I don't rate the Edward/Hughes partnership, only good thing they've done is appoint Arne. The Joyce article is very childish, and quite frankly embarrassing.
Look at Klopp track record of improving players. Whether Anthony would have been better under Klopp is irrelevant think it boils down to system would he have thrived possibly. But this is basically Edward’s reminding everyone who’s in charge. Klopp and Edward’s clashed and while I am glad Edward’s is back with head coach not a manager the blame we know will lie with Edward’s now. We need to strengthen in January and that’s down to Edward’s. And can I just say Klopp is living in Edward’s head rent free.
Thank you Dunc Great video I completely agree with you. This could be a deflection tactic especially with the contracts expiring and maybe to lower expectations about potential signings. One thing we know about the new LFC management, they dont release information without a motive.
Yes he has. John Henry credited Klopp with everything. He offered him a slice of the FSG pie. People like that aren’t the type to give away tons of money.
Klopp called out Joyce in news conferences didnt he? i bet hes loving these digs. I guess its all proof that there was a big fall out behind the scenes. Either that or someone is going to release a tell-all book soon!
It's B.S when it's evident Klopp wanted Bellingham for the longest time, the club stopped the transfer and Klopp went with Nunez instead, at least he knew the team needed a lift and I think he's still been a decent signing.
I'm pretty surprised, we haven't heard Klopp opinion on recent news about disgraceful ref David Coote. Yet Born Again Joyce continues to make little dig articles on Klopp by his backhander for inside scope's. I wonder what Klopp thinks about Born Again now after being nice to him doing press conferences, while at the club.
Great video Dunk Klopps days were always numbered by Edwards return. It really concerns me the way they put out info from the club LFC always played things close to their chest seems they don’t anymore. I hope at some point Jurgen comes out and puts the record straight in time not right now but eventually. Klopp won every single trophy available to a club and still they disrespect him. Tells you a lot about Edwards he’s a snake
No coincidence Liverpool are top, international break and 2 weeks of media on about Liverpool. Weird how the Coote video came out and n that Monday too.
We all know why? Seems like another couple of Englishman have been infected by the Coote syndrome. It would serve, Edwards better, to help his mate Hughes, sort out the contracts, that has been a point of concern for the fans worldwide for close on a year now, if not longer. Best for him to put his energy where it's required.
The way I see this going is that when the 3 leave next summer on the greatest giveaways in football history, there is going to be a bunch of finger pointing and rightly so. Now as you put if Edwards has let their contracts run down, but I would counter that with the fact that there was a year to go and none of the players were agreeing to go, so they have no choice. I do feel it was Jurgen fault this situation has occurred. In his final transfer window, the players should have been renewed or sold. Plenty of us said it at the time, the Saudis even were going to give us north of £150M for Mo, but a short term view was taken. Again I would put this at the feet of FSG because they pulled out of the Bellingham deal and that changed Jurgen. Why would he get the players to commit or leave if FSG aren’t prepared to honour their promise. I think since then there has been a bunch of party games and both players and management have formed agendas and will look to push blame when the seemingly inevitable happens. There currently is a narrative that both TAA and Mo are asking for unrealistic wages, especially when TAA is looking at a haircut to go to Madrid and Mo seemingly only has PSG or Saudi who could afford his wage demands, but who is putting out this? There was the article saying FSG can afford their demands but won’t because it will hinder the overall club, again all setting a narrative that the players at too greedy and FSG are just being good custodians. There may be some truth to this in my mind. For me Jurgen should have renewed or binned them, but that was only forced by FSG. In any case the club will suffer and the stress for supporters will be huge
@2:25 they’re still smarting over losing the civil war to Klopp. FSG chose Klopp over Edwards so Klopp brought in his own people - who tbh didn’t perform so well.
