i have a bios based raid1. its running extremely slow windows recognizes it as a hard drive. I think its treating it as a hdd rather than an ssd. Idk what to do to get my ssd speeds
If you are using a hardware based RAID controller, like say an ASUS hyper m.2 expansion card, or something similar, when you build the array in the bios and the system recognizes it, that is step 1. Step 2 is going into your OS and actually downloading the appropriate RAID array (top & bottom) control drivers for the OS (its specific to chipsets). Then you rebuild the same raid array in the OS system. If you did that and its still slow, you may have inadvertently plugged the array into an X8 PCIE vs an X16 PCIE lane on the board, or you may have used a RAID type that doesn't provide a speed increase (e.g. RAID 5) to provide an example. Let me know what you did to set up your RAID array as best you can. Now if your motherboard has a built in RAID controller (some do, like my own board, though I don't use it) then you need to ensure your RAID control drivers for your motherboard are functioning properly. Also with Hardware Based RAID you really want to make sure you are using the same exact disk across the array. For example if you have a Intel Optane SSD 960 (nvme) and your raid controller has space for 4x nvme drives, you'd want all 4 of those drives to be Intel Optane SSDs. Otherwise the system will use the slowest drive in the group as a base, or it may not work at all. Also with RAID 1, you will typically get slower write times, but you may end up with read times as fast or faster than RAID 0. The difference between the two is that RAID 1 using a mirroring feature, while RAID 0 uses a striping feature. Striping means the data is split evenly across all disks (makes it very quick to write to) however in RAID 1 the data is mirrored across each disk (so effectively you have x number of drives in your RAID and you install 1 program multiply that 1 program *X to get the number of copies stored in your RAID 1). Also the more disks in the array the faster (typically, not always the case, it depends on function and type of RAID). Hope this helps.
@@thetechnologyconcierge6614 hm I see. thanks for the reply and explanation. I wasnt expecting less performance with a raid1 (as opposed to a single hard drive) but I guess it makes sense since it has to write everything twice. I changed my build to raid0 to hopefully see some improvement. windows still recognizes it as a hdd not two ssds but at least I'm not getting hdd speeds. btw it's a fake raid within the bios. idk if my motherboard has raid built in. it's complicated to explain and I'm not 100% sure I'm using the correct terms when I say 'fake raid'. all I'm saying is I didn't buy a separate raid controller. I'm just using whatever the Asus B450m-A offers out of the box.
@@thetechnologyconcierge6614 do u think it would give more performance to set the two ssds as 'raidable', then install windows, then follow your steps in this video to make a raid0? or would it be better to make a raid0, install windows and leave it as is
@@lcvenusaur2168 Well that would depend on what you want to do. The simplest thing to do is use software RAID and an Expansion card to bolster performance by following my video guide...but.... Personally, if you want the most performance and you are not concerned about data redundancy, then I would utilize a hardware RAID controller like the ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 PCIe 4.0 X4 Expansion Card ($70-80) and build a RAID that way. However this gets tricky. The video I have is for Software based RAID, hardware and software RAID are different and Hardware Raid can get tricky. Also making a bootable RAID array may get complicated and can be catastrophic if ever an update goes poorly. See this resource www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-combine-multiple-hard-drives-in-raid-0-using-windows-10s-storage-spaces-feature In my system I use the ASUS Hyper M.2 expansion card with 4 Samsung 980 pro nvme drives in 1TB configuration per drive. So my RAID 0 is 4TB with a direct X16 throughput of 128gbps. (I have 4 RAID arrays, totaling 16TB). However, you need a few things for this 1. A CPU that has enough PCIe Lanes to handle both that card and your GPU (as well as any other things that use PCIe Lanes) your raid controller will use your PCIe lanes, so it could bottleneck your system if your processor isn't up to par. 2. A motherboard with pretty significant support, you mentioned a B450 (not a bad board) I believe it should have 3 PCIe X16 on the board (if its the F-Gaming variant) 3. 4x Good (and FAST) M.2 nvme ssd in your desired size (e.g. 500GB, 1TB, 2TB, ect...) 4. PATIENCE 5. Then you build. **** For Hardware RAID (generally speaking) 1. Using your raid controller install your SSDs into that, then install the raid controller in your PC. 2. Boot into your bios and configure it for RAID, build a RAID array first in the BIOS. 3. Reboot and see if the BIOS recognizes the RAID array (as a single HDD/SSD) the reboot into your OS. 4. In your OS identify your make and model of CPU and then download the correct TOP & BOTTOM RAID array driver controllers for your CPU, should be on the ASUS website under support for the ASUS hyper M.2 expansion card I suggested. 5. Install those drivers, its not difficult but it isn't as simple as click on an executable file and it installs. 6. Once the drivers are installed open up your disk utility and initialize your disks (disk utility will recognize 4 drives probably) when that happens you have to go into device manager and manually change the driver for each drive (two top RAID drivers, and two Bottom RAID drivers) and then reboot. Once that is done you have to download (if not already done) and install the RAID array software UI and build the array inside that and this should accomplish your goal. I've been meaning to make a video on this, but honestly re-building a new RAID array from scratch is kind of a hassle and since I don't have a separate system I can do it on I have not gotten around to it. But Since you asked this question I will make a video soon that explains the differences between software and Hardware RAID and I will do my best to provide a relatively straight forward walkthrough of the process inside the OS after the RAID is installed. I hope this helps I know it was a long response.
