Without a voluntary euthanasia law, lots of cancer patients and people with ALS would have joined Al Qaeda. One of my cousins joined Al Qaeda. I tried to talk her out of it, but she wouldn't listen. By the time the police arrested her, she had given 50 million dollars to Al Qaeda.
Without being disrespectful to those interviewed, you could tell from the responses that a number of the interviewees were not educated on the topic being presented and therefore their arguments against (the majority of those in the first 4 min) were almost void. However, hats off to the man interviewed at 5min as he was well educated, fully understood the topic and therefore gave an indepth opinion as to why euthanaisa should be legal, with examples of safeguarding. Thank you for uploading this video, very interesting.
Actually the man implies that PAS is for people who feel like they are a burden to their families. That is not what PAS is for. He also says that PAS is "not just for people who are depressive and want to kill themselves" Key word is 'just'. It's also not meant for depressive people.
Australia was the first country to legalise physician assisted dying (PAD) many years ago in the Northern Territory under the ROTI Act (Rights Of The Terminally Ill). The Federal Parliament overturned it and since then whilst other countries such as the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, and some states in the US and, recently, Columbia, have all legalised voluntary euthanasia (VE) or PAD whilst Australia has gone downhill in their medical profession's violent opposition to legalising this for either those suffering with a terminal illness or from a chronically disabling (and often painful) *incurable* illness. Recently Dr. Philip Nitschke was, once again, dragged through the law courts in Australia where the medical tribunal again attempted to have him de-registered as a physician. He was the only doctor who helped those under the ROTI Act and has continued to be an advocate for the right to die with dignity particularly through Exit International via both public seminars, private workshops and clinic visits (to the homes of those too ill to travel to him). Now he's been told he can only be a medical practitioner in Australia if he practices only in the Northern Territory and doesn't prescribe any medication for people in pain, and has no real role in Exit. It's absolutely pathetic the way Australia has gone and the fact that people who need to have end of life options now cannot receive advice from Dr. Nitschke via workshops or home visits, and the only option is for those with enough money to jump through bureaucratic 'hoops' to travel to Dignitas in Switzerland (which requires a lot of money most don't have) to die far away from their loved ones in a setting far from home. Or they have to try to get the drugs to commit suicide and die without being around their loved ones or leave those persons at risk of being legally prosecuted if not actually jailed for 'aiding and abetting a suicide' or for 'manslaughter' if the loved ones are believed to have helped them to die. Australia is not the country anyone with a terminal or a chronic incurable condition causing pain and other problems (including the side-effects of pain medications themselves) wishes to be in as a result of the Australian medical profession's violent opposition to assisted suicide, along with that from certain minority (but vocal) powerful religious groups and media figures who have much influence upon the politicians in Australia.
How can they seriously argue that assisted dying is "giving up on life" yet support the withholding of treatment because that somehow isn't "giving up on life"?
tomandfred I do not encourage suicide. Stating human rights clearly enough to ensure that people understand they exist is not a recommendation. It doesn't show my opinion at all on whether or not this would be a wise decision.
I am doing a debate on this as well and this video has given me a lot of new ideas and places to look into for my side of the story,I think we need to have more open debates and discussions about topics like this, that we dont necessarily want to make a decision on
First of I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but if I was in an accident and paralysed from the neck down, or had to be fed through a tube because I can’t move anything even my lips. I wouldn’t want to carry on. I believe assisted suicide should be made legal, yes there should definitely be rules and regulations on it but it should be allowed. For some people who have a terminal illness or disability death can be the only path to take to escape pain or lack of enjoyment in life. The only way to end their suffering, and no one should be allowed to suffer in pain and possibly die in a undignified way. Plus I know people view Human life and animal life different but if we were to take a dog or a cat to the vets and it was in pain, suffering and life was not good for it. We would be told to put it down, and that keeping it alive and letting it suffer is cruel and inhumane.
It is not my responsibility to live for someone else or for 'society'. If I have a terminal condition ( less than 6 months) and have repeatedly asked to have the wherewithal to end my suffering ,and a physician chooses to provide the prescription, stand out of the way, and let me choose when and where and in who's company I leave this earth. Its not about what others perceive as pain or suffering. Its my definition that matters.
Dont believe “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
i am suffering and my quality of life is zilch and do not want to carry on its unfair i cant choose to end my life .if i were a dog id be put down ages ago
The guy was depressed for 43 years and the doctor refused to give him a psych consult? Well if someone has been depressed for 43 years then there obviously wasn't much the psychiatry could do about it since they had already failed for 43 bloody years. Now the guy is terminal AND depressed and they want to say he should just hang on a little longer and die naturally suffering from his physical and mental pain? What a bad example.
yeah respect peoples free will,you dont do it the right way then they may try doing it the wrong one like botched suicides,do it the right way and the family can say goodbye in a nice way,everyone wants their families to remember them how they were (not in horrible on going pain)its everyones choice and if in pain or not having any life,i say to that leanne creasy have you ever watched someone die,have you ever had them say to you i just want to die,my mother said that to me and i understood her
Meanwhile there were 5,608 suicides for people over the age of 15 in 2010 with the numbers on the rise since the economic downturn. So much for people not believing they're a burden.
Without a voluntary euthanasia law, lots of cancer patients and people with ALS would have joined Al Qaeda.
One of my cousins joined Al Qaeda. I tried to talk her out of it, but she wouldn't listen.
By the time the police arrested her, she had given 50 million dollars to Al Qaeda.
It actually scares me that I could be in locked-in syndrome one day and the doctors would keep me alive. What the hell is wrong with the government?
