Mixing Big FAT Snares - Into The Lair
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- Want your snare drums to have more fatness and low-end in the mix? Dave provides some simple tricks to help you out in the 115th Into The Lair.
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I have been learning your tutorial for 8 months now and I am going to open a studio here in kenya
Nice
congrats man good luck !
Wish the best come to you
you cant be wrong with dave's tricks. how's it going?
congrats!!
"Distortion is not the elephant man" LOL
Yes, called it. I was thinking when he played the original without the extra processing, “That sounds like it could use some saturation in a low band.” I do the opposite (same thing, just with a high band instead of low) to my kick drums to get them to cut through, especially helpful on little speakers like cell phones. I generally use Neutron’s exciter module with tape saturation. The three band option makes it really easy to isolate the spot that needs the delicious saturated boost.
Into The Snare ;)
Well played Jim, well played.
Interesting concept, I played around with this and found this to be the case - it literally sounds like the mic placement is moving deeper into the snare..could be good or bad depending on the snare and how its being hit, and what you're going for sonically...you are limited (as you often are) by mic bleed and other frequencies/instruments being picked up...but that's part of the fun in mixing drums
I see what you did there.
Guys, lemme give you the absolute, no nonsense, 100% best “get a good snare sound” tip. This applies to snares more than any other drum. If you have any control over the tracking, make sure they use a great snare. I’m in the process of mixing an album that used two drummers and the biggest pain in the ass for me is that one used an AMAZINGLY TUNED yammy recording custom and the other used (for reasons unknown) a stock mapex. Snares are much more than a “close mic” scenario…they’re a mainstay in your overheads and room sound, too. You can bring in samples all you want, you can send those samples to all of the parallel processing you want…but that room sound and those overheads will always tell the story of the original snare. Quality snare tracking is of the utmost importance…right up there with guitar intonation.
garbage in; garbage out, as they say
I'm just now starting to practice mixing and having watched a handful of your videos, I'm finding that you have a particular word choice that really resonates with me when it comes to describing timbre, EQ, etc. I love watching your videos and you've been such a massive help to me.
Love how Sound Toys engineers just have fun naming plug-ins and their features
This is why I frequent Pensado's place. Thank you, Pensado.
”this song doesnt need big drums, but it needs credible drums”. That’s the headline like Dave himself would put it 🙂👍 it’s small quotes like that which makes this channel the greatest and is worth going through every video posted, even a 2nd,3rd and 4th time.
you got it going on great sounding drums and mix clean and ful of unexpected color and audio beauty thats how you mix love it
well, thias was the best 4 fkg minutes that i spent in my day
thanks sir
Wow, that really has a lot of effect. I expect minor changes, really helpful to know this trick. :)
This is a great tip. The mix buttons on plugins are excellent for parallel effects. Decapitator is awesome!
Bob Horn is the man!
great tip Dave thanks so much for sharing!!
Thank you Dave!
Decapitator is a beastttt... Never thought of trying this! Great tip Dave :)
Gotta agree. However, maybe the tittle of this video could include the word Decapitator in it; slightly misleading.
Also, what's up Matt?!?! It's Tim from Ex'pression College.
*****
Haha yo what's up brotha! And true. I tried this on a thin synth lead sound yesterday though and this beefed it right up. Definitely more of a decapitator tutorial for sure.
You are an angel!! Thank you for this!
Wow this is great tried it with a few stock distortion plugins in reaper. Came out great with some proper processing, great trick
Fucking decapitator gets me so hard.
interesting...I got the soundtoys bundle over christmas
I really liked this one. Again :-D I love your honesty like "yeah just to be polite i said yes". I really dig your videos not just because of the given information but because of you Dave. My friend who invited me to watch this channel a few years ago was very happy to get the Pensado's Papers for christmas! :-)
If I might give you one little advise: Try to not put your subscribe-overlay over the facecam because people tend to click it away instead of clicking it at the end of the show!
Nice one! I need to utilize Decapitator more often.
Dude I knew it! I knew distortion was the way to go :D
Thank you! Dave!!
you get a similar effect with the preamp on the free line 6 pod farm plugin (no need to have any of their devices, you can get it through their site).
Thanks Dave. You Rock.
I got some pretty great results using RBass as well
te quiero mucho dave
Hi Dave - I love your all your vids. Almost everything I have learned about mixing that I have kept in my brainroom has come from you (and Ola Englund for guitars). Could you consider doing a non-digital gear review? Specifically, about your experience with makes of monitors. Pluses and minuses of the more affordable and more expensive brands, since I'm sure you have come into contact with a full range of them.
I noticed he has Renaissance Axx on the hats. Cool!
Great vid!! Thanks again -
I think if plugin windows had solo buttons it would save a lot of going back and forth to solo and un-solo when applying a plugin, or maybe thats just because i'm lazy
You shouldnt want to solo and un-solo when applying a plugin. It doesnt matter what it sounds like solo, as long as it sounds right in the mix
sometimes its hard to hear the subtle differences when playing around with the different settings if theres too much going in the mix. For sure your final step should be cheking how it sounds in the mix but it can be unnecessarily strenuous on the ears if you keep trying to hear the differences when you're playing around with everything else going on.
Quick key commands are a great way to do just that! Check them out for your DAW. Happy mixing!
pretty good idea. never really thought of that w/ decapitator
make jsut 1x dubstep track and u'll be fame.