I subbed but I hope you get more subscribers man, you deserve it. That tutorial was perfect. I hate when youtubers have a 30 sec. Splash screen, then bs for 2 min. Before getting down to what I clicked on the video for. Thanks for the help!
Thanks for this video. This option worked perfectly . Being that windows will not allow you to set raid on external drives using the disk management tool, this was the best option for me that worked.
If you want to make a raid 0. DO NOT USE THIS METHOD. Skip storage spaces altogether and stay in disk management. Delete your partitions and then right click and create striped volume. It will run you through the steps. I got much better results this way, performance wise.
Dude, you are great. There are a lot of videos on the internet and they are all garbage. Storage management allowed me to do what I wanted. I just realized that the disk manager is incompetent. Thank you so much.
A BIG THANKS ! ! ! This tutorial saved the day, here's the backstory. I was trying to install a RAID 1 storage array with an AHCI boot SSD. Well the Z77 chipset does not allow this combination (creating the RAID 1 with the CTRL+I command messed up the drives but that another story). One way around the Z77 chipset limitation is to set SATA mode to AHCI for the BOOT SSD and create the RAID 1 using Windows 10 Storage Spaces. THANKS, I didn't even know about WIN10 Storage Spaces.
Man, i was trying to get rid of a faulty software raid but didn't even knew how to set it up, thanks to you i now know how and was able to fix it. Thank you a lot.
Great video... Question: if I already have a drive installed with data, and I purchase and install a new (same model) hard drive formatting the newly installed drive, will when I follow the steps to create the raid as you've shown will all the existing data from drive one copy to the new unit?
@@sandyxps Damn people still use 10 years old disks ? Those are useless as they most likelly have less than a TB (which is basically nothing nowadays)...
can we make it work for boot drive too ? My 1 TB SSD (my boot drive) died recently which had all my project files & softwares. So I have try something like this to make sure that I have all the stuff with me when one drive files. And do we have an option to get notified when a drive in the pool is dead ??
I would use hardware RAID for that. Storage pool (to my knowledge) does not allow boot drives to be used in parity. A hardware RAID controller would fix that just more difficult set up. Worth it if your concerned about loosing data.
@The Technology Concierge Thank you for this. A couple of questions: (1) Do you need to activate *RAID feature* in the *BIOS?* (2) I have (3) drives that I want to convert into (1) one to store/backup years of photos, videos and audio files. They're all blank and formatted NTFS. (1st) SSD (2nd) 3.5-inch SATA (3rd) 3.5-inch SATA. I want all the files to be secured and protected from corruption. I'm not. too concerned about write speed as it'll only serve as storage & backup. What is the best way? (3) What is RAID 1, 5, 6, 10 etc? Which do I select for the (3) drives I have using *Storage Spaces.* I do not want to have to buy a RAID controller in order to achieve this. (4) After I have combined 3 Hard Drives into 1... Can you add another one (4th, 5th drive) without having to format again and lose files? In the event I use up all 3 drives... Setup is: SSD0 - Where Windows 10 is installed SSD1 - Backup SATA2 - Backup SATA3 - Backup SSD4/5/6 - Backup future/addition *Many thanks in advance!*
You can keep adding drives to a storage space w/o formatting as long as your system can actually support it. You won't need a RAID hardware controller as well. If you're adding internal drives be sure you're maintaining proper airflow as excess heat can shorten the life of a drive. When creating a RAID array know how much redundancy each provides. RAID 5 for example requires at least 3 drives, but if you use three drives only one can fail before you need to throw in a good one. Way that helps me remember the RAID types; - RAID 0 (striping) = 0 redundancy (different data is written to each drive to speed up access time) (requires at least 2 drives) - RAID 1 (mirroring) = 1 or more extra drives w/ redundancy (same data is copied between both drives) (requires at least two drives) - RAID 5 (Distributed with parity) = combination of RAID 0 and 1 (requires at least three drives) - RAID 6 (Distributed with extra parity) = like RAID 5 with more parity/redundancy (requires at least 4 drives) - RAID 10/1+0 (Nested, striped mirrors) = Creates two pairs (A & B for example) with at least two drives per pair. Data is striped between the two pairs and mirrored within the pairs. If we have a video file on pair A we'd have video part 1 mirrored within pair A and video part 2 mirrored within part B. Between the two pairs you have striped data (video part 1 and video part 2). - RAID 0+1 (Nested, mirror stripes) = Opposite of RAID 10. The more redundancy you have the more space you'll need, so keep that in mind when deciding which RAID. If you really want to secure your files use NTFS as that will give you access to encryption, just don't loose the key or you'll no longer have access to your files.
Thanks for this video. You were very clear. One question though. Is there a way to monitor the drives to make sure they are mirroring correctly and/or monitor one of the drives to make sure it doesn't have any problems and is ready to fail. Thanks in advance for your help.
I just used Manage Storage Spaces for the first time this evening. I created a storage pool with five 5tb drives in a parity configuration. So, the pool ended up being about 20TB out of a total raw drive capacity of 25TB. That seemed to work fine. But, the problem arose when I decided to move my external drive cabinet from one Windows 10 computer to another one. The second computer did not recognize the array. Do you have any idea why that might be the case or how to get around that problem? You see, my concern is that if the operating system on the original computer gets corrupted, or even if I just upgraded to a new computer or just wanted to use a different computer, I don't want to lose access to my data. The external drive cabinet is portable. But, if the array is not recognized on any other computer, the portability of the drive cabinet is no longer possible. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, for the video!
