10 Reasons NOT to move to Michigan.
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- 10 Reasons NOT to move to Michigan.
Today we are looking at the 26th state to be admitted into the Union, The Wolverine state, Michigan.
Michigan is a great state, but like all states it has some negatives and that is what this video is all about. I hope you enjoy it.
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You mention car insurance and roads. That gave me an idea you might want to explore: Best/Worst states to own a car. You could look at car insurance rates, gas prices, road conditions, toll roads, best/worst drivers, maintenance/repair costs, taxes, licensing and registration, and costs to buy or replace a car. Whatever stats sound interesting and impact the cost of owning a car.
True
ill take a wild guess michigan, pennsylvania and new york are the top 3
I was living in Michigan when they first came out with no fault insurance. They claimed, at the time, that it would greatly reduce the average drivers cost of insurance.
I have a 2003 PT cruiser and get 2700. Car is not worth that
Car insurance costs are heavily impacted by theft rates as well.
Michigan is two different worlds: the lower peninsula (which gets all the attention) and the UP. The weather stats are from the LP, since you mentioned “West shore.” Amateurs! The UP is brutal like Siberia. Look up stats for Houghton/Hancock, the snowiest place east of the Rockies. I survived a 300” winter snowfall there one year
Agreed. I'm in Grand Rapids. The UP is a different animal. It gets much colder and has much higher snow fall than the rest of the state---including areas with lake affect snow added on.
I went on an organized bicycle ride in the UP in late August 1989. The UP is beautiful. It's a great place to visit but I wouldn't want to be there in the middle of January.
300" doesn't even sound real. that's like a century's Worth of snow.
I moved from North Dakota to the UP and was unimpressed the weather I'll take shoveling 3 ft of snow several times a week over the wind chill factor on the plains
More like 3, the UP, the lower upper mitten and lower mitten. The upper mitten gets brutal snowstorms and weather. I lived in whats called the snowbelt of the lower mitten part. We got over 300 in of snow in one winter. And july 4 2009 it snowed. I was born and raised there. Lower upper mitten has more outdoorsy things to do and more rural just like the UP.
Proud Michigander here. Many different parts/sides of Michigan. Overall an underrated and underappreciated state. The UP is one of the best places in the country IMO. So much beautiful shoreline here. You can't beat Michigan summers and Fall.
100percent agree
summers here are horrible, but autumn is unbeatable.
Florida fall is much better
Your stupid left turn system sucks.
@@muhlenberg2608 dude, winter here is like 5 or 6 weeks now, from late January to the first few days of March.
Im from Southeast Michigan (near Detroit) and have lived there my whole life, and I agree with this list, but I'm currently living in the keweenaw peninsula in the U.P. for school,, and its so much different from the rest of the state, especially the bottom half of the lower peninsula, The U.P is such a beautiful and special place.
Agreed
UP awesome.. Detroit turned around and thriving now.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
@@SC-gp7kt lol well damn
@@SC-gp7kt which "news" reported that?
I moved from California to Michigan and thought my auto insurance rate would drop. In Southern California, your car can be stolen, stripped, and end up in Mexico in a matter of hours. As I prepared for my move to Michigan, I read about their no-fault insurance and how it was supposed to keep rates low.
I got a quote from my insurer and it was outrageously expensive!
As a fellow So. Cal. resident, very interesting !
@@josephgaviota my insurance from Michigan from Oklahoma dropped $120
One of our downfall. Insurance. Burr
I had a brother in law who moved from Orange County to Dearborn for a job. He sold his house a 1 story no garage for 500,000. His second wife got half. After being transferred he buys a 3 bedroom 2 bath, basement, 2 car garage, swimming pool in a decent neighborhood for 59,000. Except for marrying my sister he did pretty good. Now has lakefront property for 750,000 in an exclusive neighborhood
Here in Michigan, your car will be stolen, stripped and end up in Detroit.... in a matter of hours!!
I couldn't care less about a "bad housing market." I just wanna buy a livable home, so the cheaper the better, I'd say.
Try Jackson if you don't need a job. You can easily get a home for the price of a car. Seriously go to Trulia and look it up. For around a quarter of a million (the hood in Florida) you can have a mansion. Sadly job market really sucks unless you make that commute to Ann Arbor. If I could land the same job there that I have in Florida I would be up there. I am looking.
I live in the metro Detroit area and there is good houses just not in Detroit because they're so run down it's not livable
There is a shortage of good houses.
Yeah people stay outa Michigan! Less people the better 😏 with winter our bugs can b very low so i don’t believe this guy at all! Try cockroaches down south, ill keep my winters compared to the weather down south,. Manly men live here, n great woman
If you live in a shitty neighborhood you may get killed or assaulted
Detroit might not have many pizza places but the pizza they do have it great
We had Mr. Scribs Pizza 🍕 it was awesome 👍
Buddy's! Yes!!
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UP awesome.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
That's what I told him............and I think there are a good choice of pizza places........at least in metro-Detroit. (and I would guess Lansing and Ann Arbor)
As a Michigan resident, I can undoubtedly say we have the worst roads in the Union. Its comical to cross the border into Ohio and immediately notice the difference
Michigan allows heavier trucks and that eats away a lot of roads
Indiana had good roads as well.
PA can give Michigan a good run for its money in some places on being the worst in roads
I do not like this comment because we have beautiful roads for our cars that we sell in Michigan and I am proud to be a Michigander
@@icysurfer1 the same weight as In and ohio so cut the bull crap
"Detroit style pizza" wouldn't be a thing if we had a lack of pizza. Detroit has more pizza spots and variety of pizza then you could ever eat in your lifetime. Detroit has the biggest pizza scene I've seen outside of Chicago and NYC. There's literally documentaries on Detroit's pizza scene
just like Atlanta when you go there you dont go for freakin pizza you go for wings and souls food!! every place is known for something
Isn't mainly commercial style pizza place, like jets, pizza hut
Love Detroit Pizza!!
@@matthewc2810 i had jets and ppl said pizza hut detroit style isnt authentic and doesnt live up to jets or buddys. I also heard buddys was better then jets i never had buddy but im curious on how it taste and also cloverleaf detroit pizza.
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Buddy’s is definitely a unique style of pizza.. it’s pretty remarkable.
Was born in Grand Rapids in 1955. Was a great place to live. We moved to the UP when I was 14. Loved it there! Lived on a lake. Good hunting and fishing! Been in Vermont now for 16 years and love it! Much more expensive here in Vermont, and just as bad bugs! People in Michigan a bit more friendly than New Englanders. But I like the MUCH BIGGER hills here. Oh, and it rains more in Vermont than Michigan, and no less snow! Thinking of moving back to Michigan for lower cost of living. I'd certainly miss Vermont though.
