5 Reasons Why...Thai Side Kick Is Better Than Regular Sidekick 😱

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  • I've been throwing karate side kicks since I was 7-8 years old. So why do I prefer this alternative which I've only been aware of for the last 10 years??? Today I list out the reasons I think you should start using the thai side kick (side teep) a bit more.
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  • @SenseiSeth
    @SenseiSeth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +327

    Blasphemy!! 😂😂 great video!

    • @javierandress5057
      @javierandress5057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      crossover with Gabriel!

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stanclark3992 hahaha! First genuinely funny thing you’ve ever said here. 👍😆

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hahaha! Literally only just noticed the man himself Sensei Seth with that comment. Golden!! 👏
      I saw your vid on ‘best/most effective martial arts’ recently...yeah - it’s a hard pill to swallow, but we ALL know that Muay Thai is THE greatest stand-alone discipline...especially if we narrow it down to stand-up only.
      Namaste Sensei 🙏

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      PS. I’m just waiting for Jesse Enkamp’s arrival now. 😂🤣😆

    • @kaliguroman5535
      @kaliguroman5535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They work! Haha

  • @GabrielVargaOfficial
    @GabrielVargaOfficial  2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Remember you don't have to add the thai side kick and get rid of the karate side kick. Use both!
    You can see in the fight footage I included in the video that I still use both.
    Always adding to the technique data base 👌

    • @mykulpierce
      @mykulpierce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely great perspective!

    • @Sophisticlesenergy
      @Sophisticlesenergy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would live to see a breakdown of fighters that use the sidekick in mma and how to use/not use it!

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Sophisticlesenergy Samart Payakaroon. You’re welcome 😜

    • @JohnCena18285
      @JohnCena18285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would be nice to know in which situations it's good to use thai front and when to use side kick. Side kick is very useful when you miss your low/mid kick as a follow up.

    • @colorblind141293
      @colorblind141293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Gabriel. I noticed that you too have bow legs. I have them too, probably the same angle of deviation. Please tell me if they hampered your performance in any way.

  • @7PIPOCA
    @7PIPOCA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    This guy has the complete package: the knowledge and great communication and teaching skills. Awesome channel.

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s easily the best one imho

    • @brilliantz90
      @brilliantz90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree. Usually great player/fighter isn't necessarily great teacher and vice versa.

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@brilliantz90 Mr. Varga has it all. It’s not even annoying because he’s just soooo fookin humble too. 👏✌️🙏

  • @TristanBehrens
    @TristanBehrens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Id love to see a collab and maybe some sparring with Wonderboy

    • @paragon1782
      @paragon1782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would be amazing

    • @whoknows8223
      @whoknows8223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Gabriel is Canadian so Collab with Joe Valtellini or Jeff Chan would make sense (no flight)

    • @edwhlam
      @edwhlam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@whoknows8223 West coast vs “Central Canada”. It’s a 4 to 5 hours flight. I believe Jeff Chan is in Ottawa and Joe Valltellini is in Toronto. Unless it’s a virtual collab, and distance doesn’t matter. Even Toronto to Ottawa is 6 hours drive or an hour flight.

    • @TristanBehrens
      @TristanBehrens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@whoknows8223 Potentially. I just think their specific fighting styles would make for a highly entertaining sparring video.

    • @Docinaplane
      @Docinaplane 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure that would be fun,, but Gabriel's pro fighting days are over. Wonderboy has a few more fights.

  • @prvtthd401
    @prvtthd401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I use both in different situations. After I cut an angle my body is often better positioned for a quick thai side kick. But after missing a roundhouse, I might jam my opponent up if he decides to rush me. There are many more applications for both. Definitely experiment with both.

    • @trcs3079
      @trcs3079 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which kick boxing gym do you go too?

  • @darraghflynn8328
    @darraghflynn8328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've been watching this change for over a year and half now, Gabriel Varga is an inspiration and great teacher

  • @dudea3378
    @dudea3378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Muay thai side teep may be faster and longer ranged, but traditional side kick is made for absolute liver destruction. Body sidekick KO's are a thing. I've sure side teep KO's have happened before, but I've never seen one. It's really just a jab or push kick.

