Great video... I started in machine shop in 1956 and retired in 2001..Started with conventional lathes using high speed steel, then to carbide, then coating of carbide. Then came N.C. machines and then C.N.C. Have seen a lot of changes over the years, and one of the reasons I enjoy your show is some of the tools used in certain area of time..brings back memories when things were done a little different and a lot by Hand.. Great show Keith....If your ever come to Akron, Ohio.. the coffee pot will be ON!
+William Confer Thanks - one of the fun things about this TH-cam channel is that I have had the opportunity to meet so many new friends as I travel around with my job and as they travel through my neck of the woods. Not sure if I will ever make it to Akron or not, but if I do I will try to remember to look you up!
+oxtoolco Thanks Tom - I can't wait either. I already have a couple of machines ready to move in, just need to get the shop dried in and ready for them!
Hi Keith,sometimes the best part of going to swaps and shows is just talking to everyone there.(coming home with extra loot don't hurt either) That's how it is with us car guys at our cruise nights.Ford,GM.Chrysler-doesn't really matter,it's the love of the hobby bringing us together.Glad you're making progress on the shop.
Keith, The shop is looking just great! I loved hearing about Jose! She is a pretty girl. I could tell she is fond of you even before you picked her up. Cats are great company in the shop. I had a black tom cat named Spooky. He would help me out with all of my projects. I remember I was building a picnic table, I was routering the table edge and my wife came out into the garage and gave me heck for the cat being there with all the noise. I then called her attention to the fact that the overhead door was open and he could leave whenever he liked. He sat there on the workbench contently watching me throughout the entire job. Boy I miss that one!
Good job preserving the older machines and giving them a loving home. It's sad to see good iron left for scrap when all it needs is a little love. Those Kennedy's are nigh indestructible, save if left to rust and rot. I love mine. Great shop update. I can't wait to see it closed up and how fast it will progress!
Great looking shop Keith. Plenty of room for projects. The straight edge will be a cool addition to your rebuild equipment. I got interested in scraping years ago when I worked with a guy installing gib bearings on a 150 ton Bliss press. It can be tedious but it doesn't take much more than patience to do well. I am envious of your surface plate. I'm using a stone tile as a makeshift. I built a lot of dies and equipment with only a surface plate, height gage, and a couple of 6" 90 degree angle blocks. The whole shop was excited when we got the first digital height gage in 1976. Now everyone is using CMM's that measure and record the dimensions automatically. Takes some of the fun out of being a machinist. Nothing funnier than slipping a little Prussian blue on the bosses door knob. I was a boss. :-)
+Old Sneelock's Workshop I agree about the old school tools - the modern stuff takes a lot of the learning (and understanding) out of getting something done. Sometimes, that can hurt you more than help you!
Hi Keith. Nice odds & ends video. So cool that you came on to an old machinist that wanted to leave his old school treasures to someone like you that will use and care for them.Today I am spending some time working on my shop with my son. I'll send some photos soon I hope.Your shop is coming along nicely. Not as fast as you would like I'm sure (0: And thanks for the story about Jossie the cat. My son has a farm cat that was born stone deaf. There was a boy cat (her brother) that took care of her until he met his end while trying to pillage a near by fellow's pheasants. The deaf cat has been run over by small car and has not been taken by cyotes, though we are amazed that she is still with us.Thanks for sharing. Don from Oregon
Another great video and update on the shop. I think maybe Josie thinks you are building that shop for her. I think it is a testament to your caracter that you were able to obtain those tools from that family. They knew that you would take care of them and use them. So many folks are just interested in getting something like that and trying to sell it as fast as they can to make as much as they can. Probably like some of those tool dealers at the tool show that you went to that were leaving early on Saturday morning. Thanks again for the time and effort you put into this video.
+Jim Pritz Thanks Jim - The guy who had this stuff I am getting before me has quite a story behind him. I am not sure that I will be able to share all of that on video but it is really cool. The week before he died, he knew his days were numbered and he contacted a few friends to help find a home for many of his treasures.
Kennedy Tool Boxes are made in my home town. If you want to buy seconds (not quite perfect) boxes they usually have a selection for a good discount. You can also get new locks for your boxes there.
That camelback edge would be awesome for setting up my HBM. I am glad that stuff found itself a home where it will be used and enjoyed. Shop is looking great! I have 8 more in of snow in mine today. :-(
Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Rub it in Keith, rub it in! lol Supposed to be close to 60 here this weekend at least,,,but its supposed to rain too. I sure look forward to spring!
Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org My heated floor sure will be nice. I probably will sleep on the floor of the shop with the machines and Baily a few nights when I get it done as a reward for the hard work. :-)
Keith, Thanks for sharing your tool finds. That's so cool that you will be giving a good home to the machines you mentioned. Things are coming along along with the shop. You should be able to put in your conduit and start pulling wire. Are you planning on having outlets on walls and posts or ceiling drops? Conduit anchored to the floor can be problematic depending on your machine layout. It's almost impossible to move a heavy load on a hand truck over conduit! (The voice of experience!) Thanks again for sharing your goodies! Have a good one! Dave
+Swarf Rat Some of the electrical will be in the wall and some will be overhead. Waiting to get the roof on before I get too far started towards pulling any wire, but I am so ready to get started!
A lot of interesting bits. Really like the shop you're building and it looks like Josie adopted you. I'd rather watch you than TV. Learn a lot and love history. Thanks for being there Keith.
great update, keith! the new tools -- especially the scraper straight pattern -- are great; but the shop is coming along nicely, too. i'm wondering if you already got the bottle of champagne to hit against the stern!! that is to say the shop looks like good size ship. on that scraper straight: you can have a tired but not abused bridgeport, rescrape its ways, replace the regular screws for the ball-nut type, and have a machine better than from the factory -- without any backlash.. i clearly see you are a kind man with big heart, and your cat only ptooves that. thank you for the video, -toly
+Toly Dukhovny Thanks Toly - one of these days, I really want to tear down my Wells Index mill and do some fine tuning on it. It is not in bad shape by any means but it has some room for improvement.