@@Blockbuster2033 No, I'm still stuck using the computer on which I created the array. I do, however, regularly backup my data to other drives, so if I have to I can recreate the array on a new computer and restore from backup.
You need to remove the disks from original machine in disk management and then scan for them in disk management on another machine and then 'import foreign disks'.
Can you do this even without a raid card? What does change between this method of configuring raid and doing it just at the POST initial screen after you turn on your pc?
I just bought two flash drives and want a RAID 1 but it's the first time I try this. A problem is that only my internal hard drive is showing up as an option at this step: 3:13
thanks for the video. im on a precision 3650 tat has a raid. the nvme ssd is small i need to upgrade bout a tb teplacement but i cant seem to clone just this drive any suggestions?
Cool Video! Do you know how well that works if you have to replace a drive? Will it tell you if a drive is dead, or going bad? Basically, is it reliable for protecting important data?
Hi I just found this video. I have a question tho. Should I use this method to combine my primary disk drive that has windows and all my files on it with a new drive? Or will it erase all my data or make the drive unbootable?
Hello i currently have an 8TB that is completely full however im adding another 8tb to make it 16tb. The question is will i lose data on the original 8tb if i create a simple (no relisiliency) drive?
If I RAID 0 two 14TB HDDs together (so 28TB total) on my current PC, then I buy a new PC and install Windows 10, can I plug in both HDDs on the new machine and have it recognize it as a single RAID 0 drive?
Could I configure a R.1+0 with this method or is it recommend that I get a controller? My project: I want to make my desktop house my mini home repository/cloud. I'm using a slew of 2TB Iron Wolf 125 SSDs. My Mobo can have 6 connected at once (Aorus X570 WiFi Elite). So could I accomplish something like this or would I need a PCI-e raid controller
Mounting a folder to a drive won't provide you fault tolerance (resiliency). A storage space without resiliency will mimic a RAID 0. It does make a significant impact on your drive speed because it will, like RAID read and write to multiple hard drives simultaneously allowing your system to write/read more data at a given time. Simply mounting a folder would be like installing a new HDD or just using an external flash drive. (Assuming an external mount point is what you referring to). With resiliency would be a two way or three way mirror. (or other RAID based configs).
So I have created this a while back. Now I had to reinstall win10 I disconnected all the drives besides C: drive. Now that windows is up and running I can see the pool however in “my docs “ the drive is not able to be opened. Any suggestions on how to get win10 to see the drive (3 drives) I have data on the drive.
Once its reinstalled you "should" be able to follow the same process, only windows should show the pooled drive as already created rather than make a new. If that does not happen, I would suggest trying to use disk-manager/management to re-initialize those drives. I've only ever had that error once, but because I had no data on the drives to begin with I simply wiped them. I will look into it this week and try to get back to you. I'll see if I can re-create that error and post a fix in video form. (Hopefully I can). Off the top of my head I am not sure what would cause that specific issue.
Hi - thanks for a very fine tutorial about this RAID 0. Can you tell me - would it be possible - after creating this RAID = drive - to clone my WIN 10 to this RAID 0 drive. So my OS will be a RAID 0. Reason is that i have my quite extensive flight sim on my WIN 10 drive and it will take me a week to make a new installation. Hoping for an answer. I already have a ASUS HYPER X card and 2 WD black NVME ready for exactly this purpose. Thanks John
If you are using Hardware RAID 0 yes, you would have to build the drive in BIOS first then mount it in your current windows, load up a cloan tool and mirror to the new RAID 0 Drive. To make it bootable you need to ensure you have the appropriate settings in BIOS to enable RAID mode for booting (might very for Dif motherboards). Using software RAID like the RAID I describe in this video won't work for that purpose. However if you use the ASUS HYPER X card yes you can absolutely do that in RAID 0. Just remember RAID 0 does not have redundancy, though it will make things much faster, especially running through your bus. Make sure your processor has enough PCIe lans to handle it or you'll end up bottlenecking either the RAID array or you GPU (that card runs on PCIe x16, to get its speeds. It will use up PCIe lanes. Otherwise it should work fine.
Hi, I really hope you see this. I’m trying to do RAID 0 this way with 2x 1tb Samsung 980 Pro NVMe drives. And after going through steps for new striped volume, I get the error: “The operation you selected will convert the selected basic disk(a) to dynamic disk(a). If you convert the disks to dynamic, you will not be able to start installed operating systems from any volume on the disk (except the current boot volume). Are you sure you want to continue?”. How do I fix this? :(
Well I would guess, since its software controlled... your motherboard isn't going to be able to read it, so, the bootloader wouldn't know what to do. But thats just a guess. You shouldn't use raid 0 for boot disk anyway. Use it as a secondary drive. Have something more reliable for boot disk.
hmm, well I have not personally tried it with Samsung SSDs, I did do one with some WD blue SSDs and didn't have an issue. You might try setting up a non parity storage mode first, and if those drives have data transfer the data off then try to format the drive and redo it after a format. I'll look into that, it should not be a problem regardless of the drive but it would depend on whether you are using parity or not.