  • @mykulpierce
    @mykulpierce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Old school Taekwondo side kick has the knee coming forward with hip rotation in the extension! I feel like these are all great tools to have. Throwing the kick that best matches the circumstances you face.

    • @stanclark3992
      @stanclark3992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Michael. I defer to you on technical expertise... yet chambering is a fluid principle in application. CHEEERS.😔

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stanclark3992 constantly chambering kicks is a fantastic way to let your opponents know exactly what you’re about to come at them with. 🤷‍♂️

    • @stanclark3992
      @stanclark3992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulpelle3046 Part A. GV. Hi Paul. Say hi to GV for me. And no.🤨🤨

    • @stanclark3992
      @stanclark3992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulpelle3046 Part B. Chambering. Sport competitors like GV don't understand the 'principle' of chambering. It's quite brilliant, actually.😯😯

    • @stanclark3992
      @stanclark3992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulpelle3046 Part C. Sidekick not Seen Much. GV is correct in that in terms of applicability, the specifics of the technique do make it more time consuming,, more difficult to execute... in abstraction. The basic side kick is a power strike... that is it's proper applicability. It's 'harmonious' usage.🤐🤐

  • @ives3572
    @ives3572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I heavily practice and incorporate both side kicks in training and in my game, and based on my personal experience, the Thai side kick or side teep is better, as what you have pointed out in this video

  • @rodeaway813
    @rodeaway813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't normally comment; but dude you are indescribably helpful. There are many aspects of fighting that are hard to describe; let alone do. And here you are doing both better than 99.9% of the people in the community. Thank you for the insight. and thank you for risking your health for those of us that aren't 'there' yet. You're dope man. period.

  • @astonchui808
    @astonchui808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you always for knowledgeable information and clear teaching

  • @dolamike584
    @dolamike584 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!! Much respect Champ!!

  • @matthew-jy5jp
    @matthew-jy5jp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another great video Gabe

  • @Bertsan
    @Bertsan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sensei Seth! You are a gas!! Thanks again Gabriel. Love you guys!

  • @wasan5510
    @wasan5510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great videos from you, well explain.

  • @combat_sambo_crew
    @combat_sambo_crew 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for explaining and good lesson

  • @lenglithad77
    @lenglithad77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very convincing arguments. I'm gonna have to drill this one. I love how such a small hip movement can make such a difference.
    I see some commonalities with the TKD style side kick I learned as a kid, executed from a front kick chamber. But I can't say I've seen it used like this thai side kick, as you call it.
    Thanks for this deep dive into the side kick!

  • @DaveSinclairMedia
    @DaveSinclairMedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation on ball vs heel for this kick..thanks.

  • @closeredge5198
    @closeredge5198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was highly appreciated 🙏....the thai side kick is my FAVORITE and most utilized weapon, and allows great creativity in my attacks. Very clear analysis 👌

  • @lokhistormborn4165
    @lokhistormborn4165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All your videos are good so far

  • @brucelawby3140
    @brucelawby3140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You must have the most comments-to-views on TH-cam ; ) You're traditional side kick technique is perfect. I'm so envious that you can hold a kick at more than 90 and casually carry on a conversation. I didn't know that the Thai kickboxing style had a side kick. I think its a really effective set-up kick for a spinning kick combo.

  • @y0057
    @y0057 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good points 👌🏿

  • @kwestkickboxing
    @kwestkickboxing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Gabriel,
    I like to push off the planted leg an explosive hopping motion. It's than faster than a crossover step or a pendulum step.

  • @edgararakelyan9326
    @edgararakelyan9326 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant wait to watch your next fight. It will be like watching my own coach fight :)

  • @kacklerot
    @kacklerot ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered this kind of Teep or sidekick and I love it as I adopt a more square stance to be more aggressive since I been trying to add boxing to my arsenal. I have interest in becoming a pressure fighter and this "thai side kick" will be great. Coming from a heavy TKD kicking background I used to be a ranged fighter using only kicks so I was in a bladed stance I would use a heavy jab or backfist to setup low sidekicks then with the same chamber go up high to hook kick my opponent across the face. I haven't trained in TKD in awhile so I lost my flexibility to be able to hook kick or side kick so high. This "thai side kick" will be awesome until I can get my legs back conditioned to kick high again. It will be so chaotic using both as i switch from bladed to square depending on my goal. Thank you for showing this to us!