Hi Josie!!!..Oh, and you too Keith, LOL! I love my cats, they're all great mousers, mole and vole hunters, and being on a farm that's wonderful. My dog "Molly" is a Dachshund and she is in charge of killing the rats and bigger moles that the cats have trouble finishing off. They spend the nice days on the farm out in the yard working as a team, and it's the funniest thing...who says cats and dogs always fight? Congrats on the tool find, they couldn't find a better home! May their previous owner Rest in Peace, knowing that his tools will continue to make thousands of us happy with you running them. Aloha...Chuck
Mark Fryer I'd need to build a blind and hide from my animals in order to get any footage of them doing anything besides getting underfoot. I would probably get a million views if I could get that and make a "Nova" narrator's voice over for it, LOL!
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Well I'm in the same position as yourself Keith. I know enough about scraping to know I don't know enough for machine tool rebuilding. I'm going to need to take a course of some kind as well.
Keith I got a ceramic sleeve that we used at the plant I worked at it was for thermal couple to fit in on our electric furnace, it is about 12" long 3/8 or so id open on one end, if you can use it I will send it to you, all I been using it for is sharping pocket knife.
+Joe Tiller That should be perfect for my thermocouple! Yes, I would love to have it! Shoot me an email and I will send you my address. My email address is shown near the beginning of each video when my name pops up on screen.
+Dennis Skerb Nope, gotta fill it up with machines and tools pretty quick - my wife has already said something about having some parties out there. I ain't going to let that happen....
I bet electrolysis would clean up the plate and straight edge very nice. You might also try lapping the two iron plates against each other. Regarding lead hammers, when we were cleaning up my grandfather's house, my dad scrapped about 150lbs of lead. I'm still kinda mad. Shop is looking good. Can't Wait to see it finished.
+justfakeit888 I am going to try some Evaporust on them before I try electrolysis - I have been getting some pretty good results with that stuff here lately.
I have one of those oval/wood handle screwdrivers. Has the Irwin branding on it but the tip is angled and rounded over... like much of my dad's flathead screwdrivers.
Hello Keith, Great to see the update from the shop and it is getting more and more looking like a real shop. Besides, nice story about Josie the cat and buy a house with the cat included haha. About the tools, I am curious about how you maintain the screwdrivers and keep them sharp or you know what I mean. I try'd some older screwdrivers with bad heads but I don't know what the good way is to sharpen them. Again a very nice Odds&Ends and looking forward to the next one ! Many greetings from Roel ( out of a could Netherlands with about -3 degrees Celcius ).
Great video Keith. Shop is looking fantastic! Wish I had Josie here, soo many mice and lizards running around my shop. My dog tries his best to catch him but at 80 lbs he just isn't very fast.
Keith, I picked up a Machinist's Toolbox just like yours (@ 10:00) at a flea market for $10.00 , but mine is in much, much better condition & mine came with BOTH Keys. A lot of good stuff still out there, but you've got to keep your eyes open and know what you're looking at.
+001DesertRat Very good for you! I have picked up a few good deals like that from time to time. Those Kennedy boxes will last forever if taken care of!
On that Type K thermocouple, the yellow lead is the positive, and the red lead is the negative. If you hook them up backwards then your reading will be off by quite a bit.
Great new tool acquisitions, and great to hear about the mystery acquisitions. Can't wait to hear more! Also, congrats on the shop! Soon you'll be dried in and getting moved in.
nice scraping tools I'm about halfway through Connolly's machine tool rebuilding. if you don't have it you need it .the most though text I've read on rebuilding worth every pinny
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Richard king sells them on ebay for $100 on ebay I watched every one that came up on ebay for a few years best price I saw for a used one was $80 so I figured I'd just buy a new one for $100.
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org You are right, but imagine how nice it would look if it looked a bit like the safe you restored! Black with gold pinstripes! I hope you change your mind ;)
Josie the Cat...good deal...I've had plenty of tool steel items and stuff completely ruined by mice/rats and squirrels chewing...or urinating on the metal....several brand-new 50 foot polyurethane coil air hoses....$75-100 each....
Ya know Keith, When I saw your new shop in this video, Noah's Ark came to mind. The only other question that needs an answer is.....Will you be bringing pairs of all the machines??? All joking aside, that is a magnificent shop you are building. I am anxious to see the final preview before the machines are in. It will be a very happy day for you, to finally have the shop of your dreams finished and moved into. Thank you for sharing the journey with us.
Thanks for taking the time to put the video update together Keith . grate to know about new shop and the cat keeping it safe. where do u get your elbo grease store or home made lol
Had the same tool box Brand new as a Graduation Present in 1977 from High school and Votech (Machine Shop ) out grew it a few year later . and got the bigger boxes you know how it goes more tools and more tools
+1995dresser Yep, I understand. This one is my third Kennedy top box - the other two being the larger version. I actually sold another one a few years ago and wish I had kept it too....
Looking back I wish I would have kept it. because my it was a gift from my parents who have both Passed on . always wanted nice Gerhner wood boxes but could never afford them . .
+OLD WIPPER-SNAPPER I tried that once with Evaporust on a machine table. The problem was that the product dried out in some areas actually making the cleanup harder. I will probably build some kind of tank that I can turn it upside down into and let it soak that way.
The shop is looking great. Funny how it looks so big on the outside but when you get tools & equipment inside it will suddenly seem so small. My cat, Maddi, spends her days in my woodworking shop with me. But she is strictly an indoor cat, never been outside in her entire life.
+Luckystrike Josie is really funny about even coming in the shop. She does not like to be trapped inside - as long as the door is open, she will come in but if you shut the door behind her (her escape route), she will let you know that she does not like it. I am considering putting some kind of cat door into the shop for her, but I don't know if she will use it or not.
Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Thanks for your reply to my comment. How funny. Maddi will go away from the door if I leave it open as I often do in nice weather. I never worry about her going out if I leave her and go to the living quarters in the back of the shop. She does like to sit in the display windows facing the street and watch the traffic but if a customer comes in she disappears fast.