Ian graham’s book describes Edwards as a spiky character the opposite he’s been portrayed by his pr, I think he’s like Billy beane an asshole but a talented one
It is Klopp fault that there contracts run down we all love Klopp but he definitely should of tied these players up before he left especially Trent Klopp will always be a legend but facts are facts
I know Antony has become a figure of ridicule at manchester united but his time at Ajax he was a great player for them. You can see he has a lot of talent with the ball at his feet, yes his output probably doesn't justify his eventual price tag but he was probably Ajax's most valuable player at the time he moved to utd, utd wanted him and we know there's a big club tax on top of all these moves, was signed late in the window and ajax are fully aware of the money in the premier league so it was always going to be an inflated fee. So to use Antony as a shot at Klopp is beyond cheap for me its a very low blow maybe the recruitment team would have liked Antony but not for the price because output numbers at Ajax would never justify a fee like utd paid for them guys to be satisfied with the signing. As I've said before these guys want the impression that they're infallable but there is a span of time where their signings are either injury prone or no longer at the club because they were deemed not good enough and it was after the champions league win to when Edwards and Ward left. These guys didn't strengthen the squad at its strongest and I fully believe they were risk averse because they have such a high opinion of themselves they didn't want to tarnish this mythical reputation they have at being the best in the business
Edwards: van den berg (rid of), Adrian (rid of), Lanoergan (rid of), Minamino (rid of), Tsimikas (mixed views in general), Jota (injury prone), Thiago (too injury prone to keep), Ben Davies (rid of) and Konate (injury prone) Ward Diaz, Nunez (a lot of people have doubts), Fabio Carvalho (rid of), Calvin Ramsay (injury prone), Gakpo (I think well liked in general) and Alexis (again well liked in general) those are the signings made by the "the best sporting directors to ever walk the earth" (as they like to be considered) since the champions league win. I don't think there are many 100% agreed upon success stories in those lists. This is why I don't advise people to just blindly get on the hype train of Edwards being back at the club.
Even if Jurgen was the only one that wanted nunez, hes made more diamonds than shits. so hes entitled to the odd "flopp". But i am sure they did look at antony, they look at everyone. Especially if the data is good. Truth is he was decent in the league he was in, but now hes not adapted. It happens.
Then think, RM spin Doctoring 🤔 as you mentioned. Masters of Dark Arts 🎨 ✨️. On the pitch also. Remember Mo. Moving on. Your cage is rattling. Is this a deflection by our Dark Arts. Clever if it is. While sparks fly. Swoop on what they want. Brilliant if do. Am open minded. Love Jurgen Love Arne. ❤️
Just sums up Edwards as a person .. should concentrate on making sure Hughes gets the funds for slot to get the tools he needs to make Liverpool successful. If he helps make Liverpool more successful under slot than Klopp That would speak more volumes than these petty childish digs ..
The Klopp documentary that never got released, nothing to do with the discrepancies about when he told the players and club he was leaving of course😉😉I thought the exact same thing Dunc. It's way too sus that Joyce has re-emerged since Edwards returned and we're getting these negative Klopp leaks. The truth will out one day am sure.
To many educated football men ( none played the or most have not ).try to make people like Klopp look silly they say oh we know more we went to oxford uni or Cambridge .but grassroots and proper men like jurgen know more thru working with players and being a manager ..everyone knows practice is better than talking ..and all thease edwards and other talk the talk but cannot do the walk ..
Were I to still to have a Twitter account ... I would have posted this Q to Joyce's account : "Was writing a cynical Jurgen hit piece article like this at LFC MGMT's request REALLY worth being the man who gets notified 5 minutes ahead of everyone else about the first contract renewal. So you can be the first to tweet "confirmed"? Do really have that little integrity you sell out shill?"
The Klopp love in is a bit OTT. Like he is infallible. He made a load of howlers when it came to scouting for players and that was outside his skillset; Brandt over Salah, Nunez, Anthony, there's a few more. So there will inevitably be fallout when 2 strong personalities clash like Klopp and Edwards. In fairness to Klopp he didn't go public like classy Brendan did but it's always when these different areas of expertise clash that we get problems. We're not privy to everything that happened but fans need to remember this is Liverpool Football Club, not Klopp FC. Some people act like the club didn't exist before he came along. This was a marriage; one needing the other so let's not lose sight of that.
On the flip regarding contracts Dunc, Klopp was aware. Infact Klopp stated publicly Players come into his office every Summer for pay rises. This regardless of contract length. Why would he say this. If not true. Therefore is he also kind of guilty not sorting them out. Obviously something happened. We didn't get Jude. Will we get him in summer?
It's not only Klopp who will notice these details , Slot will see it too and it may well have him questioning how much he wants to give to the club.
I agree bro it's a disgrace
I don't rate the Edward/Hughes partnership, only good thing they've done is appoint Arne. The Joyce article is very childish, and quite frankly embarrassing.
Look at Klopp track record of improving players. Whether Anthony would have been better under Klopp is irrelevant think it boils down to system would he have thrived possibly. But this is basically Edward’s reminding everyone who’s in charge. Klopp and Edward’s clashed and while I am glad Edward’s is back with head coach not a manager the blame we know will lie with Edward’s now. We need to strengthen in January and that’s down to Edward’s. And can I just say Klopp is living in Edward’s head rent free.
Thank you Dunc
Great video
I completely agree with you.
This could be a deflection tactic especially with the contracts expiring and maybe to lower expectations about potential signings.
One thing we know about the new LFC management, they dont release information without a motive.