Grand Rapids is awesome.UP awesome too.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
Michigan sucks now, Whitmer has brought us back to the Granholm dark ages
@@fkrr5 Wow! Do you hate all successful women that are far smarter than you??
I was born in GR, too. Loved growing up there. Quick trip to the endless beaches of Lake Michigan, the smaller, calmer inland lakes, and the "north woods." I didn't mind the snowy winters. Lots of winter sports to keep one busy. I received excellent educations at MSU and UM. I live in beautiful Colorado now, but I enjoy visiting West Michigan when I can. I miss the lakes.
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia As someone who grew in GR, the conditions of the roads have always been an issue. I worked for the Federal Highway Administration for over 30 years and I learned a lot about what road salt and the freeze-thaw cycle can do to concrete. My former agency, working with the states and even international entities, has spent a lot of resources and research to address the problem but there are no easy solutions. It's a weather and materials engineering challenge
The governors have little to do with the problem or the fix, unless they and the state legislature gut the infrastructure budget drastically.
Michigan hasn’t been that bad in terms of snow for a few years. Most of our winters have been relatively light in the past 10 years compared to when I was a kid
It saddens me as a Michigander as I love snow in the winter and winter activities.
@@chriskuhr9325 I know, I miss snow on thanksgiving
Except for the polar vortex we just had a couple winters ago lol.
So true! They were demonic when I was a kid! 🤣🤣🤣
yeah but Briggs is from cali.. he would cry here in april
i’ve lived in michigan my entire life and yknow it may not be as good as some other places but it’s home.
Resident of Michigan, I love my state but I already know this video is accurate before watching it.
Except for the part about pizza......roads, mosquitos and winters.....yes
Having grown up in Charlevoix MI I can tell you that Michigan born people are some of the proudest people of where they live/grew up than anywhere else in the country.
Yes we are
We have good reason
Born in in the south of the state, grew up in Traverse, went to school in Kalamazoo, and Living in Traverse. I'm not boastful or proud of my locale. Doing some out of country traveling can teach you some humility.
Have you been everywhere else in the country? Seems as though that's a fairly common sentiment from people all over the country. Born in Saginaw, left MI 40 years ago. Haven't set foot there since.
I have been to nearly all the states (minus a few on my list) and now live in California. I have also traveled to many other countries. It’s just an observation. I don’t think that it’s due to lack of humility or from arrogance, or even lack of travel I think that it gets a bad rep because people immediately think “Detroit” the minute someone says Michigan, causing Michiganders to get defensive of the beauty their state offers
Four out of five Great Lakes prefer Michigan. Just Sayin'
Haha nice
Very true! LOL
And no sharks.
Yes I grew up in Michigan and I currently still live in Michigan. The East side of the state is bad, the west side of the state is a lot better with lot more opportunities.
I would strongly advise people who are thinking of moving to Michigan who don't already have a job lined up to move to the Western side of the state instead. And if someone can work remotely just about anywhere in Northern Michigan with a good internet connection is a good choice
True. West side thriving
Very sad, but very true
That's bs and I'm from Kzoo currently in Detroit. There is far more wealth, opportunity, small businesses, big businesses, and minority owned businesses in the Detroit area then the rest of the state combined, let alone West MI. Most of west MI is country. The eastside has far more nice and safe communities and far more entertainment options
This is just not true. Sure west side has some opportunity for working class folks without a college education but anyone who is a specialist in medicine or tech would be much better fit for the Washtenaw/Wayne county area.
I'm really confused about the pizza. I've always been able to get pizza whenever I wanted pizza and have never heard anyone complain about lack of pizza here. Maybe some of the smaller towns have this issue, but honestly, I feel like pizza places are everywhere here, but maybe it's my location in Washtenaw County with 2 Universities and several colleges.
When I was a kid in the 80s, I read that Ann Arbor had over 50 different pizza options to choose from. That blew my mind because it was still kind of a small town back then. I don't know how many pizza places we have now, but I have never suffered from a lack of pizza options.
He based the video and statistics on the whole state when a few large cities skew the numbers for the rest of this great state. I have been to 43 states, every province east of Detroit to the Atlantic, a couple Caribbean islands and 2 European countries. There are bad points of every where. You can't base an opinion of the whole state on a few cities. BAD video and unfairly distorted and inaccurate view of the state based on cities that include Detroit and Flint. And there are many good points about these cities as well. There are over 100 pizza places within 10 miles of where I grew up in Michigan fyi.
@@jerry7008 What pizza-abundant Michigan city did you grow up in?
@@marcmcfinn7470 Blame (or credit) University of Michigan. I should imagine there's probably no dearth of pizza places around Michigan State either.
@@christopheroliver148 This is true. But Ann Arbor used to be a working class town as well as a college town. The Universities are not soley responsible for our extensive pizza infrastructure.
I live in southern Michigan, your right about everything except pizza joints. Within a 3 mile radius of my house there are at least 10 pizza places.
Agree
I was also a bit shocked when I heard that 1. I live in Detroit and a quick search showed that there's about 25 pizza places within 5 miles of me lol
I can't believe he actually put Pizza on the countdown that's ridiculous
DiMaggio’s.... awesome
And they're all probably pretty mediocre and will likely give you the shits due to poor housekeeping because of the meth heads that work there.
I literally laughed out loud when I saw your thumbnail, especially after moving away from Michigan not once; but twice. I completely agree with the bad winters, mosquitos and bad roads. I do take issue with the suggestion that Michigan comes up short when it comes to pizza. I would say that outside of New York and Chicago, Michigan is one of the top states for pizza and good pizza. Every third friend I had growing up was Italian and we had some incredible authentic pizza place when I was growing up (Nick's Pizza). If you are in the metro-Detroit area and eat a Buddy's or Cloverleaf square, deep-dish pizza, you know you have had great pizza. You can also get great thin-crust pizza in Michigan as well. Almost every Michigan city has a very good pizza place. Michigan has the lakes, the UP, Frankenmuth, the Mackinac Bridge and Mackinaw Island and beautiful fall colors.
Silver Beach Pizza for the win baby!
Yeah, I also thought of Buddys and and how great that pizza is, I think they've begun to franchise it to other cities and states. Without even noticing it, Briggs identified a job opportunity for people moving to Michigan. Start a pizza place! If there are not enough of them, right there is a job opportunity. I think he was talking about pizza quantity rather than quality. If not, he'd be seriously misguided.......