You don't really need to add a graphite sleeve to the probe if you're going to use it in nonferrous metals. The stainless tip will last forever in aluminum, brass and bronze and if you do put a sleeve over the tip your temperature readings will be inaccurate due to the insulating properties of the graphite. With the proper pouring temperature for brass and bronze being 1950 degrees F to 2100 degrees F I hope the analog dial goes up to 2200 degrees F or better. What is its' range?
+sandrammer The thermocouple is rated to go up to 2350 F - it is one that was purchased from Mifco some time back. If the analog meter does not go that high, my digital thermometer will get the job done!
Being that my Dad was an in-flight mechanic on B-29's and B-36's during the Korean War, I've got a healthy interest in military aviation. And I'm not just the standard, sleek fighter jet lover, I've got a soft spot for the big girls too. I'm not sure which is my favorite, any of you guys have a vote in that dept.?
Thanks for the video Keith. Sounds to me that your shop builders are giving you the run around. Never heard of not being able to sheet a roof to prevent paint or stain splatter. And the wall sheeting, having to wait for windows. Sheeting first, windows second, unless that's the way it's done in the south.
+Duncan “DunMac” Mac They had to have the windows in first so that they could properly size the holes in the sheet goods. As for the roof, they are going to spray on a stain and they dont want it dripping down the roof since there is going to be siding up on the clearstory.
I worked my way through school spray painting buildings and it is very easy to have a puff of wind take a spray mist of paint onto a metal roof . May as well be safe and wait
+Lewie McNeely I am getting more and more excited about the shop every day. Also getting more and more impatient every day! I am so ready to start moving in....
Suggestion? For those surface pieces, how about some Brasso or Bar Keeper's Friend? Neither of them are abrasive enough to introduce a low spot, but might get the measuring surfaces clean. Was there an extra charge for the cat?
+Hotrodelectric I am going to try some Evaporust first and see if that will do the trick. No charge for the cat - she even came with what was left of a bag of food!
Another thought. Are you going to have David Richards from NY put in a steam powered line shaft power system to run your toys? I discovered he lives very close to me and I must see if I can get a tour of his shop.
+Jack Moulton Dave visited the museum a few months ago and hung out with us as we worked on our steam engine to power the line shaft in the woodworking shop. As tempted as I am to do something like that, my wife has made me promise that I will not have any steam engines and boilers at the house.....
Hi Keith the shop is really looking nice however I can see one thing wrong with it the location it's all wrong. I think it would look better setting south of Kansas City a ways LOL
I love the cat story. My cat is like a dog. When I'm working he has to be nearby to keep an eye on what's going on. Also, that hammer handle sure is handsome. Is the wood ash? You have kind and generous friends. Smart too.
+anon That would be fun. Once I have a shop built, I might see about hosting a weekend scraping class at my place if I can get an instructor to come in. We will see....
great videos, we are currently going through the planning process of building a barn style shop similar to yours. I was just wondering what your cost for the building is minus the interior finish work. if you could please brake it down It would be very much appreciated
I heard at one point that cast iron surface plates were better than granite, but during WWII, materials shortages made the cost go way up and granite became the standard? Is that right? Did this push the manufacturing of granite plates to be better so that they are better than cast iron now?
+CKOD I have to admit that I am not much of an expert on surface plates so I am not sure about your question. I would think that granite would be more stable than cast iron, but that might not be right. Something to dig into....
That's going to be interesting ... staining the shop I mean ... It took the cat that lets us live with her about a year before she would purr let alone allow me to touch her. Josie seems to like you though.
Oops, I done it again. Made a comment and forgot to hit "POST". Now I've forgot what I wrote...durnit! Anyhow great video on all and especially the shop. Greg (Oh, the cat is impressive, too!)
Hi Kieth, being in GA I'm guessing you have a lot of humidity. I'm in SE TX and having fits trying to keep rust at bay. How do yo keep your tools from rusting away? Thanks, Bruce
+Bruce E I think that the first key is having an insulated shop. Keeping the machinery at somewhat of a stable temperature keeps the machines from "sweating" like you can get when you have rapid temperature changes. I also keep those little moisture packages that come inside of all kinds of consumer goods - they are in a little pouch - and I throw them in the drawers of my toolbox - that also helps. And finally, I try to keep a coat of light oil on things most of the time. Even with all of that, it can be challenging.
Thanks for another great video. I am curious about the price of the Kennedy but don't want to pry. I have a Kennedy like that, but in much better shape, except for the lock, that was my Dad's. Just curious, and don't feel pressured to give a price if you don't feel comfortable doing so.
+M E Boyd He had a price tag on that box for $30, but as I said, we ended up trading some items and at the end, he paid me! $30 is cheap in my opinion, even for a box in that condition.
Isn't the cast iron surface plate used in making a granite surface plate straight? Like in Tom Lipton's recent video on the topic. Or are those lighter versions? edit: Josie rocks :D
+aserta In Tom's video, he was using a cast iron plate as a lapping tool, but they were often used as a surface plate themselves. I am not sure if the lapping plate he was using is the same as the surface plate I have, but I am sure that one could use a plate like mine to get that job done.
+aserta We had to have the surface plates in the tool rooms and quality lab certified and had a contract with a company. They used diamond dust and an iron plate but it was a special with two vertical handles. The tech called it a shoe. He would hammer the diamond into the surface of the shoe with a mallet. He'd flip the shoe over and then dress the top of the stone. North to South. Then East to West. Usually only took a couple passes. Of course the tool makers and quality guys would toss you out on your ear if you put your bare hand on the surface plate. They kept them like operating tables. :-)
+Steven Hardy Yeah, I am glad to see it going on as well. I hope they are working on it this week - I am on the road again so I don't know if they have come out or not..... No RR tracks in this shop....
+outsidescrewball Thank you sir - I have been enjoying watching you work on that 10EE! I will have to shoot you some pictures of its BIG brother that I am about to get for my shop.....
+joshua barba I started to shoot some video of me working on the windows but to be honest with you, I was so far behind getting it done that I just did not need to take the time try and shoot video. Shooting video really slows me down and I was needing to just get that job done in a hurry....