Yet John Henry still hasn't said kind word on Klopp leaving us since May. The whole club behind the scenes must have big ego primadonnas.
Yes he has. John Henry credited Klopp with everything. He offered him a slice of the FSG pie. People like that aren’t the type to give away tons of money.
Could you post quotes from JWH on JK leaving?
Klopp called out Joyce in news conferences didnt he? i bet hes loving these digs. I guess its all proof that there was a big fall out behind the scenes. Either that or someone is going to release a tell-all book soon!
Was it Joyce? I remember him digging at James Pearce 🤔
Coote will release a tell all book
It's B.S when it's evident Klopp wanted Bellingham for the longest time, the club stopped the transfer and Klopp went with Nunez instead, at least he knew the team needed a lift and I think he's still been a decent signing.
I'm pretty surprised, we haven't heard Klopp opinion on recent news about disgraceful ref David Coote. Yet Born Again Joyce continues to make little dig articles on Klopp by his backhander for inside scope's. I wonder what Klopp thinks about Born Again now after being nice to him doing press conferences, while at the club.
there lies the reason for klopp leaving , edwards and him never got on first time around
These journalists (especially Joyce) are trying to be as important as Klopp is. Absolute rats the way they have turned on Klopp
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Great video Dunk Klopps days were always numbered by Edwards return. It really concerns me the way they put out info from the club LFC always played things close to their chest seems they don’t anymore.
I hope at some point Jurgen comes out and puts the record straight in time not right now but eventually.
Klopp won every single trophy available to a club and still they disrespect him. Tells you a lot about Edwards he’s a snake
No coincidence Liverpool are top, international break and 2 weeks of media on about Liverpool. Weird how the Coote video came out and n that Monday too.
Absolutely spot on Dunc. Mick Dick and Joyce jealous of Klopp eternal Liverpool hero status. They are NOBODIES
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Yeah born again wasn't spoken to after klopp called him on his bullshit and now he's only happy to do it
They're behaving like a group of teenage girls. Grow up!
If Klopp wanted to sign a bag of shit then they should have let him as he could have turned the bag of shit into a world class player DKB
We all know why? Seems like another couple of Englishman have been infected by the Coote syndrome. It would serve, Edwards better, to help his mate Hughes, sort out the contracts, that has been a point of concern for the fans worldwide for close on a year now, if not longer. Best for him to put his energy where it's required.
The way I see this going is that when the 3 leave next summer on the greatest giveaways in football history, there is going to be a bunch of finger pointing and rightly so. Now as you put if Edwards has let their contracts run down, but I would counter that with the fact that there was a year to go and none of the players were agreeing to go, so they have no choice. I do feel it was Jurgen fault this situation has occurred. In his final transfer window, the players should have been renewed or sold. Plenty of us said it at the time, the Saudis even were going to give us north of £150M for Mo, but a short term view was taken. Again I would put this at the feet of FSG because they pulled out of the Bellingham deal and that changed Jurgen. Why would he get the players to commit or leave if FSG aren’t prepared to honour their promise.
I think since then there has been a bunch of party games and both players and management have formed agendas and will look to push blame when the seemingly inevitable happens.
There currently is a narrative that both TAA and Mo are asking for unrealistic wages, especially when TAA is looking at a haircut to go to Madrid and Mo seemingly only has PSG or Saudi who could afford his wage demands, but who is putting out this? There was the article saying FSG can afford their demands but won’t because it will hinder the overall club, again all setting a narrative that the players at too greedy and FSG are just being good custodians. There may be some truth to this in my mind.
For me Jurgen should have renewed or binned them, but that was only forced by FSG. In any case the club will suffer and the stress for supporters will be huge
@2:25 they’re still smarting over losing the civil war to Klopp. FSG chose Klopp over Edwards so Klopp brought in his own people - who tbh didn’t perform so well.
Totally with u on this Dunk, not liking Edwards at all at the moment, and so far, considering he is supposed to be so amazing, he’s done nothing.
Ian graham’s book describes Edwards as a spiky character the opposite he’s been portrayed by his pr, I think he’s like Billy beane an asshole but a talented one
Slimy little corporate rat. Typical spineless cityboy
Jurgen always gives horrendous suggestions nunez,brandt,gotze,julian draxler, endo etc are the prime examples
Spot on as usual Dunk. Very bitchy attitude beating purposefully leaked out. Baffling.