  • @brucehillbillybarthalow3786
    @brucehillbillybarthalow3786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've had high success using the traditional side kick countering outside lead leg kicks from my opponents.so they swing for the calf or thigh,I bring up the side kick into their chest.

  • @KarateDatu
    @KarateDatu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! Can't argue with anything you said... Just reasoned facts after facts.
    But I must add that Karate Sidekick is not designed to start of in a square stance, because mainstream karate fighters never fight on a square stance. That's the reason it doesn't work on a square stance. Kyokushin fighters fight on a square stance, hence why you never see them doing side kicks. The karate sidekick is actually designed for those standing on a side or long stance to be applied against an opponent who stands on a square stance. But on top of that, even mainstream karateka whom stand on long/side stance very seldom use the sidekick for offence, normally defence.
    All in all, these two kicks look like completely different kicks/techniques. Different techniques requires different methods of setting up.

  • @davids.7052
    @davids.7052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the great video. Coming from a Karate background, the Yoko-Geri is the only sidekick that I have ever known. In the future, how about a detailed instructional video on the Thai Side Kick, perhaps with some drills and/or exercises to improve?

  • @paulpelle3046
    @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven’t even got past intro yet (liked vid already obvs 🤷‍♂️), but yayyys Mr. Varga. What an awesome topic! 👌
    Personally? I prefer the Samart-style of sidekick. Not strictly Thai, not strictly karate, a lil bit TKD, and can be ised in a thousand unexpected ways and speeds.
    Very frustrating to fight against!!! 🙏

  • @mikertist347
    @mikertist347 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the great video! In a self defense scenario, which of these side kicks is better for taking out someone's knee? I feel like the karate side kick has a lot of power there, but I'd love to hear thoughts. Thanks!

  • @OCMOOMOMO
    @OCMOOMOMO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re crushing it.

  • @adamtankersley7441
    @adamtankersley7441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m a big fan of the step through/ slide to sidekick. It works great for a tall guy chasing down guys who really disengage or move way back when you attack.

  • @bobby9791
    @bobby9791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Samart Payakaroon had a great Thai side kick.

  • @becaliteodora3285
    @becaliteodora3285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a big fan
    Thanks for all

  • @user-vb8yl2lp4p
    @user-vb8yl2lp4p 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video and cool swords ! Do you use them or are they just decorative?

  • @CombatSelfDefense
    @CombatSelfDefense 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve actually never noticed this subtle difference before. I’m gonna give it a shot myself for a few weeks.

  • @ballyod
    @ballyod 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the look of the ‘?’ Kick. Glaube Feitosa used it brilliantly in K1.

  • @Thelucassiwy
    @Thelucassiwy ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m loving this kick.

  • @burt2800
    @burt2800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a TKD guy I find this offensive!
    *secretly looks up muay thai gyms in the area*

    • @healthyandrew5294
      @healthyandrew5294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've never seen this kick but it looks weak. TKD must be weaker.

    • @GabrielVargaOfficial
      @GabrielVargaOfficial  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Haha. Still use the karate side kick.
      But try this out too.
      Having both in the arsenal is the best option.

    • @TristanBehrens
      @TristanBehrens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@healthyandrew5294 Tell me you don't know what you're taking about without saying that you don't know what you're taking about...

  • @Ticlano
    @Ticlano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are your thoughts about the front Hook Kick, Gabriel? Amazing content as always!!

  • @jodajoda3791
    @jodajoda3791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Again great video :) IMO Only downside with the Thai side kick is you need more flexible hips than in a normal Tip and Regular Sidekick(so not good for all)

  • @jbandsnehemiah3544
    @jbandsnehemiah3544 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This vid great in my opinion

  • @arisnomidisbrazas326
    @arisnomidisbrazas326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Check out the Sanda side kick. It works so often it's insane.
    Almost got me 1st place in the national tournament.