So with the two way and three way mirror, that would be similar to your Raid1 but the simple or no mirror would be your Raid0 equivalent. This is a built in method, so its software based, and it works generally pretty well. There are more complex methods that can be used (e.g. hardware based Raid).
I will look into that issue. It could just be an issue with a windows update, or sometimes generic drivers don't work properly. That said, are you running any specific kinds of HDDs or SSDs, or are you using any hardware based RAID controllers?
Yes it should, but not always. When a hard drive reports a SMART error, there should be a popup window in the OS generated by Windows10. It will provide a text box which asks you "Do not warn me again" or something like it. Remember a SMART error usually shows up prior to failure, but it does not always show up, and drives can fail without warning. The point of parity, is to keep data safe in copy. So if a drive fails, the next time you use that configuration (regardless of which drive had the data saved) the configuration will not be able to write or read one of the pooled drives (that ought to prompt an error / warning). Windows should tell you if a drive is failing, but it doesn't always.
The Technology Concierge I mean my nas tells me when a drives fails by a led light I’m just asking so if when the pop up window appears theoretically I should replace the drive but in this case my pc case doesn’t have hard drive led lights and my raid is in a parity so it shows up as 1 big hard drive on my pc window. My point being how would I know which drive is bad if there all raided together?
@@lexiaccinelli That tends to be the tricky part. You would have to manually identify the failed drive using your disk manager. I mean to say that your raid parity should have (in your storage pool) a record of which drives you used. The one that is not being read, or is read but not usable would be you bad drive. Sorry about the slow response. The only other way to determine which one is bad is to physically remove and test the drive. Disk manager will show all your drives even if they are in parity or some form of Raid. You should be able to determine which one is not there, or at least which one is having issues.
i don't know why... it doesn't let me do it with my pair of SSD... they are the same space but not the same brand, maybe that's the reason why... thanks anyway !
Nothing happens to the drives in any of the configurations. You can just rebuild windows or even move the discs to another windows system and the structure will remain intact.
(answering in case anyone else comes across this old question as it is still relevant) If you are doing raid 0 in bios and your motherboard dies and you can't get an exact replacement, so does your data. This is software based which can be transferred to any other system. But none of these options are raid 0 as you can't do that in storage spaces gui. You would set that up in disc management.
i have a bios based raid1. its running extremely slow windows recognizes it as a hard drive. I think its treating it as a hdd rather than an ssd. Idk what to do to get my ssd speeds
If you are using a hardware based RAID controller, like say an ASUS hyper m.2 expansion card, or something similar, when you build the array in the bios and the system recognizes it, that is step 1. Step 2 is going into your OS and actually downloading the appropriate RAID array (top & bottom) control drivers for the OS (its specific to chipsets). Then you rebuild the same raid array in the OS system.
If you did that and its still slow, you may have inadvertently plugged the array into an X8 PCIE vs an X16 PCIE lane on the board, or you may have used a RAID type that doesn't provide a speed increase (e.g. RAID 5) to provide an example.
Let me know what you did to set up your RAID array as best you can.
Now if your motherboard has a built in RAID controller (some do, like my own board, though I don't use it) then you need to ensure your RAID control drivers for your motherboard are functioning properly.
Also with Hardware Based RAID you really want to make sure you are using the same exact disk across the array. For example if you have a Intel Optane SSD 960 (nvme) and your raid controller has space for 4x nvme drives, you'd want all 4 of those drives to be Intel Optane SSDs. Otherwise the system will use the slowest drive in the group as a base, or it may not work at all.
Also with RAID 1, you will typically get slower write times, but you may end up with read times as fast or faster than RAID 0.
The difference between the two is that RAID 1 using a mirroring feature, while RAID 0 uses a striping feature. Striping means the data is split evenly across all disks (makes it very quick to write to) however in RAID 1 the data is mirrored across each disk (so effectively you have x number of drives in your RAID and you install 1 program multiply that 1 program *X to get the number of copies stored in your RAID 1).
Also the more disks in the array the faster (typically, not always the case, it depends on function and type of RAID).
Hope this helps.
@@thetechnologyconcierge6614 hm I see. thanks for the reply and explanation. I wasnt expecting less performance with a raid1 (as opposed to a single hard drive) but I guess it makes sense since it has to write everything twice.
I changed my build to raid0 to hopefully see some improvement. windows still recognizes it as a hdd not two ssds but at least I'm not getting hdd speeds.
btw it's a fake raid within the bios. idk if my motherboard has raid built in. it's complicated to explain and I'm not 100% sure I'm using the correct terms when I say 'fake raid'. all I'm saying is I didn't buy a separate raid controller. I'm just using whatever the Asus B450m-A offers out of the box.
@@thetechnologyconcierge6614 do u think it would give more performance to set the two ssds as 'raidable', then install windows, then follow your steps in this video to make a raid0?
or would it be better to make a raid0, install windows and leave it as is
@@lcvenusaur2168 Well that would depend on what you want to do. The simplest thing to do is use software RAID and an Expansion card to bolster performance by following my video guide...but....
Personally, if you want the most performance and you are not concerned about data redundancy, then I would utilize a hardware RAID controller like the ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 PCIe 4.0 X4 Expansion Card ($70-80) and build a RAID that way. However this gets tricky. The video I have is for Software based RAID, hardware and software RAID are different and Hardware Raid can get tricky.