It is Klopp fault that there contracts run down we all love Klopp but he definitely should of tied these players up before he left especially Trent Klopp will always be a legend but facts are facts
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I know Antony has become a figure of ridicule at manchester united but his time at Ajax he was a great player for them. You can see he has a lot of talent with the ball at his feet, yes his output probably doesn't justify his eventual price tag but he was probably Ajax's most valuable player at the time he moved to utd, utd wanted him and we know there's a big club tax on top of all these moves, was signed late in the window and ajax are fully aware of the money in the premier league so it was always going to be an inflated fee. So to use Antony as a shot at Klopp is beyond cheap for me its a very low blow maybe the recruitment team would have liked Antony but not for the price because output numbers at Ajax would never justify a fee like utd paid for them guys to be satisfied with the signing. As I've said before these guys want the impression that they're infallable but there is a span of time where their signings are either injury prone or no longer at the club because they were deemed not good enough and it was after the champions league win to when Edwards and Ward left. These guys didn't strengthen the squad at its strongest and I fully believe they were risk averse because they have such a high opinion of themselves they didn't want to tarnish this mythical reputation they have at being the best in the business
Edwards: van den berg (rid of), Adrian (rid of), Lanoergan (rid of), Minamino (rid of), Tsimikas (mixed views in general), Jota (injury prone), Thiago (too injury prone to keep), Ben Davies (rid of) and Konate (injury prone)
Ward Diaz, Nunez (a lot of people have doubts), Fabio Carvalho (rid of), Calvin Ramsay (injury prone), Gakpo (I think well liked in general) and Alexis (again well liked in general)
those are the signings made by the "the best sporting directors to ever walk the earth" (as they like to be considered) since the champions league win. I don't think there are many 100% agreed upon success stories in those lists. This is why I don't advise people to just blindly get on the hype train of Edwards being back at the club.
Even if Jurgen was the only one that wanted nunez, hes made more diamonds than shits. so hes entitled to the odd "flopp". But i am sure they did look at antony, they look at everyone. Especially if the data is good. Truth is he was decent in the league he was in, but now hes not adapted. It happens.
Then think, RM spin Doctoring 🤔 as you mentioned. Masters of Dark Arts 🎨 ✨️. On the pitch also. Remember Mo. Moving on. Your cage is rattling. Is this a deflection by our Dark Arts. Clever if it is. While sparks fly. Swoop on what they want. Brilliant if do. Am open minded. Love Jurgen Love Arne. ❤️
I'm with you Dunk. All very unnecessary digs at Jürgen. He's is no longer at Liverpool so why rake up old crap I
ts not going to change the future.
Whatever he writes treat it with insignificance
Just sums up Edwards as a person ..
should concentrate on making sure Hughes gets the funds for slot to get the tools he needs to make Liverpool successful.
If he helps make Liverpool more successful under slot than Klopp
That would speak more volumes than these petty childish digs ..
The Klopp documentary that never got released, nothing to do with the discrepancies about when he told the players and club he was leaving of course😉😉I thought the exact same thing Dunc. It's way too sus that Joyce has re-emerged since Edwards returned and we're getting these negative Klopp leaks. The truth will out one day am sure.
To many educated football men ( none played the or most have not ).try to make people like Klopp look silly they say oh we know more we went to oxford uni or Cambridge .but grassroots and proper men like jurgen know more thru working with players and being a manager ..everyone knows practice is better than talking ..and all thease edwards and other talk the talk but cannot do the walk ..
Keep on Keeping us right. It stinks
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Were I to still to have a Twitter account ... I would have posted this Q to Joyce's account :
"Was writing a cynical Jurgen hit piece article like this at LFC MGMT's request REALLY worth being the man who gets notified 5 minutes ahead of everyone else about the first contract renewal. So you can be the first to tweet "confirmed"? Do really have that little integrity you sell out shill?"
Well sead dunk DKB sqwot
All I can say is.... MO SALAH
Get him signed up cheapskate fsg
The Klopp love in is a bit OTT. Like he is infallible.
He made a load of howlers when it came to scouting for players and that was outside his skillset; Brandt over Salah, Nunez, Anthony, there's a few more.
So there will inevitably be fallout when 2 strong personalities clash like Klopp and Edwards.
In fairness to Klopp he didn't go public like classy Brendan did but it's always when these different areas of expertise clash that we get problems.
We're not privy to everything that happened but fans need to remember this is Liverpool Football Club, not Klopp FC. Some people act like the club didn't exist before he came along. This was a marriage; one needing the other so let's not lose sight of that.
No love in from me, just respect.
Klopp deserves all the love he gets. If not more than he gets.
On the flip regarding contracts Dunc, Klopp was aware. Infact Klopp stated publicly Players come into his office every Summer for pay rises. This regardless of contract length. Why would he say this. If not true. Therefore is he also kind of guilty not sorting them out. Obviously something happened. We didn't get Jude. Will we get him in summer?