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ll check it out bruh 👌

  • @amhawk8742
    @amhawk8742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've only done karate, but when I throw a side kick in sparring I throw it the thai way. I didn't learn it that way but it just feels more comfortable. Or sometimes I use a variation of Wonderboys side kick but without the chamber... Just picking the foot up in a straight line toward the target with the hips facing sideways but not bringing the knee out to the side.

  • @konpoy
    @konpoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i get yo point. but i got size 14 feet with really long skinny tows and not very interested in risking them getting jammed or elbowed. the way i do is usually off the front foot above the knee (for safety) screwing the foot in like a thai sidekick but still landing it with the heel. i am 6'6 so the sidekick is long enough. also, the heel gotta be a harder/better area of impact as the ball of the foot feels a bit flimsy. but i get yo point. thanks

  • @paulv7744
    @paulv7744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really love how all the styles are starting to merge..
    I saw this one guy.. either he was a wing chun guy bobbing and weaving or he was a boxer who does chain punches.. haha
    One day, there will be no more styles. it'll all just be called "striking"

    • @user-kz7wj5fl9r
      @user-kz7wj5fl9r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s just people that separate styles. Styles essentially all have the same techniques.

    • @Skycube100
      @Skycube100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's just convergent evolution at play. Yes it's a term more used for Animal Evolution, however I and some see it as a universal thing. And this is also another reason why some style have a lot of similarities with each other.
      Combat Striking systems designed for humans, of course there's going to be some similarites. The thing though is that some become more preferred than others because they're most likely a lot more effective and/or efficient.

    • @nicksalvatore5717
      @nicksalvatore5717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably a boxer! Some boxers do a sort of “chain punches”, I think i’ve seen Canelo do a repeating left right to the body then left right to the head in an extremely rapid succession. Mike Tyson did this as well. It’s mostly only practical for this application.
      Another practical application is a blitz of straight punches, left right left right like chain punches but these aren’t intended to land until the last one or two punches.

    • @chefxhyrule242
      @chefxhyrule242 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s low key what modern era mma is. We see judo wrestling bjj mixed and it’s all considered to be one thing “grappling” most mma schools teach a Muay Thai and boxing combination as there standard striking curriculum

  • @paulpelle3046
    @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nearly 100k subs? COME ON GABRIEL VARGA! Great stuff. 👏👏👏
    I 100% predict at LEAST 250k by this time next year. Let’s all work hard getting this man’s channel known. 💪🤜🤛💥
    A TRUE martial artist, sharing knowledge that’s worth a fortune to any martial arts practitioner.
    We all owe you a lot man 🙏🙏🙏

  • @brauliochavez2231
    @brauliochavez2231 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:55, pivoting back as you return your leg both motions in the same tempo usually fixes that, i think both have advantages and disadvantages, i do like the full sided side kick ( tkd) simply because i can use more rotation, and more muscles ( the pivot from the ground leg ). yet they are both good.

  • @n_s_352
    @n_s_352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A couple of interesting things about side kicks in Karate. One, if you check the old katas (except for the big modified versions in Shotokan), you'll find no actual side kicks or round house kicks, actually most kicks target the highest the mid section and a lot others are foot to leg or knee to body.
    Two, I believe you can go to a side kick (karate one) directly from the same position as the front kick and rotate sharply, doesn't help with the end of the move. That's why most karate fighters retract and land their front kick right next to the back one after finishing the kick and reshuffle back (tsugi ashi) to re-establish the safe distance.

    • @stanclark3992
      @stanclark3992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi elnibs. Ture.😅😅

  • @lokhistormborn4165
    @lokhistormborn4165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean, they're wisdom and thank you for that

  • @michaeld2716
    @michaeld2716 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the side kick, and you are right about the traditional one. The only problem with the Thai Side Kick, might be hitting an elbow coming in. If I hit the elbow with the bottom of the foot, the damage is spread or the heel can absorb it. The ball of the foot can get painful.

