Insight with Peter Hitchens: How British politics lost its way

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  • 11/05/2009 - Peter Hitchens talks about the need for a new political compass in a world where traditional boundaries between the Left and Right no longer exist.
    Left-wingers backed the invasion of Iraq and Tories campaign for civil liberties yet conventional wisdom insists on operating as if the age-old divisions between political parties still apply, argues journalist, author and broadcaster Peter Hitchens.
    In his new book The Broken Compass How British Politics lost its way, Peter Hitchens, who writes for the Mail on Sunday, argues that the real divide is between politicians and the electorate and is both a threat to Parliament and to society.
    Peter Hitchens takes on the "conformist media" for continuing to adhere to such obsolete notions of Left and Right and calls for the re-establishment of proper adversarial politics based on principle.
    Peter Hitchens is a journalist, author and broadcaster who worked on the Daily Express for most of his career. He resigned on principle in protest at the takeover by Richard Desmond and now writes for the Mail on Sunday.

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  • @paulconnelly4050
    @paulconnelly4050 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The best commentator on the state of politics in Britain.

    • @trippbruce4509
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      @cademoses857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @alanhaggarty9880
    @alanhaggarty9880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Incredible just how relevant this still is today. Probably more so.

  • @ssrmy1782
    @ssrmy1782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The woman moaning about his fire brigade argument exemplifies the entire point of his argument. This is what happens when emotion leads before logic & reason.

  • @SgtAndrewM
    @SgtAndrewM 11 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    finally, a man who speaks sense.

  • @NickAlekseyevich
    @NickAlekseyevich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lovely how the woman abandoned her argument at the time of fire brigade example.

    • @seanmoran6510
      @seanmoran6510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truth hurts
      And tell me who likes hearing that.

    • @Mr___X
      @Mr___X 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was 2009. Imagine the slide leftward she has made since.

  • @thewizeard
    @thewizeard 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think it is exactly the right time, for a New Conservative Party, so what's stopping you, Peter! Don't leave it to Nigel Farage!

    • @arvidfalk5719
      @arvidfalk5719 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thewizeard Why not though?

    • @stephenowen3383
      @stephenowen3383 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thewizeard We need someone to put forward actual principled conservatism I agree. Nigel Farage has no principles but to leave the European Union, and UKIP are just a projection of that. With anything else, if it is politically popular he will adopt it.
      The issue with Peter is he has no desire to do it, and I don't believe he would be suited to the absurd rigmarole of modern day politics. You have to be sharp and flexible, and Peter isn't flexible.

    • @Mr___X
      @Mr___X 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephenowen3383 For that to happen, there has to be a military victory against the people who won the last big war. Given how unlikely that is, we're left with petty politics, and principles are weak in the face of all the other tactics that can be employed.

    • @michaelfern4079
      @michaelfern4079 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A military victory against the winners? Who won the war?

    • @Mr___X
      @Mr___X 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelfern4079 3 guesses

  • @abruhigoham7472
    @abruhigoham7472 ปีที่แล้ว

    42:05 “yes, let me finish” 😂😂

  • @AriZBlade
    @AriZBlade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He's about 10 years ahead of everyone else

  • @mbrenner3629
    @mbrenner3629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peter says his book is selling better now than it ever has before

  • @MrSstiel
    @MrSstiel ปีที่แล้ว

    I've read P.H for over twenty years. There's a lot to be said for what he has called a Gaullist political party and I think it would be great if the two main parties were broken up. I write from May 2023 and we are in a terrible mess now.

  • @jackominty3633
    @jackominty3633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy at 33m sounded like he was pissed.

  • @seanmoran6510
    @seanmoran6510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like listening to Peter but I think his views on Powel are simplistic.
    Micheal Foot thought Powel wasn’t a racist and I tend to agree.
    What Powel failed to recognise (and many of us) is that his England died on the bloody fields of Flanders in 1914 -18.
    Rip Anglo Norman England.
    It would have been interesting if the two had engaged in debate.
    Peter is of course entitled to his views.

    • @michaelfern4079
      @michaelfern4079 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      England died in Flanders? How so? Thanks.