Keith, get some Metal Rescue and soak that cast iron straight edge in it. It won't hurt the metal at all and you don't have to use elbow grease on it & worry about damaging the surface. I discovered this stuff when doing my first motorcycle restoration and have become the biggest fan of it. Most Home Depots carry it but you can go to www.metalrescue.com and search for a location to buy it in your area. It costs about $25 per gallon and you may need 2 gallons for that piece but you can filter the stuff and re-use it over & over.
+Ron Icard I will have to try that sometime. I have a bunch of Evaporust that I use all the time and I plan to soak it in that. I think it is a pretty similar product.
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Evaporust will work fine on the camelback and the surface plate, but do NOT leave part of it above the surface of the liquid. It will etch a nasty notch in the work at the air/liquid interface. Custom soaking troughs can be made from scrap lumber and Visqueen (polyester plastic sheeting) to fit awkward sized items. Also, the angle on the camelback should be less than anything you want to mark with it. A typical angle is around 40 degrees, so you can mark common 45 and 55 degree dovetails. The straightedge needs to be tilted for marking. It is better if the work can be tilted so the camelback can be more evenly balanced over the work for getting a good print on the surface of the work.
Great video... I started in machine shop in 1956 and retired in 2001..Started with conventional lathes using high speed steel, then to carbide, then coating of carbide. Then came N.C. machines and then C.N.C. Have seen a lot of changes over the years, and one of the reasons I enjoy your show is some of the tools used in certain area of time..brings back memories when things were done a little different and a lot by Hand.. Great show Keith....If your ever come to Akron, Ohio.. the coffee pot will be ON!
+William Confer Thanks - one of the fun things about this TH-cam channel is that I have had the opportunity to meet so many new friends as I travel around with my job and as they travel through my neck of the woods. Not sure if I will ever make it to Akron or not, but if I do I will try to remember to look you up!
Man that shop is sweet. Can't wait till you start filling it up with ferrous mechanicos.
All the best,
Tom
+oxtoolco Thanks Tom - I can't wait either. I already have a couple of machines ready to move in, just need to get the shop dried in and ready for them!
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org its always some hang up on new construction, glad its just windows. great looking building.
i guess it is kind of off topic but does anyone know a good website to stream new tv shows online?
@Ryland Larry meh try flixportal. Just google for it :D -reuben
@Reuben Armani Thank you, I went there and it seems to work :D I really appreciate it !
Hi Keith,sometimes the best part of going to swaps and shows is just talking to everyone there.(coming home with extra loot don't hurt either) That's how it is with us car guys at our cruise nights.Ford,GM.Chrysler-doesn't really matter,it's the love of the hobby bringing us together.Glad you're making progress on the shop.
+Mr Frog I could not agree more!
Great looking shop Keith! The style looks vintage but will be very useful at the same time, thanks for sharing!
+Roger Parry Thanks Roger!
Keith,
The shop is looking just great! I loved hearing about Jose! She is a pretty girl. I could tell she is fond of you even before you picked her up. Cats are great company in the shop. I had a black tom cat named Spooky. He would help me out with all of my projects. I remember I was building a picnic table, I was routering the table edge and my wife came out into the garage and gave me heck for the cat being there with all the noise. I then called her attention to the fact that the overhead door was open and he could leave whenever he liked. He sat there on the workbench contently watching me throughout the entire job. Boy I miss that one!
+Junk Mikes World I think we all have our pets that we miss. My favorite was a yellow lab named Lou Lou. Boy, I miss her as well....
Good job preserving the older machines and giving them a loving home. It's sad to see good iron left for scrap when all it needs is a little love.
Those Kennedy's are nigh indestructible, save if left to rust and rot. I love mine.
Great shop update. I can't wait to see it closed up and how fast it will progress!
+mausball I just love to save old tools and bring them back to life!
Keith,
Good on you, won't be long you'll be weathered in and another big step will be behind you.
I'm waiting for that video,
Rollie
+Rollie Kelly That is the plan. I am ready to be dried in so I can start pulling some wire!
Keith, glad to hear about the new tools/machines, they'll have a good home. The shop is looking really nice!
Thanks for the video.
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+arkansas13 Thank YOU!
The new shop looks better and better each time we see it. Thanks for sharing the dream.
+Paul Tunnicliffe And thank YOU for watching!
Excellent video Keith. Love the story about Josey and your shop is looking very nice!
+Glendale Watkins THanks!
Great looking shop Keith. Plenty of room for projects. The straight edge will be a cool addition to your rebuild equipment. I got interested in scraping years ago when I worked with a guy installing gib bearings on a 150 ton Bliss press. It can be tedious but it doesn't take much more than patience to do well. I am envious of your surface plate. I'm using a stone tile as a makeshift. I built a lot of dies and equipment with only a surface plate, height gage, and a couple of 6" 90 degree angle blocks.
The whole shop was excited when we got the first digital height gage in 1976. Now everyone is using CMM's that measure and record the dimensions automatically. Takes some of the fun out of being a machinist. Nothing funnier than slipping a little Prussian blue on the bosses door knob. I was a boss. :-)
+Old Sneelock's Workshop I agree about the old school tools - the modern stuff takes a lot of the learning (and understanding) out of getting something done. Sometimes, that can hurt you more than help you!
Hi Keith. Nice odds & ends video. So cool that you came on to an old machinist that wanted to leave his old school treasures to someone like you that will use and care for them.Today I am spending some time working on my shop with my son. I'll send some photos soon I hope.Your shop is coming along nicely. Not as fast as you would like I'm sure (0: And thanks for the story about Jossie the cat. My son has a farm cat that was born stone deaf. There was a boy cat (her brother) that took care of her until he met his end while trying to pillage a near by fellow's pheasants. The deaf cat has been run over by small car and has not been taken by cyotes, though we are amazed that she is still with us.Thanks for sharing. Don from Oregon
+Don Dotson Thanks Don - would love to see some pictures of your shop!
Another great video and update on the shop. I think maybe Josie thinks you are building that shop for her. I think it is a testament to your caracter that you were able to obtain those tools from that family. They knew that you would take care of them and use them. So many folks are just interested in getting something like that and trying to sell it as fast as they can to make as much as they can. Probably like some of those tool dealers at the tool show that you went to that were leaving early on Saturday morning. Thanks again for the time and effort you put into this video.