  • @Ventus_the_Heathen
    @Ventus_the_Heathen ปีที่แล้ว

    As a TKD based kickboxer this kick really jives with my background of deceptive kicks. I'm definitely gonna be trying to work it in more often in sparring

  • @oldschoolmuzzey
    @oldschoolmuzzey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i’m in my 40s and just learned a new side kick , thnx🙂 now learning how to execute this kick and not pull a muscle is my challenge 🤔

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hehe! Don’t worry bro... I’m 45 and cannot wait for my next fight in front of a big audience...hopefully they’ll actually get my walkout music right next time. Ugh! Extremely annoying and frustrating 🤦‍♂️ 😡

    • @oldschoolmuzzey
      @oldschoolmuzzey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Paul Pelle good luck on your fight, i’m 42 with a karate background and now that i’m older i have been learning a little kickboxing to improve my fitness level and martial arts. I put some karate stuff on my youtube page , if you have any pointers for me i would appreciate it. 👍🏽👊🏽

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oldschoolmuzzey hiya bro. Sorry, I only just noticed you’d replied. I’m not very good with TH-cam and social media! 🤷‍♂️
      I actually saw your video on the 1, 2 thing. Looked pretty sharp and fast to me sir, bravo. 👏
      I would say this though...your breathing. Make sure you’re exhaling as you execute the technique, not after. It’s a really good habit to get in to...even if you don’t ‘feel’ tired. It reminds your body to inhale after, it engages your core for enhanced protection,, and allows you to put more power into your shots. 🙏
      I usually match the breathing/grunting depending on the technique I’m executing. E.g. fast jabs...just a ‘tsh tsh’ kinda thing, bigger hits and/or power roundhouses...I give it more ‘unph’.
      It really helps Mr Muzzey sir. 👍
      Also, if you want to get EXTREMELY fit? Ditch the karate brother, and start getting fully into kickboxing at least...Muay Thai ideally, and incorporate running into your fitness regime.
      I’m fitter now at 45 than I was when I was 25. That’s 100% the truth sir. Oh, and I just recently fought a guy 26 years younger than me (Sunday just gone). But thanks for the good luck message. I might be fighting on another show next month. 💪👌
      PS. I also have a background in karate (reached 3rd kyu in my last style). Yeah, at 42? Ditch it man, trust me...it’s not enough.
      Good luck man 🙏

    • @oldschoolmuzzey
      @oldschoolmuzzey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Paul Pelle thank you sir, I appreciate your feedback 👍🏽🙏🏽

  • @moumous87
    @moumous87 ปีที่แล้ว

    A karateka who’s fallen in love with Muay Thai like me… and both fans of Buakaw… we are basically the same, except all the belts

  • @antondelacruz9362
    @antondelacruz9362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I much preferred the thai variation. After a couple of years of taekwondo, i went to muay thai and found the movements to be easy, relaxed, and natural. I was never able to use the 'foot sword' or 'blade of the foot' in tkd and still cant imagine doing it without twisting my ankle.

  • @tchaliz4925
    @tchaliz4925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the karate side kick the other leg gives you a very firm support, wich used defensively enables slight backwards body movement and a clean stoppage of the advancinc opponent. Other than that I am convinced, the thai one is more versatile and efective.

  • @user-kz7wj5fl9r
    @user-kz7wj5fl9r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you seen side kicks in Sanda/Sanshou? They’re a thing of beauty.

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone else has said that here today. Gonna check that out. 🙏

  • @marcoslacombe9831
    @marcoslacombe9831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In ITF taekwon-do it's fairly common to see people use the ball of the foot instead of the heels for the side kick. We usually value range more than power since it's a point based sparring system.
    What you said about crossing or stepping before kicking, I think this was common some years ago but recently people have been adopting the lift and shift style, where you first lift the kicking leg and then use the supporting leg to slide you in the opponents direction with the kicking leg already chambered and ready to kick. This makes it so that if someone steps forward to try to jam the kick, or try timing your step to hit you when you don't have balance, you're already protected against it.
    In ITF taekwon-do we use a side-kick that's basically like what you described, with the difference being that we are usually a lot more side-faced than the front-faced muay thai/kickboxing stance since we don't have back and leg kicks that would punish being sideways.
    Even though it's a different style, the shifting of the supporing foot does work decently in muay thai. Getting used to sliding forward can get people really off guard when they think they're in a safe distance. On the other hand, I've only tested it in muay thai classes where people are nowhere near your level, so I don't know how well it would translate to high level fighting.