    • @oliverreno4734
      @oliverreno4734 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelfern4079 All the good men were killed by machine gyn fire in no mans land and their bodies turned into rat food.

    • @Mr___X
      @Mr___X 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hitchens has a strange blindspot on certain topics, and this is certainly one of them.

  • @bensintes3745
    @bensintes3745 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The problem is they never had a compass, even if they had, none of them would have known how to use it. Maybe they just wanted to be supprised when they got there, wherever there was.

  • @takepartlive
    @takepartlive 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People should vote more!

  • @lemonadeforsale
    @lemonadeforsale 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He doesn't he is simply a Christian if that makes him insane so be it. I personally salute himfor standing by his faith.

  • @MeatloafAnderson
    @MeatloafAnderson 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sound quality is poor unfortunately.

  • @MidnightRambler
    @MidnightRambler 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Haha the lady didn't like the truth

    • @seanmoran6510
      @seanmoran6510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha no she didn’t
      Truth hurts and that’s what she hates

  • @joefulham
    @joefulham 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They don’t pack their bags and leave when they lose a general election in Ireland.mr Hitchens is right-when they do eventually get an elected government, it will be mostly the same people.

  • @semorton99
    @semorton99 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    At last someone sensible, i.e. Jonathan Bones

  • @colonelwhite1512
    @colonelwhite1512 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He thinks the parties are broken but he is happy with the House of Lords. Says it all.

    • @GabrielNicho
      @GabrielNicho 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Ned Kelly The only thing that has broken the House of Lords is that it has made itself mostly non-hereditary and long before that voted itself irrelevant.

    • @Mr___X
      @Mr___X 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lord owes their allegiance to the land, and by extension the people. A bureaucrat owes allegiance merely to power, hence population replacement.

    • @secretsteven4535
      @secretsteven4535 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabrielNicho the House of Lords should have remained hereditary (in the main) however those seating there should have only done so on the strict understanding that privilege has responsibilities

    • @dannyd96
      @dannyd96 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@secretsteven4535A blend between the hereditaries and an appointment system like the Irish Senate would have been adequate in maintaining the integrity of the house whilst expanding the role of experts across sectors.

    • @secretsteven4535
      @secretsteven4535 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dannyd96 Which would be
      Much preferable to the present fiasco

  • @KnightsHospitallerBC
    @KnightsHospitallerBC 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Women and men are different...women are not rude, women are emotional, and not willing to take responsibility for what they say. Women are emotional, but men are rational.

  • @utubecomment21
    @utubecomment21 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Discrimination*
    *Oxford Dictionary* - The _unjust_ or _prejudicial treatment of_ different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

    • @utubecomment21
      @utubecomment21 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      DrRamer2 And it also means:
      *Oxford Dictionary* - The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

    • @richwilliam3378
      @richwilliam3378 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, but that's a modern, adulterated definition designed to coincide with modern misuse. I am still very much alive and of working age. The dictionary I have from a child is different. Based on that quite legitimate definition I discriminate all the time; apart from anything else, I'm vegetarian, so I am discriminatory about what I put on my plate and what I put in my mouth and chew. I intend to continue to discriminate - on that issue and on anything else I choose.

    • @utubecomment21
      @utubecomment21 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rich William "
      Yes, but that's a modern, adulterated definition designed to coincide with modern misuse"
      Says you!

    • @AugustusCaesar88
      @AugustusCaesar88 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      utubecomment21 no it's actually a fact, definitions have been changed a great deal in the last few decades for the exact reason you've just illustrated so well, so that people can be put into boxes when they step outside of the "norm."

    • @11Kralle
      @11Kralle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      discrimination - the making of distinctions, divisions, separations
      If Peter wouldn't hold the door for that fierce specimen of humanity called "woman"...
      ...well, it would still be some kind result of his discrimination.

  • @lucaBianc
    @lucaBianc 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    make sure you don't forget your fedora on your way out.