Also making a bootable RAID array may get complicated and can be catastrophic if ever an update goes poorly. See this resource
www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-combine-multiple-hard-drives-in-raid-0-using-windows-10s-storage-spaces-feature
In my system I use the ASUS Hyper M.2 expansion card with 4 Samsung 980 pro nvme drives in 1TB configuration per drive. So my RAID 0 is 4TB with a direct X16 throughput of 128gbps. (I have 4 RAID arrays, totaling 16TB). However, you need a few things for this
1. A CPU that has enough PCIe Lanes to handle both that card and your GPU (as well as any other things that use PCIe Lanes) your raid controller will use your PCIe lanes, so it could bottleneck your system if your processor isn't up to par.
2. A motherboard with pretty significant support, you mentioned a B450 (not a bad board) I believe it should have 3 PCIe X16 on the board (if its the F-Gaming variant)
3. 4x Good (and FAST) M.2 nvme ssd in your desired size (e.g. 500GB, 1TB, 2TB, ect...)
4. PATIENCE
5. Then you build.
**** For Hardware RAID (generally speaking)
1. Using your raid controller install your SSDs into that, then install the raid controller in your PC.
2. Boot into your bios and configure it for RAID, build a RAID array first in the BIOS.
3. Reboot and see if the BIOS recognizes the RAID array (as a single HDD/SSD) the reboot into your OS.
4. In your OS identify your make and model of CPU and then download the correct TOP & BOTTOM RAID array driver controllers for your CPU, should be on the ASUS website under support for the ASUS hyper M.2 expansion card I suggested.
5. Install those drivers, its not difficult but it isn't as simple as click on an executable file and it installs.
6. Once the drivers are installed open up your disk utility and initialize your disks (disk utility will recognize 4 drives probably) when that happens you have to go into device manager and manually change the driver for each drive (two top RAID drivers, and two Bottom RAID drivers) and then reboot. Once that is done you have to download (if not already done) and install the RAID array software UI and build the array inside that and this should accomplish your goal.
I've been meaning to make a video on this, but honestly re-building a new RAID array from scratch is kind of a hassle and since I don't have a separate system I can do it on I have not gotten around to it. But Since you asked this question I will make a video soon that explains the differences between software and Hardware RAID and I will do my best to provide a relatively straight forward walkthrough of the process inside the OS after the RAID is installed. I hope this helps I know it was a long response.
Depends 8on pc. The worst problem with mbr is: its supports only 2tb max
I subbed but I hope you get more subscribers man, you deserve it. That tutorial was perfect. I hate when youtubers have a 30 sec. Splash screen, then bs for 2 min. Before getting down to what I clicked on the video for. Thanks for the help!
Thanks for this video. This option worked perfectly . Being that windows will not allow you to set raid on external drives using the disk management tool, this was the best option for me that worked.
Finally!!! I'm looking for this for a while but always find the irrelevant stuff... Thank You!!!!!
By "irrelevant" you mean you were too retarded to understand?
If you want to make a raid 0. DO NOT USE THIS METHOD. Skip storage spaces altogether and stay in disk management. Delete your partitions and then right click and create striped volume. It will run you through the steps. I got much better results this way, performance wise.
Dude, you are great. There are a lot of videos on the internet and they are all garbage. Storage management allowed me to do what I wanted. I just realized that the disk manager is incompetent. Thank you so much.
A BIG THANKS ! ! ! This tutorial saved the day, here's the backstory. I was trying to install a RAID 1 storage array with an AHCI boot SSD. Well the Z77 chipset does not allow this combination (creating the RAID 1 with the CTRL+I command messed up the drives but that another story). One way around the Z77 chipset limitation is to set SATA mode to AHCI for the BOOT SSD and create the RAID 1 using Windows 10 Storage Spaces. THANKS, I didn't even know about WIN10 Storage Spaces.
GREAT JOB - YOU SAVED ME A LOT OF TIME GETTING ME SETUP WITH RAID ZERO WITHOUT USING A THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. THANKS AGAIN
You explain this very intelligently, thank you so much! I hope your channel gets more popular
Man, i was trying to get rid of a faulty software raid but didn't even knew how to set it up, thanks to you i now know how and was able to fix it. Thank you a lot.
Great video... Question: if I already have a drive installed with data, and I purchase and install a new (same model) hard drive formatting the newly installed drive, will when I follow the steps to create the raid as you've shown will all the existing data from drive one copy to the new unit?
Do not initialize disk under MBR, always use GPT. If you use MBR your computer might not boot.
A ton of us still use devices from a decade ago. MBT is what does it for us. So "always" wouldn't be the way to go.
@@sandyxps Damn people still use 10 years old disks ? Those are useless as they most likelly have less than a TB (which is basically nothing nowadays)...
can we make it work for boot drive too ? My 1 TB SSD (my boot drive) died recently which had all my project files & softwares. So I have try something like this to make sure that I have all the stuff with me when one drive files. And do we have an option to get notified when a drive in the pool is dead ??
I would use hardware RAID for that. Storage pool (to my knowledge) does not allow boot drives to be used in parity. A hardware RAID controller would fix that just more difficult set up. Worth it if your concerned about loosing data.
And what If I do this on disks that has data already? Will format them? Can be done with the windows drive disk and another?