    • @stanclark3992
      @stanclark3992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hI mARCOS. Stance transition is part of the art. Yes.☺

  • @ianstiehl1994
    @ianstiehl1994 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do like to hide my Karate side kick by either pivoting my body with my leg still grounded and throwing it almost as a back kick, instead of chambering -- or by occasionally chambering before dropping my lead leg into a switch kick. The latter has been useful on occasion to make someone second guess whether it's a side kick or a round kick.

  • @sandeepmondal9835
    @sandeepmondal9835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love Muay Thai ❤️

  • @markmessi9020
    @markmessi9020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always used my side kicks as a jab moreso than to do damage so when I learned about this kind of teep, it was a wrap. I only side teep now when I spar, especially if it's a Muay Thai stylist I'm sparring against

  • @Shojushoju
    @Shojushoju 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was teaching some (children) beginners today how to do a side kick (traditional karate / taekwondo style).
    However, a majority of them naturally fired Thai Side Kicks (striking with the ball of the foot and not rotating the hips as fully)!
    Then, of course, I’m trying to encourage them to pivot their supporting foot, rotate their hips more, flex their foot, and strike with the heal.
    But now that I think about it, maybe I should encourage their natural propensity towards side teeps.
    I always thought it’s good to teach beginners the contrast between the vertical front kick and the horizontal side kick.
    But I’ve noticed that many of the kicks from southeast Asian countries have kicks delivered with a more diagonal foot position.
    Perhaps you get the “best of both worlds” that way.
    Oh, I teach JKD btw.

  • @jackontv491
    @jackontv491 ปีที่แล้ว

    The teep is more accurate, faster, more efficient... but a well practiced side kick delivered with the heel can KO someone if you get a good liver shot.
    Check out Wonderboy's sidekick video - he changes the angle of the chamber to make it more hidden and stop it from getting jammed up as easily.
    They're both great kicks but totally different and have their own use cases, it's like comparing a jab to an uppercut.

  • @penjejakangin6236
    @penjejakangin6236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    depend on situation..training both kick much be better.

  • @sportmuaythaiv1045
    @sportmuaythaiv1045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a strong proponent of muaythai over karate, I must admit that both are just as effective when delivered squarely on target. But the way muaythai fighters are nurtured to be a better fighter than karate fighter, is a fact. Just about all top Japanese kick boxers go to Thailand to further their fight technique.

  • @Wombo_combo75874
    @Wombo_combo75874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was ready to disagree when I read the tittle, but you made some very good arguments. All I'm going to say is that you can generate more power with a traditional side kick, and staying side facing from a karate side kick is fine if you are good at bating people into a reverse turning kick, or back leg turning.

  • @guidomista8448
    @guidomista8448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Thailand the thai side kick is still called a teep, it's just called teep Chong. Compared to the normal teep we all know and love teep Kong.

  • @jamesthorne6304
    @jamesthorne6304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I feel the traditional side kick has more power when done correctly

    • @jesseflores9087
      @jesseflores9087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same

    • @nicksalvatore5717
      @nicksalvatore5717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well yes, that’s just due to basic body mechanics
      It doesn’t cover the angles that a Thai side kick does, it’s for different purposes

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nicksalvatore5717 spot-on brother. Body mechanics. I like a ‘striding/skipping’ sidekick (think Bruce Lee style), but good luck landing it, because you can see it from last month 🤷‍♂️

  • @theserpentofmendes
    @theserpentofmendes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thai side kick for me is superior in most situations but in muay thai when you mis a round kick n they charge in thinking youre a sitting duck thats when you murder them with a wonderboy style sidekick

  • @ChocolateMilkCultLeader
    @ChocolateMilkCultLeader 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can imagine the WB response coming

  • @Crunchy166
    @Crunchy166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna see a power test; your thai side vs wonderboy’s side kick.

