for a while.
Cool to see "Ship it on the FRISCO" on the railroad overpass. I grew up in Springfield, MO, which was the FRISCO hub.
Use a piSugar for power. It works really well on a Superman Lego radio I made. Add a shutdown button to power down and power up (Howchoo has a good script for that). And can you add a cheap flash? Also, does it take the pictures in RAW or JPG? It would be good to just have it take RAW images that can be processed in post.
Hey buddy stay strong. Great vid. Rooting for ya
Thank you! Feeling a lot better this week!
"Like our SPONSOR!". For a minute there, I thought I'd entered the Twilight Zone and this was LTT.
Seriously though, great video and very timely - got a notification this morning about the release of the Camera Module 3 and was on the fence about buying. I think I'll wait for now. It's also really great to see you back and looking so well, Jeff.
Well it's not everyday that I see a TH-camr with such a quality video just a few miles from where I live... LOL. Appreciate the content, looking into this for a project!
I'd love to learn more about the projects you do for your daughter, that's really adorable. It could be just a community post if you don't think it is worth a whole video
I'd like to see it compare to the previous camera modules. Comparing it to any phone camera is not fair because all the post processing they do.
This would be amazing for long time lapse photography, for example a plant growing. Professionals in this field connect the grow lights with the camera, having them on during day cycle, then toggled on/off for photos at night. Pi would be great for this!
Really glad you got through your hospital stay and back to making videos. Hope you're feeling normal-ish! Keep up the videos my guy, I know so many people that enjoy your channel!
Great video, and i'm really happy seeing you feeling better.
Thanks jeff for your incredible work. Really appreciate your contributions!
Hey Jeff, I love DIY stuff and it seems you take it to another level! Awesome! All I need is a 3D printer and your instructions. I learned a lot from this video. Keep this up and I hope this finds you well and healthy.
Watch out, 3D printing will suck you in!
I agree with everyone else... It's great to see you back!
I may have to see if I can find one at Microcenter just to take a stab at designing a case. Looks like a great project!
Great vid Jeff. You have given me a steer for a project that I have in building a cctv system. Unfortunately still waiting for rpi's to be available in the uk :(
Not long now by the end of this year we should be back to the normal supply levels - cant wait.
The sensor has much potential, it needs better image processing.
Great video!
i hope they keep developing the interface and making it easier for translator interfaces to be imposed between the camera and the connection so we can get modules that let the pi talk to professional, full frame sensors so parts of old DSLRs with dead controller boards can get a new lease on life
That Linus-style ending was hilarious. The Pi camera seems really good for the price ❤️
Please do make more videos on this in the future Jeff.
That's crazy good AF (Auto Focus) for the price!
Great to see that more content, means more fixed Jeff up and about
It's a small world when you realize Jeff is doing his camera test right down the road from you :)
What if you give the camera module a Hubble treatment with a corrective lens? At least on top of software upgrades.
Love the PIKON 😅 great video Jeff!
New Pi Camera!?!! Yes please!!
Great video, Jeff. Thank you!
Really great LTT reference at the end there. Awesome.
"Just like this video's sponsor!" -- now THAT is a great segue
There's a few LCD screens for the pi that use DSI which gives better performance than the ones that plug into the GPIO headers which typically use SPI if memory serves. You can also squeeze a little bit more performance out of SPI of you do frame buffer copying. Idk if the old frame buffer tricks still work or not though.
They do, on better drivers, but the one Waveshare ships didn't have the right tweaks. It might be possible to fix it though, I just haven't had the time to dig deeper.
@@JeffGeerling If memory serves I had to trick the pi into thinking that HDMI was connected and then copy that frame over to SPI. Found someone doing it github. Idk if that helps. Good luck. Cool stuff.
@@cprogrck Yeah I saw a few instances of that but couldn't get any other drivers for the same screen to compile on the custom image I was testing with. Hopefully we can get that solved!
Great to see you back at it and with humor in full force, Jeff. :) You're a credit to the human race.
Great to see you back!
Ooh perfect for my robot. Been wanting to upgrade the camera that isn't as big as the HQ camera
Yeah, these are great for being super tiny and lightweight for robotics!
i came here for robot comments, was nor disappointed
"Had rainbow filament left in from printing a unicorn for my daughter"
Thumbs up for no sponsor. One demerit for scaring the crap out of me with the mention.
Good to see you back on your feet, Jeff.
Hey Jeff, could you please make a video to test it the various pi camera modules can be used to build a digital microscope for electronic repairs? Thanks.
Phishing lines optional. 😉
That's one project I've considered building, this module focuses close enough it might be the best option!