Without being disrespectful to those interviewed, you could tell from the responses that a number of the interviewees were not educated on the topic being presented and therefore their arguments against (the majority of those in the first 4 min) were almost void. However, hats off to the man interviewed at 5min as he was well educated, fully understood the topic and therefore gave an indepth opinion as to why euthanaisa should be legal, with examples of safeguarding.
Thank you for uploading this video, very interesting.
Actually the man implies that PAS is for people who feel like they are a burden to their families. That is not what PAS is for. He also says that PAS is "not just for people who are depressive and want to kill themselves" Key word is 'just'. It's also not meant for depressive people.
It is the absolute right of anyone with a terminal illness to CHOOSE whether or not to be helped to die. I am in favour of the assisted dying bill.
Australia was the first country to legalise physician assisted dying (PAD) many years ago in the Northern Territory under the ROTI Act (Rights Of The Terminally Ill). The Federal Parliament overturned it and since then whilst other countries such as the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, and some states in the US and, recently, Columbia, have all legalised voluntary euthanasia (VE) or PAD whilst Australia has gone downhill in their medical profession's violent opposition to legalising this for either those suffering with a terminal illness or from a chronically disabling (and often painful) *incurable* illness. Recently Dr. Philip Nitschke was, once again, dragged through the law courts in Australia where the medical tribunal again attempted to have him de-registered as a physician. He was the only doctor who helped those under the ROTI Act and has continued to be an advocate for the right to die with dignity particularly through Exit International via both public seminars, private workshops and clinic visits (to the homes of those too ill to travel to him). Now he's been told he can only be a medical practitioner in Australia if he practices only in the Northern Territory and doesn't prescribe any medication for people in pain, and has no real role in Exit. It's absolutely pathetic the way Australia has gone and the fact that people who need to have end of life options now cannot receive advice from Dr. Nitschke via workshops or home visits, and the only option is for those with enough money to jump through bureaucratic 'hoops' to travel to Dignitas in Switzerland (which requires a lot of money most don't have) to die far away from their loved ones in a setting far from home. Or they have to try to get the drugs to commit suicide and die without being around their loved ones or leave those persons at risk of being legally prosecuted if not actually jailed for 'aiding and abetting a suicide' or for 'manslaughter' if the loved ones are believed to have helped them to die. Australia is not the country anyone with a terminal or a chronic incurable condition causing pain and other problems (including the side-effects of pain medications themselves) wishes to be in as a result of the Australian medical profession's violent opposition to assisted suicide, along with that from certain minority (but vocal) powerful religious groups and media figures who have much influence upon the politicians in Australia.
How can they seriously argue that assisted dying is "giving up on life" yet support the withholding of treatment because that somehow isn't "giving up on life"?
Rights are not obligations. You have the right to live, but you don't have to if you don't want to.
tomandfred I do not encourage suicide. Stating human rights clearly enough to ensure that people understand they exist is not a recommendation. It doesn't show my opinion at all on whether or not this would be a wise decision.
I am doing a debate on this as well and this video has given me a lot of new ideas and places to look into for my side of the story,I think we need to have more open debates and discussions about topics like this, that we dont necessarily want to make a decision on
*When the teacher asks a complex question*
Me at 25:05 being the only one who knows the answer.
First of I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but if I was in an accident and paralysed from the neck down, or had to be fed through a tube because I can’t move anything even my lips. I wouldn’t want to carry on.
I believe assisted suicide should be made legal, yes there should definitely be rules and regulations on it but it should be allowed. For some people who have a terminal illness or disability death can be the only path to take to escape pain or lack of enjoyment in life. The only way to end their suffering, and no one should be allowed to suffer in pain and possibly die in a undignified way. Plus I know people view Human life and animal life different but if we were to take a dog or a cat to the vets and it was in pain, suffering and life was not good for it. We would be told to put it down, and that keeping it alive and letting it suffer is cruel and inhumane.
Such a great debate, Robert Griffin and Leanne Creasey did exceptionally.
It is not my responsibility to live for someone else or for 'society'. If I have a terminal condition ( less than 6 months) and have repeatedly asked to have the wherewithal to end my suffering ,and a physician chooses to provide the prescription, stand out of the way, and let me choose when and where and in who's company I leave this earth. Its not about what others perceive as pain or suffering. Its my definition that matters.
Really good debate for sharing with 6th form pupils doing general studies. Thanks!
We should turn this into a meme.
Q: Why are gulags better than hospices?
A: You don't have to die naturally in gulags.
Theres no way your taking my right to die away from me. End of story
Whites' Yes
Everyone else no.
JANUARY 2021 I DO NOT CONCENT TO DIE YET....
Dont believe
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
i am suffering and my quality of life is zilch and do not want to carry on its unfair i cant choose to end my life .if i were a dog id be put down ages ago
Society , you won't let me live in peace , die in peace , hope your not lonely without meeeeee 👀
The guy was depressed for 43 years and the doctor refused to give him a psych consult? Well if someone has been depressed for 43 years then there obviously wasn't much the psychiatry could do about it since they had already failed for 43 bloody years. Now the guy is terminal AND depressed and they want to say he should just hang on a little longer and die naturally suffering from his physical and mental pain? What a bad example.
yeah respect peoples free will,you dont do it the right way then they may try doing it the wrong one like botched suicides,do it the right way and the family can say goodbye in a nice way,everyone wants their families to remember them how they were (not in horrible on going pain)its everyones choice and if in pain or not having any life,i say to that leanne creasy have you ever watched someone die,have you ever had them say to you i just want to die,my mother said that to me and i understood her
God the phat birds annoying!
Queens' :') My old school!
Meanwhile there were 5,608 suicides for people over the age of 15 in 2010 with the numbers on the rise since the economic downturn. So much for people not believing they're a burden.
People commit suicide for many different reasons, you can't know it for them thinking they're a burden.