Wow i don't think you live here! The positive way outweighs the negative😊
I have to assume that you are one of those folks who only reads the first sentence of a comment or email. My entire comment was positive except for the first two lines. And yes, I lived in Michigan for many, many years. @@dianekoepke6893
You must live close by to me. I live in Eastpointe and I eat Cloverleaf pizza.
The roads are so bad in Michigan because of the insanely heavy trucks that are allowed to operate there. That was done decades ago to help the auto and steel industries. A normal semi has 5 axles and 18 wheels, some of those Michigan trucks have about 10-12 axles and 30-40 wheels and haul 4 to 5 times as much weight as a normal semi.
You hit the nail on the head, Michigan has allowed industry to dictate conditions for a long time and though I believe in a fair handshake this is more like "yes master"
Note. UP awesome.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
@@ProudDad1976 I imagine thats why there are buses not trains ?
@@amandamiller304 I believe so yes when I was growing up all the railroad tracks were being removed and the space was turned into walking paths. BUT you make a good point about what I said about the industry I have no idea why the railroad companies did not fight back and with rail being cheaper than bus and way cheaper than semi, I don't know. Sadly with trains today being diesel-electric they are not as bad polluters as all other ways of moving products and people. Michigan's larger cities have no mass transit which I have always found strange, I always thought the big three had something to do with stopping mass transit because even today the largest customer base is their own workers which is not a bad deal for either side until the plant closes.
@@ProudDad1976 I made that point because i have lived in italy for 36 years and the fiat was the biggest employer and every thing had to travel on the roads as they mae all the trucks aithough turin has trams ect
Buddy's Pizza is the best! Former Ontarian turned British Columbian chiming in here!
Agreed.....Buddy's and Cloverleaf deep-dish, crispy-crust pizza is incredible
Spent 34 years in Michigan and don't regret leaving. The economy was terrible then and not much better today. If you don't LOVE winter you should not live in Michigan. Grey skies so low you feel like you can reach up and touch them. Grey dirty snowbanks. Grey people. I love Georgia, where fall lasts until Christmas.
I'm born and raised in MI and we haven't had that much snow in the last 2 years. Also if you're looking for property to buy it's best to stay away from the lakes otherwise you'll pay 3 times more than the house is worth. Also you seem to focus on the big cities way too much. If you locate to a more rural area, we have alot more options than that you might think
Traverse City bloke agrees with that second sentence.
It is about that time. I love this series. I can't wait until u do one again
Born in Detroit , reside 10 mins from downtown now. Haven't watched the video yet. But I bet I'm gonna laugh . You gotta have a sense of humor to live here 😂
Detroit is doing well now
The video will give you a laugh, but if you live in the metro area, you will probably disagree about what he says about pizza.
@Burry Me Face Down & Kiss My Azz hope you didn't bring any of that leftist b******* with you
My paternal grandfather lives up in the mountains of Michigan, like a hermit. Sometimes I'm not sure how he does it, but I can understand why he made that choice when I have to go to work. (Sometimes people are harder to deal with than Mother Nature.)
mountains in Michigan?
@@blackoakpropertymaintenanc6981 yes , in the northwest .U.P. although when compared to the Rockies or Appalachians they are junior mountains. But still technically mountains, with Mt Arvon being the highest. Nothing worth bragging about, but very scenic nonetheless. It's like the inner lakes in Michigan, there are thousands of them, but if you took all the water from every lake, and dumped it in Lake Michigan, it wouldn't even raise the water level. So mountains and lakes are terms that can mislead your perception. Looking back at all I just typed, I should have just answered 'no', lol
@@stevenbender66 It's basically like you said, they are mountains but not in the traditional sense I suppose most people imagine -like the Alps.
They're low but considerably rugged mountains, enough so that a lot of people don't live there. You're pretty much isolated from society, so essential needs (stores, doctors, etc) can not be met as easily as living in a community. But it's what he wanted...he just had enough of peoole. He did consider Alaska, actually, but he loved Michigan too much to let people convince him to leave it. So long as he's happy and we're able to check on him now and again it's fine.
@@CombativeMedic You're grandfather is what some refer to as a 1 percenter. Only 1% of the population has what it takes to live off the grid. To be able to survive on their own without relying on the government, technology or modern medicine. He avoids people because so few people are on his level, he is unable to connect intellectually. People look at him and think there is something wrong with him, when it's really all of us that are completely insane. There is a meaning to life, and he's closer to the answer than we are.
We have Hills not mountains
Thank you, we really don’t want anyone else to move here so you have done us a huge favor.
🤣 agree
Yes! Came here for this comment 💯
I was hoping that Michigan Left Turns would be on the list, they're a pain in the rear for a lot of Michiganders
But without the Michigan Left, pioneered in Michigan at M-102 (8 Mile) and Livernois, in 1962, the 8 Mile corridor would only be useful in the pre-dawn hours and Sunday mornings.
You should combine the "Reasons to move" and "Reasons not to move" to a certain state into one video. Would love to see this concept at work with potential remakes of your older videos.
More ad revenue splitting it into two.
Spot on brother! Excellent video
Glad you enjoyed it
As a nearly life-long Michigan resident, I would say that Michigan would probably not make you very happy unless you moved to a place like Holland, Grand Haven, or Traverse City. Outside of those three areas, you are going to find places with pretty grouchy people, in addition to all of the bad weather. Yeah downtown Detroit has gotten pretty cool these days...but it's probably not right for most people. I have traveled to all 50 states and I can tell you that only some parts of the Deep South, New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts seemed a little bit less happy than Michigan (with the exception of those three smaller cities I mentioned above, which are great places).
I moved to Ohio because of the always angry people......much better here...and less expensive, i.e.....car insurance $225.00 less...per month
I've been spending some time in Northern Michigan, and folks up there are very nice, they are genuine and down to earth. Although I feel like most of the bigger cities are a different story
Croswell is nice.
@@nothat0therguy992 I have spent lots of time in Manistee and while I would say that Northern Michigan is very pretty and laid back for the most part, the smaller towns are not very open to outsiders and tend to have a rather standoffish attitude, unless you are in one of the resort towns or Traverse. There's not much in the way of work up in this region except for some seasonal work in places like Mackinac. For the most part the people in the smaller areas do tend to be grouchy, although possibly less grouchy than the people in the south. Wisconsinites are much much more open to outsiders than Michiganders, in general. But you might meet a few who could break the ice. I was in Ludington in need of a tow last week and the wrecker driver was as chatty and friendly as could be. But my overall experience is that standoffishness tends to be the norm in the state, cliqueishness and churchiness in Grand Rapids.