Very good idea... i'll try something
Thank you sir!
Pensado done did it again
Check out this guy Raz Klinghoffer's mixes... Pretty loud and clear
fuck off
"Distortion is not the elephant man."
Did you get the 100 000 subscribers youtube award ??
Hi Dave!
PLEASE get in touch with Waves and make your signature series
i'm pretty sure that the vast majority would be all over it !
you're the godfather of mixing engineers.
If someone agrees with me please thumbs up
drumlord beats bro the signature series plugs are a joke
hmm sounds good but i don`t have this plugin is there a way around it? the decapitator is pretty expensive right? ... i do it that way...i take a fft (i love the one that comes with the motu cuemix) look up where the deepest note of the snare hit is and enhance only that frequency, sometimes the gutiar and the bass have much going on there (it`s mostly around 200hz) so i filter a very small band only on that frequency and it`s instantly fatter in the mix
this is a cardinal sin in edm, right here !!
If I time my snare so it reverberates on its own is that a good thing or bad thing for mixing? If you were to mix my snare, it would be very wet to begin with...
How cool, it's like a fat fader without the aux
Song reminds me Jim Carrey (3rd Eye Blind) - Jumper:
"I would understand!!!!"
Mixed song with engineer Raz Klinghoffer nd was very happy about the result.
You shoud check'm out
i currently mixing drums and im trying to remove the ringing in the snare sound.any suggestions?
anyone know the name of the chair hes sat on? looks well comfy?
Why not show the G-channel EQ that's upstream of the Decapitator, because that's where the low-end information is coming from.
thank
Is it just me or does soundtoys plugins sound like a piece of old wood, vintage and gritty kinda creepy in a way but thats how it was in the 70s imo.. A dark kind of warm for lack of better word.
Can somebody explain to me how is the snare sound in "Don't you" by Simple Minds was created? Was it an actual snare drum, an electronic drum?
it's an actual snare drum, there is quite a lot of high reverb, a lot of high end to the snare. My guess is that the snare has a freq boost in de low mid and around 4-5k, then it was compressed a loooot. This is my educated guess :p. The snare sounds electronical because there is a hihat sitting right on the snare each time, giving it a really consistent sizzle.
Thanks for the response. So no overdrive or distortion to give it the "gunshot" sound?
I would find that hard to answer, i'm sure they must have added some subtle saturation somewhere, but i can't really hear it clearly. I'm not too familiar with the song also :) so i can't really help you further sorry!
Been using sansamp on snare for 25 years. You can control the harmonics better.
Ok guys were gonna twwqqak about snare
what is that monitor speaker at 4:08?
Look like Augspurger's ... GA-115's ? but it's hard to be certain.
Good luck with iLok if you buy.
I wish he would of A-B the snare in the mix.
If you feel that way buddy you probably need more ear training. These nuances are for a beginner impossible to hear, for an intermediate mixer hard but for a pro you don't need to a/b that one. But just keep mixing as much as possible and especially in a treated room (that's probably even more important than expensive speakers), but I'll assure you that soon you'll hear it as clear as the seashore when you're on the beach. (I know; pretty lousy example but you get where I'm going with this). :) keep on mixing! 6-8 hours a day is a minimum. Then most people get "pro ears" in a few years. :)
way better than EQ for that
LOL, Pryda snare would EAT this snare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
D:
Ohhhh dammn my man you fed me a straight line right there
can't believe it
I saw that you have Joemeek SC 2.2. This is version with "Dark Mode"? How do you use it?
Are there any budget alternatives ? XD
Rotten 5 layering by making a copy of the snare track and cutting the hi frequencies and then mixing in distortion/saturation with a stock plugin
This is the story of a girl
Who cried a river and drowned the whole world
And while she looked so sad in photographs
I absolutely love her
When she smiles
So the advice was to use a plug-in that I don’t have OK great thanks
it's not about plugin, it's about principle.
Into the Snore
Maaan, I thought it would be about gated snares 80s style...
Ole Dahl
1 second ago
The title is: Mixing BIG FAT snares. How did you come to think it was about gating and the 80's ???
it does sound like a cool plug-in but it sure has an unfortunate name...
ive been sampling the fattest snares for 15 years and equing many types.. this sounds like a casio keyboard snare.. bulllshity..
What mouse is that?
Kensington Expert Mouse Optical Trackball
Thanks, looks like it'd be good for long computer sessions :v
He's not a big fat snare, he's a big fat engineer.
Move along now.
shadap dude
He has Grammy's for mixing - what have you got? lol...
I don't like when people insult others in comments, especially on their appeariance but I have to admit it made me laugh....and to GB3770 I'm sure he is a great engineer but grammys don't mean anything it's all politics and a person isn't "someone" just because of a stupid award.
Yea seriously he is on his death bed.
Honestly, Te snare sits better in the mix without the plugin... So pretty pointless in my point of view..
needs more mids and top end, not bottom end.
saturn :)
Quadrafuzz 2 :)
@@oledahl. Soundgoodizer
You should get on stage with that dry humor.
Well, "Elephant man" reference was great and funny. Have you seen the movie? Are you familiar with the context or just letting out your frustration for not getting it?
that snare sounds like a tin can
I'm sorry but that thermostat on the wall looks ridiculous. I mean, off-white? Come on, Dave. Please cancel my subscription.
wow, that was nice