+Jim Pritz Thanks Jim - The guy who had this stuff I am getting before me has quite a story behind him. I am not sure that I will be able to share all of that on video but it is really cool. The week before he died, he knew his days were numbered and he contacted a few friends to help find a home for many of his treasures.
Keith, You couldn't have framed that shot of the new shop more perfectly. The place looks amazing, good luck on the remainder of the build.
+Abc Defg Thanks!
Kennedy Tool Boxes are made in my home town. If you want to buy seconds (not quite perfect) boxes they usually have a selection for a good discount. You can also get new locks for your boxes there.
That camelback edge would be awesome for setting up my HBM. I am glad that stuff found itself a home where it will be used and enjoyed. Shop is looking great! I have 8 more in of snow in mine today. :-(
+bcbloc02 Yeah, I was really happy to find the camelback! Hate to hear about the snow - if it makes you feel better, we hit 70 degrees here today!
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Rub it in Keith, rub it in! lol Supposed to be close to 60 here this weekend at least,,,but its supposed to rain too. I sure look forward to spring!
+bcbloc02 Ah spring. I can't wait either. Every time I get used to it being nice outside we have another cold snap. I hate the cold....
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My heated floor sure will be nice. I probably will sleep on the floor of the shop with the machines and Baily a few nights when I get it done as a reward for the hard work. :-)
Keith,
Thanks for sharing your tool finds. That's so cool that you will be giving a good home to the machines you mentioned. Things are coming along along with the shop. You should be able to put in your conduit and start pulling wire. Are you planning on having outlets on walls and posts or ceiling drops? Conduit anchored to the floor can be problematic depending on your machine layout. It's almost impossible to move a heavy load on a hand truck over conduit! (The voice of experience!) Thanks again for sharing your goodies!
Have a good one!
Dave
+Swarf Rat Some of the electrical will be in the wall and some will be overhead. Waiting to get the roof on before I get too far started towards pulling any wire, but I am so ready to get started!
A lot of interesting bits. Really like the shop you're building and it looks like Josie adopted you. I'd rather watch you than TV. Learn a lot and love history. Thanks for being there Keith.
+Dana Nelson Thanks for taking the time to watch. I am having a blast doing this as well!
Almost looks like you have the ideal job. :)
shop looks to be ready just in time for spring......be great moving time....
great update, keith!
the new tools -- especially the scraper straight pattern -- are great; but the shop is coming along nicely, too. i'm wondering if you already got the bottle of champagne to hit against the stern!! that is to say the shop looks like good size ship.
on that scraper straight: you can have a tired but not abused bridgeport, rescrape its ways, replace the regular screws for the ball-nut type, and have a machine better than from the factory -- without any backlash..
i clearly see you are a kind man with big heart, and your cat only ptooves that.
thank you for the video,
-toly
+Toly Dukhovny Thanks Toly - one of these days, I really want to tear down my Wells Index mill and do some fine tuning on it. It is not in bad shape by any means but it has some room for improvement.
Your new shop is getting there, slowly but surely. Nice new/ old tooling Keith. Hope you git the shop up and running soon. Later
+NSTRAPPERHUNTER I am hoping for sooner rather than later. Boy, it seems to be moving slow....
very nice episode, sweet stories all around, thanks for sharing...
Keep on trucking ! (from France)
+MakeFix Thanks!
Ah ha.. the Georgia swamp panther has a name.
Not only have you managed to tame her, but she also keeps all the riff raff out. :)
+Rickshaw Jack Yep, she is a good watch cat. Most visitors would be very afraid if they saw a Georgia Swamp Panther stalking them....
Great selection of stuff and the shop is looking very impressive... magnificent.
+ChrisB257 Thank you!
what a great looking shop Keith , And points for the cat to ..LOL.. Great tools as well man !!
+ShawnMrFixitlee THanks!
gorgeous building you are getting there!
+Flip de boer Thanks - I am just ready to get it finished!
The shop is turning out fantastic. As you were talking about Josey, I expected to see a 2-4-2 come chugging out of the shop. Nice building.
+Jack Moulton I wish I had a railroad that I could run one on. And the money to have all of that!!!
Hi Josie!!!..Oh, and you too Keith, LOL! I love my cats, they're all great mousers, mole and vole hunters, and being on a farm that's wonderful. My dog "Molly" is a Dachshund and she is in charge of killing the rats and bigger moles that the cats have trouble finishing off. They spend the nice days on the farm out in the yard working as a team, and it's the funniest thing...who says cats and dogs always fight?
Congrats on the tool find, they couldn't find a better home! May their previous owner Rest in Peace, knowing that his tools will continue to make thousands of us happy with you running them.
Aloha...Chuck
+Knolltop Farms Thanks Chuck!
+Knolltop Farms That would make for an interesting video showing Molly and the cats working as a team.
Mark Fryer I'd need to build a blind and hide from my animals in order to get any footage of them doing anything besides getting underfoot. I would probably get a million views if I could get that and make a "Nova" narrator's voice over for it, LOL!
That's going to be an extremely nice shop and great location for it Keith. And I'm more than a bit envious of that straight and dovetail camelback.
+Turning Point I got lucky on the camelback for sure. I have been keeping an eye out for one of those for some time now!
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Well I'm in the same position as yourself Keith. I know enough about scraping to know I don't know enough for machine tool rebuilding. I'm going to need to take a course of some kind as well.
Keith I got a ceramic sleeve that we used at the plant I worked at it was for thermal couple to fit in on our electric furnace, it is about 12" long 3/8 or so id open on one end, if you can use it I will send it to you, all I been using it for is sharping pocket knife.
+Joe Tiller That should be perfect for my thermocouple! Yes, I would love to have it! Shoot me an email and I will send you my address. My email address is shown near the beginning of each video when my name pops up on screen.
Building is coming along nicely. Many of us have been upstaged by a cat!
+Keith Ward We are making progress, however slow it might be. Josie just loves to wander into my shots....
Great looking shop. Exciting.
Jim
+phooesnax Exciting indeed! I am just getting rather impatient wanting to get it finished.....