@@billbirkett7166 Personally that hasn't been my experience in Grayling but I'm sure it does vary quite a bit from town to town. As far as work it's definitely not best opportunity up there, but if you can work online there's a lot of choices on where to live
West Michigan resident here, I agree with everything in this episode.
Not me. West Michigan is where the growth and innovation is
Me to Grand Rapids is a piece of trash worst city I've ever been to. I will say this Muskegon is very pretty with the lake it's a shame that the heights are so violent
Grand Rapids Charter township here
Kalamazoo here
Exactly, lived in Michigan my whole life
I don't believe the statement about bugs is accurate, and any searches I've done confirm that Michigan is not in the top 10 for states with the most bugs. We have nearly 6 months of almost no bugs or spiders. We may be swarmed with mosquitoes for the rainier times during warmer months, there are definitely more spiders (non-poisonous) near lakes, and a few days during the year when mayflies or fishflies swarm (they live less than 24 hours and all appear at once), but other than that, the most buggy places I've ever been to were outside of Michigan. There are also a lot of insects that simply can't survive or thrive here. From my online research, the same 10 states keep showing up as the buggiest:
1. Florida
2. Louisiana
3. Texas
4. California
5. Georgia
6. New York
7. Mississippi
8. Alabama
9. Missouri
10. South Carolina
Born and raised in Michigan, it takes a tough breed to stay. Beautiful state!! Affordable housing, but jobs, not so great. Summers are short and winters long and cold. Love our great lakes, salt free and shark free.
Lol I’m a Michigander too Great Lakes don’t got salt cuz it’s all over the road HAHA hate it here
i agree with both of you!
Summers are short? We basically get sunny and 75-85 from May to Mid October in Southern Lower Michigan. Best weather in the country! And, often times, we don't even get much snow until late December or January.
how can you have Affordable housing with very high property taxs
@@travissmith9488 Anyplace north of US10 isn't like that. shave 6 weeks off.
We bought our home in a small town 55 miles from Detroit in 1982 for $50,000.00. Our house is now worth $300,00.00. Our property taxes are fairly low and city services are great. We travel to the upper peninsula yearly to enjoy the lakes and woods. You talk about Detroit and I get it. I grew up there and it is a crime-ridden mess. The trick is to locate in one of the hip older suburbs or one of the beautiful small towns. There are many waterfront areas to buy a house, cottage, or wooded acreage. My wife's sister and her husband retired and moved here from the Boston area. They sold their house in the Boston suburbs and bought a bigger house in our town. They had money left over to buy a motor home and a nice Corvette.
As a Michiganader my home state(born and raised in Detroit then at 11 moved to Johannesburg until i was 21). love Michigan. But i moved the heck out because of the winters, no jobs and cost of living was beciming unbearably unaffordable Michigan has some beautiful scenery, plenty to do, affordable housing, wonderful summers, the rural areas are realtively low crime, and most places are 6 miles from a lake. If anything in my life changes and i can afford to have a summer home i would move back.
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UP awesome.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
You must have been gone a long time. MI has tons of jobs now
That is surpising Michgian is always ranked in the top 10 cheapest states to live in. Unless you are including the really nice areas in oakland county
@@chriskuhr9325 depends on where you live in Michigan. But rural Michigan is bit high. Gallon mil cost about $4.00-$5.00 gallon and that was last year. Pound of hamburger set you at about $4-$4.50 pound. Gas was about $2.20 and up last year. Utilities for Michigan is brutal.
The worst thing about Michigan is they forgot how to play football. You should do a video on the UP.
Tennessee fans know your pain Wolverines. Hopefully Milton III balls out for us. I'm sure Mich fans will have an eye on him as Vols fans comedically do w JG @ wazzu
@@BB-uu9oo I'm actually a Buckeye. It was great watching their pain for a few years, but it's just gotten pathetic.
@@bjs301 Michigan sort of remembered this year when we beat Ohio State but they will forget again.
We have one of the best small cities to live in Midland! Also we have a ton of pizza places here! We bust the average because there are less than 50k in pop.
Just visited MI & spent a day in Midland. A very nice small town.
And the best minor league baseball team name.
Midland Texas or Midland Michigan?
I’m in midland too!
Hey Briggs, another Michigander giving you their opinion! Been in this state for a tad over sixty yrs, and in general - your video is spot on! Keep up the good work son!
I was born in Michigan, I live in Michigan now (54 years and running), and I will most likely die in Michigan. Where I live, it's a 50 mile drive to get to a sizeable city, which is just fine with me. The terrain, woods and forests, the well defined seasons, and more lakes than you can shake a stick at, are a recipe for happiness. And most important, I love the old fashioned way of life. Being a neighbor is a responsibility, not just a geographic anomaly. If you are in trouble and need help, your neighbors will be there to help long before 911 responders. I love it here. But with that being said, I agree with every one of these issues that we have to deal with. The worst being the price of insurance, the roads, and the bugs. But it's not enough for me to turn tail and run. So just wanted to let you know that this video told it like it is, and is good info for anyone thinking of moving here. And if you decide to, be ready to; wave at people when they wave at you, respect yourself and everyone around you, put your electronic device down when with people, look the person in the eye when shaking their hand, and just be kind to everyone. Great video, Briggs. From your old buddy, Bender,.
Well said.. and, UP awesome.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
I agree completely, but I commented that Michigan actually does have some great pizza. I still keep in touch with the Michigan people I grew up with after nearly 65 years.
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia Can't argue with any of that. We used to have great roads, but now their fixes actually make them worse until they tear it up and start from scratch. I truly believe the government in Michigan is as crooked as they come and money is always diverted from infrastructure and schools and into the pockets of the people in charge. We have had some of the worst Governors in the U.S. for a long time. Seems that every one is a little worse than the last one. But I've never cared for politicians. But that aside, I've never thought about leaving, as I'm in my element here. Lived within a 15 mile radius my whole life. My family has lived in this area for almost 200 years. Couldn't imagine living anywhere else. The Red Wings and the Tigers have always been considered family to us. I would guess you have good and bad no matter what state you live in. We have a couple of sayings around here: 1. At least we're not Ohio, and 2. If you don't like the weather, go back to where you came from. Thanks for the chat. Be happy. Be kind. Be awesome.
You have bought into a false narrative regarding pizza availabilty. Michigan's pizza infrastructure is legendary the world over!
The rest of your list was on point.
B&C pizza in Baycity is the bomb!
Maybe you should come to Michigan and not rely on the internet and 2 military buddies to pass judgment on a state.
