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Why You Should Use an Expression Pedal With Delay - 7 Useful Tips and Tricks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ส.ค. 2024
- Using an expression pedal with your delay is a great way to explore unique sounds or to make your delay pedal more versatile and easier to switch between all of it’s different settings.
I used a Boss DD-8 Digital Delay and Boss EV-30 expression pedal for this but you can use whatever you want. Just make sure that your delay pedal has an expression pedal input and it's best if your expression pedal has a minimum control on it.
Here's a list of some delay pedals with expression pedal inputs -
Boss DD-8 - amzn.to/3taydhU
Boss DD-7
Boss DD-200 - amzn.to/3nB8HRF
Boss RE-20 - amzn.to/3xDoTqo
DigiTech JamMan Delay
DigiTech TimeBender
electro-harmonix 1100TT - amzn.to/3aRyqA6
electro-harmonix 550TT - amzn.to/3eFGCVy
electro-harmonix Deluxe Memory Boy - amzn.to/3aT4HXH
electro-harmonix Memory Boy - amzn.to/3t5Q3CS
TC Electronics Flashback x4 Delay - amzn.to/3t8EkTX
Eventide TimeFactor
Line 6 DL4 Delay Modeler
Vox DelayLab
Pigtronix Echolution
Here's some good expression pedals -
Boss EV-30 - amzn.to/3t5QxZI
Electro-Harmonix Single Expression Pedal - amzn.to/3xKokez
Electro-Harmonix Dual Expression Pedal - amzn.to/3e7tMAa
Boss FV-500H - amzn.to/3vpYNVM
Timecodes:
00:00 - Intro
00:25 - Two Mode Delay Using Effect Level Control
01:31 - Tremolo / Interrupted Delay
02:32 - Three Mode Delay using Feedback Control
04:09 - Rhythmic / Sampler Effects
05:06 - Three Mode Delay using Delay Time Control
06:01 - 'Wobbly' Delay
06:58 - Controlling Self Oscillation
Tip One
Easily switch between two preset delay volumes, mid song, mid jam whenever you want without having to get down to adjust the pedal to find your other setting. Subtle, low volume delay with your heel back, loud and intense delay with your toe forward on the expression pedal.
Tip Two
With the expression pedal controlling the full range of the effect level control try ‘pumping’ the expression pedal. You could do it in time to the music, it’s a bit like having a tremolo effect applied just to the delay signal. If you play chord stabs you’ll get a glitchy sounding choppy delay signal.
Tip Three
This is how to get a kind of three mode delay pedal. With the expression pedal controlling the feedback control, set the toe forward position, the maximum amount of feedback to just before the delay pedal starts to self oscillate and feedback on itself. Then set the heel back position, the minimum amount of feedback all the way to the left, to zero. This way, you can have a 50s slap back at heel position, an ambient delay around the middle position and big long spacey echo at the tip position.
Tip Four
With the expression pedal controlling the feedback time / amount of repeats, you can get really interesting choppy, sampler type rhythmic effects by setting E. Level to the same volume as the original signal, the delay time to 16th or 8th note and then using the expression pedal to switch from one repeat to more than one repeat of a staccato note or chord.
Tip Five
This is another three mode option you might find useful. With the expression pedal controlling the delay time, set a reverb type delay time at heel and a big long echo at tip of foot, the in-between position can be used for medium ambient echo.
Tip Six
For some weird and wobbly sounds use the expression pedal to control the full range of the delay time and also the feeback control but it’s maximum set to just before it self oscillates and slowly move the exp pedal as you play. This works well with a more narrow range setting on the expression pedal as well but this can just be done by being selective with how far you travel on the treadle too.
Tip Seven
Setting the feedback quite high so that the pedal is just starting to self oscillate, use the expression pedal to control the speed and pitch of the oscillation.
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Congrats Michael for your channel!! You love the guitar gear and this transfers into your videos!!