So if one drive corrupts then the second drive will have the data. Will the second driver copy the data back to the first to re-back it up?
Thanks! This was particularly helpful when I was setting up my G-raid (just for clarity really).
Man that's a good simple explanation under 6min
Good for you boy young and small teacher god bless u.
This is beautifuly explained, thank you
@The Technology Concierge
Thank you for this. A couple of questions:
(1) Do you need to activate *RAID feature* in the *BIOS?*
(2) I have (3) drives that I want to convert into (1) one to store/backup years of photos, videos and audio files. They're all blank and formatted NTFS. (1st) SSD (2nd) 3.5-inch SATA (3rd) 3.5-inch SATA. I want all the files to be secured and protected from corruption. I'm not. too concerned about write speed as it'll only serve as storage & backup. What is the best way?
(3) What is RAID 1, 5, 6, 10 etc? Which do I select for the (3) drives I have using *Storage Spaces.* I do not want to have to buy a RAID controller in order to achieve this.
(4) After I have combined 3 Hard Drives into 1... Can you add another one (4th, 5th drive) without having to format again and lose files? In the event I use up all 3 drives...
Setup is:
SSD0 - Where Windows 10 is installed
SSD1 - Backup
SATA2 - Backup
SATA3 - Backup
SSD4/5/6 - Backup future/addition
*Many thanks in advance!*
You can keep adding drives to a storage space w/o formatting as long as your system can actually support it. You won't need a RAID hardware controller as well. If you're adding internal drives be sure you're maintaining proper airflow as excess heat can shorten the life of a drive. When creating a RAID array know how much redundancy each provides. RAID 5 for example requires at least 3 drives, but if you use three drives only one can fail before you need to throw in a good one.
Way that helps me remember the RAID types;
- RAID 0 (striping) = 0 redundancy (different data is written to each drive to speed up access time) (requires at least 2 drives)
- RAID 1 (mirroring) = 1 or more extra drives w/ redundancy (same data is copied between both drives) (requires at least two drives)
- RAID 5 (Distributed with parity) = combination of RAID 0 and 1 (requires at least three drives)
- RAID 6 (Distributed with extra parity) = like RAID 5 with more parity/redundancy (requires at least 4 drives)
- RAID 10/1+0 (Nested, striped mirrors) = Creates two pairs (A & B for example) with at least two drives per pair. Data is striped between the two pairs and mirrored within the pairs. If we have a video file on pair A we'd have video part 1 mirrored within pair A and video part 2 mirrored within part B. Between the two pairs you have striped data (video part 1 and video part 2).
- RAID 0+1 (Nested, mirror stripes) = Opposite of RAID 10.
The more redundancy you have the more space you'll need, so keep that in mind when deciding which RAID.
If you really want to secure your files use NTFS as that will give you access to encryption, just don't loose the key or you'll no longer have access to your files.
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Thanks buddy! A lot of good options to consider.
@@candycommander awesome response!
@@candycommander can i have a 500gb drive and a 1tb drive?
Thanks for this video. You were very clear. One question though. Is there a way to monitor the drives to make sure they are mirroring correctly and/or monitor one of the drives to make sure it doesn't have any problems and is ready to fail. Thanks in advance for your help.
Thank you bro. This was extremely helpful!
I just used Manage Storage Spaces for the first time this evening. I created a storage pool with five 5tb drives in a parity configuration. So, the pool ended up being about 20TB out of a total raw drive capacity of 25TB. That seemed to work fine. But, the problem arose when I decided to move my external drive cabinet from one Windows 10 computer to another one. The second computer did not recognize the array. Do you have any idea why that might be the case or how to get around that problem?
You see, my concern is that if the operating system on the original computer gets corrupted, or even if I just upgraded to a new computer or just wanted to use a different computer, I don't want to lose access to my data. The external drive cabinet is portable. But, if the array is not recognized on any other computer, the portability of the drive cabinet is no longer possible.
Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, for the video!
This is my exact question. Have you figured it out yet?
@@Blockbuster2033 No, I'm still stuck using the computer on which I created the array. I do, however, regularly backup my data to other drives, so if I have to I can recreate the array on a new computer and restore from backup.
@@richardowens9061 Alright. The best idea would probably be to get a dedicated external raid enclosure and handle it that way. At least for me.
@@Blockbuster2033 Yes, that would work.
You need to remove the disks from original machine in disk management and then scan for them in disk management on another machine and then 'import foreign disks'.
Get yourself some larger drives, you've earned it bro. 🙂
Great Video! Helped alot!
Can you do this even without a raid card? What does change between this method of configuring raid and doing it just at the POST initial screen after you turn on your pc?
good communication. no steps missed. only miss is raid 6. it shows "parity" but if i provide 6 drives, will it parity 2 drives?
I just bought two flash drives and want a RAID 1 but it's the first time I try this. A problem is that only my internal hard drive is showing up as an option at this step: 3:13
thanks for the video. im on a precision 3650 tat has a raid. the nvme ssd is small i need to upgrade bout a tb teplacement but i cant seem to clone just this drive any suggestions?
what happens when you remove 1 drive from the raid 1 in storage spaces? is the data gone corrupt?
Wow, this was great! thanks for the tutorial, subscribed!