@@andrer1337 Totally agree. unfortunately many people think lower Michigan IS Detroit.
We have a number of great indy places in Traverse. Also, learn skillet/broiler and come up with your own! Don't be a wuss!
Love many places in Michigan! Beautiful areas! 🤩
Agree... UP especially awesome.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
Good man Briggs. Number 1 is by far the most important. 👍
Great video Mr.Briggs !
I can't believe you've been doing these type of lists for 4 years Briggs which is quite inspiring how much interest you have in U.S. States! 😇
As for Michigan, I couldn't agree more for each point so far and I'm only in #7 in the list you mentioned as I have a friend named Brandon whom lives in a puny town (Sturgis) that has not only awful housing prices as he has to pay $100K for a house before his mother died (may her rest in heaven after she passed away a couple weeks ago due to COVID) to terribly freezing weather!
When we used to talk on the phone, he would tell how brutally freezing it gets once it hits September as we're still in the 100°Fs in Arizona and him averaging around the mid-60°Fs give or take even though it can get quite hot & humid where he lives.
He works at a factory with decent pay bi-weekly and he would tell me there's lack of diversity since it's such a boring town there near the forest regions along the lack of transportation there as he would walk to work from time to time.
Arizona, huh? 100s, huh? No thanks!
I guess someone forced your friend to move to a city lacking in diversity. What a shame that he has no free will. Please remind your friend that he is welcome to move to Detroit or Flint where the "diversity" exists and he can report back to how much he loves all the available housing, friendly neighborhoods and the fact that the crime means it's never boring.
Lived in West Michigan my whole life. My list of why not to move here:
- cold and snow. Especially if you live in one of the lake effect snow belts.
- poor sports teams. Lions. Tigers. Pistons. Red Wings used to be good. Even college football teams have been underperforming.
- bad roads. You nailed it.
- dangerous swimming. Lake Michigan is an amazing lake with incredible beaches but people drown while swimming frequently, mostly people who are not used to swimming there.
Illinois boy here speaking...The Beaches of Western MI. are among the best in the World, along with their State Parks...Trumps every reason given here of whats wrong with Michigan...
@@MegaMantim incredible beaches, absolutely. No argument here.
Hey Briggs Great to see You
I was born and raised in Detroit Michigan. I have been personally effected by EVERYTHING on this list. I moved to Los Angeles California 6 months ago and left my heroin addiction back in Detroit. I have no interest in going back. I love the ocean and the sun. I never wanna see snow AGAIN
Best of luck to you, you can do it!
How dare you! Greetings from Michigan 🤠
Couldn’t be anymore wrong on the pizza. Michigan also has factories that make pizza cheese for all the major pizza companies. Domino’s, Jets, Hungry Howies, and Little Caesars has headquarters in Michigan.
Another great informative video 😊💕👍
Good job on this one as a resident u hit most of the hi points.. !!!!
As someone who lives in Michigan i think it’s pretty normal. Besides the bugs and cold snowy weather in the winter i think it’s a beautiful awesome state!🤍✨
The Cold weather in the winter is the best thing.
First of all, thank you for your service we appreciate that. But you got a few things wrong here. I live in michigan and I'm outside constantly in the summer and I've probably only gotten about eight or nine mosquito bites this year and we've had a lot of rain. So your friend must just be prone to insect bites. My brother lives down south and he said they're worse down there and he grew up in Michigan. Also, houses in the suburbs of Detroit are in a shortage and it is definitely a seller's market. The housing market here is strong. And there are tons of places for pizza. The area my family lives in has about nine or ten pizza places in about a twelve mile radius. You can't just be looking at statistics or ask two or three people you know because it doesn't seem like you're getting it right. What you did get right is the fact that can get cold here (we have not had a ton of snow the last few years) but we don't have the wildfires and the heat that they're having outwest, thankfully but unfortunately for them. I used to live out there so I understand. We also don't have tornadoes and hurricanes.
And yes, car insurance is ridiculously priced. I don't know why they don't just fix it. Although they did pass something last year that brought your car insurance down about 30 bucks a month or more depending on what you have.
Yes, many of the roads suck. But part of the problem is the trucks that are on the freeways, they don't have a weight limit and that can cause issues. Also, they need to use a different material because whatever they're using now doesn't seem to last longer than five to eight years.
And P.S. The opioid crisis is everywhere and part of the reason is because doctors over-prescribe it which is causing addiction in many people who wouldn't normally be addicted. And yes, human trafficking is absolutely horrific, an act performedby sick people. But, unfortunately, it happens everywhere. Everywhere. So to say don't move to Michigan because of it is not really fair.
And just so you know, there are many, many, many, many jobs here right now, employers are having a hard time getting enough people to apply. I've never seen so many job openings in the suburbs of Detroit and in Detroit. So I call BS on those unemployment statistics. Many employers right now need help and are short-staffed.
There are pros and cons of every state but Michigan is a wonderful State and offers numerous things for people to do and enjoy and there's lots of adventure all around in all four seasons.
Briggs, please do more videos about Why to Move someplace. Thanks, dude. Love the videos. :-)
Hi Briggs we are in Dallas area! My husband and I love your channel and food! When you are in town next month- we would love to buy you dinner !!
Hahaha. I am 13 miles from Monroe and houses start at 1/2 million. #1 reason not to move to California - it is burning down.
Your area nice like kalamazoo.. UP awesome too.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
I live in Saugatuck/Holland mi and I love it here. It’s huge for tourism and beautiful. The summers and fall are amazing but the winter does absolutely suck.
I think about moving somewhere warm all year around pretty often but I’d ideally love to spend my summers here.
Washington has great summers, it rarely rains. The winters are rainy, but the temperatures are suuper mild
Holland awesome... UP awesome too.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
the pacific coast… it’s just prohibitively expensive
The best would be Florida or Arizona from January to April and then Michigan the rest of the year!
Glad i found your channel!
I live on Lake Huron one hour north of Detroit. All good points. As for Pizza, I didn't notice a lack of pizza restaurants, man, they seem to be everywhere. Little Caesars, Domino's, and Jets are all based here. Plus you didn't bring up Detroit style pizza. The rectangle one. It's the best!
UP awesome.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix. ...
Buddy's Pizza is the best!
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia Yeah. No shortage of pizza in GR. Don't know where that came from.
I think he was referring to the lack of choices of pizza places. like not a lot of smaller pizza places but bunches of chains like the ones you named. Oh and best pizza ever belongs to Buddy's...the originators of the Detroit style pizza!