Thanks. Yes I enjoyed this one!
Great demo, explanation and playing
Proper Video on how to use one pedal to get the most out of it, very nice, thanks.
Really interesting video, thank you! Your musical examples are great. I just picked up a DD8, I think I need to get an expression pedal with one of those trimmers.
Glad it was helpful! There's some suggestions for expression pedals in the description that you might find useful
for real, great musical examples!!
Thank you, you make quality videos. I like to watch them.
Glad you like them, thank you!
Very informative vid. Learned something new & I'm old as dirt. Thanx!
Thanks for commenting! Glad to hear you found it helpful!
Bought an EV-30 for my RE-20 (space echo) great fun!
Great video thanks for the creative ideas
Glad you like them!
Hi Michael! Loved the video. I don t understand something, how do you change and selecti the parameter that the expression pedal modify? Thanks!
you have to hold down your dd8 while plugging in the expression pedal. the light will turn orange and you can now set your maximum parameters. if you dont want a parameter to be affected (for example volume/level) you simply turn it all the way down. when you now chose your maximum/toe down position you press the dd8 footswitch and set your parameters.
@@Jib_ tks for the explanation!
I'm glad you asked this. It's insane he didn't explain that!
@@Jib_ thanks man! You definitely helped me out!
Thanks, it was hard to find rhe answer
Hey, I use my thick toe to turn the delay knob on my MXR M169. :) Works too but this is by far easier of course. Unfortunately, my MXR has no expression out. Too bad. Thanks for the instructive video.
Highly useful channel. ++
Glad you think so, thank you!
Can you use the dual expression pedal to also control the tempo on a looper to sync the tempos
I like your tone. What have you got for pickups?
Great idea! I've always thought about using the expression pedal to control parameters like flanger resonance or chorus rate (I think it can be done in a Boss GT-100). I've got to try this too
Go for it! I find with modulation like chorus, phasers and flangers that my favourite parameter to control with the expression pedal is often the rate, similar to a treadle controlled uni-vibe. But if it's programmable to any combination of parameters the possibilities are almost endless. Have fun!
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Thanks for the suggestion! And keep up the good work, I like your videos a lot!
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar what about the expression pedal with glitch mode? have you tried? thanks! fed
@@MusicFed from what I remember the expression pedal doesn’t do anything in glitch mode unfortunately.
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar ouch. such a missed opportunity. but if you can simply move the time using the pedal, shouldn't the glitch change drastically already?
Is there any way to use both an expression pedal AND a foot switch with the DD-8? Would love to be able to use both.
Thanks,
Bill
i'm thinking, what can we do with expression pedal & fuzz factory pedal.
don't get how you tell the expression pedal to be activo on the time, or on the feedback, or on the general control... how you swith it? thanks
Hey, I'm curious what guitar you're playing there!
Hi! Thanks so much for the awesome video. I have a query:
Im setting up my expression so that toes down it increases the volume and feedback of the delay. However, when i transition from toe up to to down on the expression, it produces the weird wobbly sound you get when you change the tempo in the delay. How can i get rid of it?
That's just how delays work, no way to get rid of it. Only by not playing when you do it.
Hi Michael, can I speed up the tempo of a loop using an expression pedal? I find the DD8 manual so hard to understand. Great video!
i have the same question! plz answer if you figured it out
@@Jib_ I'm not 100% certain but I think in the end I concluded that the answer is no.
can you hook up an expression pedal AND a tap tempo switch using a TRS split cable?
That's a lovely idea, but unfortunately I suspect not. I'm pretty sure it's one or the other I'm afraid.
Do I have to use a boss expression pedal for a boss dd200? Because on a line 6 pedal it lists only their effects
As far as I can tell the DD-200 will be fine with other brands of expression pedal, EHX do a good expression pedal that would work just fine. Hope that helps
How do you change the delay time on dd7 with ev 30? Mine only changes the volume but not the delay time.