I will use the Arducam HD version or something like that. Don't know the name at the moment but it is basically exactly the same as the Pi HQ Cam with the sole difference being that it has 4 lanes of CSI-2 instead of 2 lanes. Meaning I can record 4k video.
Problem the RPi4 doesn't have a 4 Lan csi-2 interface, so I will have to use the CM4 which does.
Also the RPi can't encode 4k H265 so I want to connect an FPGA via PCIe which encodes it in H.265 or maybe AV1.
I so far haven't found any way of encoding H.265 (or especially AV1) in a reasonable/performant way on the Pi. So far the GPU features for that are also locked behind drivers that don't like the Pi CM4's funky PCIe bus... but maybe we'll get that working someday!
The GPU for the BCM2711, as per the RPi datasheet, seems to only be able to do H.265(4k60 decode) and H.264(1080p60 decode, 1080p30 encode) so the most optimal path would be using what the hardware supports OOB, otherwise a dedicated accelerator will have to be used to encode/decode same or better codecs. Though do be wary of doing hardware accelerated encoding as it may increase the size of the resulting file by a ludicrous amount that would quickly fill up whatever storage medium you intend to use.
So if you manage to develop or find such a solution, please do share it :D
Is Dav1D encoding faster?
Great to have you back 👍
oh man you really read my mind, I was wondering about this for a week or so. Thanks!
Hey Jeff! Thanks for keeping me up to date on tech!
Great video, I love the Pikon camera housing! Have a look at the HyperPixel 4.0 as a display alternative, it’s a 4” IPS display with capacitive touch - I bought one a while back for a project that I never got around to finishing.
Hey, you're that guy!
heh, "bought one for a project I never got around to finishing" is the story of our lives!
I'll second the HyperPixel 4.0. It's a nice looking screen that uses the Pi's header pins instead of SPI.
For what it's worth, my project runs an MQTT broker but is also unfinished!
Hello! Fancy seeing you here!
I just got the v2 camera module, surprisingly good quality on the camera :o
Did you try to install android and test gcam( if api2camera is supported) ?
With this little module software make a lot of difference
Loved the camera you put together! Enjoyed the comparison between the iPhone and the camera you made with the Module 3. I would be interested in comparing the differences between the Module 3 and the Module 2. Looking forward to your next video!
You did not suffer enough in hospital -> let's throw pi camera module in your general direction :)
Great video. I wonder how much better the lens/sensor in the phone really is and how much is software "magic".
Haha exactly. I was 50/50 on making a video on this since I'm at the tail end of the most annoying part of recovery... but I got a ton of energy in the past week so decided to knock it out and see how it goes!
Going to get some sleep now, though. They launch these things at 2 a.m. my time lol
A comparison raspberry camera with the two cameras from arducam would be very interesting.
This is fantastic, especially comparing to such a flagship high end product like the Iphone pro. Alright pi people, pi dashcam when?
Thank you for unbiased review
Great video! What is the software you are using to compare two photos, so that you can zoom and move around on both equally?
That's Lightroom. I used to use Aperture, but Apple discontinued it a while back :(
I'd like to see some experiments with this:
1) Comparisons of this with the HQ camera.
2) Modding the lens to be higher quality.
3) Running Android on the Pi and using the Google Pixel camera app. That may possibly result in better software processing that would compare with the iPhone more.
What app were you using on your Mac when comparing the photos side by side?
Was that just apple photos?
(For example at 6:24)
Gonna built this project now, will add onboard power and improve the body a bit. thanks for sharing
I glad to see you looking well, great video thanks for the information.
Your link to the camera product page is broken, looks like it has an extraneous v in there (should be 3 instead of v3).
Yeah, sorry about that! Fixed now.
@@JeffGeerling cheers 👍
I love the fact you are wearing a St Louis City SC jersey!!!! I just got mine 2 weeks ago!
Can't wait to see them play!
@@JeffGeerling RIGHT!?!?! I am hoping to get season tickets
I’m curious if the HQ version would have been a better choice for the camera based on the number of various lenses available to choose from.
Also, have any other ccd’s ever been used in place of the basic pi camera ccd modules.
Great video Jeff. Just a quick question. Is it possible to make this screen-free, so like a proper film point and shoot? What is the purpose of having a screen? Thanks!
Pidashcam? Would be interested to see how it does in low light conditions
I don't think it'd work too well in regards of collecting heat via radiation and convection if you leave it inside your vehicle in the sun or a hot day in the shade. It would probably thermal throttle or outright die unless you blast it with cold air from the front windscreen defroster. Otherwise it'd be a somewhat decent DIY to test granted you'd have to figure a power solution that either taps into the hot line on your battery or have a internal "ups" backup for limited runtime when the ignition is off.