@@40bpaula but there are pizza places all over. They just don't have the name "pizzeria" in them. You can get pizza at just about any restaurant. When you go out to small towns, bars serve pizza. General stores in the country sell pizza. I grew up in a very small town with cornfields as far as the eye could see. The local general store sold pizza. You would call it in, they would tell you how long, you would pick it up, it would be in a pizza box. Great pizza. Tasted just like Pizza Hut. The difference between New York and Michigan is that New York city has a lot of small restaurants that only serve pizza. So they write pizza in the title. Here, you can get anything on the menu...including pizza.
I'm from Michigan, land is decently priced, housing is oddly expensive though
It’s not just Flint with bad water... my grandparents lived 45 min north of landing and they had the worst water. Turned the tub orange if the water softener wasn’t filled up. Grossest taste too.
I always find it sad that the State with the most fresh water has all those water problems.
Rusty pipes might turn water color to orange.
@@hydrolito iron ore rich area. The entire county is that way.
It amazes me that a state w such plentiful freshwater can't have good tap water.
@@BB-uu9oo It does. Just outside of the crap holes inside of I-69 and the the south east corner. Punch a well on the west side or north, and you will find some of the nations best water. Crap infrastructure and corrupt politicians are behind the bad water in and around the big city's. If you punched a shallow well and get lousy Iron water, you should have paid to go deeper and hired a fool for a well guy.
I lived in Farmington Hills, originally Farmington Township for a few years but this was back '69-71, moved to VA, then '72-74. My relatives live in Waterford, Dearborn, Taylor, etc so I still go back on regular visits- in the summertime😉
I really like it up there, except for the snow. The winter in 1973, we had snow drifts up to the second floor windows of our house! My husband loved it! He would clear a path from the back door to our garage and then dig out the driveway. He'd never owned a snowblower before and just absolutely adored that machine. On the other hand, we went to some of the best concerts! Aretha Franklin, The Temptations, Madonna, Bob Seger, Stevie Wonder, Al Green, Al Green, The Supremes, Smokey Robinson and the list goes on! This doesn't include the bands which came just for the outdoor concert venues! What was even more wonderful was you never paid more than $7.50 for a ticket. Although you're right, nowadays things have changed- instead of the Black Panthers here's the Opium epidemic. I could go on about this subject also but won't. There's still a lot to do all over the state, but the only times I go back in the winter is for weddings and funerals since it can snow as early as October 1st and as late as May 7th
I'm going to say first of all, great video. I really liked it.
Second, there are a lot of tourist towns and cities in Michigan. A good amount of the unemployment went along with how no one was going to those places, which thrive on people coming through. Hell, in September 2019 I could barely walk down the street in Ludington. But when I went back in August 2020, it felt like a ghost town. Closed shops, bars and restaurants. Some of them closed DOWN. Like, not coming back.
Just a little insight. Not trying to start a fight or anything.
I will confess that during the shutdown, it was nice to take the dog for a four or five mile walk without worrying about any traffic.
Not a rant, but I am from Denver Colorado where I am a realtor. There’s no way I am going to sugarcoat the winters or the traffic. I really want my transplant clients to know what they’re getting into.
He also said "not all realtors are going to mention the roads and snow..." not any of them will...
@@d43m0n412 your comment is exactly why I prefaced with “not a rant” 🙄 you don’t always need to say whatever you’re thinking on the Internet. It’s not criticism toward Briggs, it’s called FEEDBACK. So annoying
I think I know why a lot of viewers like your negative videos: If the videos are about places where they don't live, they'll make your viewers feel better about the city or state where they do live.
@joanne is right. I myself find it somewhat consoling finding out "it could be worse." I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Also there is a part of the human mind that feeds on negativity as well... drama, negative thoughts, negative actions, etc.
because who doesn’t like laughing at someone else being inferior
Thanks for you insight and content. I'm a 28 year Vet and thinking of moving to the UP to be away. I enjoy all of your content (although I think that you're a bit biased to Cali) much love and thanks again.
Excellent video. and you're right on the money with all the list. When I lived in Detroit, I hated that there weren't any good Mama and Papa pizza places. Now i'm in Lansing and there's a much better pizza selection here. It's gotta be because of the college kids...thank ya'll!
Okay, Michiganders and Lansingites in particular, what's your favorite pizza place? what's your favorite pizza?
I'm loving Jet's Pizza right now because they have my Keto Cauliflower crust pizza. i get sesame seeds added to the crust and then top with their Meat Lovers...light on the sauce. My favorite fancy pizza joint is Deluca's. Their sea food pizza is to die for. Now, if we can just work on the Delicatessens and the radio stations...not enough of the first and the second...well, they suck.
For me, it's the bar pies at Filling Station in T.C. I often make my own, and I use to buy their dough to start with. It's great, but for reasons of slimming, I want to make smaller home pies. Now I do my own small batch dough for a 6oz 8-inch pie. Sadly, fresh tomato season is over. (sound of uncontrollable crying begins)
Great timing. I've been traveling through MI for about a month now and fell in love with the UP and thought about buying some land there. Seney MI averages 144" of snow a year! Yeah, lots of shoveling. :-)
And yes the roads are horrible. Which I don't get, MN roads were great.
Good info. Thank you
Yeah, the winters are rough, especially on the western side of the Peninsula - certain areas get less snow than others but figure up here 200 inches annually - chances are though you can have a bargain
Looked up Seney, I forgot that part of the state even existed!
Don't forget you have to shovel your roof. Don't want the weight of the snow collapsing your roof!
UP awesome.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
The UP is beautiful..........no doubt
On the Brightside shoveling that much snow gets you in shape to move away from Michigan.
I went to school in Jackson, Michigan from 1957 until 1970 and walked to school everyday. Before "Busing" we all looked forward becoming a Safety to help younger students cross the street. So by the time I graduated, walking was no big deal
I live in Michigan and the big cities you mentioned are the worst cities in the state for crime and are not nice to live in. Now Traverse City, Alpena, Muskegon are nice. The only real cold months are Jan. Feb. & March. We do get a lot of snow.
Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo are also tops. Nice. UP awesome as well.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
We have had some bad Novembers and Decembers in the past. Winter has been somewhat later in recent times. Lake effect snow is still a painful aspect.
Villa Pizza suburb of GR (Wyoming) best pizza I’ve ever had in my 50 yrs. Located right next to the home of the wet burrito, beltline bar.
Villa mia?!? On 36th??