  • @steventan5604
    @steventan5604 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Gabriel, is the thai side kick more difficult for ur opponent to catch ?

  • @WipesHandsOnPants
    @WipesHandsOnPants ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the Thai side kick as a rhythm disruptor and distance manager, but I'll chime in to say that whether front or side, it's good to also practice landing with the heel/edge because, while you can push someone over with a ball of the foot kick, you can drop them and end the fight with a heel kick, esp. if they are coming forward at the time. Practice throwing it in a little closer than your push kick. You'd be surprised how close you can be and still sneak one in there sometimes. It has its place, it's just not as frequently useful as a push kick. Sometimes what starts as a Thai side kick can end as a hard heel kick, too. You make contact with the toes/ball of the foot on their belly and then if the distance is closing you "drop" the heel onto them with a sudden hard push. Anyway, I'm just saying strike with your heel sometimes too. It's the hardest bone in your body, and you don't have to throw it the traditional, telegraphed way. Sneak it in there.

  • @Comando729
    @Comando729 ปีที่แล้ว

    My background is in uechi-ryu karate but I’ve just taken up Muay Thai cause I’m curious about the style it’s been interesting to adapt to Muay Thai

  • @Docinaplane
    @Docinaplane 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would call it a front kick with the standing leg pivot. I believe Bill Wallace threw the side kick with a knee straight up chamber. He also threw the hook and roundhouse from the same chamber. Since you are kickboxing, exposing the back, even a little is a risk so I get using the Thai version. Thank you!

    • @kristianjensen5877
      @kristianjensen5877 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is definitely possible to start a "karate style sidekick" from a front chamber position.
      It's more than a little tricky to rotate and then extend from the front chamber though, which probably is why a lot of people prefer the "side chamber" even though it makes the kick a lot more telegraphed (and along with the pendulum step thus perpetuates the myth of "side kicks don't work" because they're easy to spot).
      It's pretty cool as an additional "mixup" on the front chamber though, as it kind of "masks" itself as a round kick due getting a similar movement profile (shoulder and hip turn etc.).

  • @justme-pi8vv
    @justme-pi8vv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this guy has no idea i exist; anyways love from Nepal🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵

  • @brauliochavez2231
    @brauliochavez2231 ปีที่แล้ว

    mmm the chamber can actually be sneaky too, but not karate wise... try front chamber and as you pivot release the sidekick... the timin is a bit tricky but the kick is great.

  • @ruiigrit
    @ruiigrit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the teep and the Thai side kick are like a long jab and the side kick a high risk high reward kick, so yeah, overall Thai side kick is more useful

  • @Jon-tsuki-geri
    @Jon-tsuki-geri 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Noice...as I've aged,ahem,but hey I'm 64 so I'm able to perform this version of yoko geri way easier, cheers bro great 👌 video

  • @delanchan699
    @delanchan699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which roundhouse style do you prefer?

  • @dmfaccount1272
    @dmfaccount1272 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like you can chamber regularly and still throw a side kick if you practice it enough (you don't need to lift the leg up to the side)

  • @1stuffforfun
    @1stuffforfun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the karate sight kick in sparring when I fail to hit a high or middle kick and my opponent wants to take advantage of that. It's a lot faster out of this not so optimal position than a frontkick and gives me some extra reach compared to my hands specially as a smaller dude at 5,9 vs bigger guys.
    But I would never throw it if wasn't already in that disadvantages position cause I fucked up another kick 😂😂.

  • @dukey03
    @dukey03 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me the Thai side kick and the teep are so similar. What would the reason be to use a Thai side kick instead of a teep? For Karate sidekick I pretty much only use it if I get turned sideways for whatever reason. So I guess which situations would you use the Thai sidekick over the regular teep and why?

  • @MrLoudthought
    @MrLoudthought 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Samart P. Used/teaches that side kick

  • @relativelybasic
    @relativelybasic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of people call the teep a push kick. But the actual translation from Thai is a stab kick. Stabbing with the ball of the foot has a more piercing force compared to the heel.