Amazing shop Keith. The wait will be worth it
+Richard Ashman I agree, but I am not wanting to wait any more......
That garage would make a great bar
+Dennis Skerb Nope, gotta fill it up with machines and tools pretty quick - my wife has already said something about having some parties out there. I ain't going to let that happen....
That is one mighty impressive shop Keith... I bet you're itching to get some machines and tools in there.
+Peter Baynes Itching is right! I am getting very impatient!
Great score on the camelback straight edge. I have been looking for one for quite sometime. I'm very jealous LOL.
+Metal Tips and Tricks (Dale Derry) Yeah, I have been looking for one for a while as well. Now I need to go take a scraping class....
I bet electrolysis would clean up the plate and straight edge very nice. You might also try lapping the two iron plates against each other.
Regarding lead hammers, when we were cleaning up my grandfather's house, my dad scrapped about 150lbs of lead. I'm still kinda mad.
Shop is looking good. Can't Wait to see it finished.
+justfakeit888 I am going to try some Evaporust on them before I try electrolysis - I have been getting some pretty good results with that stuff here lately.
I have one of those oval/wood handle screwdrivers. Has the Irwin branding on it but the tip is angled and rounded over... like much of my dad's flathead screwdrivers.
+Adam R Screwdrivers are for turning screws. Prybars are for prying......
Hello Keith,
Great to see the update from the shop and it is getting more and more looking like a real shop. Besides, nice story about Josie the cat and buy a house with the cat included haha.
About the tools, I am curious about how you maintain the screwdrivers and keep them sharp or you know what I mean. I try'd some older screwdrivers with bad heads but I don't know what the good way is to sharpen them.
Again a very nice Odds&Ends and looking forward to the next one !
Many greetings from Roel ( out of a could Netherlands with about -3 degrees Celcius ).
+RoelTyros I have cleaned up a few screwdrivers on a grinder but I really try and find ones that are not too badly worn to begin with.
The shop is looking great Keith.
+mcpheonixx Thanks!
lots of good scores and building really shaping up.
+tlcbear2 Thanks!
The shop is looking great!
+Nate Cougill Thanks!
I am sure Josey would appreciate a "catway" to be able to explore the shed and keep an eye on everything from on high!
+Grandpa Cocky She will likely have the run of the place!
Shop is looking great!
+Rj Bin1971 Thanks!
Great video Keith. Shop is looking fantastic! Wish I had Josie here, soo many mice and lizards running around my shop. My dog tries his best to catch him but at 80 lbs he just isn't very fast.
+jjs4x I have an 80 lb dog as well. He is terrified of Josie - won't go near her....
Keith, I picked up a Machinist's Toolbox just like yours (@ 10:00) at a flea market for $10.00 , but mine is in much, much better condition & mine came with BOTH Keys. A lot of good stuff still out there, but you've got to keep your eyes open and know what you're looking at.
+001DesertRat Very good for you! I have picked up a few good deals like that from time to time. Those Kennedy boxes will last forever if taken care of!
On that Type K thermocouple, the yellow lead is the positive, and the red lead is the negative. If you hook them up backwards then your reading will be off by quite a bit.
+Nathan Scantling Thanks - I still have to get that hooked up...
Keith if you get a solvent called hopped no 9from wallmart and 0000steel wool it works really good at getting the surface rust off
hoppes
Great new tool acquisitions, and great to hear about the mystery acquisitions. Can't wait to hear more!
Also, congrats on the shop! Soon you'll be dried in and getting moved in.
+Jeff Heath More to come - I can't wait to show you guys what all I got coming!
Thank you for sharing.
+ELSDP-45 Thank you for watching!
Awesome shop very cool. Hope it is big enough for all your new toys
+brosselot1 Thanks, I do too!
nice scraping tools I'm about halfway through Connolly's machine tool rebuilding. if you don't have it you need it .the most though text I've read on rebuilding worth every pinny
+Chris Anderson I don't own a copy of that book but I have seen it a few times. It is on my list...
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Richard king sells them on ebay for $100 on ebay I watched every one that came up on ebay for a few years best price I saw for a used one was $80 so I figured I'd just buy a new one for $100.
I would LOVE to see a makeover video of that wonderful toolbox mr Rucker!
+dixonqwerty It is probably just going to get used as it is. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org You are right, but imagine how nice it would look if it looked a bit like the safe you restored! Black with gold pinstripes! I hope you change your mind ;)
Josie the Cat...good deal...I've had plenty of tool steel items and stuff completely ruined by mice/rats and squirrels chewing...or urinating on the metal....several brand-new 50 foot polyurethane coil air hoses....$75-100 each....
247C...very popular for mill-wrights/mechanics working in canneries....for measuring....uh...well...cans.....
Keith, Give Josie a pat from me! She's the ideal cat for your new shop.
+Mike Clayton I think so too!
Ya know Keith, When I saw your new shop in this video, Noah's Ark came to mind. The only other question that needs an answer is.....Will you be bringing pairs of all the machines??? All joking aside, that is a magnificent shop you are building. I am anxious to see the final preview before the machines are in. It will be a very happy day for you, to finally have the shop of your dreams finished and moved into. Thank you for sharing the journey with us.
+P Wise You are not the first to make the Noah's Ark comparison. And I have already used that excuse to start finding two of everything!
Love those shop Updates!
Thanks for taking the time to put the video update together Keith .
grate to know about new shop and the cat keeping it safe.
where do u get your elbo grease store or home made lol
+Craig Nicholson I have a secrete recipe for elbow grease, passed down from my grandfather. Sorry, it is a family secrete...
lol it works really good your stuff Keith
Super video update Keith!!
+Luke Albanese Thanks Luke!
keith shop looking good great video,
+Robert Kutz Thank you!
i see your cat is very interested too !!!!!
the new shop is looking great!
+Jeff Moss Thanks Jeff!
Had the same tool box Brand new as a Graduation Present in 1977 from High school and Votech (Machine Shop ) out grew it a few year later . and got the bigger boxes you know how it goes more tools and more tools
+1995dresser Yep, I understand. This one is my third Kennedy top box - the other two being the larger version. I actually sold another one a few years ago and wish I had kept it too....