Beltline bar is very expensive but the food is good
I'm at Vitalie's Pizza, Comstock Park.
wow, my home town made it on one of your lists, not sure how to feel about that :) the housing situation in Bay City probably isn't going to improve anytime soon, there is some riverside condos being built, but a lot of the houses are in rough shape to begin with, jobs aren't great and the drug problem is slowly improving
But Bay City does have G's Pizzeria. Phenomenal!
@@danielaaron5217 the best pizza around is Cliffs in Sterling, I used to work at B&C before they changed the recipe and Cliffs beats them at their best
B&C was pretty good. Roma's was good
@@danielaaron5217 I grew up a block away from Romas, still good food
I can give credit where it's due, Bay City is definitely trying to improve itself but it has a ways to go. I think their biggest issues are the abysmal job market and the god awful roads. If they could fix these problems they could probably turn the corner. (Also I am big fan of Roma's too)
I live in Michigan City, Indiana, and I had to do a double- take at one point in this video because I’m almost certain that you used a snippet showing our city lmao. We’re just south of the Michigan border, though, so close enough 👍
Awesome website 👍😊👍👍
I've lived in Michigan my whole life, worst part is the damn potholes, winters, sooooo hard to find housing/apts
Hi I just moved to Detroit from the SF Bay Area(specifically Sonoma County) so this was interesting to watch. I like that you're educating people on things to consider when moving. Not that it matters, but when you were talking about .9 pizza places per 100k people in Detroit, is that the city or the whole metro because if it's the city, there are more than just 6? I think there's about 25(still not much I guess), and I live kind of near a suburb and there's 25 with 5 miles of me. Maybe I'm in the pizza part of Detroit though lol.
Detroit far better than San Francisco...UP awesome too.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
Family scattered throughout the UP. I would be there too but bugs too bad in summer and too much snow in winter. I will stay in the NC foothills of Blue Ridge Mtns. thank you.
Good to know. Would like to more on which states are better for car insurance and public transportation
real estate is for shelter not a financial investment
That real estate stat is quite false lol. Housing prices have gone way up this year. The bad part of the housing market is the lack of homes to buy. The builders can’t build a house fast enough to keep up. I live in south East Michigan.
He mentions Flint, Saginaw and Detroit. Noone from the outside the state is moving there.
My friend's 3 bedroom ranch was brought for 150K, and is now listed at 300K. (Oakland county).
There are bidding wars going on right now for single family homes by me.
Dead on except the pizza issue. Also, I'd like to add that southwest Michigan's winter is different from the rest of the state. If you drew a curved line from Whitehall to Lansing to New Buffalo you can expect some dreary weather. I read somewhere that it's the dreariest part of the country this side of Seattle. It's common to have 30 days or more. in the winter. when you don't see the sun. It sucks! HARD!
In 1962, my family moved from Grand Rapids to San Jose. I just could not believe that SJ had a full week of mild, dry sunny days! Then, a full month of great weather! Then, *four* months straight!
When I started High School, a new friend who'd been a wrestling enthusiast, told me I was too strong to beat! After thinking about it, I realized that shoveling snow for us and neighbors every day for weeks on end the previous winter had turned me into *The Hulk!*
I sure don't miss the crappy weather in winter *and* summer, nor the mosquitos, black flies & other bugs. Both states are beautiful, and the fall colors here in the Sierra Nevada (I moved) aren't nearly as pretty as in Michigan, but the three or four days of snow here is enough winter wonderland for me!
I'm one of those weirdos who actually likes Detroit - probably because I don't live there. It has a lot of unrealized potential. It also has the Pegasus Taverna (in Greektown), where I've enjoyed their Moussaka every time I've visited the city since 2004.
About the transit situation: Like most American cities, Detroit once boasted an extensive streetcar network that was paved over in the mad postwar rush to build suburban tract homes, cars, and highways.
Detroit's DPM (Downtown People Mover) was envisioned as part of a larger hub-and-spoke rail transit system in the 1980s. Those familiar with the local politics will not be surprised to learn that the proposed rail lines radiating out from downtown were killed but, somehow, the downtown circulator (the DPM) intended to connect them all and move commuters to and from their ultimate downtown destinations was built anyway. I'm not insinuating that pockets were lined and palms were greased, but I'm not NOT insinuating that pockets were lined and palms were greased.
The original 1980s rail plan has come back to life, at least in part. Detriot's Q-Line streetcar was built along Woodward Avenue (with transfer stops at the Amtrak station and the DPM) and was working well enough until the city caught a severe case of 'rona panic and shut it down for a year. It will supposedly reopen this year. There are proposals to extend it and build additional lines but, so far, nothing else has moved forward. I think they should build the next line along Michigan Avenue to Dearborn, but that might make too much sense.
Detroit thriving now. UP awesome.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia Don't forget the Coneys!
Detroit has changed for the better since the 1966(?) riots... it’s got its issues, but so do a lot of large cities. Love visiting!
I agree with this list, honestly living in michigan for 30 yrs I wanna move away but not sure where I'd go....preferably somewhere nicer. a lot of the people here in Michigan are rude as hell
So true! I also noticed Michiganders try to cover up their rudeness with they’re just straight shooters. What a lame excuse! I’m from west Michigan and When I go to another state people are like “ yea we heard about those people “ and not in good way! Even before the pandemic people here are rude and entitled. I hope you find a state you’ll be happy to call home. Most people I have ran across in other states are much friendlier and more open. Good luck to you!
I agree for the most part. I traveled extensively twice up and down the NE side of the state from Tawas to Rogers City looking to relocate in retirement, and a lot of the folks I encountered seemed gruff, unwelcoming and unfriendly despite cheerful sincere interactions. Also very surprised at how smothering religion felt during my travels and the 'weird vibe' I felt... Maybe it's just how it is, and a shame for me as it is absolutely stunning with regard to nature and I really loved it and wanted to move there.
@@sarahisner1777 my favorite I heard concerning Holland MI: "If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much".
I think the people saying “if you ain’t Dutch then you ain’t much “ need to take a good hard look at themselves!!! People like that make me proud to not be Dutch!!!
Hey briggs, here from England, I had a request, can you do for each sate 10 more reasons to move and/10 reasons not to move to each state, which are updated and have different facts from the ones from few years ago. Maybe that's a big request. But also I was curious about life in Atlanta, jobs, weather in detail, facts which are different from the usual of lots of traffic etc. Lovely videos
Most roads in the lower part of the state definitely suck. I was amazed at how smooth the roads are in the UP. I think I encountered maybe 5 total potholes driving across the UP. You can draw a line up north from Manistee to Tawas City where the roads instantly get better haha.
Spent a couple of days in Ann Arbor this past summer and thought it was beautiful. I live in WV and if you think Michigan’s roads are bad, you should check out WV roads.