Here goes: Make sure the pedal isn't in loop/hold mode. Press and hold down the pedal switch on the DD7 while connecting the expression pedal. The check indicator should light orange and you can release the switch. Turn the E.Level, F.Back, and D.Time knobs to set the maximum values of the ranges you want to control. If you don’t want to control a particular parameter with the expression pedal, set its value to the “min” position. Press the switch on the DD7 to save those settings and the pedal will be setup for you to use. Hope that helps.
I noticed around the 3.30 minute mark, when you played soft, it sounded as if there was only 1 repeat, but when strumming harder the more delay/repeat kicks in. But I didn't notice your foot changing the level on the expression pedal. How did you achieve this "touch sensitivity"?
I think it's just because when I'm playing softly and more legato those later repeats become inaudible because they're so quiet. You can only really hear the later repeats if I really hit a loud staccato chord and then the later repeats suddenly become more obvious. It's a playing thing rather than an effects setting thing. I hope that helps anyway.
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar yeah mate, thank you. All about control of the right hand! Appreciate the swift response :)
4:40 I don't know for sure, but this is similar to King Gizzard delay effect
Does this work with a DD-7?
Great with my Collider…I usually use wet/dry. But feedback is cool, but for delays minimum needs to be set above or high below….otherwise it gets too wild!
I've actually been on the fence about getting an expression pedal to use with the Collider. I understand it can control up to 3 parameters. Can you basically choose any 3 or is it limited in any particular way?
@@coreyclark6505 yep you can…easy way to try is to hook it up to a computer.. select presets and in those presets there is a drop down for 3 control settings. You can have them automate all at once or just feedback, wet dry or whatever. You can do it on your own patches…but the presets are an easy way to get started as it’s all layed out. Once you do it, just hold the save button on the pedal. It doesn’t unlock it for all of them. So you can save each preset with whichever 3 expressions you want. It’s good for the modulation stuff, or doing a wet dry blend to create ambient feedback…def worth the small amount to spend on an expression. I also use one with my RE20!
Thanks! Nobody really demo's that functionality for some reason... @@mattg082
How do you set up just the delay time for boss dd7 with boss ev 30?
I think I've already replied to a similar message but here it is for the EV30 to just control delay time: Make sure the pedal isn't in loop/hold mode. Press and hold down the pedal switch on the DD7 while connecting the expression pedal. The check indicator should light orange and you can release the switch. Turn the E.Level, F.Back all the way down and D.Time up to the maximum delay time that you'll want. Press the switch on the DD7 to save those settings and the pedal will be setup to control the delay time. Hope that helps.
Configurações plzzz ????
sorry I didn't see anything! what you do exactly?
how would you configure the pedal to increase the feedback and decrease the time?
Just so I'm clear what we're talking about, when you say decrease delay time do you mean faster delay time with less time between repeats or slower delay time with more time between repeats?
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar faster delay time with less time between repeats
Thanks. Unfortunately, you can't configure the expression pedal to move one knob up while controlling another to simultaneously go down so it isn't possible on the DD-8. Some delay pedals have the time control work in the opposite direction (Boss DM-2 does this) so it's not always the case. Hope that helps
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar and that could be done with the toneprint app in the flashback 2?
@@emilianoibarra3537 Yes it can definitely be done on the Flashback 2. The mash switch on the Flashback 2 is actually set up to behave like that by default on a lot of the settings actually, definitely the tape setting I can't remember about the others though. It will send the delay into swirly self oscillating goodness.
In fact that reminds me there is a way you can get that same self oscillating effect from the DD-8! If you connect a dual footswitch like the Boss FS-7 to the DD-8 when you press and hold switch A it will send it into self oscillation in basically the same way the mash switch on the Flashback 2 does. I'm planning on making a video about using a dual footswitch with the DD-8 soon so keep a look out for it.
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This must be the way delay is being used in the song “sticky hulks” by thee oh sees.
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