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ‘Teep’ and ‘push kick’ are synonymous bro...and it’s pretty impossible, or at least extremely awkward to attempt a teep with the heel only...unless your using the entire flat of the foot for more surface area(and hence more ‘push’, but less power).
      Yep, it is a kinda stabbing motion once the weight is transferred through the hips and into the toes/ball of foot.
      A teep can be thought of as a ‘foot jab’ essentially. 🙏

  • @burt2800
    @burt2800 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you think about Stephen Thompson's sidekick? He throws them quite differently than most places teach and also uses the same chamber for all of his kicks.

    • @dariusjavidan5609
      @dariusjavidan5609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah Wonderboy’s side / back kick is great.

  • @warwolf8741
    @warwolf8741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been copying sanda side kick for a while now. 100% agree, the thai sidekick is easier and more effective than the traditional sidekick.

  • @bartangel4867
    @bartangel4867 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you are right. However I think both kicks have their place and which one you should use depends on a situation. you use tai side kick when you want quick, accurate, long range kick. you use karate side kick when you have an opponent in a position where you are very likely to land a side kick even if you will telegraph it somewhat and this side kick is to deliver lots of damage. (although to do that you must hit with the heel which like you mentioned isn't easy) one thing that I find surprising is that you look at the pendulum type of motion as ineffective. you can get lots of power from pendulum kick. and you don't have to go to the body you can go to the legs instead keeping your opponent guessing. and I see you are in southpaw stance when delivering this kick. Which means that if you are outside of the opponent who is in orthodox stance his legs are significantly less of a threat to you than your legs are to him (of course if he is outside you you are facing the same dilemma)

  • @natebardwell
    @natebardwell 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Today I learned that I might never have done a real teep, and am just landing a bunch of Thai side kicks. Can confirm, high rate of success. Like, almost every one I commit on thinking I'm teeping. I suck so much at Muay Thai that it's working, apparently.

  • @JoeyCentral
    @JoeyCentral 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn that shade at Jessie tho.

  • @hypnoticskull6342
    @hypnoticskull6342 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, Gabriel. I know this video is a year old and this has nothing to do with the video, but I noticed how you display those swords in the background. It's better to display them facing blade up, because in that position, it can dull the blade. Not that you're actually using them though lol

  • @cyberserk5614
    @cyberserk5614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gabriel, I like your videos and I agree you're a high level martial artist... but the edge of your japanese swords should be pointing up.😉

  • @Hand2HandCombat
    @Hand2HandCombat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    side teep - do you think there is much difference in power and speed?

  • @Meteorman312
    @Meteorman312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Idk that sanda side kick be slick

  • @paulpelle3046
    @paulpelle3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:20. Landing with the heel. Every time. Or as much as poss. Jab it into their ribs, sternum, solar plexus , or liver.
    But what do I know? Again, just my opinion (but have a ‘lifted’ or ‘bladed’ sidekick elbow checked in sparring and you’ll probably agree with me...because it fookin HURTS).
    Namaste 🙏

  • @bongkem2723
    @bongkem2723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. Better distance
    2. Hidden
    3. Smaller surface area, more damage
    4. Post kick, easier to recover
    5. Illusion of safety for opponent
    In Karate's defense, at least for Shotokan every kick starts with a straight knee raise to hide which kick will be thrown ;)

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    karate side kick utilizes more hip thus you can generate more power with it, thai side kick might be easier to land but it looks more like a touch than a kick

  • @arandompersonlol1202
    @arandompersonlol1202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stephen Thompson: i jizapprove hundwed percen

    • @burt2800
      @burt2800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stephen "the Eraser" Thompson?

  • @lordvoldemort3209
    @lordvoldemort3209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1) the slide in gives the regular sidekick more Range. Mythbusted
    2) lol Point 2 is also a Point for the Original sidekick. If you get you knee up Nobody can know Whats coming, it can be a Hook, round ore a sidekick. Watch Superfoot Wallace. He was also able to use the sidekick as a jab.

  • @bohlalemokoena8492
    @bohlalemokoena8492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When will you collab with icy Mike from hard2hurt, that would be amazing 😹🔥🔥🔥😹