Video idea (because it's something I want to do): Solar powered security camera. Thanks for the video!
Thanks. Good vid on an exciting topic. A whole bunch of "I wonder if". (I thought we were going to have some outtakes at last "sponsored by" quip but no joy -- I missed that end tag.)
Good to see you up and about 😀
0:20 nice upgrade but is not nice if is not compatible with a Raspberry Pi 5 :((, they provided me with the components, I notice that the connector for the RasPi 5 is smaller than this flex cable of the Camera Module V3 :// even with V2 is the same issue
this is such a cool video!!! I am excited to look for the no IR filter/ night mode camera. hopefully it can be filtered for UV photography!
The rpilocator screenshot hit close to home lol. The new camera module wasn't even on my radar, great video!
You have radar? Heh
@@JeffGeerling Not yet! Have a pi compatible radar you'd recommend ;)?
I wonder if the tiny bit of video stutter was from writes to the SD card not keeping up?
It would be interesting to see the same camera module tested with a zero 2, a Pi 4, and a CM4 using SD, emmc, and a m.2 SSD for comparisons. Clamp the camera module itself in a fixed position and have it aimed at something that moves in a repeatable predictable pattern so the output from all 5 runs can be compared.
If the zero 2 can keep up I'd say it would be the ideal host system for the printed camera since it would leave a lot more room inside the case for a battery and it would take lass power. At the other end in theor somebody could make a custom CM4 carrier board with a slot for a SSD and including a dedicated header for a shutter release and maybe a few other hardware buttons and include a battery circuit for dropping in a battery pack.
Because the CM4 can use two camera modules if two headers are included on the carrier the case could be designed for two side by side modules allowing for options like stereo photos, one for regular and one IR, or one regular FOV and one wide.
Question : is it possible to remove the lens from the PCB and add a longer cable between lens and pcb?
I'm wondering if it would be possible to make a really small camera (endoscope)
I would love to build a DIY photo or video camera, but I'm not sure this is quite it yet. I'll be watching closely for updates though!
What are some options for a battery power source that is small rechargeable and portable. Like the smallest you recommend which can run the raspberry for at least hour
Your plethora of knowledge is needed. I’d greatly appreciate the help. I have a pi4 that’s being used headless to 3d print using octoprint. There are no settings I have been able to find in octoprint to change image quality however I suspect it has to be changed in the pi. I have ssh’ed into the pi and gone into settings but it doesn’t show anything for quality adjustments like I’ve seen the menu display in other videos. So then I got a web came that’s 1080 and it also defaulted to 480 making it pretty useless. The ai can’t even recognize the item printing. Is there a command to change in the cli or do you have any suggestions how to fix it. I’ve tried all the common things. Thank you
@Jeff Geerling ‐ lol "...just like this videos sponsor" had a bit of a LTT flair to it. Good job Jeff!
Hope to see a video to use the new camera for 3d printing monitoring with continuous autofocus enabled
Good to see you back ...
6:50, nope the difference in clarity between the two is the image processing and upscaling happening in the iPhone. The lenses are pretty much about the same.
A bit of the difference is from that, but the lens on the standard FoV version isn't quite up to par and can't resolve the same amount of detail. Applying sharpening in post in Photoshop still can't get close to the iPhone's result, if looking at tiniest details like the window on the tower.
@@JeffGeerling Of course applying sharpening in photoshop won't get close. because that's not what apple is doing. Run the image through Topaz labs gigapixel and you'll get closer, but the image processing apple is doing on the Iphone is legit next level. The improvements in image quality on phones has nothing to do with the sensor or glass, it's software.
MKBHD explains here: th-cam.com/video/88kd9tVwkH8/w-d-xo.html
Jeff, you didn't seem to do a follow-up on the noIR camera, I'm genuinely curious if it was decent at night. Did you ever get around to testing it, if so was it any good at low light?
As a CCTV or vision system for robotics, it seems like a good deal.
My friend, do you think it is possible for me to create a digital back for my Hasselbad? I would have to fix the focal length, if I bought the camera with the lens, or I would have to have an optical element that compensates for the difference in sensor sizes, if I choose to use the sensor option without a lens.
Great comparison. Thank you Jeff.
Thanks for the comprehensive review! Which version would you suggest for a 3D Printer timelapse camera .. 75 degree or 120 degree version?
you used to ssh in some Yi cameras back in the day and gopro has custom firmware that lets you do a lot of weird stuff. I used to be a developer for CHDK & Magic Lantern, we have created wonders, 10 YEARS ago.