Looking back I wish I would have kept it. because my it was a gift from my parents who have both Passed on . always wanted nice Gerhner wood boxes but could never afford them . .
Sorry meant to say Gerstner wood tool boxes
GREAT VIDEO !!
SURFACE PLATE - WOULD A PAPER TOWEL LAYING ON IT SOAKED
WITH DE-RUSTER OF SOME TYPE WORK ?
+OLD WIPPER-SNAPPER I tried that once with Evaporust on a machine table. The problem was that the product dried out in some areas actually making the cleanup harder. I will probably build some kind of tank that I can turn it upside down into and let it soak that way.
a shop that nice needs a name!!!
The shop is looking great. Funny how it looks so big on the outside but when you get tools & equipment inside it will suddenly seem so small.
My cat, Maddi, spends her days in my woodworking shop with me. But she is strictly an indoor cat, never been outside in her entire life.
+Luckystrike Josie is really funny about even coming in the shop. She does not like to be trapped inside - as long as the door is open, she will come in but if you shut the door behind her (her escape route), she will let you know that she does not like it. I am considering putting some kind of cat door into the shop for her, but I don't know if she will use it or not.
Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org
Thanks for your reply to my comment.
How funny. Maddi will go away from the door if I leave it open as I often do in nice weather.
I never worry about her going out if I leave her and go to the living quarters in the back of the shop.
She does like to sit in the display windows facing the street and watch the traffic but if a customer comes in she disappears fast.
You don't really need to add a graphite sleeve to the probe if you're going to use it in nonferrous metals. The stainless tip will last forever in aluminum, brass and bronze and if you do put a sleeve over the tip your temperature readings will be inaccurate due to the insulating properties of the graphite. With the proper pouring temperature for brass and bronze being 1950 degrees F to 2100 degrees F I hope the analog dial goes up to 2200 degrees F or better. What is its' range?
+sandrammer The thermocouple is rated to go up to 2350 F - it is one that was purchased from Mifco some time back. If the analog meter does not go that high, my digital thermometer will get the job done!
cool, now all you need to do is to marry the three components so that it can be carried easily and used safely.
We have 2 cats. One of them is a serious hunter like her and the other is so so hunter.
the fitting of the lead hammer handle to the mold would be a nice, quick, easy and fun FIRST turning in a new (restored) lathe. hint, hint
A good idea - and something I need to finish up!
Maybe the Kennedy fell off the back of a C-17? :) Thanks for sharing Keith!
+Chris Winslow LOL, that's what I thought, and only a Kennedy would survive ;)
+Chris Winslow It might have! I suspect that this box spent at least part of its life in an airplane factory....
Being that my Dad was an in-flight mechanic on B-29's and B-36's during the Korean War, I've got a healthy interest in military aviation. And I'm not just the standard, sleek fighter jet lover, I've got a soft spot for the big girls too.
I'm not sure which is my favorite, any of you guys have a vote in that dept.?
my father still has his Kennedy tool box exactley like yours and his is in real good shape still uses must be 50 years old
+dexter2433 A good Kennedy will last a lifetime if well taken care of!
looking great Keith, maybe we can meet up at the musem next time i come down
+Scott Tyndall That would be great. Just let me know ahead of time when you will be coming through so that we can arrange to meet.
Lizard eatin cat.. thats a new one. lol nice Keith!
+gbowne1 She is quite the hunter...
Thanks for the video Keith. Sounds to me that your shop builders are giving you the run around. Never heard of not being able to sheet a roof to prevent paint or stain splatter. And the wall sheeting, having to wait for windows. Sheeting first, windows second, unless that's the way it's done in the south.
+Duncan “DunMac” Mac They had to have the windows in first so that they could properly size the holes in the sheet goods. As for the roof, they are going to spray on a stain and they dont want it dripping down the roof since there is going to be siding up on the clearstory.
I worked my way through school spray painting buildings and it is very easy to have a puff of wind take a spray mist of paint onto a metal roof . May as well be safe and wait
Well I can certainly see your point.
Try soaking your rusty steel in a solution of molasses & water for two weeks. Works well, a lot less work than sanding & not abrasive.
Nice gadgets but the shop is looking HOUSEY! Good going!
+Lewie McNeely I am getting more and more excited about the shop every day. Also getting more and more impatient every day! I am so ready to start moving in....
I haven't forgotten the flat belt pulleys either.
SHOP LOOKS GREAT. YOU WILL GET LOST IN THERE. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO.
+ROBERT HORNER Oh, that would be just terrible if I got lost in that new shop. I don't know what I would do..... ;-)
Suggestion? For those surface pieces, how about some Brasso or Bar Keeper's Friend? Neither of them are abrasive enough to introduce a low spot, but might get the measuring surfaces clean.
Was there an extra charge for the cat?
+Hotrodelectric I am going to try some Evaporust first and see if that will do the trick. No charge for the cat - she even came with what was left of a bag of food!
No extra charge for the cat plus some food? Dang dude, you scored! :)
Another thought. Are you going to have David Richards from NY put in a steam powered line shaft power system to run your toys? I discovered he lives very close to me and I must see if I can get a tour of his shop.
+Jack Moulton Dave visited the museum a few months ago and hung out with us as we worked on our steam engine to power the line shaft in the woodworking shop. As tempted as I am to do something like that, my wife has made me promise that I will not have any steam engines and boilers at the house.....
Hi Keith the shop is really looking nice however I can see one thing wrong with it the location it's all wrong. I think it would look better setting south of Kansas City a ways LOL
+DS75921 Well, this one is going to stay put, but I can share some plans with you if you like!
Thanks but I have one on paper now I hope in the future to make it grow out of the dirt
I love the cat story. My cat is like a dog. When I'm working he has to be nearby to keep an eye on what's going on. Also, that hammer handle sure is handsome. Is the wood ash? You have kind and generous friends. Smart too.
+Kevin Hornbuckle I am pretty sure that it is ash - that is what it looks like to me anyway...
Would love if you did a series on learning scraping so we get to learn with you.