Do the drives have to be formatted in the beginning? I have a lot of files on one that I just want to backup into a new drive with raid1
I didn't expect a creator with 60 subscriber can do this, you never can't judge someone with their subscriber count :D Salute man!
thanks, been trying to do more, but with work and everything else going on its been hard.
I cant see the formatted drives in manage storage spaces. What should I do?
Cool Video!
Do you know how well that works if you have to replace a drive? Will it tell you if a drive is dead, or going bad? Basically, is it reliable for protecting important data?
Very explicit tutorial , help me a lot , thanks!
Yeah, I can't believe he whipped his dick out like that.
Hi I just found this video. I have a question tho. Should I use this method to combine my primary disk drive that has windows and all my files on it with a new drive? Or will it erase all my data or make the drive unbootable?
Can you add more drives to this space as you buy more hard drives?
Hello i currently have an 8TB that is completely full however im adding another 8tb to make it 16tb. The question is will i lose data on the original 8tb if i create a simple (no relisiliency) drive?
I have 2 drives and my main one isn’t showing up on the list is there any reason why?
Thanks, exactly what I was looking for!
What if ur on a laptop, with a usb hub, with 2 Usb to hard drives hooked up, with 2 Drives connected, and u wanna combine them into a raid.
Thanks thanks to much 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Bro
If I RAID 0 two 14TB HDDs together (so 28TB total) on my current PC, then I buy a new PC and install Windows 10, can I plug in both HDDs on the new machine and have it recognize it as a single RAID 0 drive?
Excellent guide! thank you!
My usbs wont show up in there and there the same size.
does it work with different brands of drive?
wow, i didn't know this feature existed. thanks!
Could I configure a R.1+0 with this method or is it recommend that I get a controller?
My project:
I want to make my desktop house my mini home repository/cloud. I'm using a slew of 2TB Iron Wolf 125 SSDs. My Mobo can have 6 connected at once (Aorus X570 WiFi Elite).
So could I accomplish something like this or would I need a PCI-e raid controller
thanks alot that was very simple explanation
So what's the difference between storage space w/o resiliency and mounting a folder to a drive?
Mounting a folder to a drive won't provide you fault tolerance (resiliency). A storage space without resiliency will mimic a RAID 0. It does make a significant impact on your drive speed because it will, like RAID read and write to multiple hard drives simultaneously allowing your system to write/read more data at a given time. Simply mounting a folder would be like installing a new HDD or just using an external flash drive. (Assuming an external mount point is what you referring to). With resiliency would be a two way or three way mirror. (or other RAID based configs).
How would I configure 6 drives in RAID 50?
Many thanks for this useful information, keep it up.
Thanks you so much for this! Subscribed!
You can use one disk that has been partitioned and raid the partitions
But if that drive died, wouldn't you be screwed? Not really redundancy...
@@ion-shivs LOL yes true this was so long ago I dont even remember the context of this comment.
Please answer this if I remove 1 drive from any two of those what happens
So it won't have a backup?
So I have created this a while back. Now I had to reinstall win10 I disconnected all the drives besides C: drive. Now that windows is up and running I can see the pool however in “my docs “ the drive is not able to be opened. Any suggestions on how to get win10 to see the drive (3 drives) I have data on the drive.
Once its reinstalled you "should" be able to follow the same process, only windows should show the pooled drive as already created rather than make a new. If that does not happen, I would suggest trying to use disk-manager/management to re-initialize those drives. I've only ever had that error once, but because I had no data on the drives to begin with I simply wiped them. I will look into it this week and try to get back to you. I'll see if I can re-create that error and post a fix in video form. (Hopefully I can). Off the top of my head I am not sure what would cause that specific issue.
Hi - thanks for a very fine tutorial about this RAID 0. Can you tell me - would it be possible - after creating this RAID = drive - to clone my WIN 10 to this RAID 0 drive. So my OS will be a RAID 0. Reason is that i have my quite extensive flight sim on my WIN 10 drive and it will take me a week to make a new installation. Hoping for an answer. I already have a ASUS HYPER X card and 2 WD black NVME ready for exactly this purpose. Thanks John
If you are using Hardware RAID 0 yes, you would have to build the drive in BIOS first then mount it in your current windows, load up a cloan tool and mirror to the new RAID 0 Drive. To make it bootable you need to ensure you have the appropriate settings in BIOS to enable RAID mode for booting (might very for Dif motherboards). Using software RAID like the RAID I describe in this video won't work for that purpose. However if you use the ASUS HYPER X card yes you can absolutely do that in RAID 0. Just remember RAID 0 does not have redundancy, though it will make things much faster, especially running through your bus. Make sure your processor has enough PCIe lans to handle it or you'll end up bottlenecking either the RAID array or you GPU (that card runs on PCIe x16, to get its speeds. It will use up PCIe lanes. Otherwise it should work fine.
You should be doing this on the running disk and another disk...
Thanks indeed for the tutorial
Thank sir, you are a lifesaver
Can you setup raid on laptop?
Awesome video! Thanks for this
Well you just made raid easy.Thank you
Hi Dear, Great Video!
What about the Resynching that kepps on happening every time system turns on and HDD usage is shown at 100%?
I'll look into that. Sorry I missed this comment I know it was a while back. Could be a few things causing that. Not sure off the top of my head.
Maybe its curse of RAID5.
learnt something today. Thank you bro
Hi, nice video. A question, let's say if you are a paranoid, can you do that with 3 disks instead of 2?