  • @Yourismouter
    @Yourismouter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't agree with all of Peter Hitchens's analysis and tactics (on not voting just vote for the existing alternatives not any of the major parties that's easier and radically can be done). and I most certainly do not agree his social conservatism and Prohibitionist view but he is right that UK politics is broken, and there isn't a dime worth a difference between New Labour even with a Corbyn heading it, the Tories, Lib-Dems or UKIP there all including the press different flavors of right-wing sodas.all imperialists abroad, all for austerity, all for punitive punishments and conserving a regressive class system, and assaulting people's civil liberties. I'm glad PEter Hitchens I like his comments on the late Tony Benn the best prime minister the UK never had, and the fact he's defended Jeremy Corbyn and like Peter Oborne his colleague at the Daily Mail has defended Corbyn against the disgusting assault by him by the entire corporate press/state press and political parties and see him as a genuine opposition figure and refreshing compared to the echo chambers the UK public is subjected to in education, work, TV, and so fourth. Hitchens is also an anti-imperialist is one of the few voices in major publications against the Anti-Russia hysteria. As a man of the left I genuinely want to get his two books the Abolition of Britain and The Broken Compass. and he is right on TV is has destroyed us lol

    • @seanmoran6510
      @seanmoran6510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Labour used to be the bastion of small c social conservatism.
      Seems your upset that he wants to keep drugs illegal.
      If your a Labour voter I’d go with the SDP
      Labour is as dead as the Tory party.

    • @Yourismouter
      @Yourismouter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seanmoran6510 I am hehe! I don't support Prohibition and i'am a socially liberal person but yeah I think Peter Hitchens would find kindred spirits with the Blue Labor folk then . and funny since typing this comment 2 years ago I got that book of Hitchens and the Abolition of Britain and "The Phony Victory: The World War II Illusion" all well written, I particularly due to my anti-imperialism enjoyed the Phony Victory, and actually am waiting on getting his book about his journey into religion. but yeah disagree with him on alot, but some of his positions I do like and Hitchens says he gets that alot with readers hehe! That he gets a hate mail on such and such and then a week or so later the person will contact him praising him for either his opposition to the war on Syria or debunking Anti-Russia/Putin derangement syndrome/ hysteria

    • @Mr___X
      @Mr___X 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Yourismouter Blue Labour sounds a lot like the Lib Dems in the 2000s: a contrarian middle class position of pseudo-protest.

    • @Yourismouter
      @Yourismouter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mr___X haha! kind off, Blue Labor folk belive in in the rights of workers and what not, but more socially conservatives, they think you can be progressive and proud to wave the union jack, and essentially they are a kind of left-nationalism, so they oppose the EU but they believe in forms of corporatism, wanting strict immigration, and i'm sure talk to them about the rights of queer folk and they'll not be enthusiastic about it, tearing down statues of racist people or folks with a racist history they'll be opposed to that,. Paul Embery formerly I think or still a member of the Fire Brigades Union is for Blue Labour , Kate Hoey former MP of Labour for Vauxhall, blimey even George Galloway subscribe to the "Blue labour" thought, and like I said someone like Peter Hitchens I would think he would embrace the Blue Labour folk as its rather socially conservative, but wanting some forms of socialism that he would embrace like nationalization of railways and some issues like that.

  • @lemonadeforsale
    @lemonadeforsale 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First off he doesn't believe in Broze age myths and Christianity has more proof than anything else you could put forward.

    • @MontyCantsin5
      @MontyCantsin5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @lemonadeforsale: I hope you were joking when you posted that comment.

  • @loremipsum7471
    @loremipsum7471 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Trump 2016

  • @dengelke
    @dengelke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love Peter, but questioner nails him on the discrimination debate.

    • @deepzepp4176
      @deepzepp4176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really? At what point was that?

    • @James_36
      @James_36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol must have listened to something else, she was totally and utterly destroyed

    • @Mr___X
      @Mr___X 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, in fantasy land maybe...

  • @gmonkey808
    @gmonkey808 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peter is a lot like Tony Benn. Great man but I wouldnt want to live in his or Tony's world.

    • @seanmoran6510
      @seanmoran6510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Surely Peter is a Social Democrat Economically
      Tony Benn wasn’t.
      This Thatcherism world is loathsome.