+anon That would be fun. Once I have a shop built, I might see about hosting a weekend scraping class at my place if I can get an instructor to come in. We will see....
great videos, we are currently going through the planning process of building a barn style shop similar to yours. I was just wondering what your cost for the building is minus the interior finish work. if you could please brake it down It would be very much appreciated
+Rebecca Yates Shoot me an email and I will give you some details.
I heard at one point that cast iron surface plates were better than granite, but during WWII, materials shortages made the cost go way up and granite became the standard? Is that right? Did this push the manufacturing of granite plates to be better so that they are better than cast iron now?
+CKOD I have to admit that I am not much of an expert on surface plates so I am not sure about your question. I would think that granite would be more stable than cast iron, but that might not be right. Something to dig into....
That's going to be interesting ... staining the shop I mean ... It took the cat that lets us live with her about a year before she would purr let alone allow me to touch her. Josie seems to like you though.
+David Brant Josie does like me, but it too took time....
SHOP!!??!! It's like 3 times as much square feet as my house. Have fun filling it up.
+Ronald Allen I have been waiting 20 years to build a shop. Now that I can do it, I am doing it right! Why not, I have room for it!
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Just happy for you and yes jealous. :)
Josie is a star.
Oops, I done it again. Made a comment and forgot to hit "POST". Now I've forgot what I wrote...durnit! Anyhow great video on all and especially the shop. Greg (Oh, the cat is impressive, too!)
+Charles Compton Thanks Greg - don't forget to hit POST next time!
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org It was a dandy dynaflo; what a shame I can't remember what all I said!
please make an update video for the furnace, i would like to see it in use for the first time! :)
+Mostafa Mohsen Be patient! It won't be long....
Hi Kieth, being in GA I'm guessing you have a lot of humidity. I'm in SE TX and having fits trying to keep rust at bay. How do yo keep your tools from rusting away? Thanks, Bruce
+Bruce E I think that the first key is having an insulated shop. Keeping the machinery at somewhat of a stable temperature keeps the machines from "sweating" like you can get when you have rapid temperature changes. I also keep those little moisture packages that come inside of all kinds of consumer goods - they are in a little pouch - and I throw them in the drawers of my toolbox - that also helps. And finally, I try to keep a coat of light oil on things most of the time. Even with all of that, it can be challenging.
Thanks for another great video. I am curious about the price of the Kennedy but don't want to pry. I have a Kennedy like that, but in much better shape, except for the lock, that was my Dad's. Just curious, and don't feel pressured to give a price if you don't feel comfortable doing so.
+M E Boyd I have seen a couple in Galesburg, MI that were marked $80.00. They weren't there the next time I went.
+M E Boyd He had a price tag on that box for $30, but as I said, we ended up trading some items and at the end, he paid me! $30 is cheap in my opinion, even for a box in that condition.
Thanks. Not selling mine, just curious.
Nice new shop :-)
+Miguel Miguel Thank you!
Isn't the cast iron surface plate used in making a granite surface plate straight? Like in Tom Lipton's recent video on the topic. Or are those lighter versions?
edit: Josie rocks :D
+aserta In Tom's video, he was using a cast iron plate as a lapping tool, but they were often used as a surface plate themselves. I am not sure if the lapping plate he was using is the same as the surface plate I have, but I am sure that one could use a plate like mine to get that job done.
+aserta We had to have the surface plates in the tool rooms and quality lab certified and had a contract with a company. They used diamond dust and an iron plate but it was a special with two vertical handles. The tech called it a shoe. He would hammer the diamond into the surface of the shoe with a mallet. He'd flip the shoe over and then dress the top of the stone. North to South. Then East to West. Usually only took a couple passes.
Of course the tool makers and quality guys would toss you out on your ear if you put your bare hand on the surface plate. They kept them like operating tables. :-)
I'm glad to see the siding go up..I was a little worried about it (.during a wind storm.) Will you have a railroad track running up to the door? :-)
+Steven Hardy Yeah, I am glad to see it going on as well. I hope they are working on it this week - I am on the road again so I don't know if they have come out or not..... No RR tracks in this shop....
No RR track....but it is nice knowing that you could fit one in there...along with the coal tender !
Enjoyed!
+outsidescrewball Thank you sir - I have been enjoying watching you work on that 10EE! I will have to shoot you some pictures of its BIG brother that I am about to get for my shop.....
What ratio is the new workshop in terms of area in comparison to the house? :-D
+Simon Crabb You are starting to sound like my wife now....
+Simon Crabb I am safe I guess since my shop is only about half the sqft of my house. By volume they are pretty close though.
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org You've only got one shop. How many pairs of shoes does she have?
The shop is looking great!
+Mark Mossinghoff then the argument may be, can she store her shoes in it! and then she can buy more pairs to fill it!
you should make a playlist of you making the windows and glazing and all that stuff I think I would be very interesting
+joshua barba I started to shoot some video of me working on the windows but to be honest with you, I was so far behind getting it done that I just did not need to take the time try and shoot video. Shooting video really slows me down and I was needing to just get that job done in a hurry....
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org
I understand thank you
will do
Keith, get some Metal Rescue and soak that cast iron straight edge in it. It won't hurt the metal at all and you don't have to use elbow grease on it & worry about damaging the surface. I discovered this stuff when doing my first motorcycle restoration and have become the biggest fan of it.
Most Home Depots carry it but you can go to www.metalrescue.com and search for a location to buy it in your area. It costs about $25 per gallon and you may need 2 gallons for that piece but you can filter the stuff and re-use it over & over.
+Ron Icard I will have to try that sometime. I have a bunch of Evaporust that I use all the time and I plan to soak it in that. I think it is a pretty similar product.
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Evaporust will work fine on the camelback and the surface plate, but do NOT leave part of it above the surface of the liquid. It will etch a nasty notch in the work at the air/liquid interface. Custom soaking troughs can be made from scrap lumber and Visqueen (polyester plastic sheeting) to fit awkward sized items. Also, the angle on the camelback should be less than anything you want to mark with it. A typical angle is around 40 degrees, so you can mark common 45 and 55 degree dovetails. The straightedge needs to be tilted for marking. It is better if the work can be tilted so the camelback can be more evenly balanced over the work for getting a good print on the surface of the work.