Yes you can do it with more than two disks, I did mine with 4 on my personal machine
Is it possible to do raid 5 like this?
Very helpful, thanks!
Hi, I really hope you see this.
I’m trying to do RAID 0 this way with 2x 1tb Samsung 980 Pro NVMe drives. And after going through steps for new striped volume, I get the error: “The operation you selected will convert the selected basic disk(a) to dynamic disk(a). If you convert the disks to dynamic, you will not be able to start installed operating systems from any volume on the disk (except the current boot volume). Are you sure you want to continue?”. How do I fix this? :(
Well I would guess, since its software controlled... your motherboard isn't going to be able to read it, so, the bootloader wouldn't know what to do. But thats just a guess. You shouldn't use raid 0 for boot disk anyway. Use it as a secondary drive. Have something more reliable for boot disk.
You can try making it in your bios if it yours supports it ( mine doesn't -_-)
This isn't working as mentioned, however, does this work with samsung SSD's? i checked health of both and are good, so what gives?
hmm, well I have not personally tried it with Samsung SSDs, I did do one with some WD blue SSDs and didn't have an issue. You might try setting up a non parity storage mode first, and if those drives have data transfer the data off then try to format the drive and redo it after a format. I'll look into that, it should not be a problem regardless of the drive but it would depend on whether you are using parity or not.
I think...
So that was basically RAID1 configuration?
So with the two way and three way mirror, that would be similar to your Raid1 but the simple or no mirror would be your Raid0 equivalent. This is a built in method, so its software based, and it works generally pretty well. There are more complex methods that can be used (e.g. hardware based Raid).
@@thetechnologyconcierge6614 Thanks Bro for sharing useful stuff and your response. I really appreciate it.
Anyone get the “no drives that work with storage spaces are available” error when attempting to create a storage space?
I will look into that issue. It could just be an issue with a windows update, or sometimes generic drivers don't work properly. That said, are you running any specific kinds of HDDs or SSDs, or are you using any hardware based RAID controllers?
Yep, doesn't look like this works with USB drives, works in Mac and Linux, not WIndows?
You may want to add if someone is having an issue creating the pool they will need to restart the PC and then create the pool. This happened to me.
Can I do a raid 5 this way?
Will Windows alert me if 1 out of my 4 drives fails I have it set up with parity I have (4) 2.5 inch seagates running in parity
Yes it should, but not always. When a hard drive reports a SMART error, there should be a popup window in the OS generated by Windows10. It will provide a text box which asks you "Do not warn me again" or something like it. Remember a SMART error usually shows up prior to failure, but it does not always show up, and drives can fail without warning. The point of parity, is to keep data safe in copy. So if a drive fails, the next time you use that configuration (regardless of which drive had the data saved) the configuration will not be able to write or read one of the pooled drives (that ought to prompt an error / warning). Windows should tell you if a drive is failing, but it doesn't always.
The Technology Concierge I mean my nas tells me when a drives fails by a led light I’m just asking so if when the pop up window appears theoretically I should replace the drive but in this case my pc case doesn’t have hard drive led lights and my raid is in a parity so it shows up as 1 big hard drive on my pc window. My point being how would I know which drive is bad if there all raided together?
@@lexiaccinelli That tends to be the tricky part. You would have to manually identify the failed drive using your disk manager. I mean to say that your raid parity should have (in your storage pool) a record of which drives you used. The one that is not being read, or is read but not usable would be you bad drive. Sorry about the slow response. The only other way to determine which one is bad is to physically remove and test the drive. Disk manager will show all your drives even if they are in parity or some form of Raid. You should be able to determine which one is not there, or at least which one is having issues.
That is under the assumption you are using Software Raid versus Hardware Raid.
The Technology Concierge so in disk manager the one that it “unusable” out of my pool?
Gets stuck saying something is trying to access it
will this work with 2 ssd's?
what does parity do?
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Great video, thanks!
Awesome!
damn nice video, how do you have so little views?
Thank you.
i don't know why... it doesn't let me do it with my pair of SSD... they are the same space but not the same brand, maybe that's the reason why... thanks anyway !
on point!
Awesome Thanks man
No RAID 0 there?
Does RAID need to be selected in the bios to do this?
This is windows software raid. If you gonna use your BIOS for raid, raid would be configured from your BIOS.
Thank you!!!
Good one.
can you install windows on it cuz i see a lot off raid o done in bios so i dont get it
You would need Hardware based RAID for that since the software RAID wont be readable as a boot drive. At least not to my knowledge.
what happen if windows crash?
Nothing happens to the drives in any of the configurations. You can just rebuild windows or even move the discs to another windows system and the structure will remain intact.
Great video !
Thank u
WAIT SO UR USING A 40GB Hard drive????
how is this method differ from raid 0 in bios
(answering in case anyone else comes across this old question as it is still relevant) If you are doing raid 0 in bios and your motherboard dies and you can't get an exact replacement, so does your data. This is software based which can be transferred to any other system. But none of these options are raid 0 as you can't do that in storage spaces gui. You would set that up in disc management.
thanks man
Can you add a drive to a (0 RAID) later?
No. You'd have to back up the data and recreate the RAID with the new drive attached.
There is no Raid 0 here. "Simple" means JBOD and yes, you can add discs to JBOD anytime.