I wonder how much of the paving decline came about under Snyder. I noticed in biking around Old Mission Peninsula that during his tenure, the roads seemed to turn to absolute shit. Not much fun if you're riding on light weight wheel and high pressure sew-ups.
I moved back to Michigan 3 years ago from Arizona after 50 years! I grew up here. I'm retired so job was a non issue. Housing is inexpensive in mid Michigan compared to Az. Property taxes and car insurance are reasonable. So all in all not bad for retirement. But, what I do miss is good Mexican Food, and shopping. I live in a small town now and only a Walmart and couple of grocery stores. People are generally nice but this is their world and their view. My neice visited from California and it was like she was an alien! Not a welcoming vibe. Not fond of Cali here for sure! Different realities if that makes sense.
Most of us in Michigan have rarely been anywhere else, other than to visit for a short time. Maybe we're different and alien-like to those outside of Michigan and maybe outsiders are just as alien to us. Every place and every person is going to be different in their ways and views.
@@godswordevangelism I have an ope bumper sticker and people make fun of my husband and i for having it haha. If you know you know :)
You are right! Also UP awesome.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
@@godswordevangelismPerhaps that's true. I've always treated so called "outsiders" with very special respect and kindness so that when they went home they would tell everyone what a wonderful time they had and that the people were soooo nice! I went out of my way to make sure their visit was great, so I was surprised by the look on "friends" faces when I said my neice was from Cali. After we all talked for awhile they warmed up a bit and one even said "wow the news does lie about people from Cali!" Another said "you don't act like your better than everyone else!" Literally, they said that! We were both a lil speechless. Sort of a compliment I guess. 😳
I'm from SW Michigan and this list is completely on point. I don't look at the weather as a down side, since winter is my favorite season. Housing values are killer though, I would love to move but we don't have enough equity since our property values have dropped twice.
No our winters are decent.UP awesome.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
You must live in Benton Harbor...
Although maybe you’re from Cheshire township: that’s a place with some interesting real estate.
Nice footage over Clinch Marina at the start. Michigan is not all like Traverse City, and even that place is changing way too quickly.
Good, as a lifelong Michigander I don't want people here who don't appreciate our strengths.
I agree gtfo
I agree 100%
What strengths? Just saying
@@sarahisner1777 southeast Michigan has more engineers per capita than any other state, and we also almost have the most in absolute terms. The 30 to 40 miles or suburbs of all sorts surrounding Detroit have every lifestyle available, and you can always get around to see more. I can be in thriving Downtown environment like Royal Oak, or drive 20 minutes and see a place with a more small town vibe like Northville. The independent art scene is great, and in that Detroit, the city, really stands out. Our theaters in Downtown Detroit are as beautiful and historic as those you will find anywhere!! The DIA and Henry Ford Museum are truly world class. I hear it most from Europeans!!! What are you looking for? It's here in Michigan. I laugh when people say, but you can't excercise in the winter, but I can attend a concerts by a world class orchestra, lol. I'm a city boy though. What's so great about where you're from? Let me guess, you guys are national leaders in internet trolling!! 😂
Thinking of moving to Grand Haven
Beautiful town that’s awesome after the dang Illinois people leave when summer is done!
I lived in Grand Rapids for 11 years(now back in San Diego) and you hit everything right on, but missed the fact that being between two Great Lakes the basements of ALL homes are swamps, and there are very many swamps there also. There are many bussineses that exist to "waterproof" your basements. And don't forget tornadoes!
My dad was stationed on the USCG Mackinaw ice beaker based out of Chedoyagon after living in Seattle. Seattle was kind of depressing because weather being overcast so much, there was stuff to do though, aside from hunting, ice fishing and snowmobiling (which I love) there was not really a lot to do and people seemed kind of klannish.
I left Michigan 25 years ago. I now live out west and I haven't looked back!
Yes drugs do that to u
The pizza issue is surprising since there's this pizza chain in my region of Northeast Ohio called Jet's, and they keep promoting this "Detroit Style Deep Dish". I keep thinking if Detroit is known for a certain crust style, that city must be big on pizza.
But... UP awesome.. The state of Michigan has a great housing market with exception of the east side of the state. West side high demand and upper Michigan. Not terribly cold except in north Michigan in mountain area, which was not mentioned. Chicago is far colder than most southern Michigan parts. Wisconsin and Minnesota are colder too. Currently Michigan's unemployment is lower than national average. True about mosquitoes and transportation though big changes have been made in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor city. More are needed..Pizza delivery was invented in Detroit and Little Caesars and Diamono Pizza is from Michigan and headquartered here. Anyhow Detroit Deep Dish pizza tastes great and many non pizza joints sell it in Detroit which also not highlighted. It true about Michigan roads but was not always like that. Michigan once had the best. Anyhow it has nothing to do about the seasonal weather. Basically the state kept under finding the state for road repair and even worse, hired cheap quality pavement to semi fix the roads when election time comes around to make everyone think they are finally being replaced... The current governor says she will fix the roads with top quality asphalt but we do not trust her. Same old story in Michigan... governors keep passing the issue to the next to fix.
It is a thing. The deep dish pizzas came to Detroit circa 1950. Two pizza restaurants a few blocks apart.
Jet's assimilated the recipe of those restaurants, and ran the football, making deep-dish and launching TV adverts.
Detroit Deep Dish is more fattening than most other pizzas, because of its high cheese content.
Get jets in from Michigan I love the deep dish
John.......you're actually right and Briggs is wrong on this one. Michigan has great pizza...especially the metro-Detroit area. The deep-dish pizza with crispy crust is incredible.
plus little caesars and dominos are from detroit… yeah i wouldn’t have expected pizza to be on the top 10
I once went to tahquamenon falls and I got probably 500 mosquito bites and I do not recommend moving here if you do not like them. I will also say winters are pretty nice here but they get cold. Like really cold. Now I am used to it but when moving from the south you might not like it. Summers are hot in Michigan. Some days get to 100°. The Great Lakes are amazing and the Up is so beautiful. I love Michigan and I will most likely never leave.
I've spent considerable time in MI, Upper and Lower, and the Bugs thing is right on the dot... last time I was in St. Ignace, not at all an exaggeration, the entire town was webbed over with quarter+ (as in coin) sized spiders... Honkers dangling down from trees en masse, EVERY TREE, all over the walls, just absolutely everywhere... Sept/Oct- it's truly like that all over MI, even Upper... And yes, all the other bugs... Beautiful State from inside a fully sealed vehicle... lol